So when does this drunk fuck get nerfed?
>>344048250
Tomorrow when the Matchmaking Competitive comes out.
>>344048250
Oh he already did, remember? The Tide Turner, The Claymore, The Caber.
BECAUSE IT'S TOTALLY THE DEMOKNIGHT THAT NEEDED NERFING
>>344048250
Never because fagets cry when you reduce the damage of their sticky bomb spamming
>>344048250
in what way is he op now? he's pretty great, but he doesn't have the raw output and versatility that soldier has anymore since the airburst nerf.
>>344049196
>doesn't have the raw output and versatility
You wot? He's the most important class in competitive alongside the medic. He has speed, power and area denial.
>>344048250
He's already nerfed pretty bad anon
>>344049525
He's not as important as he once was, anon. b4nny, the most famous demo, swapped to soldier.
>>344050059 here
oh huh my knowledge is actually outdated, he actually swapped from roamer soldier to scout recently.
>>344050059
b4nny a faggot
>>344048686
>>344048250
he was already nerfed you fucking casuals
>>344048250
You shouldn't nerf what isn't broken on firdst place dood.
>>344050176
Bring up a classes position in competitive, don't be surprised when the highest ranked person in that class is brought out as an example.
I'd rather they buff the underpowered classes to be able to compete with Demo/Solly/Medic/Scout than nerf the ones with solid bearings in the 6v6 meta and I'm hoping that the Heavy-Pyro War is the first sign that that's what's gonna happen.
>>344048679
>The Caber
F
I miss killing scout mains in 1 shot and making them rage quit
>>344050857
iktfb
I had a strange professional killstreak caber and would go into Hightower pubs with the sticky jumper and fuck around for hours. At around 2500 kills, the gun mettle update rolled around and killed the caber. I've never been more upset about a nerf of any kind in any game ever.
>>344050804
Spy is the only person you won't see brought up in 5s really for some reason, he works fine in highlander. The offclassing for 6's seems to rank it as sniper -> pyro/heavy -> engineer -> spy in the power rankings.
>>344052156
Completely agree that Spy's probably the weakest class. He needs something that makes him more dangerous both in the field and elsewhere. I think he should be faster (medic speed would be ideal), knife swipes should be slightly stronger (45 per swing vs. 40), and I think he should be able to hear enemy-exclusive communications (reading team chat and hearing their voice chat). I know that basically means zero in actual league play with outside communication methods, but in a matchmaking game where you're playing with strangers, it could be something.
>>344053560
The main problem with spies is that spychecking is too easy since spies can't pass through enemy team players. I think something should be done about that.
>>344048250
No idea.
Side note: the Loch 'n' Load, in each of it's iterations, has ALWAYS had the ability to two-shot a level 3 sentry, even with an Engie landing one repair swing.
The quicker projectile, faster firing speed and extended nade arc make it perfect for peekabooing a nest from behind a corner when stickies/stock would take too long without an Über and your medic can't reliably Über you; if a sentry is giving you trouble at a choke and you have no good Doktors, just pull out the LnL on your next life and delete that shit in two shots.
Why isn't this more commonly known, or at the very least a fuckin' loadscreen tip?
>>344053683
They should let them be transparent when in disguise.
>>344048679
>demoknight didn't need nerfing
>xDDD lets give demo heavy health just for putting on a shield!
Kill yourself, demoknight was the biggest shitter crutch in the game. Learn to use stickies retard.
>>344053683
>since spies can't pass through enemy team players
And not the fact that like 5 or 6 classes can reveal him?
>>344048250
He already did, stickies and grenades both had their blast radius reduced.
>>344056406
>shitter crutch
>use stickies
>>344056785
Have you actually played him since the update? You can't just m1/m2 and wipe out half their team anymore air stickies have much smaller radius now.
>>344058024
not him but you can still do that you just can't kill scouts as effectively
>>344058024
You absolutely can. You have no idea what you're talking about. Demoknight is and has always been a joke loadout and has NEVER needed nerfing.
also r8 my demo
>>344058434
>Unusual
Into the trash
>>344058806
t. poorfag
>>344058434
>SR memer pretending he knows how to play demoman
>>344058245
The range where M1/M2 is still effective is about the same as pyro's flamethrower. Anyone not retarded is going to slaughter you. Good demos shoot at the floor for the radius bonus.
>>344059215
SR is just more fun than EZ mode launcher. Donking people into traps never gets old and being able to camp multiple flank routes is great. Not denying SR is a straight downgrade to the SL.
>>344059461
But that's 100% wrong you fuck.
>>344059461
and you can still do it just not effectively
>Good demos shoot at the floor for the radius bonus.
good demos can aim pills to kill their enemies
>>344048250
They need to nerf Soldier first
>>344059769
>SR is just more fun than EZ mode launcher
Where you just stare at a choke and wait for somebody to walk in? Yeah that sounds really exciting.
>But that's 100% wrong you fuck.
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Stickybomb_Launcher
>Stickybombs that detonate in the air now have a radius ramp up, starting at 85% at base arm time (0.8s) going back to 100% over 2 seconds.
>Stickybombs that touch the world will have full radius.
>>344059047
>spending 50 bucks to give your head flashing lights and ruin the games aesthetic
t. dumbfag
>>344052156
Because it's realistically impossible to not be busted in a 6 player team with communication. It's too little of a group.
>>344059862
>good demos can aim pills to kill their enemies
Good demos use both. WARHURYEAH and b4nny have both said many times you should use stickies to setup pipes. Using only one or the other is retarded.
>>344048679
What the FUCK was the reason behind the caber nerf
Now you can't use it to troll snipers anymore
It was never OP what the fuck Valve?
>>344060041
If you can't get kills with the SL I dunno what to tell you man. 85% is still huge. M1M2 is still extremely effective.
>>344060062
>m-muh aesthetic
Fuck off back to vanilla where pyro, engie, and spy are all useless.
Also I got that hat for 2.49, I unboxed a shit unusual and traded for it
>>344058434
Pretty cool I'd say, I guess the unusual particle fits with the purple cosmetics. That bottle name though...
>>344060830
>85% is still huge
You're forgetting the maximum radius was nerfed too. It's significantly less stacking the two.
>>344060687
>HURR LET ME JUST CHARGE IN AND GET A FREE MEDIC PICK
>b-but it also gets the demo killed
Demo can sacrifice himself for a 3 second respawn time and put the medic on a 15 second on.
Caber was fucking cancer and I'm glad it got gutted. Eat shit
>>344060830
>Buys unusuals
>Opens crates
lmao
You think you look cool but to anyone over the age of 14 you're basically wearing a "I'm a fucking sucker" sign.
>>344060687
The caber's old damage was the unintended result of a glitch where the explosion got rampup bonus damage.
It was literally never supposed to be that strong, deal with it.
>>344061248
>Spend 2.49 dollars every month or so
>Either make profit or lose 2.49 dollars
If you're so poor you can't afford to make a gamble as inconsequential as opening a crate you need to get off NEETbux
I've made ~400$ profit since I started opening crates and I've spent maybe 40-50 bucks on keys since 2012.
>pubtards talking about game balance
>>344061851
>If you don't buy 6 gallons of shit every month it must be because you're poor
>>344062008
>It's a shit "analogy"
Kek
Stay poor
>>344061893
>/v/ talks about game balance
>>344061893
>weebs talking
>>344061893
It was enough to get McCree nerfed.
>>344061069
>Being this mad out of nowhere
I'm fine if it can't oneshot a medic anymore without charge crit, what I'd like to know if it oneshots 125 hp classes now
>>344061893
>baiter baiting with anime image
How does /v/ feel about using the Loose Cannon?
How does /v/ feel about playing against the Loose Cannon?
>>344048250
>the most OP load-out is the base load-out
Valve is so meta at deconstructing the genre of video games and subverting tropes
>>344062589
Any weapon with high knockback or stun is stupid.
>>344062726
...ly fun to play.
Loose Cannon is the best thing to happen to Demoman.
>>344062589
Loose Cannon needs a buff
All demo primaries need a buff to keep up with stock GL.
Loose Cannon is the most fun one though ever since LnL got nerfed into uselessness.
What sticky blast radius change? When was that? Haven't played in weeks
I remember when they changed the stick detonation time so you couldn't quickly explode them, and this was pretty much a buff to sentries
>>344062874
>When was that?
Smissmass 2014
Stickies are much harder to use against better players now, demoman lost quite a bit of DPM on average in high level play.
>>344062813
>Loose Cannon needs a buff
No it doesn't, it's still braindead easy to hold chokes and block ubers with. The projectile is big as a fucking bowling ball, you can't miss.
>>344061615
>the disciplinary action was meant to have longer range for friendlies and regular range for enemies, instead of the other way around
>it remains unfixed to this day
>>344063320
Ah
to be honest I haven't noticed, I still hit shit as demoman
>>344063463
and it's still worse than stock.
>>344056406
>spam sticks and hold R
>not infinitely more effective than any tool the demo knight has
Never, devs are more occupied playing Overwatch.
>>344062810
You know it, baby!
I've used it since winter 2012 when it first hit the scene; even with its four-second timer and 30-damage rollers I loved it so much.I actually purchased it from the Mann Co. Storeand I still have that same Loose Cannon today
>>344064471
And yet demoknight is still the most used loadout.
Hell yesterday I asked a demoknight in a pub to use stickies because they had a bunch of sentries and heavies and he told me
>I've never used stickies
>>344066429
>And yet demoknight is still the most used loadout.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Never post again
>>344066429
people can use what they want and pubs are the most casual environment
also stickies aren't that fun in pubs so i just switch to the sticky jumper or a targe
>>344066429
>tfw watching demoknights get mowed down by an unattended sentry
>>344066848
But watching people crying over stickies is the best shit ever, as long as you play on good 5cp maps and not shit like junction and dustbowl
>>344067547
>But watching people crying over stickies is the best shit ever
it gets boring after a while though so i just use something else. the only time i ever use stickies exclusively is in comp since everything else is unviable garbage in that setting.
Remember this shit was OP?
>>344068102
Unfortunately yes
>>344068102
No.
LnL was never OP. Git gud, scout shitter.
>>344068102
>this and liberty launcher
why didn't they just force people to aim
>>344068786
>LnL was never OP
nice meme dude
never because b4nny mains him
>>344061893
>comp shitters talking about game balance
>HURR DURR BAN EVERYTHING
>>344069691
>he seriously unironically believes weapons like crit a cola or reserve shooter are balanced
>>344069467
acquire skill
