What would Fallout New Vegas be like if Todd Howard directed it?
Better than the unfinished piece of shit we got
HATE BULL
>>344191237
Yeah it would've been as bug free as Fallout 3.
>>344191068
The legion would instantly be demonized without any chance to join them because "they da bad guize"
[Intelligence] Courier: You're an abortion of humanity, you need to die
Lanius: Very well courier, the dam is yours
>Yes
>Yes?
>Yes!
>Haha you're stupid...but to answer your question, yes.
Everything would be level scaled, it would reuse content without explaining why it's there and would largely have nothing to do with the rest universe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8akM5pAlNg
>>344191237
Agreed, my fellow gamer. Bethesda Game Studios develops products in a league entirely of ou- er, THEIR own.
>>344191068
wouldn't rape the lore as hard
>thread already being flooded with meme replies regurgitating things they heard on /v/
>>344191068
it would've been fallout 4 but with fallout 3's mechanics
>>344191068
Lanius?
Hate Lanius
Sarcasm
Bye
Literally better in every way
>>344191068
[X] HATE ROME
>Where's the chip?
>WHERE THE FUCK IS MY CHIP?
>(Sarcastically) Where's the chip?
>What is the chip?
>>344192219
>anything that disagrees with what I've been told to think is evil so I must scream my epic memes at them!
Not him, but you're a complete fucking faggot
NV was an unfinished piece of shit that took HEAVY influence from Fallout 3 because Obsidian did barely any research on fallout lore, Fallout 3 was a finished piece of shit, Fallout 4 was worse them both of them combined.
If Bethesda made New Vegas it would have been better, but only because it would care a little bit more about established lore, it would still be bad.
>>344191565
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>>344191978
>>344192056
>>344192378
>>344192416
>>344192546
>>344192621
>>344192663
You have no opinion of your own, you're mindlessly droning over what /v/ has told you, most if not all of you probably still think "Kill your son or nuke the commonwealth" is an actual thing
Your meme posts are invalid because of how extremely uninformed they are, fucking kill yourselves
>>344192284
>Fallout new vegas raped the lore
Got some evidence to back that up friendo :^)
>>344193285
>fire ants in the mojave
>>344193163
Kill your son or nuke the commonwealth would have actually been better than what we got.
>>344193163
Finally, an actual anon with taste. You tell this fuckos what's what. Hopefully they'll learn from their mistakes and buy Fallout 4 today!
>>344193163
This is bait right? No one could possibly think this.
>>344193347
And that's a problem because?
>>344192056
new vegas is already level scaled you shit
>>344193347
>Aliens in D.C.
>>344191068
NCR is the humanitarian faction, House is retarded kinda fucked up (i.e. Institute), BoS is important because why the fuck not and Legion is just an unjoinable raider faction instead of dumbass tribals led by a smart man.
>>344191068
>You shouldn't rule the Mojave
>Who will bring peace if the Legion's place
>I dunno
>Ok. I will kill myself now.
>>344193531
Is /v/ really incapable of realizing that all Toddposter is just shitposting?
All opinions stated are invalid, due to clear farce.
>>344193693
Because they were created by dr. lesko in Fallout 3 and promtly contained by him and TLW, all the way across the continent
They have beyond zero reason to be in the Mojave
>>344193714
New Vegas is on trial here, not Fo3
>>344191068
The real question is what would NV be like if it was made by Blizzard?
>Lanius: Glad you could make it, Courier.
>Courier: Watch your tone with me boy, you may be the Legate, but I'm still your superior as a Player Character.
>Lanius: As if I could forget. Listen, Courier, there's something you need to know about the dam.
>Lanius: Oh no, we're too late, the NCR have already spread democracy to the Mojave. They may seem fine now, but it's only a matter of time until the government is accepting bribes from Brahmin barons and landowners, to the detriment of its citizens.
>Lanius: This entire civilization must be purged.
Courier: FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IN THE EXPANSION, COMING IN 2018 FOR ONLY 60$ USD.
Every thread, why are NV fans so easy to bait?
Just one obvious baitpost and the replies start rolling in and the entire thread gets derailed. This is internet etiquette 101 you dense dick welts.
>>344191068
HEEEEY DUDE! MY NAME IS MR. FANTASTIC!
Yeah that's right! Remember that because I won't repeat myself again! Sooo it turns out this fucking pieace of shit Helios whatever it even is... it's not working. And that sucks. So I am gonna ask you if you can fix this shit, because I can't... aaaaand that would be really bad if those guys from NCR found out.
[SPEECH 52%] You look competent enough? Why don't you do it yourself? Unless you will give me some reward...
[SCIENCE 100%] What a retard, you are running this place? You are dangerous for everyone who is living in this complex!
Okay I will fix it!
I should go
>>344193347
But there are fire ants in the real life present day Nevada
>>344193527
>>344193531
>>344193808
Keep up the tears, obsidrones
We are NEVER going to get a good 3D fallout
>>344193808
With threads like this and toodposting being a thing, it goes to show how shit this board has become
>>344193982
Yeah but they don't actually spit fire, that's entirely something engineered by Dr. lesko
see >>344193934
>>344193934
First off if you comparing how Bethesda has done fallout to obsidian then of course I'm allowed to bring up 3. Second you do realize that new vegas takes place in the game original lore i.e. the one that was establish in fallout 1 and 2 when OBSIDIAN still owned fallout right?
>>344193163
>NV was an unfinished piece of shit that took HEAVY influence from Fallout 3 because Obsidian did barely any research on fallout lore
>because Obsidian did barely any research on fallout lore
My fucking sides, they are goneg8 b8 m8
>>344194253
obsidian never owned fallout, it was created by a company called interplay who went bankrupt which is why the rights to fallout were sold.
>>344193934
>broke the lore of a lore breaking game
oh.
>>344194253
>the one that was establish in fallout 1 and 2 when OBSIDIAN still owned fallout right?
Obsidian NEVER owned Fallout, Obsidian had ONE person from BlackIsles/Interplay working for them during the development of NV and that person doesn't even work there anymore
>>344194079
Excuse me sir, but you're in violation of several slandering laws. We already have two great Fallout games, 3 and 4! You have until the end of the month to purchase both, or it's the big house for you.
>>344194202
>>344194202
I just assume they came across that ability however Fire Geckos managed to come across there's in the same fashion.
>>344194574
What? Obsidian had a ton of old staff from interplay/black isle when they made New Vegas
>It was founded in 2003 by ex-Black Isle employees Feargus Urquhart, Chris Avellone, Chris Parker, Darren Monahan, and Chris Jones after the closure of Black Isle Studios.
you're a fucking retard
>>344194202
That's a great observation I never questioned that
The wiki seems to try to lampshade this by claiming that maybe the giant ants gained the fire breath from the same way that the Geckos did (which is unexplained anyway)
>>344193934
>New Vegas is on trial here, not Fo3
FO3 is never not on trial on /v/
>>344194574
There's more besides Chris
Joshua Sawyer was the lead designer of Van Buren during its development.
And considering Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky are now both working for Obsidian I assume they must have liked what he did with New Vegas ergo he's got a good head on his shoulders as far as the lore goes.
>>344193163
>NV was an unfinished piece of shit that took HEAVY influence from Fallout 3 because Obsidian did barely any research on fallout lore
>literally has original fallout devs on the team
your full of shit
>>344194383
Screaming "bait" at me doesn't make it any less true
>inb4 you too think Obsidian created Fallout
>>344194481
Bethesda owns the series, they declared Fallout 3 as canon, Fallout NV also declartes 3 as canon.
Lesko's fire ants have no reason to be anywhere near the Mojave
>>344194758
>>344194851
That's a good thought, but still though they seem less like they gained that ability on their own, and more like Obsidian just put them in because they saw Fallout 3 had them.
But I guess that's just me
>>344194679
Fuck off retard
Bethesda are piss poor writers. Not that Obsidian are particularly good, but they're not the level of ripe dogshit Bethesda hasn't budged from since FO3.
>>344194452
When interplay went bankrupt some of its members founded obsidian and these games follow their own lore. While Bethesda's fallout takes place on the east coast and has no continuity between fallout 1, 2, or New Vegas. Therefore 3 and 4's lore is separate from the other games entirely.
>>344194914
>FO3 is never not on trial on /v/
that wrong, fo3 is not on trial but already convicted of being a game with a shit story
>>344195038
Not to mention before they started working on NV they took on fucking 18 more ex-black isle employees
>>344195262
>seperate entirely
No its not
>>344195262
>3 and 4's lore is separate from the other games entirely.
Not entirely, remember they had to yank shit from the West Coast like Super Mutants and the Enclave because they're creatively bankrupt and had no idea how to create a spinoff game without just taking the basic premise of the first game and copy pasting it in DC.
>>344194826
And how many of those people still work there let alone worked there during NV?
If so much of the old staff really worked on NV then how come it's the way it is? How come NV feels like Bethesda made most of it?
>>344195038
>And considering two retards are now working for Obsidian-
Piss off
>>344195137
Hmm, so one example of a lore break means you can excuse all the lore breaks in 3 and 4.
That's amazing logical leaping. Keep going. I like where this is headed.
>>344193163
>Obsidian did barely any research on fallout lore
You mean the guys that made the first two games?
Anyway, webm related
>>344193714
My sides
>>344192149
god I fucking hate Bethesda
>>344195485
see >>344194452 and >>344194574
Obsidian did not create Fallout
>>344195437
I'm still mad they made the real brotherhood group, the ones that actually followed what the brotherhood stood for, into the "outcasts." Like what the fuck. Would have been an easy fix, too, just by switching the happy-go-lucky hero brotherhood to the outcasts.
>>344195262
>>344195437
>this delusion
3 and 4 are canon and no amount of delusional crybaby tears is going to change that.
>>344191068
I rather not think about that
>>344195452
>How come NV feels like Bethesda made most of it?
Because they had to use Beth's engine in a small timeframe? Why are you asking questions you already know the answer to
>>344195614
>happy-go-lucky hero brotherhood
They only became heroes after you got there, before that they were basically ignoring everyone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvwlt4FqmS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvwlt4FqmS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvwlt4FqmS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvwlt4FqmS0
>>344195597
Obsidian technically didn't create Fallout but the project leads had experience with the franchise prior to FO3's development and clearly had more consideration for the established lore from the isometric days which is evident to anyone who bothered playing 1 and 2.
>>344195437
Yes but they give their own reason for the super mutants existing on the east coast. As for the enclave they never really state any of the events that happened in fallout 2 so there is no sign if this is the same enclave from those games
>>344195745
>Using Bethesda's engine means Obsidian had to write like Bethesda and design the world like Bethesda would
No
>>344195437
>Synths
Man are you dumb
>>344195636
Oh, of course they're canon. That doesn't mean they're not shit, though.
>>344191068
FUCK THOSE FAGGOTS
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK THEMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMFFUCKCJVDKJKCKCCKJKC
YOU EITHER NUKE THEM OR YOU'RE NOT OUR FRIEND ANYMORE
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKTHEMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>344195636
Maybe to (you) but others will still follow the original games
>>344191068
They would remove all ammo crafting, unique weapons and lock the lever rifle behind a dlc paywall again.
>>344195940
But bethesda actually does decent world design unlike obsidian
>obsidiancucks will try and refute this
>>344195137
>That's a good thought, but still though they seem less like they gained that ability on their own, and more like Obsidian just put them in because they saw Fallout 3 had them.
>But I guess that's just me
It's more likely than you may think. Lesko's was just a random mutation created totally unintentionally, point in being that the fire ants' natural venoms became flammable. It's plausible the same happened here.
Even if it is merely Obsidian taking them directly from Fallout 3 as a reference, that doesn't seem to support the 'they borrowed so much from Fallout 3' claim (don't know if that was you or another anon) since they're so irrelevant to the game. They're in only like two locations, just west of Nipton or north of Novac.
>>344191068
No invisible walls in the middle of the map.
They wouldn't make the narrative the driving force.
It wouldn't be so empty.
You would have had more freedom to explore.Did any one else head south and make the J turn to Vegas.
To be fair Obsidian did make one of the best armors around.Sadly,In true Obsidian fashion,you couldn't actually get it until the last DLC.
>>344193974
This! Every New Vegas thread starts off nicely, until some anon decides to lay down some bantz until the thread fills with butthurt fans, each shouting at the brick wall. Then the shitposters keep throwing Nuka Cola at Festus, until the thread has 200 posts, each one covered with more tears than the last one.
When will you guys learn?
>>344195874
This holds no ground as of Fallout 4
gamebryo shit for casuals who can't handle a real rpg.
just like it is now.
>>344196440
>They wouldn't make the narrative the driving force.
Is... this a 'bad' thing in an RPG?
>>344196440
If you are talking about the elite riot armor, you can just walk into the divide and take it, and go back out at level 1.
>>344194383
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>>344196440
Was it really so empty though
The wiki seems to imply that New Vegas + mods had more location content than Fallout 3 + mods
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_locations
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_locations
>>344196776
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/46870/?
>>344196686
In an open world game when the narrative drives your path yes.
If you want narrative to trump all go with un locking areas to progress the story.
It may just be a matter of taste but I don't like the story railroading me to where the devs want in an open world game.
>>344191068
>"why are you here?"
>"oh you know, i just am"
>"no really, why are you here?
>"i don't really feel like i need to tell you"
>DON'T LIE TO ME BLUE, TELL ME WHY YOUR HERE BLUE"
>"MY BABY BOY SHAUN WAS BARELY A YEAR OLD"
>"I BET THE INSTITUTE DID IT BLUE"
This is an actually thing that happens in fallout 4
So, it would have more of this yeah
>>344191237
Good one fella
Is 12.7mm the best SMG?
>>344197063
Why would anyone care what locations mods add to a game?
It only matters what the devs ship.
>Mr.house is in a robot that you shoot instead of a life-preservation chamber
>there's a nuke in the hoover dam and that's why everyone wants it
>cars everywhere that haven't exploded yet despite exploding when grazed by a single bullet
>the giant statue at the mojave outpost is actually a robot built by the NCR
>there are no living trees or plants anywhere because a nuke went off 200 years ago
>the "lady in the water" is actually a nuke that the boomers want
>there's a settlement at the devil's throat because wouldn't it be cool if there was a town in a giant pool of radiation?
>the rockets that jason bright and his ghouls want to launch are actually nukes that they launch at novac, if you kill them for it you lose karma
>you can't join caesar's legion and the women in it are treated just as highly as the men
>>344196732
That is only possible if you have the last DLC.
>>344196732
>level 1
>you must fight deathclaws, tunnelers, marked men with AMRs to get the elite armor
>in the middle of the map
???
>>344196536
It's legendarily easy to piss of NV fans. There was a time when the only Fallout discussion on this board was daily FO3 vs NV threads. They just can't resist telling people why their game is better than someone else's.
>>344193163
>because Obsidian did barely any research on fallout lore
the team that wrote the fallout bible and fallout 1 and 2?
>>344197856
FNV threads always derail in Obsidrone vs Bethesdrone namecalling
>>344195137
If bill gates bought the rights to LOTR and declared it canon that gandalf was actually frodos dad and lover, how many people would take that seriously?
>>344198167
nobody would care because lotr is shite.
>>344191068
I'm kinda surprised this guy was smart. They built him up to be this enraged dumb giga nigger.
>>344198167
No one would, but it would be canon
>>344198374
Just like the eventual MGS6 will be "canon". No one is going to acknowledge it as such.
Though just like MGS fallout inconsistencies can easily be explained away with "retconned" like the entirety of portable ops.
Anyone have that image of the guy in OP's image with the Fallout 4 dialogue options?
>>344198348
I want to fuck her so bad.
>>344191068
it would had a good world map and more places to explore.
>>344198794
Settle down boi
>There's an alien city under the desert!
>Mr. House is actually an alien!
I thought the Synth shit was stupid in 3
Imagine my surprise when they made an entire game around it.
>>344197662
>there are no living trees or plants anywhere because a nuke went off 200 years ago
God allmighty, it's a fucking Mojave Desert you dimwit!
>>344195874
This guy doesn't know shit, to be fair. His knowledge of whatever he speaks of is usually incredibly lacking or ignoring other factors.
>>344199009
>>There's an alien city under the desert!
What did he mean by this?
>>344199101
The Synth shit was the only thing about 3 that wasn't stupid though
>>344191068
You actual cunts.
>>344199141
Anyone ever feel incredibly smug and superior because you were in the chess club as a kid?
I do, and I feel like maybe people are laughing behind my back because of it.
>>344198937
I want to fuck her like an animal.
>>344197856
The "Not only do I have to win you have to lose." attitude by Obsidiots sucks.
I enjoyed 3,NV, and 4 but trying to piss off the hardcore NV fanbois is just too easy and fun.
Their reactions are pavlovian at this point.
>>344197636
In that case then New Vegas still wins by around 20
>>344198348
You could convince him to walk his army home across the desert after blowing up his food,water,and pack animals.
Not seeing what you are seeing.
>>344197636
he means DLC not mods
>>344198348
He's not smart, he's just had Legion propaganda fed to him since he learned to speak English. The same way Frank Horrigan is actually dumb as shit but sounds eloquent because he's just channeling Enclave propaganda.
>>344200398
Not the guy you were originally arguing with but most of the locations in NV weren't really fleshed out. There are a few exceptions but if there's one thing Bethesda can do right it's making interesting locations,
Whats the best ending for new vegas? I personally enjoy the independent vegas ending, but the ncr one is alright.
>>344200839
Forgot to add, I was referencing 3. The locations in 4 are trash.
>bethesda will never allow obsidian to make another fallout game
>fallout 4 was trash
reeeeeeeee etc.
>>344197662
>>the rockets that jason bright and his ghouls want to launch are actually nukes that they launch at novac, if you kill them for it you lose karma
They would do this.
>>344195137
>Bethesda owns the series, they declared Fallout 3 as canon, Fallout NV also declartes 3 as canon.
>Fallout 3 canon
>Enclave plot
>Canon
YOU BECOME THE LEADER OF CAESARS LEGION AFTER YOU MURDER CAESAR!!!!!!!!!!! AND YOU CAN ALSO BE GENERAL OF THE NCR AFTER YOU DO 7 QUESTS THAT INVOLVE YOU SHOOTING SOME CAESARS LEGION SOLDIERS!!!!!!!!
>>344202212
It is. If not ED-E does not exist.
>inb4 it's only canon because i said so!
>>344201775
I'd rather have all Fallout games be shit than have all Fallout games be shit AND have droning retards who act like their special snowflake developer did any better
>>344200951
I like the House ending as an evil character.
HATE HOOVER DAM
>>344202592
>I don't want a legitimately good game to exist because I hate anonymous wankers wanking about it on my piece of shit forum about chinese cartoon pornos
wew lad kys
>>344192149
best part of this is that the guy is wearing the uniform of the synths that are programmed to hunt down and kill renegade synths
...and hes talking to the person in charge of rescuing these renegade synths
bravo bethesda
>>344195485
Did you know the first Fallout isn't actually an isometric game as many believe?
I'm genuinely not trolling.
>>344193163
>took HEAVY influence from Fallout 3 because Obsidian did barely any research on fallout lore
Primo fucking bait
>>344202759
I'll believe Obsidian can make a good Fallout game when they prove it
So far they've proven otherwise
>>344202887
you mean wasteland?
Assault Carbine, normal or GRA? Normal gets more damage, GRA can fire faster and has a slow degrade.
>>344191068
There would only be the 3 big factions, most unfinished, there wouldn't have been dialogue checks, only one ending with no different outcome, half of towns gone.
>>344203052
No no, the actual first Fallout game released 1997
>>344203229
explain
>>344203053
always GRA
>>344204010
It's cavalier-oblique. Confirmed by Tim Cain at GDC.
You're chilling with your girlfriend at the Prospectors Saloon when this girl comes up to you and slaps your girlfriends ass. What do?
>>344204531
I show her a 2k texture and watch her crash.
>>344204531
Sell her to Vulpes :^)
>>344204531
Use the lady killer perk for threesome
>>344204335
GRA has lower damage though, doesn't get the Grunt perk
>>344200090
>I am le ebic troll
Kill yourself
>>344204717
forgot DLC perks don't affect weapons from other DLCs, is there not a mod to fix that?
>>344194383
Is there a Mrs.Claw mod?,Need it for research purposes
also
>this fucking thread
>>344191068
Vegas would be structured like DC and 90% inhabited by raiders and super mutants
House would want the robot upgrade to retake Vegas, the obvious good guy choice.
NCR would want house's robots for themselves.
Legion would have wanted to turn the strip into a stronghold, even though they would have to clear the super mutants and raiders out and then deal with house and his robots.
>>344191068
The map would be bigger and full of exotic locations and dungeons which would be fun, but the story and writing would suffer. Instead of what we got the story would be something related to looking for a missing family member and then join some faction half way through (probably the brotherhood since it's bethesda's favorite faction) to fight the bad guys. Since they lack any sort of creativity i doubt they would've created something like the legion. Instead what you have to fight would probably be the evil aliens or some retarded shit. All the other faction wouldn't exist and instead would be just settlements with their own wacky side quests. The game would arguably be more finished since they would take their sweet time to make it (18 months? try 4 years). Traits, or skills for that matter wouldn't exist, that much was destined to happen. The game would have level scaling so all the babies can go wherever they want from the beginning. The game would have less bugs at launch. There would be less side quests but they would be longer and more about killing stuff. The game would be filled with essential characters that you can't kill. Anything else?
>>344205372
You forgot one thing.
Objective: survive.
>>344198167
It would be the same thing that happened when George Lucas went off his meds and made the Star Wars prequels. Everyone accepted that nonsense was now canon, except the dumb masses lapped it up while the nerds raged on the internet for a decade.
>>344205976
hmm.. Yes, Fallout 3 and 4 are indeed the fallout equivalent of star wars prequels.
>>344195137
The fire ants might as well have the same explination as to why there's super mutants on the east coast. Similar situations lead to similar creatures, and Big MT probably did some crap at one point and made them for a gag. There, mystery solved.
>>344194452
>>344194574
>>344195597
Let me educate you in this subject
the following worked on the original fallouts and fallout nv :
Chris Jones
Darren L. Monahan
Chris Avellone
Joshua Sawyer
Even fucking Timothy Cain the fucking creator of Fallout worked at Obsidian, so they do know about the lore. For real, if you think Fallout NV doesn't follow the lore you've only played Fallout 3.
>>344195137
>Lesko's fire ants
They're not Lesko's fire ants. They're just regular giant ants, which have existed in Fallout 2.
The Fallout 3 versions breathe fucking fire.
>>344206906
>Lesko used FEV
>the only FEV source in the area is a vault guarded by a shitton of super mutants
>somehow this guy got a sample
gr8 work emil
Neither Josh Sawyer or Chris Avellone worked on the original Fallout games.
The other two did though.
>>344207020
Avellone was one of Fallout 2 Designers, Van Buren Lead Designer.
Sawyer was Van Buren Lead Technical Designer
>>344207162
>FEV
I had to look that up to confirm. Holy shit have they no shred of creativity? When I played through F3 I thought he got the fire ants through selective breeding or something.
>>344199141
>, it's a fucking Mojave Desert you dimwit!
The Mojave DOES have a lot of flora, actually. Cacti are only a portion. Read on that shit, desert flora is actually a pretty interesting thing.
>the reason people want Hoover dam is for fresh water
>Robot gives you unlimited fresh water anyways
>>344207384
I guess this is 4 you >>344207261
>>344207384
>Sawyer was Van Buren Lead Technical Designer
Eh?
Works[edit]
Icewind Dale (2000), designer
Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter (2001), designer
Icewind Dale II (2002), lead designer
Neverwinter Nights 2 (2006), lead designer
Alpha Protocol (2010), designer
Fallout: New Vegas (2010), director, lead designer
Pillars of Eternity (2015), director, lead designer, writer
>>344207513
The same shit in 4
>Institute has FEV
>no mention of where they got it
>no visible source in the area
>but they have FEV
>>344207686
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Joshua_Sawyer
>He then moved on to Black Isle's Fallout 3 project, codenamed Van Buren, which used the same engine, as lead technical designer. After Chris Avellone left Interplay, Sawyer became the lead designer of Van Buren
>>344207582
NCR/House want it for electricity. Water is a side benefit.
Caesar wants it because it exists.
>>344207891
Sawyer was also the one who came up with project names being after presidents.
>>344191068
goty material
>>344207686
I checked here
fallout.gamepedia.com/Van_Buren_developers
also wikipedia page on Van Buren states the same
>>344207918
>Caesar wants it because it exists.
Also because he's butthurt about losing the first battle and wants to feel like he's Caesar crossing the Rubicon.
>>344208025
Where's Fallout 4's GOTY awards, then?
>>344207891
Can't they come up with something different for once? They were doing a good job with the robot shit but they couldn't leave old shit be. Leave FEV alone. It was annoying even back when Fallout 2 shoehorned it in. At least everything else was new, but there was no real reason to bring FEV back as something entirely different than what it was. Let me see an interesting, new doomsday weapon. The stuff should have just been destroyed in Fallout 1. Which it was.
>>344208390
we won the DICE goty, and more importantly it was the goty in peoples hearts...
>>344195874
>what do they eat????
>>344208562
Also won the BAFTA.
Lost the Dorito Popes though.Check must have gotten there late.
>>344208469
They are afraid that if they take away the iconic elements from the series like the super mutants, BoS, etc fans won't recognise the game as a sequel or something. Like if old fans of the series gave a shit at this point. Most of the people that like the bethesda fallouts are TES fans that want to play skyrim with guns in the apocalypse.
