Answer honestly. Who here has legitimately lost faith in there being any good games anymore?
>>344040585
not me.
though i've given up on western games
>>344040585
Bannerlord is comming, havent given up yet!
I mean I'm starting to think that it's really time to just collect 6th gen and earlier forever and just play those if I want to play something.
>>344040927
Western games have been shit for about a decade imo.
>>344041597
yeah, especially around 7th gen it became awful when it felt like every game used 95% of it's budget for graphics and marketing
>he fell for the "WE HERE AT /v/ LE HATE EVERYTHING XD" meme
Hello, fuckin newfag from cunting reddit.
Fuck you!
>>344040585
jokes on you m8, i play old gamesit kills me inside every year
>>344041973
I'm 26 and I just don't like western shit or reddit for that matter.
>>344040585
Not me.
I'm having the time of my life. If this hobby sucks so much, just shut up and get a new one.
/v/ thinking that modern games are shit is the most underage and entitled thing I see on this site.
Do any of you actually fucking remember old video games outside of the classics and your favorites? Or even just how buggy those could be?
Old video games are generally shit and the only reason new ones seem bad is because they are consistently at such a high level of quality, our standards have become impossibly high. An 8/10 is merely an "okay" game now.
>>344040585
the new zelda looks good.
i want to see how Kojimas latest game is like and i have faith he'll produce something amazing
>>344040585
me,myself and I
>>344040585
The new Deus Ex will be good right?!
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>right?
Or are you talking about NEWLY created (new IP) games being bad. I mean indies games aren't all that bad, some have been quite refreshing. Better than the same
>kill these neo-nazi, russian, future war-mongers
>hear someone mouth breathe scream they fucked my mom twice last night into their mic
Some companies will keep with the same trend and make continuous sequels year after year because it worked for them and they know goys will keep buying no matter what and advertise it like no other. (Similar to Michael Bay making millions of dollars each movie he makes). And
Gaming has never been better.
Objectively, games are at one of their highest levels in terms of overall quality.
People seem to forget that in the 80s and early 90s, shit that is bad to an unplayable level like Ride to Hell was NORMAL. There were so many more bad games than good ones back then, that Nintendo had to create a Seal of Quality to filter this shit from legally getting onto their systems. Nowadays a Ride to Hell-tier game is an oddity, something that comes out for people to laugh at for how bad it is. People who want to go back to the old days, do you really want to go back to when games like that were significantly higher in quantity?
And before someone says "the ps1/ps2 era was better!", both of those consoles were overloaded with crappy shovelware. Just because you didn't play it doesn't mean it didn't exist.
>>344045905
>star
Literally the only game I'm looking forward to is Bannerlord and that's simply because it seems like it's going to be exactly like Warband but with better grafics and better sieges.
Everything else looks like trash, consolized shit or just "cinematic" experiences made by failed screenwriters. The last game I played with some actual gameplay was Divinity Original Sin and that's over a year old.
>>344040585
"But what about...?" you say, and we cut you off mid-sentence, gently place our fingers on your lips and whisper: Good games have never existed in video games before.
>>344047572
this, only hipsters think games are getting worse
>>344048575
pc purists are the fucking worst
You are literally unable to have fun.
Games aren't bad, you just aged
>>344047572
>Overall quality
That's actually a really fucking bad thing in results.
That means basically only the stuff that can get extremely dedicated staff, insane budgets, and loads of attention in programming gets by 99% of the time.
If you're not getting Snow White and The Seven Clever Boys, stuff like Gitaroo Man and Armored Core pre-gameplay reboot isn't gonna fly either from the pure risk.
>>344040585
nothing's changed
one or two good title a year, the rest are mediocre trash
>>344040585
Not me because I'm not a fucking drama queen with nigh-impossible expectations.
>>344049673
>That means basically only the stuff that can get extremely dedicated staff, insane budgets, and loads of attention in programming gets by 99% of the time.
The only thing that has changed between then and now among those is budget.
And even then that's kinda bullshit because things like Neptunia found an audience and make enough money from each game to finance the next one, and those games are made on a shoestring budget.
>>344041597
And weebshit has always been shit.
>>344047572
More or less this. It's true that some genres lack the high peaks they had before (I'd kill to get squad tactical game on par with JA2 and a stealth game on par with Thief or SC:CT), but the overall level of vidya has actually became surprisingly high.
>>344040585
Nah games are still good. You just don't like videogames possibly never did and were just using them for escapism.
>>344040585
i´m just waiting for US to release Final Fantasy X remake starring black people only so i can finally kill myself. You know its gonna happen sooner or later.
You have to be literally retarded if you actually had any hope for vidya after 2007. By that time vidya had become so shitty, that it should have been obvious that thre's no hope for future.
The industry of games, producing casual shit, to sustain the beast that's compiled over the years? Yes, completely lost faith in them.
Small groups of "independent" developers who try to balance their desire for acceptance, to be seen, and their greed? Starting to seriously fade into nothing at the moment, because their greed seems to be winning out.
Individuals who are probably autism spectrum, who don't care if their game makes money or if they spend the rest of their life alone? There's still hope for a good game from them... If they'd ever fucking release it to the public.
I have not lost faith in good games. There are plenty of good games out, and coming out. I have nothing but optimism for good games. However, I know that there will never again be a truly GREAT game for an original IP. There might be good sequels, possibly even GREAT sequels. But there will never be a new idea that so completely blows everyone out of the water and starts a fantastic new franchise ever again. I have also totally lost faith in there ever being a remotely worthwhile multiplayer online shooter. All that are left are mobas or battlefield clones. There will never be another game to match Unreal Tournament 2004 or vanilla TF2 ever again (that won't die within a week anyway)
Depends. Are we talking strictly about the AAA industry?
>>344049482
I don't know what that's supposed to mean, and I have fun with fun games that have gameplay, and aren't interactive movies. And before you pop a blood vessel, I should tell you that one of my most favorite games back in the day was the Return of the King video game, a console port. It was fun to play, and I wish more games nowdays are like that.
>>344047572
Dude kill yourself.
The evolution of games over the past 16 years has been a long march to "streamlining", dumbing down, shovelware, focus-grouping, and microtransactions.
Just like radio music has been homogenized into formulaic pop trash after executives figured out "the formula" to easily appeal to the most people with the least effort, so have video games.
Never again will you see high-budget weird shit like at the turn of the century, when executives were dumb yes men who were beholden to the artists and programmers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1Eiw90Lnh0
They're about the same as they always have been
Always a drive for a particular game mechanic or graphical setting. At the moment the emphasis seems to be on improved lightning and a dash / blink button in every new FPS
>>344050202
Then why can I still play some games, and I can still play old games just fine, but not 95% of the new ones?
>>344044159
Dude I'm not trying to trigger you, but at least back in the day none of my console games would literally just freeze. Max Payne 3 just stopped working for me. Grand theft auto 5 kept resetting itself and I literally couldn't get to the end of the game or even play it because of that. Also, new games are not at such a high level of quality. Developers put out unfinished shit all the time now because they don't give a fuck about anything except for the bottom line which is the money. Games are consistently made these days which treat the user like they are a fucking retard holding your hand and giving you constant audio and visual cues that just take you the fuck out of the experience. I'd also like an example of a really good original idea or property these days.
I mean I don't know what you're trying to defend.
Games were simpler yeah and the technologically was worse technically, but that doesn't make them bad, nor does it make these modern games better than what came before.
>>344050295
>if they spend the rest of their life alone
dude nobody wants that it´s a pretty sad and suicidal way to experience this journey
but hey whatever keeps you happy until you get to make that baby right m8
>>344050568
I'm not your therapist, I'm just telling you how it is. I play a lot of old games too but you're dumb if you think no good ones come out anymore.
>>344050463
No offense but consolizes implies that all console games are somehow shit.
>>344050579
You're high. I used to have to blow on half my games before they would even start and even then freezes weren't particularly uncommon.
>>344044159
>new games are 100% bugstested and never glitch!
If anything, they're even worse than before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA3vijm17Bs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQkd7afLBNk
>>344041597
>its a console fat thinks he knows about western games episode
>>344040585
me
I'm so bored I make my own games now
/v/ may hate me for this, but honestly, we can't have any hope for good AAA games, and indie games are the last place to look to.
AAA games are necessarily about pandering to the lowest common denominator. They inevitably have dumbed-down mechanics - it's the only way to reach a large audience (this is part of what makes them AAA). Mainstream gaming is no longer a niche hobby.
Now, a lot of indies go down that same route, but it is only by sifting through mobile and cashgrab clones that we can find truly good indie games. And besides, most of these "diamonds in the rough" are free in the first place, as the devs care about something more than pleasing a large audience (see: Dwarf Fortress).
>>344047572
>just because you didn't play shovelware doesn't mean it didn't exist
Well, you could usually tell it when you saw it and it wasn't that hard to avoid. Shovelware merely existing doesn't matter at all if you aren't playing it.
>>344040585
Nah I haven't, but they are more rare now and what should be guaranteed quality isn't a sure bet anymore either.
>>344050916
Same.
>>344050735
No good AAA games do, anyway, which is what i'm sure the OP means.
>>344050773
Console games right now are shit. I guess you must've been in a coma during the past 3 years and during this year's E3.
>>344050989
This is probably the most correct answer
I think that the idea that all old game are "good" comes from a "selection" in how games are viewed from later years.
There were a ton of games being made back then; There are a ton of games being made now. However, why does it seem that there are so many "good" old games? Simple - there were a shitton of "bad" old games, but we only remember the "good" ones. Give us 15 years, and we'll be remembering some of the games from this time as great, and we'll completely forget about the shit ones - next thing you know, we'll say that this generations games were better than future ones.
>>344051069
Last year Bloodborne was great MGSV was good at worst and Witcher 3 was pretty good.
If you mean shit like asscreed then it was never good.
Nah, I'm fine.
I'm only disappointed when planing AAA western filth.
>>344051130
This year's E3 was fucking awesome.
I've never had a bad year of gaming since 1992.
>>344049992
>Budget isn't a big deal
>look at this super niche title made on a shoestring budget that needs to pander the hell out of itself to survive
You just explained why your argument is stupid. Not every game is a RPG where you just need bare minimum assets once you have the first game's assets out.
The first Neptunia was a fucking shitty dungeon crawler for Pete's sake, so the comparison doesn't even make sense.
>>344050048for you
>>344051392
>liking #FE
Neck yourself, my man.
>>344051529
It's actually great.
There's nothing wrong with the game itself, just the localization. And I patched that.
2014
Titanfall
Alien Isolation
Wolfenstein the New Order
Mario Kart 8
Shovel Knight
Smash Bros Wii U
Bayonetta 2
2015
Witcher 3
Rocket League
Bloodborne
Until Dawn
Rainbow Six Siege
Undertale
Pillars of Eternity
2016
Overwatch
Doom
XCOM 2
Dark Souls 3
Uncharted 4
Am I to believe no one liked even one of these?
>>344050519
OP here and this guy is vocalizing where I'm coming from, and he used a great example of a game as well.
>>344051392
Enjoy your japanese cartoons, son.
>>344051760
All AAA garbage or faux-indie trash.
>>344050863
You can tell me about good ones on PC then if you want to.
>>344050695
>dude nobody wants that it´s a pretty sad and suicidal way to experience this journey
Depending on the spectrum placement, they could actually be completely fine with what others could consider a prison cell or temple monk tier existence. A few hours of social interaction in a week could be all they could handle or desire, too.
All kinds of people exist.But yeah i seriously doubt there's *that* many special individuals around. Such is life on this neglect-ridden crapsack death world.
>>344051872
Yeah thanks I will, I'm even posting on the perfect imageboard for this right now.
>>344051975
>Bayonetta 2
>Smash Bros
>Mario Kart 8
>AAA garbage
>>344051975
If you don't like a single game on there then you don't like videogames, feel free to find a new hobby.
>>344051069
I do mean that.
>>344051130
>Past 3 years
I don't see what was so good about them.
>E3
Well yeah I missed it. I am really looking forward to Last Guardian though.
>>344051760
You forgot some this year (and the others too)
>>344051975
Consider killing yourself or finding a new hobby
I'm doing my best to make a game that'sfun.
>>344040585
Not me. Just got Duskers and Thea: The Awakening, and they're both fantastic. Get out of the console wars and the AAA section and find yourself some gems.
>>344051760
There's good games in there, but you emphasized that games are getting worse
>>344052138
Okay, I'll give you that Smash Bros is all right.
Earlier MK games are better, though.
Not a fan of Bayonetta at all.
>>344052169
On second thought, Smash Bros is all right - I'll play it from time to time.
X-COM 2 is all right as well, but buggy and unoptimized, and it just makes me want to play the original X-COM.
I'm not saying that all modern games are bad, but that list is an incomplete and doesn't represent my taste. My favorite modern games are the ones no one seems to talk about - true roguelikes and Dwarf Fortress (okay, that one gets some press) come to mind.
GEE I SURE HATE VIDEO GAMES, GUYS! WHAT BOARD SHOULD I BROWSE!?
HMMMMMMM, I KNOW!
I'LL GO ON A BOARD
ABOUT
FUCKING
VIDEO
GAMES
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA LE CONTRARIAN HIPSTER MEME, AM I RIGHT FELLAS!? I'M SO HIP AND JADED AHAHAHA
GO THE FUCK BACK TO /r9k/!!!
>>344040585
Just avoid AAA trash. If you can't spot obviously shitty games like The Division or Call of Duty in Space #354 by now you're a sucker who deserves to get taken advantage of.
Also, keep an open mind and be willing to try new genres.
>>344050916
>tfw deving a game is more fun than actually playing it
>>344052714
I've never gotten this whole anti culture. Why are people here so fucking cancer and jaded? That's not normal.
>>344052268
>Reviews
>IGN REVIEWS
Get outta here
>>344052935
>review
Damn right, Uncharted 4 doesn't deserves 9 when even the fans are actually disappointed
>>344052916
I am convinced everyone on this site is insane. And no, I don't mean "haha he's so insane". I genuinely think everyone on this site has some form of narcissism.
>>344052916
We used to like videogames when they weren't shit, meaning pre-2007.
>>344040585
I haven't, good games and shitty games have allways existed, we just filtered the bad stuff out
Seriously, look at the old gens and you will find a shitload of bad games that dissapeared in the dust
This is the thought process of someone who allways plays the same games and doesn't bother trying anything new
>>344052439
Duskers is great.
You just need to know how to look for good games. Don't look among AAA titles or meme indie titles - it's the ones that go somewhat un-noticed that end up being truly good (since, mainstream media is all about reporting on "accessible" games [read: catered to the lowest common denominator] - and these "accessible" games are going to be talked about more because, again, it's the lowest common denominator that makes up the majority).
>>344052854
>THIS TYPE OF GAME IS SHIT!
>b-but keep an open mind though
I get what you're saying, but that's a bit hypocritical.
>>344053230
It's not just /v/ though.
Also
>we
bioshock infinite was the best of its time, video games is art
>>344052854
This senpaitachi
>>344040585
I did and then I stopped caring so fucking much about video games and suddenly I could enjoy then again.
Sure some things still disappoint me, an example being I've been rather disappointed with Nintendo as of late. But I got a bunch of new shit like Tokyo Mirage Session and overwatch and old shit like radiant dawn that I fuckin love
>>344053230
So in short: I got burned by Spore and ME3 so now I'm fucking emo.
>>344052916
I'd still take /v/ being so critical and hyperbolic of games over the discussions that go on elsewhere. At least here you can bash a game and get called out on it, anywhere else is just a hugbox.
>>344050048
You're right, games like Katawa Shoujo will always be mediocre.
pic related is the exact game that killed vidya for good for me
>>344053487
>visual novels will be mediocre games
hmm
>>344053480
The Internet and gaming is too small in general. As in there's a shitload of discussion, but it's not accurate. The vast majority of gamers does not go on the Internet to look up information or discuss games.
>>344053246
Holy shit, THANK YOU!
I've tried to express this before and I just get called a shill. /v/ used to be so self aware and awesome in the early days. What the fuck happened to make everyone so insufferable?
>>344052854
Honestly if you just went into it looking for a mindless good time with friends, the last CoD was a great game
Hell no
I'm looking forward to all sorts of shit coming out. Gravity Rush 2, Nier 2, SMTIV Final, Shantae, Bloodstained, Breath of the Wild, etc.
Cyberpunk 2077 when it eventually comes out in 2077.
Furi just came out and that's enjoyable.
>>344053187
Yeah, especially /r9k/. It's funny at first but it's apparent they're mental.
>>344053605
Katawa Shoujo isn't Japanese. It's weebshit.
>>344053654
the internet got more popular, more consolefags invaded /v/ with their obtuse opinions and desire to insult the competition while strongly praising their exclusives due to having to justify their purchases
could you imagine trying to organize a team to play against a reddit team in any video game these days?
>>344053480
Why can't we have a middle ground? Why can't we have somewhere meant for gamers and not /pol/tards disguised as gamers and shills?
>>344050295
>Individuals who are probably autism spectrum, who don't care if their game makes money or if they spend the rest of their life alone?
Well yeah, these are where the best games are. The freeware or freeware-mindset games are made without an audience in mind - they are the direct outlet of the dev's wishes, and so the dev's vision is most clear and direct in these games. This makes them good, as it's where we see the most interesting ideas come forth (ideas that are not muddled or watered-down by casualization to the lowest common denominator, or considerations of "audiences" or "marketing.")
It's true - the best, most interesting games are in fact free. Look at Cave Story, look at Iji - look at Dwarf Fortress, at Aurora, at almost every roguelike.
>>344053630
Agreed, any website, forum, or Norwegian water polo image board is the vast minority compared to most people who go out and buy games. It's just hilarious when the online communities preach about shit the "masses" do and then turn right around and do it themselves.
>>344053654
I think it's a maturity thing, most people I know grew out of being a cynic and in doing so grew out of using 4chan.
>>344053839
I honestly think it's moved beyond brand loyalty. If you surround yourself with depressing people you will end up depressed. Odds are most neo-/v/ shitposters don't interact with other people much.
>>344053839
Pls don't bully consolefags.
t. idort
im in the same boat
wish i could go back to a time where quality games were being churned out regularly: red dead redemption, skyrim, mass effect 3, etc
>>344053849
Human nature, most likely. People either tend to love or hate things.
>>344054101
you're okay
>>344053669
Any game is "good with friends," and a game being "mindless" is never a good thing.
>>344053849
We can, it's called Something Awful.
Problem is it's got a paywall and the /pol/tards around here love to shit talk it cause SA doesn't think feminism is ruining video games.
What are you talking about you faggot, last year was pretty good
Pillars of Eternity
Mad Max
Bloodborne
The Witcher 3
Also upcoming releases are fucking great
Bannerlord
SMT4: Apocalypse
Persona 5
Horizon Zero Dawn
Death Stranding
Zelda: BotW
Dude Sex: Mankind Divided
Final Fantasy XV
Also indie games are in a golden age, no one cares about pretentious shit anymore, they're gameplay focused. Terraria updates, Deadbolt, Hyperlight Drifter, Furi
>>344044159
That is /v/'s mentality on everything, especially with anime.
>>344053839
>could you imagine trying to organize a team to play against a reddit team in any video game these days?
>>344053230
2006 probably had less good games than 2008. Not sure why 2007 is your line.
>>344053839
>consolefags invaded /v/
This boards lifespan has always been console war shit. No one invaded except for PCfags from Reddit. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>344040585
I'm very close.
Ubisoft doesn't make real tactical games anymore. Splinter Cell: Blacklist had adequate gameplay but the worst story and voice acting yet- everything felt off. Sam Fisher should be trying to kill Anna, he should be smarmy as fuck towards Charlie, and he should be casually beating the shit out of Kobin whenever he can. He does none of these things- everyone feels like a robot. Ubisoft refuses to make a real Rainbow 6, I am not excited at all for Ghost Recon.
Valve hasn't made a real game in 9 years. NO fucking MOBA's are NOT real games. They. Are. Not. Real. Games. I expect to find something like DOTA on fucking newgrounds, or as a WarCraft 3 custom map- not a fucking standalone game. A company worth billions of dollars and is beholden to no investors should be making amazing new IP's or reinventing Half Life, not making aesthetic cash-grabs based on the IP's of 1990's Quake mods.
Bethesda proves time and time again that their idea of innovation is removal of previous features and concepts and dumbing the game down as simply as possible. Fallout 4 saddened the ever loving fuck out of me, and I don't trust the company's upper management (Todd Howard, Pete 'Who wants to talk to NPC's?' Hines)
Bioware used to be a Canadian treasure. Now it's a tumor, a company used to justify shitty games by saying "If you hate our games, you just hate homosexuals."
I have not bought a new Call of Duty in seven years. I see no reason to start again. Even Gran Turismo, a series that I always felt I could just sit down and spend hours enjoying, now feels like a tedious chore. I have had no reason to buy an Xbox one or a PS4, and don't see a need to in the near future.
Games may look prettier, and animations may be smoother. Everything may be voice acted, and everybody's using motion-capture tech and hiring actors, but they're just not so fun. There are a handful of notable exceptions, but not much.
>>344054190
Nah man, sometimes you just wanna play a game to relax and unwind and not really think. I dont go into CoD looking for a mentally stimulating challenge. I go into CoD lookin to slide around with a shotgun.
>>344040585
This is it. This is the only game I'm hype for this year, at least I won't be dissapointed this year.
>>344054502
Bethesda and Valve were always shity if that makes you feel better.
>>344054349
>>344054250
Everyone on SA has severe mental problems. It's the sickest place on the Internet. Far sicker than here.
>>344054096
That's probably true. R9k became bad because the antinormie shit snowballed. I gotta say /v/ actually seems better all the time, people are more chill and spout less dumb shit.
>>344054502
Move on to different companies when old ones fail you.
>>344054675
>SA was so sick moot made 4chan to escape it
>>344050863
>muh indie kickstarter trash
>>344054706
Don't tell him to move to "companies." "Companies" do not produce good games; they produce media for profit.
He should look to indie devs (and not the fake indie devs who beg on Kickstarter, but the ones who are keeping the hobbyist roots of gaming alive).
>>344054096
It's this, I've noticed I've been happier since I limited the time I've spent in here. I've also seen people become /v/ personified because of how much time they spent on here. They are both very unhappy and insufferable.
my problem is that I buy a bunch of singleplayer games on steam but end up only playing multiplayer esports shit instead
>>344054687
>I gotta say /v/ actually seems better all the time, people are more chill and spout less dumb shit.
I disagree. This is probably the worst this site has ever been.
Before most people would just shit on games for fun, now it's become a knee-jerk reaction to be ashamed of your own hobby. Are you aware people are actually taking the Quinton meme seriously?
>>344053490
>tfw I play it nearly every day and STILL enjoy it
Protip: Infinite Heaven mod on PC, Subsistence on every mission. Increases replayability tenfold.
Or just play FOBs which I still think are fun, I do that on my PS4 though to not risk a ban on PC ;)
>>344055067
Maybe I'm filtering it better. Who's Quinton?
>>344055067
I see what you're saying but if you stay away from the bait threads or retarded posters from /pol/ it's not so bad. Plenty of threads are chill as fuck without the constant arguing or shitposting.
I'm 25. There's nothing I'm currently looking forward to. I'm going to trade in all my is4 games except Bloodborne and Dirt Rally and get Overwatch and Sherlock Holmes because everything I own is pretty shit.
>>344054919
Or I don't do that because I'm not so fucking jaded as to believe anything you just said. Companies, Kickstarter Devs, and Hobbyists are all still making good games.
Not me.
I'm a positive person.
>>344055234
I spelled it wrong. Basically a troll from /lit/ that people on this site take way too seriously.
>>344055245
I understand those threads are just bait, but it's the genuine replies that annoy me.
>>344055584
Oh that meme. That's funny as shit but how can you take that seriously.
>>344055569
Source?
I'm not a melodramatic faggot who thinks things just get worse as the world keeps turning, so no.
I enjoyed NuDoom and Overwatch this year, and TW3 last year.
>>344055774
Kichikujima I think. I just reverse searched it as well. It has middling reviews but most horror stuff does.
>>344040585
good games come out every month
for 3ds and vita
stop being a console pleb
>>344055936
thanks bruv (y)
>>344054502
>muh REAL Rainbow Six game when Siege already exists
>>344050519
I remember those times. Games were more diverse back then. Now there is just shooter, third person shooter, and walking simulator
>>344056249
And mobas.
And fighting games.
And hack and slash games.
And racing games.
And and and and and
>>344051760
I personally enjoyed Smash, DaS3, Doom, and Rainbow Six Seige. Im even playing Doom right now.
>>344056160
siege isn't a proper rainbow six game if you consider the previous titles to be proper
>>344051760
2014
Dead on Arrival
Good game
Good bur needed more content
>MC8
>Good
DUDE KNIGHTS LMAO
Disappointed in the way this smash was handled really just made the game crappy
Actually better then 1
2015
Good game made by based Poland
Rocket Ludgue is the underdog of 2015
Best game of 2015 hands down and is the best souls title
Holy shit UD really blew my mind on how good it was.
Killed the R6 Franchise
I don't need to talk about Undertale but it's OK but not 10/10 worthy but spider is best girl
Obsidian needs to stop on these games a make a Fallout game NE
2016
Overrated as hell Should had made the game a single player or coop rpg game man its just wasted potential
Story mode is the only good thing about it
2 is disappointing a he'll fucking Enemy Unknown is better then this trash heap
Just like Xcom2 just disspointing and really is sorry that this is the last souls title
Currently GOTY plus multiplayer is so good it's better the 2
>>344040585
>I am such a cynic...
>I am far too jaded and world-weary to have faith in anything anymore....
>I envy you your foolish optimism...
You need to be 18+ to post on 4chan.
>>344041597
Lucky me i only really got into gaming in 2010 so ive been playing a lot of old games and still have many to go. I hope i dont run out soon
>>344055067
There's also the whole anti e-celeb thing. I don't care about who Jim Sterling is or if he has an open relationship, he made funny BMC videos and I watch them. Angry Joe is a greedy spic, James is a cuck, pewdiepie is a retard and so on. Jokes became actual hate. At least Todd posting is still relatively innocent.
>>344057209
You will literally not have the lifespan for it even if games stopped being made now.
>>344057428
Luckily huge swaths of games are re-skins of the same basic idea with one or two elements changed.
The more you play, the more you understand what you can ignore.
>>344044159
>entitled
Why is it that whenever anyone uses that word it's in the middle of something insanely stupid
>>344057680
shifting the blame
>>344056772
what like Vegas? Siege is the closest you're going to get for an actual Rainbow Six game for a long time.
>>344040585
If all you follow is triple A games, then yeah. Smaller budget games that can experiment may not have the visual polish as something like Uncharted but unless you wanted more of the same, there's not a whole lot of inventive triple A games.No, Persona is not inventive, it's rps with something of a dating/friend system
>>344051392
>tfw revelator isn't on fucking pc yet
plz arcsys
>>344057630
Yes, the problem is that i notice even in old and current games is that a lot of them are just the same game different title. Thats why i said "i hope i dont run out soon" as in original ideas
I have one last hope,Escape From Tarkov.If that's shit then I'll probably just give up on everything.
>>344040585
There are still good vidya, they just became the minority because casuals, kids, middle-aged nu males, etc. are the main target audience now.
Games like Fallout or Commandos, or the original Chrono Trigger, Suikoden and thousands more were the standard back then. Now The Division, Rise of the Tomb Rider and Uncharted are the norm.
We lost our hobby, and have to resort to our backlogs or really specific stuff released nowadays. Happens.
Not yet.
Good games are still made, just not very often.
>>344058779
But I like both those categories. There is more coming out that I want to play than I have time for. My backlog grows weekly.
Nah. And fuck you all anti-western fags. Most of my favorite games are western.
>>344058779
Are you really arguing CT was the standard back then? You're fucking high man. PS1 and SNES had so many garbage games it was unbelievable. CT etc were the golden standard but not the norm.
>>344040585
Procedural generation needs to die. I want a handcrafted game again not a cobbled together franken-game.
>inb4 "cinematic experience meme"
>>344050861
Not at all.
The two examples you posted are infamous for being bltichy. They are far from the norm now, wheras back in the day that was the norm.
The one thing i'll give you is that PC ports are still consistely pretty iffy, but back in the day PC ports weren't nearly as common, either.
>>344050579
>Dude I'm not trying to trigger you, but at least back in the day none of my console games would literally just freeze
That's complete bullshit and you know it, see >>344050849
I could go either way at this point. Depends a lot on how Dishonored 2 and Deus Ex turn out. I've been looking forward to these them for about 5 years.
>>344059546
Even major games like Final Fantasy launched with bugs that could never be patched or fixed. FF6 had some bug with evasion and a ton of other exploits I recall.
>JRPG's are considered the standard for a good game for real enthusiasts.
But why?, they are basically glorified board games. The original story driven games. I haven't get to far in a JRPG as i wasn't enjoying the experience, so, feel free to tell me why i'm wrong.
>>344040585
i did in 2012. that was when i finally realized nothing mattered because i had done everything
>>344059247
That's how popular games looked back then. They had their own unique design sensibilities and catered to fucking GAMERS, not anyone else. It was gaming made by gamers for gamers, not failed film school rejects. Read up on how Bioware started out, for example.
>but games were also largely shit back then because, uhh, NES and SNES shovleware exists
Missing the fucking point: 101
>>344059247
The difference was that the creators didn't have seasoned execs looking for Cawadooty returns breathing down their neck.
Also Japanese games had an unblemished appreciation for antiquity and would just make stuff that was un-apologetically beautiful to them without trying to that pretend fat buttplungers are on par with psychologically and physically healthy humans.
Now all that is being kiked away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtF80UCgarY
Videogames are better nowdays. You just are jaded. Give them a rest.
>>344052268
>remake
>inferior tf2 clone
>worst Uncharted game
>remake
I played Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild. So my answer is "no".
>>344060749
Yes a remake is the GOTY.
>>344056160
How to spot the person born after the year 2000.
What do I mean by Rainbow Six?
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six (1998)
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Eagle Watch (1999)
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear (1999)
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Urban Operations (2000)
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Covert Operations Essentials (2000)
Tom Clancy's Ranbow Six: Raven Shield (2003)
>>344060736
>don't understand your argument so I'll call you jaded
Erry time
>>344061330
What argument?. OP is just "hurr fuck videogames".
>>344061105
Dumb cuck. I've literally played those when they came out, including the N64 port for the original game. After Lockdown and the Vegas series, Siege is a welcomed return to the series' roots. You probably haven't even played Siege anyway.
I don't think a single good game has released this year thus far. I'm starting to think knitting would yield more fun at this point than video games.
>>344061510
There are more people in this thread than just OP. Honestly, I must've spend at least half a decade here and it is still mind-boggling to me how fucking dumb some of you people act.
You didn't have essays in high school? Or any basic conversations on a given topic?
>>344061819
this year has been great so far compared to the last 3 years. you probably dont like video games
>>344040585
>Underrail
>Battlefleet Gothic
>Total Warhammer
Nope, I've been having a blast.
>>344062260
Name literally one.
>>344061706
>Siege
>Return to the roots
>cuckposting
>>344061706
>Siege is a welcomed return to the series roots
Different anon here. Older Rainbow Six games were single-player. Don't make a fool out of yourself.
>>344062351
Dark Souls 3 and Xcom2 were great. EDF4.1 also came out this year I think
>>344062538
>xcom2
Any reason why the Firaxis titles are still less complex than a 2D game from 1994?
>>344062401
>No argument
>>344062514
What's your point? Once you beat single player you moved onto multiplayer like the rest. Older games had terrorist hunt, Siege has that too.
>>344040585
platinum exists, so I've got faith
>>344062705
They want the casual audience but ended up losing them to the timers. Its still fun if nowhere near as complex as the old western SRPGs
There will always be good games, they just won't be good for you.
>>344062168
Most of the posts can be reduced to "AAA games are shit" and "all games should be JRPG". Those are shit arguments.
>>344050519
>Just like radio music has been homogenized into formulaic pop trash after executives figured out "the formula" to easily appeal to the most people with the least effort, so have video games.
This is a horrible example. Barring independent broadcasters, radio music has ALWAYS been about the hits. Even in the 70s, rock bands would have a few "radio-friendly" songs that would always get played (and their other stuff would rarely get played). See: Pink Floyd with Money, Have a Cigar, and Wish You Were Here.
>>344062351
Grand Kingdom, Odin Sphere, Monhun Gen (demo is godlike so game will be godlike), SF5 (bad launch is not the same as bad game).
>>344062993
>They want the casual audience
Eeexactly. When exactly has the PC crowd turned pants on head retarded and decided it would be a good idea to design PC exclusive franchises with the console version as the base?
What sort of a fucking cretin thought it would be a good idea to put a western strategy game on a console?
That's like me designing an fps for a casio watch.
DON'T VIDEO GAMES SUCK LET'S CIRCLEJERK GUYS SO EPIC LE TIRED GAMER MY DEPRESSION GLORIOUX NIPPONESE JRPGS VIDYA WESTERN GAMES ARE TRASH
>>344063513
None of those are good. Try again.
>>344063572
I'd play it
I've lost faith in them many years ago, but I've given up and just continued to play them because I'm addicted. There's really nothing else to my life now than video games.
>>344063686
No you just have godawful taste. They're good.
>>344063686
Why? So you can continue to call everything we suggest shit?
Calling it shit is not an argument against quality, by the way. WHY are they shit?
>inb4 buzzwords
>>344063313
No, standards have gotten much lower because people settled for shit, see >>344063727
The #1s for each genre belong to older generations, and it will stay that way forever.
I'm depresed because i can't play videogames. You are depresed because you have played too much. Let's switch places.
>>344063413
All games should be SRPGs is a quality argument though
>>344050278
Why does everyone say vidya turned to shit after 2007? A lot of great games have come out after that date.
Honestly, if you hate video games so much you shouldn't be here. That would improve the quality of this board a fuck ton.
>>344063647
we can see your butthurt from the opposite end of the milky way.
>>344063783
Series born in 2005 which stayed as samey as Souls, with some full priced tweak released every few years, basically Tales. Nice. Odin Sphere? Says a lot you need to cling to a port of a 2007 game, like some people do with Persona Golden Shower.
SF5 is just nothing remarkable, no revolutionary system whatsoever. It is solid, as solid as an eight out of ten game is. It does not stand out in anything at all. It's good? Sure. Amazing? Nah. The RE5 of fighting games.
>>344064283
Srpg are jrpg tweaked for people who like to stick fingers up their asses.
>>344064313
The holy trifecta of shit released in 2007: Bioshock, Mass Effect and Assassin's Creed, with Uncharted as added bonus of shit.
>>344064313
I like video games a lot; it's just that most of the popular, AAA, or hyped stuff never interests me.
Nothing wrong with talking about older, or even obscure titles - it's often about these titles that /v/'s discussion is best (when it's possible to get a thread going, of course).
>>344064773
>Srpg are jrpg tweaked for people who like to stick fingers up their asses.
you mean peopel with taste
>Having standards is now being jaded and insane
Summerfags are in full force once again.
>>344064773
>Srpg are jrpg tweaked for people who like to stick fingers up their asses.
Pot calling the kettle black I see
BioShock is good and has all good games (I started with BS1, so don't give me that shit)
AC is generally good, with a few bad apples. It's bound to happen with 13+ titles
Mass Effect is all good, but since the ending of ME3 (which I didn't even think was bad) makes everyone pretend they never liked it
Never played Uncharted so no comment there
>>344065316
theres having standards and then theres just not playing good games
>>344065316
>calling all games shit is now considered "having standards"
How has your over inflated ego not exploded yet?
>>344064773
You said none of those games are good, then you follow up by saying they're good. You're confusing.
MGSV: TPP was a pretty big blow. Even after jewing the absolute fuck out of us with GZ we still got fucked in our asses anyway. I'm not sure if I'll really ever recover from it.
>>344065403
>>344065568
You can enjoy eating shit, but you have to at least be mature and intelligent enough to understand you're eating shit.
Didn't see a single mention of Splatoon.
Aside from it being a third person shooter, it's the most original IP and game we've gotten in a looong time.
The world is engaging, the characters are actually cool and likable, the system as a whole worked seamlessly, the FREE add ons were extremely welcomed and up until recently were more than custom paint on old weapons.
Maps were fluid and were engineered to keep the flow of gameplay rather than clusterfucks.
Hell the single player side story was actually fun, had a sweet boss, and helped you with your skills for online play.
Also the community tournaments (splatfests) are a great idea and were looked forward to.
This coming from a 30 year old who hasn't felt the excitement of playing video games since the days of N64 Mario 64 and PSX Crash Bandicoot.
>>344065926
Jesus Christ dude. Why did you play games that whole time. Like 2 decades of not enjoying games and you just kept plugging away? What the hell.
>>344065861
You can enjoy having a terribly self-righteous opinion, but you have to at least be mature and intelligent enough to understand you're an annoying faggot
>>344066742
Yeah well, it all begins with >>344065316 and he's right about calling that bullshit out. It's far more likely you're fine with eating shit and not him being blinded by nostalgia.
I'd say about the start of 2019 games will start to deteriorate. We hopefully still have 2 or so years till vidya dies.
>>344040585
>Persona 5
>Zelda BotW
>Dishonored 2
>Other stuff
I'm looking forward to future games.
I listened to /v/ and didn't get Dragon Age Inquisition for a while
You tricked me into getting a shitty Senran Kagura game for 3DS and Inquisition is actually good
/v/ is always wrong
>>344052916
Read this pasta and tell me if it sounds like the people here are the type of people that enjoy things:
This site has nothing to offer anybody. There is no quality content here you cannot get more quickly and efficiently elsewhere. This is an addiction which reduces your productivity, attention span, and free time. You are becoming more bitter, narrow minded, haughty, and old. Leave now and block this site. There is nothing here but slow, lonely suicide.
People do not have arguments here. Posters do not engage one another on key points, they nitpick with greentext and mock each other. Nobody is interested in the truth; people are battling for fleeting moments of superiority. Active commenters are loud jackasses who tumble into one internet fight after another, anxiously keeping ten tabs open to ensure they keep the last word in all of them. An insightful post is one in ten thousand, and no matter how hard you filter this place you are still searching for diamonds in a garbage dump.
This place is not making you happy. You are not having fun. You are not gathering stories to tell, learning, or growing as a person. Instead you chuckle every thirty minutes and are occasionally spurred to masturbation by libidinal posts or pictures. You are addicted to readily available information and pressure free social interaction. This place is slowly poisoning you with misogyny, narcissism, a false dichotomy surrounding normalfags, and insecurity.
I'm not telling you to b urself. I'm not telling you to go outside. I'm not even telling you to make friends. Just leave 4chan. Do anything else.
>>344040585
I haven't, I've just accepted that they are very far and few in between. Doom 4 and Bloodborne were great.
>>344068178
The more fanservice a game has the more likely it's fucking awful.
>>344068240
It's true. A shame though because this site has so much potential.
>>344068361
Kill yourself, SJW cuck.
There are good games but now I don't have the time to play them because of School and what not. A good game last a bigger impression on me then when I was a kid.
>>344068851
I didn't say fanservice is bad. But bad developers rely on fanservice to sell a game when they can't be fucked to make a good one.
Try and tell me Senran's gameplay would sell a game without titties. You can't.
>>344068835
It is mostly shitposting but every once in a while you get good threads with people actually passionate about the games (specifically Zero Escape threads but now we discussed it back and forth we just shitpost now)
>>344068361
Retard
I'm waiting for these:
>Bannerlord
>Legend of Grimrock 3I hope they are making this ;_;
>Cyberpunk 2077
>>344068240
Or maybe it's because there's no name on it that people can go full no holds barred and they don't need to put up a facade pretending something is better than what it is.
Seriously: think of an unanimously considered shit game and look for forum opinions, you will still find people trying to spin it as a good game. Some people even had the nerve with something likeSkyward Sword.orOther M
>>344040585
It's just a phase. You'll grow out of it.
>>344056249
I agree that there's certainly less diversity in genres by major studios, now, but what is said in >>344044159
and >>344047572 are still true
