>No reversal
INTO THE TRASH IT GOES
he isnt finished anon
CRUSH
>>344145829
Fuck you OP, he's strong as fuck
>>344146153
And then he gets knocked down and can't get up.
Get fucked
What do you mean no reversal? Ex tackle is kind of a reversal, and it's invincible on startup. CA could be considered a reversal too.
>>344146373
>raw super
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>344146373
>wake up super is a reliable reversal
only on v
>>344146560
You said he had no reversal, I'm just proving he does.
>>344146703
Supers aren't reversals you dumb motherfucker
>>344146737
Are you retarded?
>>344145829
>reversal meme
Please learn to play
>>344145829
Only, like 7 characters have a reversal, and only 4 are meterless.
They are also extremely exploitable.
JUST BLOCK.
>>344146870
No you dumb nigger. A reversal is a move that can be used to aid in escaping wakeup that can be used at ANY time. No one worth his salt would ever super on wakeup because a wiffed super will give your opponent the round.
Karin for example struggles to stay alive after a knockdown because she requires meter to save herself.
>>344146367
Thats seriously like 70% of the characters in V.
It's stupid.
>>344145829
His EX headbutt is a reversal which you can fallow up with fMP (gives you reset) or stHP (knockdown).
Do your research before making a thread, shitter.
V reversal you dumb fuck. If you can't play a character without a wakeup DP you are garbage
>>344147196
Not armoured frame 1
Not a reversal
>>344147189
>70% of the roster isn't viable
That's the point
>>344147341
Viable? Yes
Good? No
>>344147245
>V-Reversal
>reversal
God dammit /v/
>>344147273
It is, idiot. And it's punishable with crash counter.
>>344147087
Vega's U2 was one of his only reversals.
>>344146671
Infiltration must be the biggest scrub then.
https://youtu.be/TRBEWQsd4LI?t=2m8s
>>344147442
Nash is the exception because he has 2 get out of jail free cards and the second best projectile in the game.
Try again
>>344147341
Learn to fucking block, dipshit.
>>344147526
How is that different from Urien?
>>344147442
You think Nash is good because his super is a reliable reversal?
Only on v
>>344147437
Different anon, is it afterall? Anyone got a video on it? Can't use the mod because I haven't bought Alex.
>>344147435
>Block on wakeup
>V reversal
>Opponent is now off you
HURR DURR GOTTA HAVE A SHORYUKEN
>>344147575
Jesus Christ, I'm not with OP but you help his argument when you post dumb shit like this.
>>344147648
>Get thrown
>>344147548
>block
>get triple grabbed
Fan-fucking-tastic play you made there pal.
>>344147575
Because you can actually get a knockdown on Urien
>>344147648
>block on wake up
That's assuming the opponent won't throw your ass.
>>344147698
>Block DP
>50% life crush counter punish
Much better isn't it?
IT'S LIKE ALMOST EVERYONE HERE SUDDENLY FORGOT HOW SF4AE'S WAKEUP GAME WORKED.
>>344147648
Balrog's V-Reversal is like -2, if you V-Reversal on wake up and it's blocked you're going to eat a full combo.
>>344147737
Welcome to SFV, where wake up is rock paper scissor.
>>344147821
It's not like vortex is a thing on SFV anyway.
>>344147087
You are fucking retard, look up definition of "reversal"
>>344147829
>Minus 2 on block
>Fastest moves in the game are 3 frames
>Eating a full combo
>>344145829
But Nash doesn't have a reversal and he's top 3
>>344147829
>V-Reversal on wake up
>punishing a -2 for a full combo
I don't know where to start
>>344147829
>-2
What 2 frame startup moves that lead into full vombo are in the game?
>>344147903
Not him, but he's half right.
And in this game, he might as well be completely right because of how bad 5's wakeup game is.
>>344147594
Testing now, it's not armoured, it's fully invincible and I guarantee that's not staying
>>344145829
Didn't have one in 3S either.
At least you've got V-Reversal.
>>344148045
I know it goes through projectiles but I just now remembered there was no armor when I tested it on story mode, only with vskill. So I guess reversal anon was full of shit?
>>344148114
Could always wake up with a parry.
>>344148186
Why the fuck do you need armor when you have full invincibility?
>>344148186
Making a webm now, 100% invincible.
You'd be delusional to think that's making the cut though.
>>344148012
Reversal is not a dp. Reversal is any move you do when you gain control of your character.
Any move can be reversal, you even get "reversal" on the screen when you do it.
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Super_Street_Fighter_IV/Universal_Abilities/Reversals_Meaty_Attacks
But not every reversal is invincible frame-1 armored reversal.
>>344148309
>>344148313
Is invisibility the same as having armor? I thought it was only for projectiles.
>>344148332
And this makes lacking a reversal not spell doom how?
>>344148332
>But not every reversal is invincible frame-1 armored reversal.
>armored
Only Birdie's EX Horn and VT headbutt are frame-1 armored in this game.
>>344148420
Invincible means invincible friend
Why do you think dp's are so good?
>>344148473
Everyone has a reversal because any move can be performed in reversal window.
>>344148420
No. You can throw moves with armor. Invisibility means total invisibility.
Here we are.
but if Balrog isn't allowed his headbutt then I doubt this is staying
>>344148420
>>344148626
>invisibility
Try again
>>344148542
>>344148626
>>344148676
So its like that during all of its animation? Yeah, its getting nerfed alright.
>>344148676
I can't see that move staying
>>344148806
During startup and active frames.
>>344147829
Literally the only move in the entire game that can punish something that is -2 is Zangief's CA
>>344148832
Why? It cost a meter. Ryu and necalli can do it without spending anything.
They can remove fallow ups tho.
>>344147829
>-2
>eat a full combo
So you never played the game. Ok thanks for clearing that one up.
>Only 2 characters in the game can parry
What the fuck
>>344147994
Vega is up there as well, and his v-reversal sucks ass on top of him having no reversal.
>>344149012
Because the only character with a viable metered reversal that doesnt already have a meterless one is Birdie and I honestly believe that was an oversight.
>>344149154
imb4 that video
>>344149012
Because this move isfun
>>344149154
Vega is solidly mid tier
>>344148676
Yep, no way in hell Urien will keep this invincible reversal, he would be too OP considering the rest of hos toolkit.
>>344147829
/v/ doesn't actually play fighting games
>Charge character
Into the trash it goes
>>344149549
>>344149549
>>344149615
low iq scrubs playing ofF MY smart brain
>>344149241
He doesn't have 3f jab.
>>344150072
My mistake then, sorry.
Into the trash he goes.
>>344148676
Balrog Wakup Uper punch has super armor and deals comand grab level damage.
He needs no easy to punish headbutt.
>>344149126
To be fair Ryus parry is kinda shit vs most attacks and Alexes requires v trigger and amazing timing but if used correctly can parry and punish almost everything in the game.
>>344150443
Wanna try typing that one in english champ?
>>344150443
Not frame 1 armor and not throw invincible.
>>344150443
>Balrog Wakup Uper punch has super armor
Isn't super armor active only on the third frame?
>>344150835
Correct.
>>344150532
So shit.
http://www.eventhubs.com/images/2016/jun/26/ceo-highs-08/
>>344151351
Oh wow it's that thing he could've just blocked
Fuck off diaper.
>>344151351
>could have just blocked
>huge ass window on parrys compared to 3s, you can literally mash out chun-li's CA
>HOLY SHIT SO OP TOKIDO IS GOD
>>344151591
3f startup and leaves you in counterhit state if you miss
>>344151867
>oh, I'll just shoryuken then
>oh, I can't react in time, I'll use my 3f jab then
Ryu is retarded.
>>344151351
You could have picked the point where he parried EX Moonsault, catching the first two, throwing out a jab to create a buffer that would properly time parrying the third kick, following up with a punish that otherwise would have been blocked because Nash would be +1.
Or anticipating the max range standing MK on wakeup and following with a crouching punch. Something not possible with a block.
>>344152423
I couldn't find it.
How many active frames is the parry on Alex's v-trigger closeline charge?
>>344147341
>Most balanced fighting game roster in the history of the genre
>Suddenly not viable because of no reversals
KEK, casual
>/v/ is so terrible at fighting games that people throw a fit and give up a character when they dont come equipped with a fraudtastic DP
>>344147829
ALL V REVERSALS ARE MINUS TWO YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
MINUS TWO IS SAFE
YOU KNOW WHAT DPS ARE ON BLOCK?
MINUS FUCKING FOURTY
/V/ TALKING ABOUT FIGHTING GAMES MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL
>>344149196
Vegas V-Reversal just serves a different purpose. It's more to punish usually safe moves rather than getting the pressure off you.
Not to mention still bad in the corner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9YrbUzCSFc
genius!
>>344152880
just shows the mentality of a 09'ers - SF4 BABBIES THAT GREW UP WITH FADC
>>344152863
This game is way too much offense based to have meterless reversal, specially on such good characters like Ryu, Ken and Necalli.
Even if they locked invincibility behind meter, they could still do like Karin: save all the meter to have super in stock when you land a hit and win the round, because they have good ways to get in.
And of all supers, they nerfed Alex's.
>>344147648
Unless you're vega in the corner. Fuck I hate playing vs mika so much
Reminds me of people saying that Nash isnt that great because he has no free DP back on launch.
You parrot bitches need to eat a dick and play more games before you shit your garbage opinion out of your mouth.
That includes PR Balrog who started this meme.
https://twitter.com/INFILTRATION85/status/750974292435750915
>>344150931
So like Mika's it will only work while your opponent is mistiming their meaty.
>>344155663
Its funny because Infiltration plays no character with babbymode reversals.
So far we know of his Nash, Alex and Fang and apparently he has another character up his sleeve.
>>344147706
If you get thrown three fucking times in a row that's your own goddamn fault. You know you don't have a reversal. They know you don't have a reversal so you have two options
1. risk hitting a button
2. block
Most people aren't just going to walk up throw all the time because that's fucking retarded. However if someone does do that you should know how to tech out of a throw.
TL;DR git gud you fucking casual scum
>>344155754
by next year he's gonna be playing the full fucking roster.
0 mains 44 backups champion.
>>344151425
That CA parry was only to make Infil scared, it was to make a statement.
It worked too, because after that ex-moonsalt parry, Infiltration became a lot more tame.
So I'll still call that CA parry a good play just because of the mental effect it had.
>>344155916
people underestimate mental damage.
like when I play a long set against a guy and then use one birdie AA chain after ten rounds and it lands he's completely mindfucked.
>>344156045
that's because people on /v/ are retarded
Half the fun of playing fighting games is getting into peoples heads. If you can throw them off their game it increases odds of winning.
Around here everyone just does the same rinse and repeat fucking combos and never changes how they play though so that's not surprising.
>>344153631
You say as if throwing a DP was a fail safe way of getting the pressure off you, when it is actually super risky and can result into your losing 40% life, and possibly getting stunned and dying.
Sure, it is useful by itself only because it exists, its something else for the opponent to consider, but if they get a decent read on you, your tool becomes your downfall.
Sure, coming from SF4, where having your DP blocked was not a huge deal, no different from getting caught pressing a button on wakeup, maybe even safer if you were willing to spend bar on FADC, but times changed, and now you see full sets in which Cammy won't do a single wakeup cannon spike because she didn't want to die instantly to a crush counter.
>>344156293
Welcome to /v/
Where in SFIV everyone did Wakeup ultra and everyone in this game does wakeup DPs
/v/ is more free in this game than lebbit and that's pretty sad.
is M.Bison still shit? I played him non stop at release and couldn't break past the wall of R.Mikas, Chuns and Lauras at 6k
>>344156713
>struggling as bison vs laura
I thought I was the only one. Her guessing game command grab bullshit pisses me off so much.
>>344156713
>no overhead
>no reversal
>mediocre cross up and jump ins
>gets raped by crush counter
>folds like a lawn chair under pressure
He's shit m8
>>344156713
>Is M.Bison still shit?
Yeah. It didn't really take long for people to figure out that he has pretty much the same weaknesses as he did in 4, so he's back to shit tier.
Invincible reversals are overrated as fuck.
>>344156713
>>344156915
>>344157030
>dictator is back and supposedly more powerful than ever
>bitching new coat and white hair
>based norio wakamoto delivers the goods
>capcom change literally nothing aside from adding and removing a few moves
>address none of what made him dogshit in 4
I still play him, but I hate every moment of it.
>>344157261
>>capcom change literally nothing
>/v/ talking about fighting games
>>344157261
They should have never fucked with heavy kick
>>344157336
what did they change aside from adding in more gimmicks that simply don't work on anyone who isn't new to the game?
>>344156915
>Gets raped by crush counter
He has no moves that leave him in crush counter state, his chances of getting crush countered are the same as any other character with no invincible reversal.
You forgot to mention how plus he always is while he is the one pressuring, the amount of gray damage he does with during his pressure, and the amount of damage he does on each confirm.
If he had Cammy's movement speed to help his throw game, then he would be broken as fuck, but because he needs to do his teleport dash to start a throw mix-up, which can be stuffed, then he is only mid tier.
>>344157342
standing heavy kick won me so many games. if you were able to control spacing well, you were a jump-happy shitter check brick wall.
>>344157756
Bison is very reliant on cr medium punch
>>344157725
>most buttons
>slower walk speed
>completely different forward dash
>three new special moves, including a projectile
YEAH HE DIDN'T CHANGE AT ALL MATE.
>>344157756
his standing heavy punch (both the stationary one and one that moves him forward) should be overheads. the animations clearly seem like they would be anyway.
>>344157725
They removed his signature AA/poke the HK, they completely fucked with his walkspeed and turned him from one of the fastest to one of the slowest characters.
They turned a pokey defensive footsie character into a retarded frametrap monster with huge damage and actual combos.
His scissors are much worse too now and his air faggotry was made much less safe so he cant escape ever.
I bet there are some who enjoy this playstyle, but he got changed HEAVILY and if you cant see it then you seriously dont know shit.
He got changed much more than others that got a rework because his whole approach to fights changed.
Its almost Birdie tier.
>>344157984
I think he was implying that the changes were superfluous and weren't what he needed. Obviously there were mechanic and cosmetic changes.
What is the purpose of his v-skill? From what I gather it gives a 1 hit armor for any of his special attacks besides the sphere, and it's a only time use (similar to Alex in that regard), but is that it's only properties?
>>344158147
Bison would be good in this game if he had his old heavy kick.
Bison can't do shit to anyone who blocks low.
>>344158147
Who the fuck enjoyed SFIV Bison?
>>344158093
>two overheads both are the same button
stop
>>344155754
>no character with babbymode reversals.
Hold on, are you saying that /v/ of all places is exaggerating the importance of a single aspect?
>>344158361
I did. I like stupid normals.
Its why I play Birdie now, dip into chun li and look forward to Urien.
>tfw Akuma still isn't in
>tfw you won't see Tokido winning Evo with Akuma
>>344158526
You will, in tekken
>>344158526
He'll win Tekken 7:^)
>>344158526
Akuma's busy killing Mishimas, he'll be back next year.
>>344158614
>>344158620
Does he even play Tekken?
>>344158361
Behold anon, one of the greatest pokes to browse street fighter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBQ5AS1kqBM
Bison was upper mid in the 4 series anyway.
>>344158614
>>344158620
it's amazing the incredible amounts of butthurt day 1 Akuma is causing in the Tekken community.
>>344158668
Yeah
>>344158668
Tokido plays lots of crap and picks good characters in each game he plays. He played 6BR and picked Bob
>>344158668
Tokido plays everything
Him and Poongko have been tearing up Korean asshole with Akuma in 7 right now.
>>344158669
I recorded a tribute too.
https://youtu.be/qnot6thvajM?t=58
>Not maiming Peter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9YrbUzCSFc
>>344158614
>>344158620
>>344158654
This is Tokido's best SF year, he's playing so fucking solid it's amazing, I think if he ever gets a chance to win Evo it'll be this year, and seeing him winning with Ryu will be a bit sad.
>>344158314
He does have a a long-ass throw range though, you can mix your offense with throws. Or do ex-devil reversal after you accumulated some gray damage from your pressure, if they block, they will have to guess and even a throw will do a lot of damage because of the gray life.
Or you can throw a ex-psycho blast and use it as a shield for you to advance and do a throw or a throw bait.
Either way, you need to spend meter to get shit done, because dash in throw doesn't work that well nowadays.
>>344158923
Currently Ryu feels like he's Akuma tier.
Please someone help me git gut before I abandon this game.
My neutral game is weak. No matter what I do I always lose. My pokes always lose. Sometimes I can't get it no matter what I do. If I mix it up with overheads, throws, baits or whatever, I always get punished. Whenever I throw out random lights they never hit but when my opponent does they even win vs my heavy attacks somehow. My jump ins always get aa'd. Vice versa I can't hit them, they are just out of range or it's a trade at best.
>inb4 reversal
I end up in the endless blocking shit again, as always.
It makes my blood boil goddamn. I just don't know.
>>344158923
No it won't, his parries are hype as fuck and made CEO grand finals ten times cooler
>Ryu and Ken are both god tier
>Both have invincible reversals
HMMMMMMMMM
>>344159053
what character you playing anon?
>>344159053
do you understand how move properties work?
a heavy attack is not guaranteed to beat a light one, especially not if both fire off at the same time.
>>344159117
Ibuki. But does not matter which char. I've been playing Laura a lot.
>>344159003
Nah, playstyle wise Ken is more similar to Akuma than Ryu in SFV, and I don't think Tokido even went to the character that is more similar to Akuma, he just picked Ryu because he knows he's overall the better shoto.
>>344158961
You can see devil's reverse coming from a mile away.
EX Devil's reverse only fucks people in v-trigger
>>344159089
more than likely bait but I'll bite
Wakeup DP is unsafe as shit. If that was the reason both characters were good then you would see it used all the goddamn time in top 8 but the only people who are dumb enough to do it and are dumb enough to get hit by it are the west. That's why Chris T Julio and Brent had that run for a while but now they've fallen back down the ladder. People are finally learn that holding back fucking blocks and that going in on retards who throw out wakeup DP without blocking is retarded.
>>344158820
fuck peter mains
>>344159089
Ken is mid tier
>>344159167
I thought heavy active frames beat the light ones?
Anyways, I hate this game as I make the wrong decisions all the time. The one time I do this, they do that. I want to do that, they do this. And there is no way they can react to most of the things I do, I try to mix it up as much as I can... but I always get punished.
I rarely land a meaty for example, like never.
The stand up animation is weird, they can attack faster than you think.
>>344159053
It sounds like you don't actually understand what you are doing and are blaming it on the deeper concepts of the game you don't actually get
>>344145829
Scrub ass can't block?
>>344159189
Well shit I haven't really played much Ibuki yet and I suck with Laura.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK3oYhhA7g8 Here's Sako playing Ibuki in SFV though. From what I've been able to gather from the little bit I've played though take advantage of her outrageous amounts of pressure she can apply. Also her crossup with bombs is godtier so take advantage of that as well.
>>344159425
But when I block I get thrown! It is also like there is some kind of mind game going on here
>>344159304
It's not that you should always use wakeup DP.
Just having the move forces your opponent to play around it, which makes your wakeup far safer than a character that lacks one.
>>344159251
Its safe and leaves you at their face, that is the point.
>>344159417
Nah son, I do get it. They say "this is SFV, you have to press buttons", but when I do it doesn't work.
Let's say we both are crouch blocking for 10 seconds. I think "okay fuck it, let's throw out a c.mp". They do the same fucking thing but win. Always.
>>344159425
I think people got bad habits from SFIV where they could FADC everything into safety, now that they need to learn how to be defensive in SFV they complain. I bet most people complaining about the game never learned how to block properly.
>>344158923
Ryu winning is always a good thing, it means solid fundamentals is beating gimmicky horseshit in almost all cases.
>>344159368
When a light and heavy trade the heavy wins.
But your average heavy has 7f startup and more, your average light is 4f so it will come out faster and there wont be a trade.
Jumpins are 100% reactable. Close up in your face combat is mostly not reactable and just reads and framedata knowledge.
If you get punished too much you throw out too much unsafe shit.
You learn meaties in training mode. You record a dummy on wakeup and do it a hundred times.
You can do the same with anti airs.
You know what you struggle with so you know what to improve.
>>344159571
Still loses to anyone with solid anti air. V-trigger works because it forces your opponent to guess which side you're coming from.
>>344153381
>combos are unsafe on hit
>>344159707
I probably should do it 100 times yeah...
What I mean is this >>344159576.
My meaty never hits because when I do a meaty they either block or do an invincible move. It's like they know. 99 out of times I do nothing but the 1 time I do a meaty and they magically know and do a dp.
>>344159624
Ryu is rather gimmicky in this.
His dash is too fast and his j.lk bypasses AAs.
He also gets way too much damage off random trades and his damage is generally fucked.
He is still basic as fuck because he is Ryu but he is honestly too strong in 5.
>>344159576
>Let's say we both are crouch blocking for 10 seconds
That shouldn't be happening, you are wasting time, not setting anything up and not gaining anything
>I think "okay fuck it, let's throw out a c.mp". They do the same fucking thing but win. Always.
Against a crouching opponent that is blocking you go for a move that won't properly connect, and have no plan to follow up if it gets blocked. If you know they will throw out a medium then use the priority to use a heavy, shimmy to bait their move out or go for an overhead. You don't know what you are doing and you are not good at reading an opponent.
>>344159546
If you have good footsies it's not a problem at all. Yeah it adds another layer to playing against a character when they've fallen over but that's something you should already know going into that fight. Most people aren't going to wake up DP especially considering most people are going to be thinking about that and if you do then you're more than likely going to eat a huge combo and lose the round. Wakeup DP is almost never worth the risk unless you're playing against PR rog or something.
EX Headbutt is fully invincible
If he has v skill up before getting knocked down, he can just armor through whatever your throw at him
>>344160048
are his vskilled specials armored from frame 1?
>>344159930
When I do an overhead they light punch. When I dash up for a throw they lp or tech. When I sweep they block and sweep me afterwards. When I jump in they aa.
See what I mean? Now they attack and I end up blocking, but I'm always either out of range or have frame disadvantage.
>>344147887
>It's not like vortex is a thing on SFV anyway.
Laura
>>344156293
Yet, I still see more DPs landing than DPs being blocked and punished on top 8s.
>>344149196
Guile and Karin both only have metered reversals, try again
>>344160221
>Laura
>vortex
Explain this shit.
>>344147341
Considering we've had the most diverse Top 8s in a vanilla edition of a game so far, I think its doing fine
>>344147829
>punishing a -2
>>344160183
>>344159930
Also I was just giving an example. No one sits there for 10 seconds. You don't get my point. It's that unlucky shit.
>>344157261
You had your fucking fun in the first two weeks when nobody knew how to block devil's reversal and your v-trigger shenanigans.
Bison deserves to stay mid for the scrubby niggas who play him, both in IV and V. Grab your points online and moan forever because he's utterly useless in tournament play.
>>344160183
My answer is still the same
>You don't know what you are doing and you are not good at reading an opponent.
Your point would only be worth anything if there wasn't ways to deal with what you are getting hit by, everything has something it beats and loses to and you need to chose the correct one based on your situation and opponent
>>344160431
Considering there's 8 frame of input lag it's possible if the guy don't hold back after the v reversal.
>>344160581
>/v/ talking about fighting games
>>344160307
A lot of japan's best have been playing in east asia and brazil to quality for capcom cup. We won't have any legitimate tournament results until EVO.
For the record, The top 7 characters bar nash all have reversals. The only non reversal characters that are relevant besides Nash(who doesn't need one) are Laura and Mika.
Honestly, Snake_Eyez should pick up Mika. He'd do wonders with her
PR Rog said there's no chance of America winning Evo this year, do you agree with him?
>>344160721
Yes
>>344160721
Yes.
But PR Rog is also a whiny bitch and I'm honestly getting sick of his shit at this point.
>>344160721
B- but the trinity...Muh ken
>>344160721
Justin Wong is the only American who I think can beat the top Asians. But he'd have to beat way too many to win it. Shit, he lost to two that didn't get top 8 at CEO.
America's way too free.
>>344159592
People forget there's also back roll,delayed wakeup and V-reversals. I can only kinda agree when you're in the corner, but that's it. Even then Urien has armored moves, doesn't he? and you only have to block like one block string for a V-reversal escape since it causes a hard knockdown
Honestly, don't even listen to anyone that speaks English talk about characters' potential anymore, it seems to be synonymous with scrub mentality lately.
>>344160656
>Honestly, Snake_Eyez should pick up Mika. He'd do wonders with her
He wouldn't, snake has been playing like shit in general
>>344160721
Yes
>>344161140
>Even then Urien has armored moves, doesn't he?
His vskill gives a hit of armour to the next charge move, so technically he has 3 moves with 4 variations that can have armour
>>344161159
He needs a new main.
Not his fault Gief got gutted.
>>344161125
why are Asian players so good?
>>344161159
Yeah, he's hit a mental block. I think Gief being that bad has fucked him up mentally.
>>344149615
GIT THAT ASS BANNED!
>>344161140
There isn't delayed wakeup like in ultra, if someone doesn't quick rise then you simply kill frame for the regular rise and v-reversals require a block to activate, it doesn't protect against meaty throws.
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you but get your shit straight.
>>344161329
One of them just said that he plays 8 hours a day.
Do you think that anybody in america but online only Arturo plays 8 hours a day?
>>344161326
Yeah but his Alex is also complete trash, and at worst Alex is seen as lower mid
>>344160559
You keep your answer. I'm tired of this shitfest.
Again, I try to apply pressure by using light punch > light punch. Sometimes I try to delay the second hit and when I do, I always get dp'd in between. Do they know? No, there is no way that you can react to that. Do they mash? Probably. Ok so wait, let's instead not do a second light punch and block, maybe they will throw out a dp out of nowhere. But they NEVER will.
Can you understand? No? Okay, I am a rank 12000 scrub I guess.
>>344161353
I'd be feeling hopeless if my main got gutted and removed his signature non grappling move.
Seriously, why the fuck did capcom think it was a good idea to remove green hand?
>>344161474
Didn't PR Balrog take two weeks off from work to dedicate to Balrog?
>>344161620
And he found out the hard way that like Bison, Balrog melts under pressure.
>>344161554
Because capcom's not very smart, and probably thought that because he can walk forward during his v-skill, it would be so easy to get in.
>>344161540
If what you use constantly gets beat out in the same situation
>you need to chose the correct one based on your situation and opponent
In that situation, use a true blockstring
>>344161906
You don't get it. I'm not going to explain any further. Thanks though.
>>344161717
He didn't seem very worried about it in the interview he gave though, he seems to think Balrog's damage output compensates his lack in defense.
>>344155914
That shit is seriously impressing.
>>344162196
5 is kind of a defense over offense game right now.
Everyone already does enough damage, but not everyone can ward it off.
>>344149549
He was a charge character in 3rd Strike as well.
He's also super fun to learn
Can this man be stopped?
>>344161329
It's for a lot of reasons:
>Japan usually gets a head start on fighting games with the only exceptions being Western fighting games, SFV (Global Release,) and KoFXIV (US getting it first.)
>Arcades still play a very prominent role in Japanese FGC. The arcade is pretty much the place where you hang out with your friends after work, school, etc. It's also where you meet new rivals and learn new games.
>One thing that gets brought up by most Asian players is sharing information. Instead of hiding tech from their friends/opponents, they make it widely known. According to a lot of Asian players, they say Americans don't really "learn with others" when it comes to fighting games.
That's not everything, but I think those are some of the strongest points about why Asian players excel at fighting games.
>>344160581
>Balrog
>not holding back
Never talk about this game ever again.
>>344162926
Tokido bodied him at CEO.
>>344162926
Yep.
>>344162926
tokido?
>>344162926
Still my favorite man in the FGC
>>344160656
Doesn't matter what character he picks, what matters is that he needs to stop being shit.
His Ryu is shit, his Alex is shit, and now his Zangief is also shit because the other Zangiefs surpassed him.
>>344163178
>>344163184
He threw that game you dummies.
>>344162926
His hairline won't stop receeding, that's for sure.
>>344163267
Go apply Rogaine, Infiltration.
>>344163267
>throwing GF
e-celeb shilling exists now?
>how to spot the 09ers
>reversal means wake up DP
>every character must have it
>>344161326
>>344161353
Snake Eyez apologists still exist.
He already switched mains, twice, he tried Alex, but his Alex is worthless, he tried Ryu, the best character in the game, and still sucked ass. Meanwhile, Stupendous, a literal nobody, got much further than he did at CEO while playing only Zangief.
>>344162926
Hopefully Luffy can make us proud to be french again.But I don't see that happening
>>344155754
100%, it's Chun.
>>344163375
>>344163436
>play perfect during the whole event
>even beat Tokido on the first match of the Top 8 effortless
>get to Grand Finals undefeated
>suddenly is playing like shit
>wake up CA
You guys are retarded, Infiltration knew he would get nothing by winning CEO since he already had a guaranteed spot at Capcom Cup.
Since this is his story outfit that we don't see in the story, and only his hat was left after the fight with Ryu, he lived, right?
>>344163771
Notice his scar, that costume is supposed to be what happened to him after Nash did that shit to him, but for some reason Capcom either got lazy or forgot to add that costume to the scene.
>>344163643
He often does wake-up CA...
But you know what, you're right, the $ 12.000 prize money for first is meaningless, I too would totally throw the match so the poor fella can feel better about himself.
Never post about fighting games again for the rest of your life.
>>344163484
>again
his EVO win was a fluke go fuck yourself frenchman
>>344149615
PISSBOTTLES DA NIGGA
>>344163484
If a Mika player wins Evo I'll drop the game harder than a hot potato.
>>344160048
Yes, there's a video about it on YT
>>344163178
>>344163184
I will laugh so hard if he gets second place at EVo
>>344164726
screencap this post.
Brazil will take evo
>>344163879
Yea i got the feeling that they they rushed a lot of things to get it out in time
Like, they hade all these subplots with Necalli and the Illuminati and Ryus apparently secret traning
And then somewhere along the line someone told them to just drop it and rush Bisons stupid Moon plan shit without explaning anything.
It could have been a cool story if you ask me
>>344164829
But king of last gen isn't main stage
>>344165267
they all moved to street fighter
>>344160278
And Chun.
>>344165609
And Rashid.
>>344165537
but they cant afford PS4s or PCs made in this decade
>>344164962
It could always be extended
That's the thing about the ongoing support. Might be stupid or cool how they do it, but there could be hidden scenes that were supposed to go with the story line, or it gets rearranged every new season with he addition of the new characters, or extra scenes about the whereabouts of other characters like Sakura & Viper who don't exist for some reason...yeah, that'd be cool.
>>344164829
Are you saying that Keoma "I miss Abel" Pacheco will take it? or ChuChu? I haven't even seen Breno touch this game, or could you possibly be talking aboutSarda?
>>344165695
sfv is toaster friendly. I can get constant 60fps on my ladtop
>>344165695
t. Snake Eyez
>>344149126
This is a good thing.
>>344165769
No BR will take at top 8 this year.
And from Sarda i just expect some prime inside evo content for TecMundo.
he's really stiff and shitty in 5
he's arguably the funnest character to play in 3S once you get a grasp on charge partitioning
