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This game is scheduled to be released digitally only in North America. If you had the option, would you buy it if there was a physical version available?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10686619
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When I made my Nintendo account I used hotmail and now it locked me out of my email. so Im wary of buying digital because ill lose everything if i lose the account
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>>344129750
Maya is barely relevant and doesn't deserve a spot on the cover.
Who should she be replaced with?
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>>344130229
Padma

>>344129750
No, I'm pirating it regardless. Done with Capcom's shit.
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>>344130337
I completely forgot about the Star Wars princess. Is she more relevant than Maya?
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>>344130432
Maya is literal fanservice and does nothing.
She's in the box to get more sales.
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>>344130337
>Capcom isn't sure if it wants to localize these games or not, so I'll PIRATE THEM! THAT'LL SHOW THEM!

You're a special breed of stupid, aren't you?
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>>344130432
>central character is named after two Star Wars princesses
>final case isn't called OB-1
Fucking Capcom
ONE
JOB
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>>344130229
Definitely Padma.
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>>344131130
>I will keep licking Capcom's anus and eating the scraps that fall from the table, if any fall at all
>jap exclusive games? o-oh well, I'll still lick your ass, Capcom

Well done.
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If a physical version is available, I'll get it. I still bought B/W/B2/W2 even though I could have easily pirated it a day after it released

If it's digital, I'm basically paying for nothing so why buy it? And it's not even at a discount either so there's no incentive to buy it digitally.
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>>344131402
>Can't form a coherent argument

Typical piratefag.

Just remember you are literally and actually the reason we never got AI2 and almost didn't get AA5
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>>344131792
How's DGS going, friend?

Oh, and be sure to buy 50 copies of AA6 and MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYBE they'll release DGS in the west, just like MAAAAAAAAAAAAAYBE they were going to release AAI2 if we bought 50 AA5 copies.
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>>344131972
DGS has Sherlock Holmes. Can it even be localized and not run into some stupid copyright issues?
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>>344131771
>If it's digital, I'm basically paying for nothing
Except...
y'know.

A game.
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>>344132076
Which I can download? Why would I play for 1s and 0s on my SD card?
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>>344132064
Sherlock Holmes is open domain for years now.
They won't localize for the same reason we didn't get the AA5 quiz dlc.
Too irrelevant to foreign markets and too small of a market in foreign markets for AA.
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>>344132064
It's not localized because Phoenix isn't on the cover and Crapcom doesn't want to sell AA games that aren't Phoenix Wright
Sherlock is also public domain.
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>>344132154
Because you were ALWAYS paying for 1s and 0s.

Or do you honestly believe the pile of plastic and flash storage you get at the store is literally worth 40 bucks on its own?
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>>344129750
Obviously physical
I'm STILL salty about Fatal Frame
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>>344132154
>why would I pay for 1s and 0s
Is your Internet free?
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>>344132303
It's at least something more than a digital download.
It's also a fucking VN with no replay value. Why would I keep it on my SD card after I beat it? On physical I just pop out the cartridge and shelve it.
So why the fuck would I pay for a digital download of a game I'll play once and then delete from my SD card?
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>>344132293
>>344132301
>we know fans wants DGS, but we don't want to release it because we care more about our sales than our fans.

And people are still going to purchase AA6.
Literal cuckolds.
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>>344132701
>We know fans will translate it anyway, why not save time paying wages and instead focus on making the main series and making sure we can afford to localize them?
Can't blame em, DGS is already getting a fan translation.
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>>344132701
If we don't buy AA6 we won't get 7
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>>344132886
Who gives a shit if the main series stops releasing here, then?

Fans will translate it anyway. :^)
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>>344129750
Only if Dual Destinies gets a physical as well
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>>344129750
No. I'm going to pirate it.
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>>344132495
>So why the fuck would I pay for a digital download of a game I'll play once and then delete from my SD card?

Because you like the game and the series (presumably), and you don't want it to fall back into the "We don't know if there's an audience for it" quagmire that it fell into late in the DS's lifespan, ultimately waiting six years for a fan translation to appear out of thin air
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>>344132701
She kinda looks like Mumei.
>KISAMA ARE YOU A LOYALIST OR A REVOLUTIONARY
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>>344132991
Damn nigger nice job missing my point
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>>344132984
And? People will still translate it.

But hey, nice to see Capcom has you all little bitches held by the balls and forcing you to buy a game to be sure to get the next one. If you support this cancerous business model, then I don't want anything to do with the AA fanbase anymore.
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>>344132991
That's completely true though. Capcom's translators aren't even particularly good. Ace Attorney's lucky in that it is completely irrelevant whether or not Capcom localizes it - it has a big fanbase that will translate the games anyway.
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>>344133067
She existed years before Mumei did.
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So no EU digital version? Just NA?
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>>344132303
It has value I can sell if needed. If it's digital I can't even lend the game to a friend.
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>>344133363
In two years... until they sure UK is not part of EU distribution
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The great irony of this whole thing is that literally all of your problems would be solved if you actually fucking BOUGHT the game, but you're so dead set on getting shit for free you'll jump through any hoops necessary to do so.
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>>344133535
Cant you just give your friend your 3DS account and password? Or are accounts device linked or something like that
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>>344133176
>forcing you to buy a game to be sure to get the next one. If you support this cancerous business model

That's literally what every company who has ever released a product has ever done, since the dawn of fucking time.
If you buy a product, there will be more product.
If you DON'T buy a product, there won't be.
That's business 101.
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>>344133689
A supporter of Nintendo is an enemy of mine, its a simple conflict of interest where the other party is guilty and has to simply alter who they support and I begin buying their games. It's not mine or your fault, it's just unfortunate
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>>344133176
This business model you're referring to is called capitalism. The literal only reason any AA games are made at all is because Japanese people buy them.
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>>344132984
We aren't getting games anyway (AAI2, Dai).
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>>344133883
>A supporter of Nintendo is an enemy of mine

Says the man who owns a 3DS and plays every game on it he possibly can
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>>344133791
I didn't have to worry about buying a Layton game and hoping the next one to be localized.

I bought DD, I bought PLvsPW, I bought the trilogy, and I got cucked out of DGS. They are literally telling the fans to buy their games or fuck off forever.
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>>344133703
>doesn't even know how the fucking Nintendo account system works

Everything is tied to the system. You can only have one 3DS and one WiiU per account. You can transfer stuff to another system but it's permanent and it overrides anything on the transferee system. /v/ has been shitting on this for years. Did you just get out of prison?
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>>344133689
>it's the consumers fault that Capcom doesn't want to bring over games and also make them digital only if they do

Good goy
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>>344133176
i don't think you understand how business works...
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>>344134004
To clarify, I buy my Nintendo consoles used so they dont make a dime off me. I buy my flashcarts used so the Chinese don't make a dime off me. I support very slectively and because Nintendo has fualted me as a consumer on 1 occasion, they will never see another dime from me or see my support. And yes Capcom has faulted me which is why they won't see a dime from me either.
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>>344134078
that's pretty bad. I hope that changes with the NX
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>>344134246
Are you still going to defend Capcom if suddenly the game was $60 because WELL DUH IT'S A BUSINESS OF COURSE THEY WANT MONEY

If you don't have respect for yourself and just let yourself get fucked by corporations who don't give a shit about you as consumer, then go ahead.
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>>344134246
>defending anti-consumer practices this much

Just stop.
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>>344134326
Why even bother playing at all, at that point?
Surely, if you feel that strongly about it, just flat not touching their products would be a better solution, wouldn't it?
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>>344134464
You don't know what "anti-consumer" means.
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>>344134612
So it's not anti-consumer to be digital only? To outright refuse us to give us games despite acknowledging there's demand for them? To have un threatened that we won't get more games if we don't buy a million copies?

Ok then.
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>>344134530

It's like if I ordered a burger from McDonalds and they spat in it one time, I still have a desire for burgers but now instead of supporting the company and buying future burgers, I just walk in to the kitchen, make my own burger and walk out, that way I never loose and always end up with my food.
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>>344134825
Except you're not making your own burger.
You're walking into MCDONALDS's kitchen and making your own burger, and then bitching because they want you to leave.
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>>344129750
>digital only + DLC again
>DGS never ever

It's like Capcom is begging me to pirate this game
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>>344134823
Literally the only quantifiable statement in that whole post is the "digital only" bit.

Everything else is Capcom taking their ball and going home, because you won't play with them.
That's not anti-consumer, that's good business sense.
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>>344134974
They shouldn't have spat in my burger then, do you see where I am coming from? If you spit in my burger I will make my own burgers from there on out. I WILL come inside the kitchen and there is nothing to discuss and nothing to bitch about, I have a moral right as a consumer who is protecting my consumer right, I am the one who is vunerable here, not the kitchen or MCdonalds, they are all rich corporations, I am merely a single human standing for my rights.
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>>344135120
>we will shit all over our fans, that is good business sense
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>>344135120
>giving the middle finger to your fans, the people who buy your games, is a "good business sense"

Oh, okay. Enjoy DGS, then. Oh wait, you can't because it was a good business decision to not bring the game over to us dumb gaijins.
But hey, Capcom knows what's best for you, right?
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>>344135412
>>giving the middle finger to your fans, the people who buy your games

Demonstrably false.
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I'd honestly buy it to support the series but I can't, because digital and NA only, there is literally nothing I can do to support the series at this point
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>>344135581
its coming out digital only in EU as well
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I wanted to buy the game to support the series but it has been already ruined by DLC, digital only, exclusive jap games, etc.
Honestly don't give a shit anymore. Series will never be as good as the trilogy ever again.
Doesn't help that DD was mediocre as fuck
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>>344135718
Did they say that?
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>>344135193
>I have a moral right as a consumer who is protecting my consumer right,

Your consumer right begins and ends with the purchase or non purchase of a product.

If you don't like what they're doing, you can take your business elsewhere. It doesn't extend to piracy.
There is zero moral justification for piracy.
If you were ACTUALLY about protecting your consumer rights, and Capcom did something you disagreed with, you would cease any and all interaction with them, including playing their games in any form. The moment you insist on playing a game they created, you cede the fact that they made something that appealed to you as a consumer, and at that point, you've utterly lost any argument you had.

If you like it, buy it, play it.
If you don't like it, don't buy it, don't play it.

It's that simple.
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>>344135916
What if I like the developers and hate the company, faggotron?

I want to play their product but I don't want to support the cancerous suits they've got as bosses.
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>>344135858
>muh trilogy
The first games are overrated as fuck.
Godot and Dahlia are shit characters and JFA has no redeeming qualities beyond Francisca and Pearls.
1st game is pretty good though.
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>>344135916
hmm, I guess you're right but still, Nintendo has cucked me out of $170 and I will never support them again
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>>344135916
They didn't care to give me DGS, so why should I care about giving them money?
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>>344136026
You, as a consumer, don't get to make that distinction, because, like it or hate it, ultimately it was the "cancerous suits" who made the game possible to begin with.

And, even if you could, how the FUCK is piracy supposed to support anyone?
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>>344136171
the only good game post AA3 has been AAI2.
Honestly I don't see what the appeal of this franchise is anymore. They've run out of ideas and they just come up with whatever fanfiction they want.
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>>344134823
You're a moron. It's about numbers and Capcom is a numbers company. Games take money to make, they have a budget. If the sales do not meet or exceed a target then they hesitate to or won't make a sequel. Making a packaged version costs game companies a lot more than digital only. There's a lot more to it than money too. CEE and CUSA have to approve the package designs which takes time and money. They have to come up with their own designs because despite all 3 companies having the same name (Capcom), CUSA and CEE get no art assets or help from Capcom Japan. They get the game and that's it. AA is just too niche of a game.

Not to mention Japanese game companies make a lot of money by selling overpriced LE versions of games with a bunch of bullshit fluff products thrown in. Those aren't as popular in the west.
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>>344136223
Easy. I don't support their business model = I don't support the company. Simple as that.

If AA was in the hands of a better company, I'd gladly buy the games.
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>>344136384
The crossover game with Layton is fun.
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>>344136456
>Aksys can publish Zero Escape and release physical copies on two platforms
>somehow this is an impossible task for a multi-million dollar company as Capcom

Sounds like they're minimizing effort and maximizing profit with shit being digital only. Understandable, they're a business, and want money, but if getting more money also means fucking fans over and making them upset, then I won't bother licking their balls and just accept whatever they shit down my throat
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>>344136384
Crazy
AAI2>PW>T&T>AJ>AAI>>>JFA
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>>344136685
2-4 was better than anything in AA4 or AAI, sorry.
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>>344136861
One case doesn't save the game itself, especially when you have to go the shit cases since the best case is the last case
sorry
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so we got maya back
now when do we get Ema Skye:Investigations?
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>>344136671
There a multi-million dollar company that has other big budget games. They sell, they get physical versions.

AA5 sold around 600,000 copies WW. Fucking fans over would be not localizing the game and keeping it Japan-only.

Digital only means you still get the game because it actually costs a lot of money to not only localize the game but to implement the localization into games.
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>>344137093
2-2 was also good, though, and 2-1 was a perfect tutorial-tier case. It was so stupid that Phoenix even beat it with amnesia.
And hating 2-3 is a shitty meme this fandom has forced in your head. JFA was still a higher quality game than bland games like AJ or literal snoozefests like AAI
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turbolesbian prosecutor/investigator lana pls come back
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If the game isnt coming to PC why should I even care? You can port 999 and ZTD but not Ace Attourney? Go fuck yourself Nintendo honestly

It's like you're allergic to my money
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>>344137236
>2-3 is a meme
the entire case is bad
your favorite game is bad
and the last case isnt even THAT good
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>>344136861
2-4 is overrated garbage.
It's the worst end case in the entire series and the only reason anybody thinks its good is because it comes after 2-3, the worst case period in the whole series, and is better by comparison.
It drags on way too long with bad investigation sequences, out of the new characters,THREE are reused characters with one of them being fucking Old Bag and another being Lotta for the second time in the same game, has no Maya with you for the bantz, has awful melodrama, and the client being guilty was obvious from a mile away and he's not threatening in the slightest.
AA4-4 has far better pacing with more fresh ideas and AAI-5 is more interesting with better characters and ties things together really well even if it does drag on.
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>>344137458
>2-4 was shit because Oldbag

>but I-5 had good characters like Oldbag, Larry and HUBJECKSHUN

4-4 pacing is also a fucking mess. The 2nd day trial is literally one testimony and then the game ends.
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I want to like this game because I loved the older installments, but with DD and PLvsAA disappointing me greatly, I dont think I want to anymore. If its good, I'll wait for a price drop.


If it comes to Grandpa Wright, then thats a different story. Digital or not, I'll cave in.
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>>344137608
*MASSIVE price drop
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>>344137590
4-4's protag is naruhobo anyways
fuckboy sharphairs is just the replacement that acts for a few testimonies
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Is it weird that I find Phoenix to be more handsome than he was in previous games?
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>>344137236
>hating 2-3 is a shitty meme this fandom has forced in your head
It's shit because of the awful characters, awful setting, awful motive from the criminal, and overall boring. You can spew out your bullshit that hating it is a "meme" all you want, it doesn't change the fact that the case is utter shit. Also, the perfect tutorial case would be 3-1 if anything
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>>344137730
See? You're just spewing the same regurgitated meme "arguments" this fandom has done for the past years.
How about you get an actual opinion on your own instead of just going with what everyone says?
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so when are we getting ginger lesbian pseudoscientist moon girl as a protag
considering capcoms shitty business practise, she's coming soon
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>>344137590
I-5 had oldbag for one single part and she's mostly there just to fuck with Larry.
In 2-4 she's there the whole time requiring multiple interactions and she's a witness with multiple testimonies.

And 4-4 pacing being a mess is an outright lie. It's split into perfect segments that get right to the point. The second day having just a single testimony is amazing. It's nice to finally get a game where the protag says fuck this shit and just goes in guns blazing to take the villain down instead of dicking around for hours baby stepping the way there as the characters struggling figure out the most obvious stuff the player has already deduced.

One of the worst things about AA is that they insist on having 4-5 giant trials that take fucking forever leading the player in circles just to waste time. If there's anything the original game are guilty of, it's not respecting the players time and adding bad tangents to pad gameplay hours.
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>>344137871
but its like saying
>I THINK THE MOON ROTATES AROUND MARS BECAUSE THATS NOT WHAT EVERYONE THINKS
the case is shit
the motive is shit
the culprit fucks up at being a culprit
investigation is shit
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>>344137725
Youre still not tired of him?
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>>344137458
>and ties things together
And this is the problem
AAI story is a fucking who cares.
Really, who fucking cares about AAI story?
I-5 just had me going "when am I going to finish this fucking boring game already?"
It should have ended halfway there, but it just kept going with this villain I'm supposed to give a shit about.
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>>344138031
>I-5 had oldbag for one single part
So you didn't play the game.

> It's split into perfect segments that get right to the point
Everything was smooth until Vera collapsed.
Phoenix trial was drawn out, and the MASON investigation segment was a bunch of padding.
2nd day trial was fucking anticlimatic and there was no actual fight or struggle to take down the villain. It was a shitty ending that just made you go "eh"
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>>344137871
>Everybody has the same opinion about this one subject so it must be a meme
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>>344138512
let me guess, you also think 4-3 is a shitty case and you formed that opinion on your own.

>y-yeah, it was always shit ever since I played it for the first time

Sure was, bud
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i used up all my autism power for this shit, maybe i'll make a custom case for it

-The Scientific Turnabout-
Attorney:Apollo Justice-Athena Cykes
Prosecutor:doesn't really matter
In charge of the investigation: Ema Skye, also a witness.
Assistant: Celcius Kelvin, a high school student, who worked as the victim's understudy. Age 16, Male.
Victim: Albert O. Stone, Professor, Age, 49, Worked as Kelvin's mentor, poisoned in his office, traces of hydrogenchloride and water was found in his lungs after the autopsy.
Suspect: Neill B. Oar, age 23, rookie research assistant, infamous for his carelessness.
Witness 2: Maxim Planker, age 30, veteran scientist with a lot of experience, aspires to be the research director, who happened to be Albert O. Stone.

so, any ideas-tweaks, new character ideas?
i have an AQ of 30
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>>344139016
>>>/vg/aog

If that shit still exists
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>>344138636
Not him, but I did play 4-3 long before I had anyone to talk with about AA.

I remember not liking it.
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>>344138636
I actually thought the whole case was "meh". There are some parts I liked about it and some parts that I didn't like. Apollo starting to come into his own as a lawyer and pointing things out without needing any help during some parts of the case was pretty nice, but the case started to drag on and on. I also wondered why we couldn't just rewind and play the video and point out contridictions similar to the video in Rise from the Ashes, it would've saved the trouble of having to watch the whole video unable to skip it.

There, is that what you want to hear anon?
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>>344129750
I feel like I'm the only one who felt no excitement upon the news of this one breaking. AA5 felt like "Alright, I think I'm good now". For this, I kind of don't even care anymore.
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>>344136384
There's still some great cases here and there. For example, the DLC case of DD is fucking great.
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>>344137115
>We will never get Ace Attorney Investigations: Ema Syke
>We will never get Great Witch Eve's Magical Adventure
Fucking Capcom
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>>344129750
> If you had the option, would you buy it if there was a physical version available?

No because why buy when I can pirate.
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>>344138058
No, I'm tired of Apollo
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>>344129750
you need an option for "only if there was a special edition" because that's generally the only thing that makes me go physical these days
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