RECEIVE THY POUNDING
>>344060006
BY THE BUILDERS HAND!!
>>344060006
Why do the guards fight in such flamboyant ways?
>>344060605
They probably needed to make extremely exaggerated gestures for their primitive motion capture in order for them to be clearly understood by the player.
>>344060505
>the builder Himself will never smash your thiefsy boipucci
DANGEROUS CONDITIONS
DANGEROUS CONDITIONS
D A N G E R O U S C O N D I T I O N S
>>344060006
>>344060505
I SEE THEE THERE!
>>344061742
Gayest post I've ever read in a Thief thread, congratulations homo.
>tfw an actual recovered klepto
>tfw Thief 2 is the only stealth game I enjoy because the genius worldbuilding and stealth design is punctuated by sweet, sweet rummaging and petty theft
>play it 2-4 times a year
Does anyone know of any other stealing-oriented rummaging simulators? Failing that, what about some good fan campaigns? T2X was pretty legit except for the lead VA.
>>344060774
>this
>mocap
kek
Is that a thief I see before me?
G U A R D S
>>344062601
Aside from Thief 1, The Dark Mod.
>>344062692
I thought I read something about Thief using shitty mocap but now I can't find anything about it. Must've been thinking about something else. Either way, the animations were probably that way to distinguish angry guards from curious ones.
I SHALL FIND THEE AND CRUSH THEE
>>344060006
*Malevolent Buzzing*
Maaaaaan!?!
>>344064457
>tfw you will never ever play a modern Thief title that is just as good as the originals
>tfw Thief 1 will never get a full remake with it's flaws fixed and atmosphere doubled by modern graphical standards
>no Down in the Bonehoard remake
Fuck.
>>344064984
Thief needs no graphics, it has S O U N D
>>344065098
It would be undeniably better to update Thief 1's mechanics, and also add things like full dynamic lighting, and a few of the things from T3 like more non lethal abilities like oil slicks as a non lethal trap item.
The lighting in Thief 3 made my dick hard
>dat Saint Edgars Cathedral level
Imagine Haunted Cathedral, The Sword, Cragscleft or Bonehoard with that kinda lighting.
>>344064984
>muh remakes
Kill yourself there is nothing wrong with Thief.
>>344060006
I did not think that rats would bare their teeth against the builders stone!
>>344065649
I never said there is anything wrong with it homo.
I just want to play Thief with full dynamic lighting and really good textures.
And yes there is stuff wrong with T1. It's stealth is broken completely. T2 fixes it but the mood of 2 is completely different to 1. No spooky at all. Then 3 had good spooks and good stealth but a whole lot of other problems like small levels.
>>344065945
The stealth in T1 is exactly the same as T2. It's just the level design in T1 is more dungeon crawler less thievery and T2 is more thievery in realistically designed levels. T3 just has too many problems.
>>344067425
No, you cannot just blackjack everyone in T2 because helmets, robot enemies (forcing you to waste a water arrow) and you have more abilities like invisibility potions, that throwable camera to peak around places, and T3 even nerfs the flash bombs so that you can't blackjack a stunned guard anymore either. But also introduces oil slicks.
I remember T2 have more uses of Gas Arrows and Gas Mines too. T1's stealth is bare bones in comparison. I say this as someone who's favorite Thief game is 1 as well.
In T1 it is just way to fucking easy to blackjack literally every human guard it's unbelievable to just cheese levels like that. I don't want to have to limit myself to have fun.
>>344065945
In a perfect world a Thief remake would be great but there's always going to be some asshole who thinks the levels should be simpler, or who misses the point of maps being incomplete, or who fails to put the necessary effort into sound design, or who would rewrite the dialogue to give it a gritty/realistic tone, or who would make the whole game monochrome, or who would make locked down animations for every action the player does under the misguided assumption it makes the game more immersive, and it would become apparent why game remakes should have stopped after Resident Evil's.
>>344068029
There were hardly any guards with helmets in Thief 2, I think they only appear in like 2 levels (the police station and maybe Kidnap). T2 has robots you can't blackjack, but T1 has more haunts/ghosts/zombies/spiders you can't blackjack.
>>344068263
I know, that's why I said I wished it to be on the same quality level as the originals. A man can dream right? I know it will never happen but that image of cragscleft made me desire a modern day good Thief game.
Are thief games the ones with the best sound direction?
Can't think on another one that comes close.
>>344060006
I unironically enjoy thief 1 and 2 melee combat. It's actually quite well made.
>>344068608
The Silent Hill games have great sound design, but there are no games other than Thief that use sound as a game mechanic. That I know of at least.
>>344068029
>>344068525
Is it me or are guards way more alert to even the slightest footstep noises in thief 1?
>>344070228
Maybe there are more loud floors.
>>344065945
>It's stealth is broken completely
lol wtf it's the same shit you just have a few less gadgets
Real talk, how the FUCK am I supposed to sneak around this bank with these floors and that vault security?
>>344071185
repeatedly tap W to move around
>>344070228
They actually only get alert on marmol and steel, if I remember correctly.
If you stand on wood or carpet they won't and if you stand on rock or something like it then they'll go into "who's there mode". However since you are FUCKING GARRET MASTER THIEF, going into darkness and a good ol' hit to the neck should fix it.
Remember, you can walk and have moss arrows, use them.
>>344071301
Oh god is that actually what the devs intended? I always thought that was a dumb exploit
>>344071512EMERGENT GAMEPLAY
>>344071512
Nah I was just joking. It's just a dumb exploit. I think the devs intended you to use the moss arrows to soften your footsteps when you really had to.
>>344071512
There are three movement speeds. Running, walking, and creeping. In thief 2 you can bind creeping to a specific key instead of having to press shift while walking iirc.
>>344065649
You can cheese your way out of danger if you know how the combat works.
One time I was being chased by 10+ zimbabos, instead of running away I fight them all by parrying and isolating them. They should implement something to punish the player for causing such a rukus, like a slow/instant death mechani c or spawning some extra enemies in a tight area.
LAY THYSELF UPON MINE ANVIL
>>344068263
I eill take every flaw you mentioned insteaf of thi4f, because deadly shadow already exists.
NOBODY BETTER BE TAFFIN AROUND DOWN HERE..
>>344073223
I was just listing things I dislike about Thi4f.
yfwsabotage at soulforge
>>344073376
NO TIFF TAFFIN WAY
I spy not in my betters tis' in the Builder's hands.
>>344071512
>>344071185
crouch and creep
How do you get that one piece of loot in the cragscleft level that's being guarded by a mage and a knave hammer?
Present thy credentials! Novice!
Garrett! You're crazy for comin' down here!
>>344074405
>>344074393
is that thou?
PLEASE BE WARNED
>>344074376
Unless you want to wait ~12 hours I don't think there's a way to get it undetected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO_3wegNqrI
>>344074627
Can you get it at all?
I almost think you could blackjack the mage and then go after the novice, but I don't think you can get that close to them undetected in the first place to knockout the mage.
The Builder's truth it is: that man without believe do soften and fail, like rotten wood.
>>344074813
>YOU BRUTE YOU BRUTE YOU BRUTE
>I'LL HAAARRRM YOU
SEIZE THY HIDING, CRAVEN!
Fuck, this thread reminds me why Thief is my favorite game series.
>>344060006
man vanilla WOW was hideous.
how did anyone play this?
>>344075262
>SEIZE
>>344075075
>you will never be a hammer
>building things
>hanging out with your fellow hammerbros
>dispensing justice
>learning crafts and trades
>>344075391
i bet you think this looks good
>>344074813
where the fuck did that robot even come from?
>>344075528
canvas windows?
>>344075574
kek
>>344075629
the workshop in the next room over. You can't see the doorway in the webm
>>344063123
perhaps you are right, same happened with medal of honor
btw I don't think is shitty, it has its charm
>>344060006
IM GOING TO THE BEAR PITS TOMMOROW, YOU WANNA COME WITH?
>>344066997
too romanesque tbqfh
>>344076008
Couldn't pay me enough
>>344071512
It's an exploit, but you move slower and it doesn't always work so it's fair.
>>344076028
Wasn't most of Thief's architecture design Romanesque by definition?
Angelwatch did feel almost Art Deco, however.
>>344076145
WHAAAAAAAT? YOU SOFT BELLY
>>344074813
this is the best file+filename combo I have ever seen
The City is my favorite setting in any vidya, there's just something about it, especially in Thief Gold. I like how it's just The City.
>>344076324
That angel especially, some big gaudy piece of shit
>>344076793
This is the trickster's work no doubt.
>>344076324
it's a mix, but overall thief I and II look more like traditional german-austrian architecture. Then the industrial and port zones look like something straight from victorian era London, and then the modern parts in Thief II look Art Decó, like you say. I think buildings like the bank look more classical roman.
It's incredible what they accomplished with such a primitive engine.
Was it a conscious decision to make karras sound like droopy dog or is it just a coincidence?
>>344078842
delete this
>>344079037
You could have prevented this.
>>344079770
At least Paul is finally making his dream game again
>>344062692
>>344063123
Thief animations are motion-captured, yes.
>>344078071
I like to think it was intentional. As far as character goes, I think it does a lot for Karras. Maybe this is being being an autist and thinking about it too much but here's what I like about it (don't forget to like and subscribe)
Karras is building robots because he believes he is building the Builder's perfect children, beings that are flawless because they truly encompass the Builder's image. He invents recording devices so they can speak, but their voices must be recorded by a human. Karras records his voice, his weak, nasally voice burdened with a speech-impediment. This means these perfect, divine, flawless children of the Builder are forever encumbered with a human flaw. This, to me, reflects the grander theme that man is incapable of creating perfection, and the much more immediate idea that Karras, in his vanity, lacks the absolute self-righteousness he purports to.
It also makes the robots hella creepy and added a lot to the atmosphere of the game (Thief 2 spooks me more than Thief 1)
>>344078071
say that to my mace taffer not online and see what happens
The muffled/compressed sounding drums in the basement in Thieves' Guild sorta reminds me of the beginning of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4znpQmVz9OM
>>344079770
fuck this gay earth
>>344061910
I HAVE FOUND - DANGEROUS CONDITIONS
>>344066997
>Installed the tafferpatcher because everyone kept recommending >Party of a Lifetime
>it's no longer night, the sky is fucking grey
Is there a way to fix this? It really ruins the atmosphere I don't know what they were thinking.
>>344081016
Thanks Square Enix for raping all these beloved IPs
>>344082947
It's just the fog, I'm pretty sure that was in Thief 2 anyway. You can turn it off in the options. I like it.
>>344082947
You should have paid more attention when installing it
>Beware the dawn of the metal age!
>industrial music starts playing
One of the best endings ever
>>344076008
Couldn't twist my nipples hard enough.
>>344083227
>industrial music starts playing
It's just DJ Shadow innit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXl6D4oYIeg
>>344080417
I thought karras was just some hitler parallel. Being a loser outcast who somehow fell into power and went genocidal
>>344083046
honestly, imagining LotP as some early morning romp through the rooftops kind of makes it memorable.
But it's weird how the fog only fucks with that level
>>344084234
That isn't the impression it's meant to give?
>>344084394
I don't think so.
I think it's Tafferpatcher that fucks with the sky for just that level.
>tfw Stephen Russell is slowly making a comeback
>Underworld Ascendant
>Dishonored 2
>Probably some voices for SS1 Remake
>Most likely System Shock 3
>every modern Bethesda game
Is there anything this man can't do?
>>344079770
http://thief.wikia.com/wiki/Thief_II_Gold
I CAN'T BELIEVE SOME TAFFER WENT AND SPILLED MEAD ALL OVER THIS RUG!
>>344083232
the worse thing is that even the graphics suck
>>344084713
play Garrett again
>>344085421
don't remind me
>>344085495
you asked.
How come people hate the mage towers. Took me like half an hour to beat and it was comfy as fuck.
>>344086485
That's not even the weirdest part of his house.
>>344084619
Well shit, I always liked the early morning vibe. There's so much more NPC activity than most levels, it feels like you're getting to see The City just as it wakes up. And it makes it feel like it follows Garrett and Viktoria's conversation as quickly as possible.
>>344087232
I really hate the tower parts.
Stealth is painfully difficult in the earth and fire towers due to the lighting and LOL METAL GRATES, respectively.
I love the central tower part of the level.
Will there ever be another developer like LGS?
>>344087232
The water tower is over very quickly
The earth tower is nothing special
The air tower is mostly waiting around for platforms, which are annoying to fall off of
The fire tower is the most frustrating part of the game if you're actually trying to sneak
The central tower is good but nothing remarkable or unique
I still like the level, all the towers look really cool from the outside.
>tfw the mantle doesn't work and you alert the entire map
>>344088258
This is probably the only legit flaw with the game. Binding mantle and jump to the same key was a bad idea and most of the time it doesn't work and like you said alerts the entire map. Would have been nice if they separated the actions.
>>344088258
>-heeuaaah
>clap down onto the floor
errey time
Why is Song of the Caverns so perfect? None of the conversations are remembered like the bear pits one or the Life of the Party guards but all the opera people are great.
>>344087232
I liked it
Join us... join us NOW!
>>344089450
feck off
>tfw no thief 1/2 remake
>tfw waiting 47 years for a shitty HD texture pack that's half finished
