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What stats should I be focusing on as Tremere? Any way to make by blood bullet thing hit harder?
Any way to dispel blood shield?
Apparently you can only get the best outcome with Jeanette/Therese if you have 5 in persuasion, any other stats I should be pumping for story reasons?
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Is it your first time playing?
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ISOLATED
>best outcome
Best outcome is having Therese take over though. Jeanette a shit
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>>344025261
Yes
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>>344025346
Then why the fuck are you looking up how to do the quests? Just play it on your own.
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>>344025469
I don't want to spend all my XP on intimidate only to find out it's useless. I'm the kind of guy who will start a game completely over even if I'm almost at the end because I found out I've been doing something sub-optimally.
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>>344025675
Maybe look up some build tips, a few skills are largely useless and the game is more combat heavy the longer it goes on. Don't use guides tho.
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>>344025675
You can get through 60% of the game with social skills, but focus on one only (Persuasion is the best).
The hacking and lockpicking skills are useful for finding some secrets, which may give you aditional options for early quests.
Put some points on combat skills, because you'll be forced to fight late game.
And Tremere is easy mode when it comes to combat, so just put shit on blood and spam blood Strike, it's free.

That's all, this isn't a minmaxing game, stop being an autist.
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>>344025153
Just spend all into thaumaturgy.
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>Hell of a FUN tier
Malkavian
Nosferatu

>Top tier
Tremere
Gangrel

>Decent tier
Nosferatu
Brujah

>Shit tier
Toreador
Ventrue

Proof me wrong
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>>344025153
>What stats should I be focusing on as Tremere?
Sucking your master's blood-cock.

Seriously, man, don't use a guide or anything. Is it a game where you might be talking to people a bunch? Might be a good idea to have a social skill then. Going to have to fight a bunch of kine? You're gonna want to be proficient in at least one form of combat by the endgame.

>>344026128
>but focus on one only (Persuasion is the best
Wrong.
Persuasion and Seduction is objectively superior.

>>344026649
>Carthage Tier
Malkavian, Nosferatu
>Top Tier
Brujah, Gangrel
>Decent Tier
Toreador, non-Camarilla aligned Ventrue
>Shit Tier
Camarilla-aligned Ventrue
>Kine Tier
Filthy Tremere
Also you had Nosferatu down twice, you crazy Malk!
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>>344025910
>Maybe look up some build tips
What do you think this thread is for?
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>>344027446
>Going to have to fight a bunch of kine? You're gonna want to be proficient in at least one form of combat by the endgame
It's not really possible to see that coming though
At least I thnk so, I can't really tell because I knew going in that you can't non-combat your way through everything
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>>344027525
Waifus of course.
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>>344025153
If you want social adeptness, put a few points in persuasion. For combat, choose what you want, either ranged or melee weapons and put points accordingly. Melee is good all the way to the end, ranged starts weak but becomes the most OP of all towards the end of the game.

If you're playing UP basic edition, Thaumaturgy is only OP until level 3 (you can dispel the shield with F8 I think). Levels 4 and 5 are too expensive, but 5 is very fun and very powerful if you have the blood packs to support it.

You can't upgrade the damage of Thaum by putting more points into it. Blood purge is OP anyway, you shouldn't have a single problem.
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>>344027704
>It's not really possible to see that coming though
>At least I thnk so, I can't really tell because I knew going in that you can't non-combat your way through everything
It was pretty obvious to me at least playing through the game for the first time, since all the way through there's a decent amount of combat situations that get harder (both to avoid and to fight) as you get further into the game. IT's just the sheer jump into forced combat which shocks most people... that, and builds relying too much on a single option (like Dementation) that loses its potency.
Really, though, with the incrementally-increasing cost for skills and powers and the variety of challenges in the game, if you don't know what's coming next planning a build that lacks any one thing, combat or social ability, is probably a bad idea.

>>344027736
You know where it's at, Kindred.
Replace Ming Xiao with Heather or Damsel or both and that picture would be perfect
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>>344028389
I guess you're right. RPGs where a purely non-combat build works are exceedingly rare
Off the top of my head, I can only think of Planet Escape Tournament (mostly at least) and Age of Decadence
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>>344028389
There wasn't enough Yukie in the game

Damsel best grill, VV close second
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So this is a Bloodlines thread, right?

During a Nosferatu run, I managed to boost by Obfuscate to the point where I could be invisible for a full minute.
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>>344025153
Post waifus!

Also best track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bYmjJK00XA
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>>344028541
Arcanum allowed you to simply hire people to fight for you and you could go through the game without ever dealing any damage.

Maximum Jew Gnome runs are the best.
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>>344028541
Yeah, and they usually make a point of showing you that you can get past without combat.
With Bloodlines, it's always there (though you can be a more esoteric fighter, like a Tremere blood mage or Malkavian/Nosferatu relying on Dementation/Obfuscate or a Ventrue relying on Trance)

>>344028916
>There wasn't enough Yukie in the game
>Damsel best grill, VV close second
You're completely right, anon, and a man of sublime taste
>those posters you get for helping out Gary
A comfy haven is the best part of this game.

>>344028921
Some of the powers become awesomely overpowered if you max them out.
My personal favourite is still Celerity+Potence, though.
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This is the actual best track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX_kez_xwJs

It's information for the world to see.
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>>344029324
>My personal favourite is still Celerity+Potence, though.

I'm partial to Celerity+Auspex for max John Woo gun fu.
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>>344029025
That's been on my backlog forever and I never started it because people say guns are underpowered. What's the point of a magic vs. technology setting if I can't use glorious technology to slap some mages around?
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>>344029324
celery is hilarious
>playing Brujah
>blood demon in the art gallery slaps my shit
>fuck, how will I ever beat it?
>oh right
>activate celery, spam left click until ded
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>>344029579
Because you can use your technology to create an automatic axe that's constantly on fire to destroy everything.
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>>344025153

Carry some bloodbags Tremere gets very fucked by rat blood
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>>344029862
>blood demon in the art gallery
Oh man fuck that thing
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>>344029898
What the fuck is an automatic axe
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>>344030028
>Tremere gets very fucked by rat blood
What do you mean by that? I thought only
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>>344030028
You're talking about ventrue.
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>>344029862
That's the power of eating your greens.
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>>344025153
F8 ends your active buffs
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>>344030295
>>344030118

Fuck I got them mix up. I havent play in a long time because the fucker wont run even with the patches.

Also what are the weak points of Tremere? Only that humanity lost is double?
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>>344030536
Physical attributes at 4 max.
But who cares, firearms are superior anyway.
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>>344025153
>tremere
>what stats

get a load of this guy.

tremere are op as fuck, you simply can't fuck this up.
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>>344030639
no they aren't
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>>344030536
>Only that humanity lost is double?
That's Toreador. Like the other guy said you physical attributed are capped at 4
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>>344030885
If you intend to finish the game, fire arms are a must.
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>>344030885
Have you tried them? Especially aug and the second smg. Flamethrower simply is a legal cheat.
>200+ damage with a single scoped shot of jamie sue
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>>344030106
You know the auto-axe from Fallout 3?

Like that. A buzz saw on a stick, covered in fire.
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>>344031157
>>344031036
still not better than wildly flailing melee weapons around
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>>344030639
>>344030885
>>344031036
Firearms are really only necessary for the final boss.

Thaumaturgy even at level one can carry you the entire game.
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>>344031278
Sounds alright, maybe I'll slap some mages around as a melee tech character then
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>>344031325
With the incredibly arcane melee system, they are definitively worse than firearms.

But combat disciplines are superior regardless.

The only real times you want to use melee/brawl, are as a Gangrel and MAYBE if you're Brujah or Nosferatu using Potence.

It's bizarre, because a bladed weapon is much more dangerous than your average firearm in the actual tabletop due to aggravated damage - though a shotgun is still much more dangerous.
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>>344031157
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the flamethrower wasn't good vs. everything right? I swear, I seem to remember trying it against Ming Xiao and it being useless. Am I crazy?
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>>344031608
Yes, you are. It's the best weapon in the game with high aggravated damage.
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>>344031608
I think it took about 1/3 of her life?
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>>344031606
I thought the tabletop has that rule where firearms don't do shit to vampires
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>>344031717
Obviously, it's the best, but I'm talking about Ming Xiao specifically here. Didn't she have some sort of immunity to it or something?
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>>344031758
A shotgun to the face is still enough to be a serious threat to anyone not packing Fortitude.
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>>344031842
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3-2xs66B58
Yes, i think she can soak even some aggravated damage. But it's still the best tool against her.
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>>344031758
In Requiem it reduces the damage type but that can still pile up quick.
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>>344025153
How do I run this vaporware on winblows 8.1? None of the guides worked.
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>>344032497
By first learning what vaporware means
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Who's the weakest clan in your opinion?
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>>344028916
>Damsel best grill
Good taste anon
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>>344032312
Ah. Yeah, I guess it's still effective. I suppose I must have been surprised by how little damage it did to her, compared to other enemies I used it against and decided it was useless. My bad.
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>>344032819
Likewise kindred
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Postan a couple of /tg/ stories
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>>344032819
That should be "you and me"
What a dumb cunt
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>>344033608
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>>344033709
Didn't do well in school did we Cammy?
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>>344025675
have you considered suicide? The way you play videogames seems very sub-optimal.
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>>344033852
I was just making a joke but are you now actually trying to tell me "between you and I" is correct?
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>>344028916
Absolutely best.
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>>344033984
If we're being strict on grammar then yes.
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>>344032796
Just in terms of combat, and only in the game:

Tremere > Gangrel > Toreador > Brujah > Nosferatu = Malkavian > Ventrue
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>>344029330
It's pretty good song.
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>>344034363
Just because English got rid of grammatical cases doesn't mean "you and I" is always correct
Just look at some slightly different examples
>between I and you
>between you and he
>between him and you
>between him and me
Which of these seem correct? I can't think of any examples where "you and I" is correct if that phrase is an object of a sentence instead of being the subject
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>>344034379
Not him, but if you know your way around the combat, Melee Nosferatu is the fastest. Celerity clans are pretty low because celerity slows down combat significantly, with the tradeoff being easier combat. Second fastest would probably be Gangrel.
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>>344029330
Beach song?
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Therese is my yandere waifu.
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>>344034840
Stop sperguing over hypercorrections, english is a shitty language anyways
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>>344035181
Celerity for Toreador is for firearms due to Auspex.

Both Tory and Brujah have the triple threat of popping Clerity + Auspex/Potence + Presence for a pretty impressive blitz, which edges them over Malkavians who have to alternate between Auspex gunplay and Dementation, and Nosferatu who can only alternate between bashing and maybe Animalism.
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Why's the player character so strong? What generation are we?
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Damsel is a dumb commie
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>>344036453
Diablerie, of course
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>>344036610
>not even wanting to hatefuck her as she calls you a fucking cammy
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>>344036086
Celerity makes combat easier, like you said, but not faster. Celerity slows down movement significantly in real time The reason I rank Nos and Gangrel so high in my playthroughs is because they have animalism. Dots 3 and 4 are kill skills that you can alternate between immediately to kill 2 trash mobs at once without doing anything more than turning your camera to them and without losing blood (literally better than thaumaturgy, and faster). You can use level 5 animalism to stun and damage bosses for a long time. Potence along with a male PC and a katana (male PCs can spam the first katana hit very fast, indefinitely, for extremely high dps) allows you to rip and tear anything in your way very fast. My fastest combat playthroughs have been with Animalism and Potence Nos, by far.
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>played game like 5 times
>still have no idea about that entire sarcophagus mystery
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>>344036453
Based on the stat spreads, eighth.

Last thread I did the math, and LaCroix is at least a seventh generation vampire, as the sheriff has to be a seventh gen to pull of the shit he does at the end.

Beckett is seventh, Jack is 10th (but much older than you, which is also factored in terms of vampire superiority).

>>344036997
I don't really equate speed with strength though.

And basic level 1 Thaumaturgy kills everything except other vampires while restoring blood so I don't see how it's worse.
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>>344037249
OPEN IT FAGGOT
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>>344036923
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>OMG you have to play a Malk, they are sooo funnay! XD!!11
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>>344037594
I mean, more you play, there are more questions than answers
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>>344025153
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU1-N7_z5V8

this guy knows his shit altough he talks in a weird manner

you google avoiding fucking autist
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>>344038173
It's not about funny you retard they are liked because of their insight and versatile build options.
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How much xp can you get in the game?
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>>344038173
Malk female is best PC option, famigliaroni.
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>>344038979
I guess that makes sense. but I couldnt stand the lolrandom dialog and quit before leaving Sta. Monica
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Are there mods for this game? I remember playing it ages ago.

>>344039061
Why female specifically?
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>>344038876
>stahmeeena
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>>344039061
Is she the only one PC that affected by "money" cheat?
I tried it on ventrue chick with no effect.
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>>344039347
>Why female specifically?

It's hot.
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Blood purge is the best power in the game. There are like 3 or 4 boss characters very late in the game who are imune to it. The rest of enemies will just get on their knees and let you have your way with them.

So don't overdo it with spending points on combat. Just make a jack of all trades master of none kind of a character and complete whatever the quest you want.

IRC the only way to make blood strikes stronger is by obtaining an amulet from Maximilian Strauss which he will give you for doing his quests.
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>>344039347
Male Malk is silly looking.

Female Malk goes through stripper gear and ends up with Matrix clothes.

>>344039345
Please chill out.

The dialog isn't really that lolsorandom. All of it makes sense with a modicum of though, it's just literally obfuscated by a riddle structure.

The only lolsorandum thing you do is argue with a stop sign.
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>>344029330
>Best song
My Kindred.
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>have to kill Xiao
>all those chinks attacking me at once
>even with celerity I do like 27 dmg
Even that building filled with Sabbath thugs using shotguns and tmp was easier
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Is there any reason to even get a lot of points in the skills affected by blood buff?
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>>344039624
>best power in the game
>some bosses are simply immune to it
I think even presence is better cause it works even against bosses.
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>Probably the most buggy and unfinished game in history.
>/v/ loves it.
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>>344040248
Nobody said that it was flawless.
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>>344040248
Unpolished gem is better than polished shit.
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>>344040248
whatcha gonna do about it, kid?
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>>344040248
>what is community patch
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>>344040159
At what level does it start to be useful?

When I played a Torreador I had it at level 3 or 4 and it still did not work more often than it did.

Blood purge is just a level 2 power and it works with just those few exceptions every single time. No random calculations on whether the enemies will be stunned or not. Besides hitting enemies when they are stunned by Blood purge won't release them from the stun. Can presence do that too?
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Here are tips for minmaxing:

Don't put your Computer, Stealth, Dodge, or Firearms stats at anything higher than 1. You can find skill books very early in the game, before those stats are even necessary, that will bump them up to 2; you have to keep them at 1, because otherwise it won't raise the points. There are other skill books you could carefully spend around, they're all around 3 or 4 in each stat at max before you can't learn anything from them, or require insane amounts of Scholarship.

Like the skill books, there are three people in the game that will raise your stats. Nines will teach you a point in Brawl, but only if your stat is less than 3. Nines, Romero, and Bertram will teach you a point in Melee, Firearms and Computer, respectively, but only if your stat is less than 4. There is a trick however you can use, I only know it works for Romero, where you keep your skill at 3, begin the dialogue where he will teach you the skill, go into the character sheet and use experience to bump it to 4, and then he will raise it to the max of 5; I have no idea if you can pull this on Bert or Nines.

Don't bother raising your Charisma, Dexterity, Wits, Security, or Melee to 5; if you want to max them out, raise them to 4. You will be able to get occult items that raise the stat, but only from its current position.

In theory, you only have to spend 2 points in Melee, as long as you have 5 Scholarship. Snatch up the the skillbook in the apartment complex Downtown, have Nines teach you a point, then get the Heart of Eliza from Mr. Ox.
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>>344040735
>You only need to mod the game and it becomes playable.
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>>344041098
>patch makes my criticism irrelevant
>complain about patch
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>Jack giving you shit for cheating
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>>344041024
I'm talking about stat reducing, not stun effect.
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>>344041793
fucking kek, I only recently discovered that. It's amazing how many little things you can even now discover by replaying the game after all this time.
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>>344041098
>That amount of autism
Are you malk, by any chance?
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>>344041968
Well, even with reduced stats, the enemies still pose some danger. Blood purged enemies puking blood on their knees don't.
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>>344025153
VtM:B was fucking great. Easily one of the best RPGs ever.

Why isn't there more stuff with the World of Darkness?
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>>344029330
>not hollywood theme
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>>344043457
This is the best instrumental track. The unused Downtown theme is good too.

The whole damn soundtrack was great.
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How the fuck Jack plants c4 in sarcophagus ?
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>>344043702

That's why the crew of the ship were dead. Jack killed them, opened the sarcophagus, planted the C4, closed it and left.
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>>344043702
He was one of the guys who were constantly fucking with the sarcophagus. That thing was handle by tons of people and changed hands a bunch of times.
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>>344043702
How the fuck post you on 4chan and learn not any grammar?
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Reminer that unused themes were better than final ones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtePDJLimFw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq90bvH51oI
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>>344043702
More interesting who find the sarcophagus in a first place. That archeologist received a hint from someone.
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>>344033608
lol i had a game were some girl who never played pnp and was put into the game with her bf tried this mary sue shit. it ended with every vampire fighting each other and a blood hunt on us just cause she said i should be nicer and when i did she got pissed.


to be fair i placed bombs in the meeting and killed 90% of the people there.
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>>344040084
on unofficial plus you get +2 stats from blood buff.
Also you need 8 lockpick in certain place when you cannot use bloodbuff.
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>>344045178
But you can use bloodbuff in elysium zones.
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>>344029330
I thought they were saying A Smiling God.
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>>344045479
I played on patch plus I suppose.
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The thing to remember with Tremere is to do that purple rune quest thing as soon as possible when getting to LA for the first time.

The quest leads to a new apartment. You might miss it otherwise.
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I just got gifted this game and I have a few questions, at work right now so I can't test much, but my questions are...

>Will this game need mods in order to run?
>Is this an RPG FPS?
>Is it long?

I know little to nothing about the game besides the fact that everyone says it's amazing.
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What clan pick /v/
without community patches, only official.
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>>344046358
Tremere.
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>>344046420
b-but it is easy mode.
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>>344046082
>>Will this game need mods in order to run?
An unofficial patch
>>Is this an RPG FPS?
I guess, you can play it third person to make melee easier
>>Is it long?
http://howlongtobeat.com/
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dont focus only on social shit or youre FUCKED in the last 1/3rd of the game
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>>344046358
>without community patches

this game sucks without the restored content, you can't even pick your character story
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>>344043432

because WoD is dead

the new nWoD is twilight-style vampires
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>>344046358
If dubs
>Gangrel
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I've never played this. Convince me to buy it, /v/. Please
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just got this

what patches, mods and graphics updates should I install?
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>>344046480
Game is easy anyway with any clan.
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>>344046830
It's best 30h for cheap dirt.
I've finished this game 3 times.
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>>344046864
just download the latest unofficial patch the only mods worth mentioning like Clan Quest, Camarilla or Final Nights are both mediocre and lore raping
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>>344046358
>without community patches
You literally cannot complete the game with the official patches only you stupid faggot. Use the unofficial patch and stop trying to be a special snowflake.

Pick whatever you want so you can roleplay the best, anything except for malk.
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>>344046830
Don't buy it. Developers are long dead, you're only giving money to their killers. Pirate it.

This way you also won't feel buyer's remorse if you don't like it.
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>>344046480
Go with a Malkavian then. It's quite likely the weakest clan in the game.
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>>344047465
>You literally cannot complete the game with the official patches only
Who started this meme, wesp?
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What are your favorite mods?
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>>344047548
Ive played first as Malk you just go invis and kill everything.
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>>344047473
Oh, I remember hearing that the company died after making this game. I was wondering who gets the $ from the sales. Well, if it's Activision, I'm definitely not fucking buying it. Thanks for the image.
Can you link a good torrent?
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>>344047548
>has obfuscate
>has dementation
>weakest

retard
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>>344047643
this is why Clan Quest is fucking cancer
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>>344048076
So which clan is even weaker and takes more skill to play?
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>>344047548
That would be Ventrue, Malk has a lot of tricks up its sleeves.

Though Malk, statistically, would be a good starter clan if only because you can spec lots of ways.

Toreador and Brujah are clearly the basic clans anyway, based on whether you want to be talky-shooty or talky-punchy.
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>>344048315
Ventrue is the weakest by far.
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>>344048315
>Venture
>Toreador
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>>344048797
Toreador has Celerity which is broken Gangrel on the other hand are just worse Brujah.
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>>344048315
Ventrue for combat.

You have to have 3 levels in Dominate before it is effective as a killing move (even then it barely works on anything more than random mooks). Fortitude and Presence increase your longevity but don't make combat any easier.

Literally all the other clans have some discipline or another that makes them more dangerous in combat. Not Ventrue.

Storywise though, Ventrue are primed for talking vampires and can use Dominate as much as they want in dialogue, so they're easy mode there. Hard mode for speaking would be Nos.

I think weakest skillmonkeys are Brujah.
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>>344048908
Ventrue melee is great. Presence and Fortitude makes you untouchable
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>>344048871
>Gangrel on the other hand are just worse Brujah.

*Just better Brujah

FTFY, Feral Claws is MUCH better than Potence.
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>>344047585
The people who crashed so frequently with patch 1.2 that they quit the game and helped contribute to creating the UP.
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How exactly ventrue character benefits from his "more accepted by other camarilla" merit?
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>>344048352
>>344048797
Ventrue has both Presence and Fortitude. Ain't nobody hurting that guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irVIFxuW0M4

Torreador and Brujah have Celerity. One of the most broken powers in the game.
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>>344049069
My first run with 1.2 no problem at all. I finished game with 1.2.
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>>344049007
Feel like I mentioned that, still leaves you weakly whacking your enemies without any way to get stronger.
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>>344049156
Again, feel like I said that in my post.

The game just basically has tiers of easy mode, which is pretty ironic considering that the biggest complaint is the combat.
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>>344049007
I went full firearms with ventrue.
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>>344049319
You probably had an easier time than him. At least with Ventrue, there really is no reason to go Firearms or Melee since they don't get a discipline that favors one or the other, but guns are so much easier.

Basically sitting there ignoring all bullets while pouring lead into the enemy seems pretty relaxing.
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>>344049515
>Basically sitting there ignoring all bullets while pouring lead into the enemy seems pretty relaxing
Exactly how it is going. Only bosses can disrupt your aim for a moment.
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Tremere cannot smash someone with hands? Or another funny bug?
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>>344025675
have you ever considered that having a sub-optimally build is part of a roleplaying experience rather than going a "perfect way" playing through the game as mary sue or chad thundercock ?
maybe its just me but your character having flaws also adds to your character
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>>344047643
That shit is not even a little like the legit Malk text. It's just memes
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>>344050342
Malkavians have always been memes
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>>344050028
I have never gotten anything akin to interest out of someone's flaws.
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>>344043702
How much humanity did he lose? Killing those sailors.
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>>344051290
Zero, potentially. If that's not the most heinous thing he's ever done then it wouldn't even require a check. Even if it were, if he made the willpower roll he wouldn't lose any.
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Humanity is a meme on my Brujah playthrough I was murdering bums and whores, had almost no humanity and saw no difference. What if I lose it all? Perma frenzy?
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Whatever you do make sure you don't overlevel your skills and miss out on skills books.

I know it's tempting to level your combat skills right off the bat but it's the price for optimizing your character.
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>>344051761
Was the whole event set up to get rid of Lacroix?
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>>344051930
Yes
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>>344051290

I think Jack used to be a pirate. Do you even lose humanity if you used to kill people as a human?
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>>344050598
no
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>>344048797
You've never played ranged Toreador with maxed out Celerity and Auspex if you believe they're weak.
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>>344052354
You would start with a lower Humanity when embraced. Humans don't have a system for Humanity like Kindred iirc since they don't have a Beast.
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>>344052354
Smiling Jack has a Humanity of 4.

Around that level is the point where even wanton violence doesn't impact your morality. You have to be senselessly, needlessly cruel to lose humanity.

Killing a bunch of guards to get what you want isn't that, so he's still smiling.
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>>344053337
I think if you have Humanity 10, you're either literally human or in a state of Golconda (though you can drop to at least 7, which according to the wiki allows theft).
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I got it during the Steam sale and I've read about the various bugs and the unofficial patch but what's best to use, the basic patch or the plus patch with the reinstated content? Does the reinstated content ruin it or make it better?
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>>344054213
>Does the reinstated content ruin it or make it better?

It literally just adds stuff that was supposed to be in it in the first place. There is no reason to get it.

I'd scorn you for buying it instead of pirating it, but I did the same thing.
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>>344054340
I think some stuff like blood heal is questionable.
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>>344054060
It's very difficult to stay at 10 Humanity since having even a selfish thought would require a willpower check.
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>>344054791
Ayup, which is why it never lasts, usually due to the predatory nature of other vampires.

Pretty much only the most pious of Salubri (not even their antediluvian when he wasn't inside of Tremere) could manage that. And now they're all either dead or so pissed their humanity is probably hovering at around 4.
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>>344054664
Why, exactly?
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>>344054340
Well, it's too late, I bought it. The only thing I can do now is enjoy it. I'll play with the basic patch first then if I want to I'll install the plus patch.
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>>344055134
You can heal during fights even without feeding.
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>>344055446
>You can heal during fights even without feeding.

You mean the optional feature which accurately reflects mechanics from the source?
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Should I bother with Potence?
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>>344055946
It just make boss fights a lot easier. CRPG can be different from its tabletop analog.
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>>344034345
JOKES ON YOU ANON

i didn't uninstall vtmb since last year and last playthrough
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>>344056765
>Should I bother with melee damage in the melee damage class?
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>>344056980
>It just make boss fights a lot easier.

Then don't use it. All the disciplines make the boss fights trivial, don't use them either. Also don't use weapons, those make it a bit too easy. Just fists, but make sure you never increase you brawl, makes the game too easy.

I will never understand you people.
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>>344046358
Toreador.
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What are some good Let's Plays of this game /v/? I'm stuck at home sick and need to kill some time.
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>activate Celerity again
>nothing happens
>lose blood anyway
What the fuck is this bullshit
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>>344058387
The duration stacks if I remember right so you don't waste blood.
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>>344033932
/thread
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>>344057375
I still think troika doesn't put this discipline on purpose.
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>hey baby, looking for a date?

Excuse me you but I wouldn't call sucking my cock in some piss stained dark valley a date you rancid whore. This is exactly why I murder hookers these sluts are nothing more than perverted cunt bitches. God hates them.
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>>344061070
Edgy.
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>>344061070
Just stop whining, fuck her and then suck her blood, you wretch.
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>>344025153
Oh my god I've been playing it for the first time.

Oh my god they're one and the same?
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>>344061070
Calm your tits man

They're just doing their job
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>>344025910
>yfw the series licence is now owned by Paradox after they bought it from CCCP.
>yfw a new game has been trademarked as "third person adventure"

New game is coming.
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>>344061070
What you describe is what I do in GTA V as Michael at night as he cruises the city looking for whores in his murder kit after another day of a cunt wife and whore daughter.

>tfw we both have issues
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