>Competitive matchmaking
>Quickplay matchmaking
>No f2p's
>NO AUTOBALANCE
G E T H Y P E
OH SHIT
>>344034168
How timely
>>344034168
Too little too late. Since tf2 competitive was announced Overwatch was announced and released.
They had like 10 years to do it and they're barely doing it now
Is it 6v6?
Took them long enough
>>344034463
Both 6v6 and 12v12
HEY
DELETE THIS
I JUST BOUGHT OVERWATCH AND IT'S GOING TO BE DEAD? WHAT THE FUCK!
>>344034538
> implying
>>344034527
Might get back into then.
Got tired of arsing around on large servers
MY DICK
>new maps and comp and that's it
I thought we were supposed to be hyped
>>344034754
its a multiday update, this is only day 1 of 2
N I N E Y E A R S
I
N
E
>no weapon restrictions
Annnnd into the trash it goes.
>>344034527
It says only casual mode is 12v12 on the site which sucks because 6v6 is way too small even for TF2 maps. It's best in 8v8, in my opinion.
>remembered the days when class updates hyped the fuck up out of /v/ anons
The day the Spy update was revealed is a day I'll never forget in /v/
>No f2p's
Where did you see this? All I can find is a bit in the FAQ saying you only need to pay if you don't add a phone number
>>344034168
>2016
>TF2
>>344034754
>t. retard
its a multiday update
are you retarded or pretending?
>>344034834
the idea is to balance everything to be viable, expect a big list of changes
>>344034894
Casual mode still has matchmaking. It's not going to be much different from competitive, both depend on how effective the matchmaking will be.
>>344034834
weapon balance tomorrow frendits gonna be shit
>NO AUTOBALANCE
Best update in years.
>>344034898
>Scout update gets memed to be a sneaky Spy update too
>It's not
>Then Sniper update comes and it actually is a sneaky Spy update too
That kind of diminished the whole impact for me. At least Meet the Spy was fucking amazing.
>>344034395
>Too little too late
came in to say this
>>344034168
>casual playing is dead
What will happen to 24/7 2fort 32 player servers then?
>>344034968
>multiday
Thanks valvedrone, but there will still be no new weapons
All there will be are new tiered weapon skins and new hats and miscs. That's it
>>344035024
Please don't nerf the axtinguisher again
>>344034915
>Q: HOW DO I GET ACCESS TO COMPETITIVE MODE?
A: To gain access to Competitive Mode, you must have a Premium TF2 Account and a qualifying telephone number on Steam.
Keyword is AND anon
>>344034915
premium means not f2p
>>344035170
>>>/owg/
>can't even have a nice tf2 thread without shills coming in to ruin everything
shoo shoo babby's first shooter poo
>>344035024
Valve weapon balancing is weird as fuck.
It's like there's this one guy at Valve who plays the game and actually understand what he's doing and makes good balancing shit like in Gun Mettle and 2014 Summer Update and then he has a partner whose retarded and ruins everything the other guy tries to achieve like in Tough Break.
>>344035170
We don't need new weapons, we need the old ones rebalanced.
>>344035205
>you have to give out a telephone number
and
its gone
>TF2
>competitive
my sides
>>344034168
overwatch is just much more fun, every single character is fun out of the 21 or so, meanwhile TF2 feels boring and bland, not enough varietyand no waifus either
RIP TF2
Now I can't hop in and out of games as I please, killing everyone without breaking a sweat
Now I have to play "matched skilled" players for an entire game
Valve forgot that most people who play aren't tryhard faggots
>Valve now scared shitless of Blizzard
Give it up dipshits, your hat-meme game is done. Try and make a new game once in a while.
>>344035318
>le anyone who states the obvious is a overdrone
*farts*
>>344035361
This won't happen
>>344034834
fuck off
>>344035396
t. 10 hour spy main
competitive tf2 will be joke until valve fixes tf2's performance problems(mainly caused by community made hats), I'm NOT going to compete with people while my fps swings wildly from 30 - 120
>>344034168
OP HERE
Forgot to say
Overshills need not reply
Am I too late?
>>344035205
>less chance of hackers/boosters/bad players
I'm fine with this desu anon
>>344035416
yeah its all awful
you should do yourself a favor and kill yourself before the update is completed
>TF2 Comp update
>3 new community maps
>Overwatch comp update
>no new maps
????
Literally trying to get their playerbase interested again in a decade old game after Overwatch is already released and has millions of players, some even stolen from TF2.
Smells like desperation to me.
>>344035205
>AND A QUALIFYING TELEPHONE NUMBER
yeah, nah, fuck off Valve
just in time
>>344035396
If Overwatch is competitive pretty much any shooter can be too
>inb4 pyro nerfs
>>344035583
>>344035643
what's wrong with it?
>>344035380
Its just asking for a phone number anon, not that authenticator garbage.
>>344035527
I have over 3000 hours
TF2 ain't comp and the comp scene is a fucking joke
>the moment a TF2 thread is posted, overtards come to shit it up
Don't you fags have some shit you need to be eating? Let other people play games they like in peace
Why doesn't valve just make new games.
TF2 is going to be twenty years old by the time they even start work on a new game.
>>344035708
fuck is all that shit on the left side?
>>344035606
>COMMUNITY maps
>maps that valve took no time or effort themselves to make
>>344035456
is anyone supposed to be impressed with your 1100 hours of pubs and most likely iron lobbies?
>>344035416
Fuck off. Leave if the only reason you play TF2 is pubstomping because you are too socially retarded to play lobbies.
Competitive has been dead for years though
>>344035708
Not everyone wants to give away their phone for obvious reasons.
>>344035178
if it means buffing pyros anything else please do
axe shitters are the absolute worst, literally frontstab spies
>lets copy overwatch's system and call it a new update for tf2!!!
>>344035792
l4d3 probably coming out fall this year
dota 2 is by far one of the most significant games of all time, just because you don't play it doesn't mean it doesn't exist
>>344035793
spectator hud for commentators
>>344035708
>comp tf2.avi
>no weapon bans
>no class limits
lmao
>>344035708
I don't want to give Valve my goddamn phone number
what's wrong with the email?
>>344035606
I don't like Overwatch all that much but you forgot the slight detail of
>>TF2 Comp update
>9 years after actual games release
>Took popular maps that have always existed and just packaged it with Comp.
>New gamemode that they themselves didn't even make
>>344035793
Spectator hud.
>>344035791
Most ironic post of the day
>>344035902
>dota 2 is by far one of the most significant games of all time
>just because you don't play it doesn't mean it doesn't exist
I played 1800 hours of it before i realized how tired and boring the entire genre is. I probably won't play it ever again.
>>344035863
>owerwatch invented matchmaking
Why are OWfags so defensive? Go back to your containment general.
>>344035923
>what's wrong with the email?
you can make a burner email in under 10 seconds
>>344035923
Anyone can get a new e-mail easily but it's unlikely someone would get a new phone just to cheat.
>no autobalance
Is this just for this mode?
>>344035806
>unironically playing competitive TF2
what's next? Competitive L4D?
the comp scene for TF2 is a hilarious fucking joke.
>>344035923
giving phone number is a good thing in any type of genuinely competitive environment
they could solve a thousand issues in dota 2 if they required a phone number
>>344034898
hey anon
remember
[spoilers] tonight's the night! [/spoilers]
If this is the big update I will laugh my ass off.
Just fuckin' matchmatching, bunch of shitty community maps no one will care about aaaand shitty game mode.
>>344036085
No for everything.
Pubs will now essentially be uncounted 12v12 comp.
>>344036102
>the comp scene for TF2 is a hilarious fucking joke.
this
considering a bunch of """""competitive""""" sniper players got banned during the first LMAOBOX banwave
>>344035923
>considers steam trustable enough to give it credit card number
>can't trust them having phone number
???
>>344034395
>>344034754
And watch the player numbers soar.
Screen capped for tears later
>tf2 is now overwatch for poorfags
>>344036035
>LE OWFAGS DEFENSIVEE GO BACK 2 UR GEENURRAALLL
Why are tf2fags so easily triggered? :^)
>>344035863
>o-overwatch invented matchmaking!! valve is a bunch of copycats!!!
Blizzard defense team out in full force today
>>344035797
Maps are maps.
>>344036152
Did anybody expect anything else?
They're even getting lazy with putting new hats in the fucking community make.
>valve needs to just remove all the new items and do Vanilla competitive
>they'll never do it because of all the money they make off crate shitters, and don't want to anger the hat shitters
>>344034168
>Persian Persuader's blood material finally getting fixed
ABOUT FUCKING TIME! I'VE WAITED 5 YEARS FOR THE FUCKING THING TO LOOK CARTOONY!
>>344036230
epic irony
>>344036152
>aaaand shitty game mode.
PASS Time is actually good friend.Probably because it's not made by Valve
>>344036102
>unironically posting 1000 hours played as if it means something
you're rich bud
>>344035671
its not
>>344036216
>keeping your card info on steam
wew lad
>>344034538
Overwatch almost has as many viewers on Twitch as TF2 has players.
>>344034168
too little too late, still better than overwatch though
>>344036220
>competitive causing player numbers to soar
It's been out in beta for a few months now, with passes being thrown around like candy through players. Just yesterday I saw my pass had generated five of them.
It being out of beta will increase players, but it won't increase it largely
>>344036304
>I can't adapt to new things HELP HELP CHANGE IS SCARY
>>344036152
What the fuck else did you expect?
Seriously. New weapons would fuck the balance over again.
>>344035797
Maps are maps.
>>344035863
Just how delusional can you be. This system has been in place in csgo for a longer time than OW was out.
>>344036323
i'm not that guy oh wise sage, I have over 3k hours.
>>344036253
>can't disagree with an argument or i'm automatically a blizzdrone
If that makes you sleep at night, that's ok anon. :^)
>there is 1 (ONE) person who is blindly defending Overwatch by shitposting in a 4chan thread on /v/
This is a good thread
>>344036304
>Removing some of their biggest moneymakers to appease to a handful of fags who keep clinging to a decade old game
Gee I wonder why they don't do it
this thread being full of people saying they aren't interested is proof that people are interested
overwatch will actually hemorrhage like 50k players back to tf2, a lot of people are done with it already because the game has no depth
>>344036383
>I've only started playing TF2 after F2P!
>>344036152
>Day 1
>>344035946
>>344035797
The ability for the Community to make and add content to TF2 has kept its heart beating for years.
Blizz will never let the Community do this, how long do you think Overwatch is going to last?
>>344036220
>comp
>player count soaring
pick one, all the people who gave a fuck about comp already had a beta pass.
>>344036328
>I only buy my games from suspiciousgamekeys.ru.tk
wew lad
>>344036434
>Message from Blizzard Entertainment
>$0.07 has been deposited into your account
Whats your argument? That valve is "copying" Overwatch when the exact same system has been in place in CSGO for years?
>Give us your phone number so we can sell it to third parties, or else pay 10 dollars for what is a free mode in every other game that exists.
Fucking jews, I can't believe they'll get away with this
>>344036479
>I've only started playing TF with TF2!
anyone can play at this game
>overwatch
>competitive
>tf2
>competitive
overshills go back to cod... actually no, cod is probably too hard for you.
tfags stop writhing in the filth your half dead game.
>>344036474
>this thread being full of people saying they aren't interested is proof that people are interested
>>344036494
you do know it will probably just be weapon balancing right?
We don't get cool shit anymore.
>>344036474
I enjoy both. But I'll play what my friends are playing. Playing competitive without friends is not that engaging.
>>344034168
>competitive matchmaking
Ah yes, another rigged system that isn't "competitive" in the slightest and does everything in it's power to bog you down, like every other ranked mode in all multiplayer online games.
Yeah, I'm so hyped...
>>344036616
Good job anon, you've completely misunderstood what I meant :)
Why the hell are people so scared about using steam guard?
>>344036479
>unironically liking Demo Fortress 2 with Dustbowl-tier only maps and no content
>>344036608
>Give us your phone number so we can sell it to third parties
what would they do with it? unsolicited cold calling is a violation of federal law and after you tell them not to call you once and further calls result in up to $40,000 per call violations. the government don't play with that shit anymore.
giving a phone number to verify so people can't just make endless troll accounts is a necessity, and future games will require it, so get used to it
>>344036467
>there is 1 (ONE) person who still actually cares about TF2 and is replying to every mention of a better game on /v/
you keep me hard
>>344036209
As much a joke as top level CS and OW then who still have known hackers playing
>>344036705
i only trust mark zuckerberg, google and other jews with my phone number
>>344036705
They want to cheat or they're too poor to get a fucking shitty burner phone
>tf2
>hype
>>>/mlp/
>>344036608
>giving credit card is okay but phone isn't safe
>>344036209
>Highlander
>Competitive
Pick one
>>344036705
it reminds me of when my parents told me they didn't want to "send through credit card through the internet" circa 2000
>>344036705
I don't give my phone number out to anyone other than family and friends, it's principle
>>344036695
No, that's the dunning-kruger effect anon.
>>344034754
>new maps
you mean old community maps that have been out for 3 years or so
>>344036832
>Highlander
>not the best for competitive
literally retarded
>>344036532
>The ability for the Community to make and add content to TF2 has kept its heart beating for years.
Oh no, I know that but Valve has become increasingly lazy and quite frankly what bothers me most is the fact that despite their laziness they refuse to let the community to do any cool shit.
End of The Line was a shitshow specifically becasue Valve refused to communicate with the community, just telling them to do whatever, and then when they didn't like anything they had to offer they just straight up shut them down. Invasion was a slight right step in the direction but even then they was little communication and they took out so much actual good content out.
>>344034168
thank fuck I was getting bored of OW and its broken ranked system already
hoping they add 9v9 highlander too
![eJQSHjGV2[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/OVs3I4E.png "eJQSHjGV2[1].png")
>>344035318
>Can't even have a nice OW thread without mad TF2 kiddies coming in to ruin everything
>>344034168
GOD FINALLY A FUCKING REASON TO REINSTALL THE GAME
RIP IN PIECES LE FRIENDLY HUUVY XDDD HOPE YOU STAY FUCKING DEAD
>>344034538
As someone that has friends that had played tf2 for thousands of hours all of them only talk about overwatch
these days so I don't think so
>>344035402
Where were you back in 2007 when TF2 was new?
>>344036895
new maps as in they've added maps to the game, I know that they've been out for a while
>>344036932
This isn't an OW thread, so why are you here?
How long before Valve forces you to give them your phone number to keep using Steam?
>>344036898
hl babies
>>344037014
hes afraid
>>344036663
>go back to cod
Why do I always hear 12 year olds saying this now? They try too hard to fit in. Most over used fucking insult ever.
>>344036898
>Having all defense classes on the field at all times
Enjoy your stalemate
>>344037029
will never happen, no reason to
all games with ranked/competitive modes will require a phone number in the near future get used to it
>>344036220
Currently at this very moment a peak of, give or take, 60.000 players.
Let's see in the coming week, Anon.
>>344036705
>Trusting literal gamblers and scammers with your information
Valve are literal jews.
anyone wanna make a premade and roll some shitter teams
>>344036936
>he thinks friendly shitters won't shit up comp
Mark my words, there will be people that literally only queue just to do that.They will always be on your team and you WILL suffer from it
>>344036936
>not just shooting them on sight
what are they going to do?
Autist
>>344036705
Paranoia that they will use your phone number to collect more data and consumer info about you.
Which isn't that much of an extreme to imagine because that shit does happen, but I don't care enough to not to do it.
Is pl_goldrush in fucking competitive too? Because that fucking stage 1 is clearly favoring the team defending.
i played 6's for years already and i dont recall valve giving a shit about comp
what prompted valve to suddenly care? the release of overwatch?
>>344036932
This isn't an OW thread you fucking mongoloid
Go back to babby's first shooter and your joke of a competitive scene please
>DAY1
>MULTI-DAY UPDATE
NEW COMIC PLEASE
NEW COMIC PLEASE
NEW COMIC PLEASE
>>344037082
>le "you're 12 xdd" meme
>>344037179
I think this was on the works well before OW was announced.
>>344036102
>He doesn't know how much competitive can be a versus mod in l4d2
Heh, wow.
>Casual
>Actually sounds decent
Should have called it Fun Mode.
>>344037094
So every game that has a competitive mode will force you to give the company your personal information (despite not doing it at all until Valve), but theres no reason to believe that Valve will force you to do it to keep using their platform?
>>344035556
lmao hows that 3dfx voodoo card doing
everyone has been getting 200fps in tf2 years ago, the game is almost 9 yrs old
>>344037176
It's only 6v6 CP/Attack and Defend
It's unknown if 9v9 will become a thing.
>>344037179
loud minority screaming for years on end
comp community is dogshit, it's why I quit in the first place.
>>344037221
>two day update
>NEW COMIC PLEASE
I'm sorry anon
Holy shit valve is in full damage control mode.
>>344037213
Nigga, TF2 has even worse hitboxes on projectiles, TF2 has joke of hitboxes on HITSCAN weapons. At least Overwatch is good in that.
>>344036397
>This system has been in place in csgo for a longer time than OW was out.
Then it's quite sad it took Valve this long to put it in TF2.
>>344037213
>TFat trying to call anything else babbies first shooter
>>344037352
Yes, do you have zero understanding for the reason why a game would require it and a platform would not? think hard
>>344036932
blizzard piggu go home
wow, this really makes you think about how jewish Valve is
>TF2 prints money
>let's not do that anymore, PCucks will keep us alive by buying our hats
>Overwatch is a hit
>h-here's a new mode! it's not rushed or anything! haha, please come back we need your hat money
Valve showing his true colors
>>344037314
>L4D
>comp
stop
>>344037471
>hitboxes on hitscan weapons
hitboxes being designed a certain way for gameplay reasons is absolutely fine and people not understanding the arrows thing in both games just don't get it. it's for gameplay balance, you'd never hit anyone otherwise
aiming at a huge gap between a characters legs, firing, and hitting the character is auto-aim. nothing to do with hitboxes.
>>344037543
They already did that when modding scandal broke out.
>>344037543
did you forget about the paid mod fiasco?
>>344037314
It's even shallower than TF2.
>>344037221
>last issue of the "trimonthly comic" was ten months ago
>>344037385
it's well known that TF2 has performance issues,
>>344037543
Competitive has been in fucking beta since I don't know.
>valve still jewing their 10 year old game
wake me up when TF3 gets released.
>>344037639
This is true, all these shitters crying about hitboxes in Overwatch don't understand the fact huntsman in TF2 does this too, for a good reason.
But seriously, source games have always had awful hitboxes, they're infamous, it's fucking funny seeing TF2 players who probably came into the game as F2P trying to use that againts Overwatch, when Overwatch has them far better.
>>344037471
What are you talking about? Hitscan hitboxes work properly with the sole exception of engineers bullet proof crotch. Lag compensation is the bigger issue and I don't think OW does that any better.
>>344037908
this, source in general has shitty hitboxes and hit registration, I can't tell you how many times an obvious hit was considered a miss and vice versa.
>>344037908
How much money is blizzard paying you?
>>344037385
4790k @4.8ghz still dips below 120 if there are enough players in an open area
>>344037840
source: ???
>>344035131
those are not official servers
I assume nothing will change on the unofficial ones
>>344037890
d-don't tell me... is he that super sonic fan whatever?
>>344034834
Literal autism
>telephone number
>not f2p
nah, its gonna be dead. tf2 playerbase stayed alive because of it being a casual f2p game. most people just play on valve servers with default settings, the more serious players are actually a really small portion.
>>344037890
Autists still give them money for hats and keys and shit.
TF3 will never come out. It's not good for Valves business.
>>344038036
>shill
attn: all you fucking babies that complain about tf2's hitreg
change your lerp
>>344034754
and football mode :)
>>344038162
>He does it for free
lmao wat a cuck
>>344038049
google it friendo
but from my perspective
>980
>i7 4790k
>can't maintain 120fps due to community unusual hat horseshit
seriously explain this bullshit.
im more hyped for hats tomorrow and weapon skins and the new crate + key and the new cashgrab
>its gonna get praised
>>344038036
>>344037971
Fuck you all, I have 3704 hours on TF2. This doesn't apply just to TF2 but source games to general, where the fuck were you two? The hitbox discussion around Counter Strike: Source has been going on for millenia.
3 or so years ago I'd be losing my shit.
I-it's too late now Valve. You're too late.
>>344037908
>for a good reason
No it doesn't there is no justification for the huntsman's retarded hitbox. Sniper rifle uses hitscan hitboxes why should something three times as big use fucking collision hitboxes? This shit is just as dumb in TF2 as it is in OW.
Why do people who play tf2 competitively play this game at the lowest possible settings?
>>344038209
people who complain about tf2's hit registration simply don't know better. they have no idea what has good hit registration and what doesn't.
source engines are in the upper tier and always have been. counterstrike shit is counterstrike shit and has nothing to do with games like tf2.
>>344036872
>Valve literally admits in a blog post about 50/50 in Dota 2 matchmaker system
Must be a fruitful life you're living, being so ignorant and innocent.
I bet you'll waste your life in this new comp mode too.
>>344038297
>implying the human eye can see more than 60fps
So can I join in the middle of the match in Casual Play or not?
>>344038339
TF2 is an unoptimzed mess, so that gives the best frames
>>344038297
>i'm running an 650ti
>nothing
nice argument friendo
>>344038306
That's because those games have an actual RNG system in them.
>>344038281
$0.05 has been added to your account
>>344038297
>680
>i5 4690k
>can maintain over 100fps on max settings
when will this tf2 has performance problems meme end?
I'm hyped to shit. Still the best class based shooter around. Fuck the Overshills.
>>344038373
>>344034168
>The TF2 comic storyline still isn't finished despite it supposed to being a biannual thing
Well at least this will make for some shitposting fuel, no doubt it will double the amount of daily concurrent Overwatch threads on /v/ now which means twice the amount of non-Overwatch threads being pushed off the board to make room for them.
>>344037890
who is this semen deamon?
>>344038209
already did, feels like dick all changed
>No f2p's
That's all I've ever wanted
So do the free players have to buy the orange box now?
>>344038306
Counter strike is a game built on headshots. TF2 hitting someone's neck instead of their head isn't a big deal.
>>344034168
>no f2p
what does this mean? I bought it for like $2 a few years back during that flash sale. does this mean I can play since I paid money for the base game? or is this something new I'll have to pay for?
>>344036898
>Game mode where Sniper is the most important class at the high end
>Good
>>344038545
now use any other weapon in the game and see what happens.
>>344038545
you wanna dance?
lets dance, fuckboy
>>344038528
then explain why I had no issues on my 660ti, but I do now on my 980
>>344038630
>>344034168
whoa only 5 years late!
>>344038545
yes and? if you're complaining about this you simply don't know any better, like i said. this is gameplay design, not any kind of issue or error
>Please keep gambli- I mean playing our games
>>344035178
What else can they nerf on axtinguisher?
>>344034168
Meh, I'll only install it again if the update includes some performance improvements.
Almost a decade of cosmetics, particles, and shit withpout proper LODs in general has turned TF2 from a slim, toaster friendly, well optimized game into a bloated mess.
>>344038581
By
>no f2p
They mean you have to buy something from the Mann Co. store
our dreams of the only people who are allowed to play are the ones who bought the game will never happen
>>344038683
Because you bought a 980
>all this butthurt by both fandoms
>>344034754
We are.
https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steam/news/22675/mymday2.png
Valve was dumb and it got leaked.
>>344038339
because it's an unoptimized mess
>>344038692
>>344038768
>pyro with a heart shape
I hope this doesn't mean he's getting buffs
>>344038692
lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh3gPQuVCWo
Wonder if I can still get away with abusing the vacc in matchmaking....probably
>>344038807
Literally nobody cares about your theory crafting.
>>344038132
>Wanting to play against the retardedly OP weapons
gfycat com/FormalShorttermGelding
>>344038339
See
>>344038037
>>344038763
Honestly both sides are pretty bad
Overtards instigated this shit though
>>344037890haha
>>344036301
Look at TF2 community, they are expecting the BIGGEST update yet. They are so desperate right now.
>>344038339
besides higher fps it also gives less visual clutter
>>344035708
>that lag
You don't play as a pyro with bad ping. Especially against other pyro. Period.
>>344038768
fucking finally
>>344035830
>>344035923
You know we never had this "use your phone number on steam" shit until Gabe opened up the market and kiddies were running rampant with their moms' credit cards buying a shitton of crates. You can trace the market all the way back to the mannconomy update for TF2, that has single-handedly changed Steam and several games for the worse. Imagine if TF2 never introduced hats at all.
>>344039036
nobody is expecting the biggest update ever almost 10 years into the game bro.
>trying hard to generalize and hate a group of people who play one game
sigh. this petty normie shit just never ends
>>344036301
>>344039036
What is the worst fanbase around and why is it the overmemers?
>>344039057
>whines about viral marketing
>virals in the same post
overdrones
>>344038339
TF2's optimization is dogshit terrible and performance issues have only piled up over the years.
>>344039119
this
>>344039057
>>344038536
