How do we save Sonic?
>>344179905
July 22nd
>>344179905
the last good sonic game was S+K. also the only way to save him is revert to pixel 2d platformers with genesis engine
>>344179905
Sonic Generations was pretty legit
Make a Rouge-centered game with thieving and sneaking and jiggle physics galore.
>>344179905
Make him go faster.
>>344180834
I'm waiting for disappointment. I just am. I want to be excited, but I'm just not. I know there will be some prime time bullshit.
>>344181825
Believe in the power of memes
>>344181938
I believe that the power of the "We want Sonic Adventure 3" meme will rear it's ugly head.
The adventure series was always trash, including SA2. Never understood why people want that garbage. Thats honestly what I'm expecting.
>>344179905
Sonic Megadrive comic is a good startsomeone post it.
>>344181031
I don't know, I thought Generations was pretty good. Other than that though, I've pretty much given up on Sonic.
>>344179905
If you watch more Gamegrumps, you'll come to understand how Sonic was never good like I have.
>>344183417
18+
>>344183417
>Watch more gamegrumps
>>344183417
Kill yourself.
>>344179905
>How do we save Sonic?
videogame-wise, i don't think its possible.
we'll never get another 2d sonic with proper ball physics and layered level paths.
we'll never get an adventure 3 thanks to the budget/effort requited to have multiple characters and extras like chao garden.
plus current sonic fans just want to go fast and don't give a shit for gameplay anyways.
(see everyone that liked unleashed/generations)
>>344184820
At least we have Sonic Retro.
>>344179905
We can't.
>>344183731
>>344183927
>>344184201
Hello newfriends. Haven't you learned tons of /v/ posters love to bait?
>>344179905
Make good games. The kind of game is actually completely irrelevant as long as it's a good game.
Retire him for 10 years.
>>344185782
Fuck off Boco. You really want Sonic to die in the shitty environment we're in?
>>344186079
Not for good.
Just take a decade long break, come back refreshed, and hopefully use that break to realize what went wrong.
>>344186238
Only if that means dominating the entire industry.
Sonic's fucked at this point, 4 proved that Sega can't get someone to make a good 2D sonic game and 3D Sonic games are now focused on set pieces and minimal gameplay for the "GOTTA GO FAST" mentality instead of focusing on speed and physics creating fun experimental gameplay
>>344186380
I doubt he'll ever reach those levels again, sadly.
>>344179905
Make it go back to being a 2d game that focuses on gameplay instead of a shitty fanfiction story. A platforming game about going fast is atomatically shit when 3/4s of the level are just cliffs, edges, and instant death.
>>344186808
>tfw Sonic will never dominate the industry again and btfo Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony
>tfw Sonic will never make appearances in commercials mocking Mario, Sonyggers, Xbots, or indie gamers
>tfw the Sonic twitter is as good as it gets
You know you want it, Boco.
Just make a Breath of the Sonic. Cut Robotnik and make some new villain to show you're serious about moving on. Dump as much money as possible into making it great and release it on all three consoles. Do whatever it takes to get atleast 9/10 reviews and stir up media attention by either making it darker and uncharacteristically bloody or appease the liberals with some sort of strong brown hedgehog girl who's also super genius. Set up Shadow as an edgier gun-happy character who always gets the best lines and steal the scenes. Also incorporate a comfy, fun Chao Garden, franchise, and come out with a Chao Garden app.
Release a remastered collection of the older games on all 3 consoles.
Release a Shadow the Hedgehog Cowadoody clone.
Announce Breath of the Sonic 2.
>Dismantle Sonic Team and replace them with people who know shit about fuck
>Fire Pontac and Graff. They can't write a joke to save their lives and all their stories so far are just build up to nothing.
>Don't bend over backwards trying to appeal to the fans. It's impossible.
>Quit reinventing the wheel every other game.
>>344187186
>cut Robotnik
Stopped reading there.
>>344187105
It'd be neat, but it would take alot of work that Sega might not be up to.
Another reason to take a break; in ten years there will be a new generation of kids that eat it whatever they put out, simply because they don't know any better.
>>344186874
Get good.
>>344187186
You are just as bad as the official Sonic Team.
I normally just shitpost and call everyone in these threads a dogfucker, but I just played sonic generations and it's really neat. Why didn't they make more like that?
>>344187471
I see everyone wanting "more from Generations".
More 3D? More 2D? More of both?
>>344188650
OTP.
We don't. Sonic was a product of the times. Let it die.
>>344189435
never.
the new sonic boom game coming out for 3ds looks good
>>344179905
>that shading that implies that Sonic has a dumb, three spike mohawk
Classic American Sonic always looked awful, it's probably the worst looking incarnation of Sonic honestly.
>>344189435
>t. Nintendrone who watches Game Grumps
Mario is a product of the 80's, let him die.
>>344184820
>Adventure
>Better gameplay than Generations
Yup, I really did like struggling with shitty controls and cameras, yup yup.
And spending 10 minutes on a shitty treasure hunting stages, oh man that was my big favorite.
Adventure was the start of the cancer that killed Sonic. While they weren't bad games by any means, they did a lot of things wrong.Well, at least you aren't a Heroes apologist, those guys are the worst.
Simple, take all the money used on Sonic's upcoming games and use it to promote Yakuza in the west and euthanize the little rodent shit
>>344189947
Mario made the transition better. The last decent Sonic game was SA1. Every game since then has not been worth the time anyone put into making them.
And as for the Game Grumps thing, I have literally never seen a single episode of that show. But I doubt that is going to stop you from thinking otherwise.
>>344187186
>>>fanfiction.net
>>344187636
Honestly, running just feels really good in Generations. Just take the Generations controls, revamp the physics, and expand the levels, and you could have a masterpiece on your hands.
>>344190261
>The last decent Sonic game was SA1.
How could you enjoy SA1 but not 2? I don't understand this, the flaws in 1 were more apparent than the flaws in 2.
>>344187260
There is no such thing as "Sonic Team" anymore. It's just a brand name applied to whichever internal studio is developing a Sonic game at the time, which is currently Consumer Research and Development Division No. 2. If they had another dev team in Sega do a game then they'd be "Sonic Team."
>>344190261
Oh, and let me clarify one other thing: I don't care about Mario either. The last Mario game I played was Sunshine and I didn't even give enough of a damn about it to finish. I just said to let Sonic die because this is a Sonic thread.
I don't know, maybe an Adventure-esque game could get them slowly back on a disjointed track, but at this point it's all about memes to them.Also is it me or did Knuckles look like he was better having a Beat' Em Up style of stages rather than treasure hunting
>>344179905
It doesn't need saving. The games are good.
Sonic franchise's bad reputation doesn't make sense.
>>344193842
That's not what gamers think
>>344186531
Summed it up better than I would've.
I guess at least the graphics and comics are nice to look at though.Blaze, Sally and Nicole are a cute.
>>344195816
Blaze is a QTP2T
>>344184820
>takes the piss out of everyone that liked Unleashed/Generations
>wants Adventure 3
Generations was the best 3D Sonic game by miles. People make fun and say that it was all about boosting but you had to make snap decisions on which routes to take and there was some real hardcore platforming on the last three levels. Final Boss was utter shite and the story was a few crumbs of stale bread but the core gameplay was there.
Not that it matters though. Lost World proved that Sonic Team want to keep reinventing the wheel.
lost world had worse gameplay than 06 and had zero originality on all other aspects
>>344199373
lost world was alright it felt different than other sonic games.
what'd you guys think of this I was thinking about getting this and generations on ds since I have it on pc but the 3ds version is different
>>344199705
it was too "inspired" by mario galaxy and new super mario bros
>>344199961
I liked how the last act of Sky Road had straight up Firebars.
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>>344200906
i guess i blocked that out of my memory, the one that comes to mind for me is how literally bowser with the spike bands becomes giant for the final boss encounter
>>344189987
Thanks for letting us know you're a colossal tard. Wobbly SA2 controls and shitty SA1 camera =/= gameplay. Also, no one wants treasure-hunting stages back, not even people who enjoy them like myself. When someone says they want another Adventure-style game, about 99% of the time they're only referring to Sonic's gameplay-style.
>>344179905
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr7xjxZ6J8w
All they really have to do is go back to the sonic adventure style of gameplay and music.
>>344199823
Why do they keep on pushing the Boom franchise if most people and critics agreed that the games and show range from ok to terrible?
>>344202743
Shit quality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYn-ipADKJ4
>>344202885
the show gets good numbers and sega is in too deep to just can it and then pretend that it never happened
>>344202885
Who the flying fuck is saying the show is bad? Most people either like it or are completely indifferent to it. From the few episodes that I've personally seen, it's pretty good. I would put it on the same level as SatAM.
>>344202265
>Wobbly SA2 controls and shitty SA1 camera =/= gameplay.
Yes, anon, being able to see and interact with the game world is a major part of gameplay.
>>344202956
I just didn't want to use an extended version, but fine. We can agree Gamma had the best themes though, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJb5x6gWozc
>>344203239
You better be praying at this point, Anon, whether your post is a joke or not.
>>344203063
>>344203241
>from ok to terrible
>ok
>>344203432
praying or playing? I dont get what you mean
>>344187636
>More 3D? More 2D? More of both?
More like the game I just fucking mentioned. I swear all that furry porn makes you dogfucker retards extra-stupid.
>>344203326
What I meant is that you're using non-logic and acting like weird controls and a terrible camera are part of the fucking gameplay-formula. I just phrased it in a shitty way.
>>344203604
PRAYing, Anon. PRAY that you don't your ass perma-banned.
>>344203789
The weird controls and camera are, arguably, a result of the gameplay formula. It's difficult to make a camera that works and controls that are tight for a game that plays like the Adventure games, and I think it may be beyond Sega's abilities to make it work.
>>344204163
SA1's controls are fantastic (unless you're playing DX), and the camera in SA2's speed stages is fine, except for occasional width-perception issues.
>>344204021
I still dont know what you are talking about
