AM2R releases August 6th
http://metroid2remake.blogspot.com/
Who cares?
>>344089049
You know what to do Nintenbros.
It's time to end this once and for all.
>>344089049
Yes finally, can't wait. Been waiting for what seems like three years.
Finally a date for the inevitable cease & desist letter.
FINALLY, A WORTHY SUCCESSOR TO ZERO MISSION.
DUMPING TUBES IN CELEBRATION
>>344092248
>>344092248
What the fuck is the purpose of this meme
>>344092506
PLAY THE GAMES
>>344089049
Will it though? I've been waiting for it to be finished forever now
>>344092697
>>344092827
>>344092947
>>344093102
>>344089049
I'm excited.That's my birthday.
>>344093201
>>344092506
primefag autism
can we have a real metroid thread without haloid autists sperging out?
>>344093304
Funny how it's called "Another Metroid 2 Remake" when years later it will be remembered as the best one. I think AM2R stands for Amazing Metroid 2 Remake.
>>344093391
It's either this or PORN
POOOOOORN
TUBES ARE BETTER
![fdbN4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3xzZrTv.jpg "fdbN4[1].jpg")
>>344089892
>>344091763
if you wretched faggots really ruin this I hope someone hunts you down.
>>344093102
classic
>>344093534
>Derivative fan game comes out the same month as the next real thing
>Discussion of Feds BTFOs this faggot once and for all
>Nintendo announces a real Metroid II remake afterwards, just to rub salt in the wound
Can't wait.
>>344093593
>hunts
>HUNTER
>>344093758
>>344093752
People will still enjoy AM2R
Also Federation Force is pretty much taboo.
If a person wants to discuss about the good aspects that person is going to be called a shill and be ignored.
>>344093856
>>344089049
So how long before the C&D order comes down from Nintendo? I'm willing to bet by the end of next week.
>>344093752
this is why everyone calls you primefags. get AIDS, literally get AIDS and die from it you piece of autistic shit.
>>344093953
Either way a torrent will pop up.
>>344093953
SHUSH
>>344092506
Fun. Remember when things used to be fun around here?
Of course you don't, you're too young.
>>344094019
DON'T BE RUDE
>>344094069
FUUUUUUUN!
>>344094161
>>344094264
>>344094376
>>344094494
Why do you expect redditors and goons to be self-aware?
>>344094494
;_;
>>344094494
ALL ME
>>344094494
Whatever homo
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>>344094889
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>>344095171
>>344095273
>>344095385
>>344094494
>implying spamming cuck and :^) over and over again is in any way above this
Despite what it may seem like, /v/ is for video game discussions, and in the case of Metroid, there's not much in the way of shitting on it outside of Other M and how amazingly stupid it was.
I'd much rather have a comfy as hell threat to relive the old memories of the general-infested /v/ that was somehow better than the shit-stain post ironica nonsense that we ended up steeping ourselves into to reach an all time embarrassing low.
stupid thread, kill yourselves haloidshitters
aw man, I just deleted my tubes folder earlier this year. I figured I didn't need it anymore since we only ever had threads about how games are shit now instead of doing fun shit.
>>344095501
IGNOOOOOOOOOORE
>>344095501
this isn't a discussion at all it's a bunch of autists spamming a stupid meme comic that isn't funny, I don't see ANY discussion now fuck off primefag and go back to fucking r*ddit.
>>344089892
i know it is bait, but in the current situation of Shitendo im legit scared that this got cancelled or sued
>>344095595
Does anyone have the Phazon is incredibly dangerous tubes comic?
>>344095501
>discussion
Yeah because image spam sure is great discussion. Were you born autistic or just raised that way?
>>344089049
Great to hear it's almost complete. I donated $15 when I first got the demo and promised I'd give another $25 once it's finished. AM2R is Metroid done right.
>>344095739
>>344095832
>>344095923
>>344093391
I find it funny how we never really have a long nice thread when it's about the 2D games but somehow we always seem to have 400-500 post in a thread about Zero Suit or Prime. I will be glad when we can actually talk more about the 2D games and their lore for once.
>>344096018
great vidya DISCUSSION haloid babbys, keep proving people right that you are the worst fanbase on this board.
>>344095832
>there is more than one
Woah. I'm talking about the one that compares how phazon is super dangerous and how metroids mutate and then in the final frame everything is in flames.
>>344096091
WHO DO YOU think was that dead soldier man in Super Metroid?
>>344096219
DON'T HAVE IT
>>344095628
>hurr durr dis comic isn't funny because I'm too autistic to enjoy things!
>>344096336
Oh well, thanks anyway anon.
>>344096336
>>344096364
nice deflecting autist
>>344096235
Could have been a GF Marine, I remember the Federation were doing research and excavating Planet Zebes until the Space Pirates took the planet back.
>>344089049
Nintendo C/D releases July 8th
>>344096364
It's not funny because there's no joke. Sorry you're such a meme lover though.
>>344096439
THIS IS THE LAST ONE!
>>344096506
so what if there's no discussion going on? I'd rather have a comic dump thread than a thread full of people calling each other cucks for liking different games.
>>344093953
With how close it is to completion do you really thing he'd drop it right there? He'll release a dl LINK ON gbaTEMPS or other site.
>>344096219
MUTATES AND KILLS MILLIONS
DELICIOUS CANDY
He never should have put up a release date. Why do people do this? Just secretly and quietly release it then there's nothing Nintendo could do.
>>344096160
At least it's not a Zero Suit dump
>>344096609
The joke is that the space pirates keep building their bases in ways that allow Samus to easily infiltrate, and that they do stupid shit with science that always gets them killed.
Sorry you have no sense of humor. I guess being an edgy teen kind of prevents you from enjoying things, huh?
>>344096643
So because you're so easily triggered you can't handle people with different opinions and so need a safe space to spam comics older than you are. Understood, but if you're so sensitive then there are other sites such as reddit that you might like and would definitely fit in better.
>>344096219
I got u senpai
>>344096763
No, it's just that I'm not a mouthbreathing underage spic who's just discovered these for the first time. The joke's worn thin, or do you want to post some hella fuggin ebin rage faces since those have jokes too?
>>344096781
>comics older than you are
Oh ho ho, boyo, you really have no idea what you're talking about. This is great, keep going. Keep telling me how underage I am, it's really entertaining.
can we seriously ban tubeshit
>>344096885
>if you enjoy things you're a kid who is just seeing them for the first time
Buddy, I have been here since long before these comics were a thing. These kinds of things used to be quite common around here. I know your version of /v/ is just "everything is shit, everyone is a cuck", but back in the day we used to actually come here to have a good time.
>>344094889
This one is my fav.
>>344096925
>>344097060
Truth hurts, doesn't it? Let me guess, you're a butthurt new sincerity 80scuck who doesn't understand that being underageb& is just as much a mentality as it is an age, just like how you don't have to be black to be a nigger.
Just look at how triggered you are in >>344097060
Again, if you want an argument free containment board then you can go find a safe space back on reddit. You don't seem to understand that you've become the problem here and nobody wants you.
>>344096624
I MADE OC!
OOOOOOOOCCCC!!!!!!!!!!
>>344097242
Keep it coming, kiddo. I'm just picturing you sitting at your computer seething like the child you are over the fact that someone likes something you don't. It's pretty funny.
I'd rather have tube comics forever than LEL REMODEL YOUR SHITHOLE porn threads.
>>344097459
I could swear one picture like this existed already.
>ITT three primefags circlejerk each other and everyone calls them out repeatedly for being a shitfanbase who do nothing but shitpost and add nothing to any metroid discussion
>>344097676
Prime > classic
deal w/it
>>344093953
Because a lot of people were looking forward to it this whole time and it generates hype.
>>344097554
PROBABLY
>26 posters
christ, i'll see you guys who care about the game in the next threads, i'm sure we'll get a good one eventually
This back-and-forth encapsulates everything about 4chan, surely we must find a way to contain and produce it for our efforts to conquer the galaxies.
>>344097901
Why did you kill him /v/?
>>344097812
underage
>>344098030
Sounds like something the Space Pirates would try.
>>344098049
>In my way
>>344098030
>>344098173
Time to inject 4chan with phazon
So in Zero Mission I noticed that Samus Zero Suit has emitters on her upper back that allow her manifest her suit. Samus when she just wears her top and bottom always seems to cover her upper back. Does anyone thinks that is where Samus cybernetics are located?
What did you guys think of the Zero Mission run at SGDQ? I never realized how well designed that game was, so many passages I didnt know about.
>>344098070
30, actually. Prime > classic
>>344097812
Not that guy but fuck off. 2D games will always better than Prime games and that's a fact.
>>344098450
got a link?
I'm interested now
>>344094494
>tubes
>not funny
Sasuga modern /v/.
>>344098450
zero mission is fucking awesome and I love that they intended the game to be sequence broken
prime had some really cool sequence breaks but they patched them all out in trilogy because nofunallowed
>>344094494
>"I go to vee and im a nihilist and no games are fun and we're known for being no fun allowed and im following the hivemind, am I cool yet guys?"
oh my sweet summer child. whats wrong with a little fun?
>>344098685
I dont think it's been uploaded yet, it was today after all. They're still stuck uploading all the Castlekino videos back at the SGDQ youtube channel.
>>344098556
34 here, classic > halo reskin
>primecucks want AM2R to fail and get C/D
no bigger disease on this board.
Goddamn it's about time.
>>344093953
>>344096528
This is what I'm worried about.
You know nintendo has a stick up their ass when it comes to suing their properties, especially when the quality of it shits on something they're doing.
Say for example, federation shit coming out two weeks later and NOBODY likes it.
Add that they haven't a 2d metroid game in over a decade and FF is coming out on a dying platform that was never popular to begin with, ther will probably be more people playing am2r.
Better believe miyamoto is gonna pop a blood vessel if that comes to pass.
>>344099185
Primefags hate Federation Force
It's only pure Nintendrones who actually like it
>>344099059
If you think the Prime games are Halo reskins then you've clearly never played either Prime or Halo.
>>344099059
500 here, even thought I think Prime 1 is best metroid I cant say one style is better than the other.
>>344099215
Miyamoto dug his own grave when he decided to push the FPS angle to appeal to western CoD faggots with an established franchise.
>>344092506
>purpose
>of memes
oh shit waddup
>>344099587
Looking at Xbone's Recore really makes me wish they would have went with third person like Mario and Zelda.
I've actually grown bored with Metroid pretty much. The survival aspects are weak, the platforming is basic, the sense of discovery is mild, the enemies are dopey, and the most sophisticated aspects, like customization in how you actually play, and different ways to move through the mazes, are very rarely put to good use. I feel like so much of what I used to love about Metroid was actually pretty mindless (ME GET ITEM ME OPEN DOOR WITH THAT ITEM). It's honestly irritating and I think the only cure is a new Metroid that actually uses a very open-ended type of gameplay where the experience really varies depending upon how you collect, fight, and explore.
>>344089049
I can't believe it's been over 8 fucking years. I was waiting for AM2R when I was still in highschool.
Excited to finally play it through to the end. The last demo release was some of the most fun I've had with any 2D Metroidvania, the time and effort really paid off.
It releasing the same month as Federation Force is fucking hilarious though.
Reminder.
>>344100687
yes thanks for reminding us you are so autistic and mad you had to make that image to copy/paste in threads that make you buttblasted.
>>344098447
Honestly I bet if my comment here was asking about something in Prime or about Samus's body in a porn way I would receive replies. But since it's related to the 2D lore, it's completely ignored.
>>344097459
Very nice, anon. Keep up the good work.
>>344089049
HE DUN FUCKED UP!
WHY MUST THEY ANNOUNCE RELEASE DATES, AND NOT JUST RANDOMLY DUMP TO AVOID THE C&D LETTERS!?!
Seriously, these faggots never learn anything, and then wonder why their fan projects are killed.I want to see what he does with the Queen fight
>>344101213
>>WHY MUST THEY ANNOUNCE RELEASE DATES
Because this has been ten years of his life and probably wants to celebrate its finish.
He'll probably dump the game somewhere regardless of a C&D anyway.
>I want to see what he does with the Queen fight
I'm excited for this too.
All the bosses he's added to the game are great.
>>344089049
>Have only played the first demo and stayed in the dark until now waiting for release
On the 6th this is all i'll be playing
>>344101213
He's been open about it for years, if they were going to stop him they would have already done it.
>>344102030
Nintendo seems pretty hands off with the Metroid community anyway. It's had huge hacking and fangame scenes for years.
If its not Smash, Pokemon, Mario or Zelda they don't give a shit.
>>344102354
You can add Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing to that list now
Star Fox might be on. Xenoblade could be too
Earthbound, F-Zero, and Metroid are dead and Nintendo doesn't care about them except ever again
>>344102608
Are you saying there are Animal Crossing fan hacks I could be playing?
>>344102608
Metroid not dead but Prime is pretty much on its way out since Federation Force is gonna bomb hard.
>>344102720
No I meant that Animal Crossing is something Nintendo still markets or makes things for
>>344102923
Metroid hasn't had a mainline game since 2004
I mean with the mainline gameplay
I liked Prime 1 and 2
Couldn't stand 3
>>344095273
got a chuckle out of me
>>344103102
1. I hate the piece of shit but Metroid: Other M was considered a mainline game released in 2010. 2. Doesn't matter what you like only thing that matters for Nintendo is that their franchises don't bomb miserably, as it stands now Federation Force may sell worse than Code Name Steam. Prime is either getting put on hiatus or Nintendo is getting their shotgun and bringing Prime out back. Over the years they have been doing more promotion for the Metroid franchise over the Prime franchise, what makes you think they won't get rid of Prime in a heart beat so they could just have one Metroid series to focus on?
>>344102923
prime dying is a good thing though.
>>344103738
I agree
>>344103675
>Over the years they have been doing more promotion for the Metroid franchise over the Prime franchise
How?
Smash had an obsession with Super Metroid for the longest time since it's so weird about the Metroid franchise but Nintendo's promo material for the series has always just used the most recent games and renders. For the past few years it's been Other M because it's the newest material they have on hand.
If anything it seems like the higher ups at Nintendo have more interest in doing another big budget 3D game than a 2D game, since they have lots of Platformers that sell better but nothing as far as the First Person Shooter genre is concerned.
>>344103102
3 pisses me the fuck off. If you're gonna turn Metroid into basically Halo, you could at least give a good effort as far as designing encounters with enemy hordes. In Halo, you gotta think about where you hide, which weapon you use, and even about the physics of the landscape. In Prime 3, you go down lifeless hallways with a few pests to easily kill, up until the next rote puzzle. The bosses are actually good though.
How about you casual pussies just play the original Metroid II?
>>344104125
And after Fed Force bombs what makes you think they would go in for round 2? Tanabe came stated before that he didn't have the resources for another Prime game and just made some hypothesis the game would take three years to make for the NX IF he had a team and resources. While Sakamoto is now a Deputy Manager at EPD and has far more resources than he ever did to make a classic Metroid game.
>>344104269
I liked 3. it wasnt as interconnectedly mysterious or fun as 1 or 2, but it was still good, and the spaceship thing was an appreciated gimmick. The abandoned ship was spooky as fuck.
And Skytown was great
>>344089049
>AM2R
>ASMR
>Samus whispers sexy nothings into your ear all game
Shut up and take my money
>>344101616
I can't believe iv'e been following this that long.
>>344104587
I love the first three games and I like Fusion, I hope Nintendo finally makes a sequel to that game.
>>344104587
Did you play Zero Mission? That shit is so much better than the original. This is like Zero Mission 2. Made with pure fan love.
>>344104587
I've finished it several times but it was in need of a remake.
>>344104587
One of my first games
>>344104916
>Did you play Zero Mission? That shit is so much better than the original.
I have, and it isn't. Zero Mission fucks up everything that was good about the original game.
>>344104932
>it was in need of a remake.
No it wasn't.
>If you're gonna turn Metroid into basically Halo
How was Corruption anything like Halo besides introducing voice acting and throwing in the military for the Norion segment?
If anything it's like a 3D take on Fusion's gameplay with a less embarrassing plot and no horror elements.
>>344104690
And Sakamoto's department has been doing stuff like WarioWare, Rhythm Heaven and more importantly Tomodachi Life. Why would they have him go back and make another Metroid when the stuff he's currently doing is getting better reception and selling more?
Metroid's going to be throwaway spinoff territory for a while until Retro Studios is done with whatever their current series is and Miyamoto drags them back into Metroid. Nintendo hasn't had interest in 2D Metroid since they finally made handhelds capable of doing 3D, it's not going back.
>>344104805
Kek
>>344105087
>Zero Mission fucks up everything that was good about the original game.
Okay dude.
>>344105087
>original game.
>Good
>>344105087
Alright, hotshot, as someone who has played neither the original nor Zero Mission, tell me why I should play the original over Zero Mission.
>>344105087
>Zero Mission fucks up everything that was good about the original game.
Zero Mission has more content, better presentation, is more accessible, is more challenging and offers way more sequence breaking.
Shitty stealth mission at the end aside it's an all around improvement.
>>344089892
Play it like no tomorrow?
Because that's what I'll do.
>>344093953
Why Nintendo can't do like what Valve did with Half Life: Black Mesa?
>>344105551
Japanese honor
>>344105413
Well, no, you can and should try both. The problem is he thinks ZM is outright better and that there is no value in a fan remake of M2. Which is silly and fanboyish of him.
>>344093953
They haven't done it yet
I bet he can fly under the radar for another month
New video?
>>344105749
*he thinks ZM is outright worse
>>344105413
The lack of a map means the lack of handholding. The game fully allows you to get lost, which is the point of the game. Unlike Zero Mission, Metroid disorients you and has a spooky atmosphere, Zero Mission looks like a cartoon in comparison. Metroid poses an actual challenge since it demands you learn how to play and learn how to survive.
>>344105497
>Zero Mission has more content
More content does not necessarily mean better content. Zero Mission has worse content.
>better presentation
Fuck no.
>is more accessible
This is true, but Metroid should not be a series for casuals.
>is more challenging
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>and offers way more sequence breaking.
Metroid allows you to go anywhere with just five missiles, the morph ball, and morph bombs. No Metroid game is more non-linear or open.
>>344105938
>>better presentation
>Fuck no.
>>344105341
>that futa samus
unf
>>344105264
1. Sakamoto team back when it was SPD where Sakamoto worked under Iwata, his team was small but now since SPD merged with EAD under Takahashi his team is large. Takahashi himself said they had plans for a traditional game you have to remember the Wii U failed. Nintendo is getting ready to replace both the Wii U and 3DS all of their future projects got moved to the NX. After such a long hiatus do you still think Nintendo is not working on a mainline Metroid game for the NX? Also who says the game is 2D pixelated game, could be a 2.5D game. 2. After doing three Prime games and a re-release don't you think Retro would work on something other than Prime all the time?
>>344102354
they let all kinds of mario and zelda and pokemon fan games all the time
>>344105938
>better presentation
>Fuck no.
I could maybe give you the other points, but this is just moronic
>>344105938
You tell them dude, original Metroid forever.
>>344106218
But the best get shut down.
For example, Super Mario Bros X got C&D as well as a really good Pokemon fangame recently.
>>344089049
>mfw I've been replaying metroid ii and now this
>>344094019
Dude, not even Primefags want Fed Force....
>>344106049
>>344106219
Zero Mission has no atmosphere. All of the colors are vibrant and nothing poses a threat. The cutscenes interrupt the flow of the game.
The presentation of the game is bad for a series built around isolated exploration. You don't feel like you're alone on a hostile planet, you feel like you're taking a jog through the park on a sunny day.
>>344089049
FUCK YES
YEEEEEEEEEES
THANK YOU BASED DEV
I waited so long for this, i thought it was a dead project
>>344105938
>More content does not necessarily mean better content. Zero Mission has worse content.
Metroid 1 has three piss easy boss battles and the smallest handful of items in the entire series.
Zero Missions new content is a much welcome addition. It actually has satisfying combat and controls now with a large array of bosses, for one.
>Fuck no.
You're a mad man.
Metroid 1 is one of the ugliest games on the NES. Zero Missions comic style isn't my favorite art direction in the series but it looks miles better than the original game ever did.
This isn't even a tech thing, I'd argue Kirby's Adventure has better presentation than Nightmare in Dreamland and those games are on the same respective systems. Metroid 1 is just an awful looking game.
>but Metroid should not be a series for casuals.
Who fucking cares?
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Metroid 1 is not a hard game by any stretch of the imagination, and the speedbooster puzzles are some of the toughest challenges in the entire classic Metroid series. Going for 100% in Metroid 1 is way simpler than going for 100% in Zero Mission.
I have no idea why people call Metroid 1 challenging and unforgiving. The map is small as hell and separated into 4 distinct, easy to navigate areas. You can get anywhere in the game by using the same 3 or so vertical rooms, and all the sub-areas branching off of them are straight corridors. It's almost impossible to get lost in it, and it's not like there's any worthwhile gunplay or bosses to add to the difficulty. I guess if you're using passwords a lot you'll do a lot of health grinding since you always start the game at 20 hp, but that's not difficulty. That's time consumption.
I'm not praising Zero Mission as particularly challenging. I'm calling out Metroid 1 on being one of the easiest games in the series.
>Metroid allows you to go anywhere
The only has two checkpoints and then the final boss. You can go anywhere because there's to places to go.
>>344106536
Don't forget the they changed Samus top and bottom to the Zero Suit, changed what Mother Brain's lair looks like, gave Samus her kick climb and shinespark abilities when in canon Samus learned these moves from the animals in Super Metroid, and combined the high jump boots with the jump ball upgrade.
>>344102354
As long as it doesn't get a big article on Kotaku or directly threaten a new project they won't do anything. They're really anal about youtube but they don't usually bother with anything else. There were some cases where a guy was issuing fake C&Ds under the name of a former Nintendo employee, it probably scared a lot of people into quitting, but it wasn't Nintendo.
Mario was mostly left alone until Super Mario Maker. Super Mario Crossover is the entire first game and lost levels and is still up.
The Zelda rom hackers are notoriously flaky and they tend to say they were C&D as an excuse, rather than actually getting a C&D. Zelda Classic is really old at this point, and it's still going.
Pokemon Showdown is still alive, that should say a lot about Pokemon.
I don't think they've ever bother the Super Metroid or Fire Emblem hacking communities.
They hate melee because it detracts from their newer games, and that's not even a fan game. Project M devs shit their pants when they realized they could get sued for a ton of money, if someone actually was threatening them it wasn't Nintendo. As far as I know no one has really been bothered other than the earliest brawl texture mods.
>>344094019
Primefags didn't ask for this shit. That was pure bait.
>>344105341
need sauce on that futa samus
>>344106991
>Metroid 1 has three piss easy boss battles
Kraid in Metroid 1 poses more of a threat than any boss in Zero Mission. Mother Brain herself is an easy boss, but Zero Mission ruins the absolute sublime brilliance that was her boss battle in the original game.
>and the smallest handful of items in the entire series.
And each one aside from the high jump boots and Varia suit changes the context of how you play the game.
>Metroid 1 is one of the ugliest games on the NES.
I think Metroid's limited tileset is used to much greater effect than all of Zero Mission. There is a deliberate reason why Metroid looks the way it does.
>Who fucking cares?
I care, because Metroid was a game for the older kids and adults, not the younger kids. It was a game that you poured MONTHS into and demanded thoughtful, intelligent play. If you want to speedrun the game to get Samus in a bikini, you NEED to be able to survive.
>Metroid 1 is not a hard game by any stretch of the imagination
It puts up more of a fight than Zero Mission.
>and the speedbooster puzzles are some of the toughest challenges in the entire classic Metroid series.
The Speed Booster doesn't exist in the original Metroid.
>The map is small as hell and separated into 4 distinct, easy to navigate areas. You can get anywhere in the game by using the same 3 or so vertical rooms, and all the sub-areas branching off of them are straight corridors. It's almost impossible to get lost in it
Ah, I've spotted someone that's only ever played the game with a map in front of them. It all makes sense now.
(1/2)
>>344106991
>>344108271
(2/2)
>The only has two checkpoints and then the final boss. You can go anywhere because there's to places to go.
Metroid allows you to go anywhere in the world with a very minimal set of tools. You don't need to exploit any bugs or know any fancy tricks to get there. A beginner player can go from Brinstar to Ridley through normal gameplay. A beginner player to Zero Mission cannot go from Brinstar to Chozodia through normal gameplay.
>>344108271
>>344108384
autism
>>344108271
>>344108384
And this is why I will always love the original Metroid.
>>344108271
Not that anon, but another anon who enjoys both Metroid NES and Zero Mission.
>Kraid in Metroid 1 poses more of a threat than any boss in Zero Mission
You kidding, right?
Morphing into a ball and spam him bombs until he dies, while you pray that your energy tanks doesn't get empty isn't what I call challenge.
If you want a real challenge you might try Metroid Zero Missio Hard 10% challenge.
>There is a deliberate reason why Metroid looks the way it does.
It's monotonous a la Legend of Zelda and it's easy to get lost, but it still impresses me how they could make such a vast world with just 512KB.
>If you want to speedrun the game to get Samus in a bikini, you NEED to be able to survive.
Nicest feeling ever.
>It puts up more of a fight than Zero Mission.
See above.
>Metroid allows you to go anywhere in the world with a very minimal set of tools.
But you cannot argue there are practical reasons that respawning is a pain. It's not nice to respawn in the butt of the world with 30 HP. And you're forced to farm.
And God have mercy on you if you run out of missiles. Foes in Ridley area take about 15 shots to be destroyed, and that's to drop you 2 missiles or 5 HP.
On the other hand, it's the most satisfactory feeling when you find an energy tank while exploring. In Metroid NES it's basically like finding an oasis in a desert.
>>344108271
>Kraid in Metroid 1 poses more of a threat than any boss in Zero Mission
Kraid in Zero Mission is harder than Kraid in Metroid 1.
>And each one aside from the high jump boots and Varia suit changes the context of how you play the game.
Same is said for every Metroid game either, Zero Mission included.
>There is a deliberate reason why Metroid looks the way it does.
And it's not effective.
Metroid 2 was the game that really amped up Metroids sense of isolation and creature design, and where it laid the groundwork for later installments.
>I care, because Metroid was a game for the older kids and adults
The 2D Metroids have only continued to increase the skill ceiling of the game while also giving optional hints and more fluid control schemes to make them easy to pick up. It's simultaneously appeasing both audiences.
That's a good thing.
>The Speed Booster doesn't exist in the original Metroid.
That part was in reference to all the endgame shinespark shit in Zero Mission. Sorry for the poor wording, I was short on characters.
>Ah, I've spotted someone that's only ever played the game with a map in front of them.
I fucking drew my own map while playing a physical copy of the game. Cut the bullshit.
Didn't even need to use the damn thing either. Metroid 1's world design was fucking impressive at the time but its map is designed in blocks connected by shafts and funnels. It's easy to commit to memory, I never felt the need to ask for a mini map in it like I felt the need for in Metroid 2.
>A beginner player can go from Brinstar to Ridley through normal gameplay.
And they can still do this in Zero Mission. You don't need infinite bomb jumping either, even though it gives you the tools to get there in more advanced ways. It's crazy.
>A beginner player to Zero Mission cannot go from Brinstar to Chozodia through normal gameplay.
I thought you didn't want it to appeal to casuals.
I actually do like Metroid 1 too but your opinions are so alien to me.
>>344108628
replying to yourself isn't going to make it more credible.
>>344109418
About missiles and hp, to be fair the japanese version has a save feature and saves your energy and missile count.
They took this out for the other regions for some fucking reason and is the main reason you have to farm hp and missiles.
They could have at least started you at full energy and missiles when you load with a code.
Starting at 30 energy and no missiles and having to farm them every time you use a code is beyond tedious.
>>344089892
You're memeing, but Nintendrones would literally defend them if they did that, especially if it happened to Mother 4.
>>344106432
If i remember correctly, super mario bros x was trying to make money. And I recall a pokemon recently tried a similar thing.
>>344109748
>Kraid in Zero Mission is harder than Kraid in Metroid 1.
Not really. Zero Mission's Kraid is the same easy Kraid fight as Super Metroid's only you're shooting from the right side of the room instead of the left. Shoot his face, shoot his throat, repeat. Kraid in Metroid 1 was a lot harder to hit since he'd change his spikes depending on which side of him you were on and he threw more.
>Same is said for every Metroid game either, Zero Mission included.
Super Missiles and Power Bombs added nothing worthwhile to the series. They were just different keys to unlock different locks.
>And it's not effective.
It's very effective. The similar-looking rooms and simple graphics make for a disorienting, spooky world that the music only enhances. The game communicates that you are not welcome on Zebes.
>It's simultaneously appeasing both audiences.
It is not. It is lowering the skill floor. I want to be able to go places I may not be ready for. I want to be allowed to die from mistakes. Newer Metroids do not allow that.
>Metroid 1's world design was fucking impressive at the time
We agree that context matters.
>its map is designed in blocks connected by shafts and funnels.
That is every 2D Metroid game. The difference with Metroid 1 is that the lack of an in-game map and the way the world is designed means it's POSSIBLE to get lost. You cannot get lost in Super Metroid or Zero Mission because the games have a set path they lead you along unless you know enough about the games to avoid that path, at which point you still won't be able to get lost.
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>>344111175
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>And they can still do this in Zero Mission.
No they can't. A beginner player will need the Power Grip and other power-ups just to get to lower Norfair.
>I thought you didn't want it to appeal to casuals.
Providing a world that's just as open to beginners as it is to experts is not appealing to casuals. The beginner player gets lost, the expert does not. Both are given the freedom to create their own unique experience playing the game.
That pure feedom is what separates Metroid from the rest of the series.
the best metroid game is prime
>>344099059
didn't metroid prime come out before halo?
>>344111504
It was revealed before halo but actually released after it.
>>344109982
Before you trying to make assumptions faggot, maybe next time you should learn that some people weren't very found of that remake.
Does Metroid Prime emulate well? I tried playing Collection once on my modded Wii and it wouldn't work
>>344113021
runs just a little slow and framey for me with dolphin, but I'm on a toaster
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>>344111293
Thank you, this is why I could never get into Zero Mission. Plus Sakamoto decided it was a great idea to start ignoring the canon that he written. I honestly think this series should stop with the prequels, remakes, and spinoffs because it's starting to get to crowded in the timeline and the annoying retcons like Cosmic year 2000 changing to Cosmic year 2003 is getting more and more aggravating.
>>344105938
>spooky atmosphere
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVTzg2kvNaQ
>bwoweeeep! every time you jump
>cheerful and bright color scheme
Just because it had shit art and no memory for background tiles or parallax doesn't make it "spooky"
Hype is what killed Project M, guys. Play it cool until it drops.
>>344114362
Kraid's Lair tho, that one was spookyand great.
>>344106536
And you definitely don't feel alone on a hostile planet in the original Metroid either, autist. The only Metroid games that have come close to that type of feeling are Super and Fusion, which are also the only games with any sense of tension.
The colors are also brighter and even more eye-bleedingly vibrant in the original.
>>344114846
>No isolation feeling in Metroid and Metroid II
Not that guy but this is what happens when your first metroid wasn't the original. Every 2D Metroid except for Zero Mission had atmosphere. Zero Mission didn't even have fake Kraid, something both Metroid and Super had.
These things have too much text in them.
