...and so Liquid Snake, Psycho Mantis Jr. and a bunch of African child soldiers stole the most advanced weapon in the history of mankind and nobody ever talked about that ever again and they all lived happily ever after.
The end.WHAT THE FUCK?!
You feeling it, OP? The phantom pain.
Did u rike it?
>tfw the credits started roll
I thought I was being trolled or maybe it was like with the missions and I'm getting credits to reaching the halfway point.
Jesus Christ
>>344018853
>even fucking peace walker was a more satisfying game
Why kojimbles
This is what happens when you suck at time and content management and then you lie to your producers about when the game will be done.
>>344018509
>>344018669
>>344018823
I cant describe in words how mad the ending made me. The game itself is easily one of my favorites gameplay wise... I loved it... I am a huge fan of the "cinematic" MGS (I actually liked the long ass cutscenes.... so not having good cutscenes with voice acting made me die a little, and the ending or lack there of was the last bullet to my head that finished me off...
The really did play us like a damn fiddle...
>Game was supposed to bridge MGS and MG and answer the last questions.
>Instead opens up a whole new can of bullshit.
>Leaves you with way more questions than you started with.
>>344019408
What fucking questions? Did anybody really care about how Big Boss lived?
InB4 hurrr the Lord of the Flies cut content on Youtube explains what happens afterwards
The story in this game is such a mess
>>344019185
MGSV is, without a single doubt, the most disappointing piece of media I have ever consumed. And that's saying a lot.
Watch the "gameplay and cutscene" of them chasing Eli to a remote island to get it back. While not wholly satisfying and not an excuse to say the game was good, it explains the rest of it. Even if the story is a mess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HJaUGVfqGDc#t=44
>tfw you got played like fiddle
>>344019595
Same with me. It was the most anticipated game ever for me, so when it disappointed, it disappointed hard.
>tfw MGS ends not with a bang, but a whimper
>>344019557
I know right? It's not like the series revolved around him or anything
>>344018509
IT'S NOT OVER YET!
>>344019595
>>344019705
Yup. The MGS series has been one of my favorite series ever. I have no idea why but the story in MGS1, 2, 3, 4 were my favorite (4 was kinda meh...)
So i was looknig forward to 5 being the ifnal EPIC chapter.... I expected wed see alot of stuff tieing into other metal gears (like how they showed Physcho mantis come) thought wed see "big boss" save sniper wold.... Somehow see Solid Snake.... Grey Fox....
The game had SO MUCH potential.... I know Kojima is being a pre-madonna with everything he wanted and Konami literally giving 0 fucks and said fuck gaming... SO FUCKING SALTY
>>344019809
Don't get sassy, anon. NOBODY was asking "how the fuck did he live?" because it was just another strange occurance. Everyone just accepted it.
You know what really hurts?
Imagining what the game could have been.
>BB going nuclear.
>Missions become more and more atrocious.
>Start building Outer Heaven.
>Reports come in about an intruder.
>Young Solid Snake is infiltrating your base.
>MG plays out of from BBs perspective.
>Final boss fight of the series is the first final boss fight from MG in reverse.
>You get your shit slapped by SS and the games go full circle.
>>344019705
I still remember back in Fall 2012, watching the Ground Zeroes trailer and being hyped as fuck. Then saw The Phantom Pain 2013 E3 trailer and was more hyped. Then beat the game in Fall 2015 and was indifferent.
It was pretty depressing thinking about the good memories playing MGS in 1999 and being hyped for the sequels afterwards. and now this is how the series ends...
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>>344019705
I was lucky enough to not get overly hyped. I was excited, but as soon as all the bs with Kojima V. Konami I toned it back a bit. Still has some of the best gameplay mechanics in the series.
>>344019735Press F to pay respects.
>>344019862
FUCK
YOU
>>344020509
>MG plays out from BB's perspective
>You stand in a room for ages occasionally using a telephone.
sounds great
>>344020125
I was quite interested in BB since the first MGS game, especially that conversation between Snake and Naomi about him. He was more mysterious at that time so playing MGS3 made me like him even more than Snake. Although his character was ruined in PW with all the dumb shit he says.
>>344018509
It's clearly a brilliant metaphor for the hubris of historians. Kojima is saying that most of history goes unnoticed. In our arrogance we assume all the available facts are causally related in order to maintain the comforting illusion of knowledge, but alas this is not so. What happened to Selanthropus is what happened to most everyone: no one knows.
>Super fun sandbox stealth gameplay
>Picking how you want to play a mission
>Playing in MGS3 mode where I have no equipment or buddy and I have to scavenge everything
>Fun PVP mode
But
>Shitty plot that leaves me with so many fucking questions
>The plot left me wanting a better story that finally ties together the whole series
>KONAMI hates kojima so he'll never get the rights for a new game
>It's all over
Why does it hurt so much /V/?
>>344020758
I don't think it should include the Snake vs BB fight either. Video game fights that you're supposed to lose aren't fun, and there's always that autist that figures out how to win despite the odds anyways.
The ending we got (learning about Intrude N313 while the base alarm goes off and you hear gunfire in the background) wasn't bad on paper, but the execution along with the sudden "hey you aren't actually big boss" bombshell drop ruined it.
Should have stuck with his plan of using Huey as an unreliable narrator.
The game wasn't finished.
>>344018509
Kojima hasn't put out a decent game since MGS3.
He's george lucas.
>>344021223
You don't say.
>>344020093
I honestly thought Quiet would be Sniper Wolf
>>344018669
>mfw he LITERALLY said this
>This work is not a “phantom pain”, but is a story of “loss”. More than the final MGS, it is a story about how readers who have lost their heroes and legends, afterwards how they face their “phantom pains”
https://www.reddit.com/r/metalgearsolid/comments/3q4h85/kojimas_thoughts_about_the_novelization_and_the/?utm_source=mweb_redirect&compact=true
>>344021223
Because he went full retard with the budget and had nothing to show for it, so they axed it and tried to make a game out of the trash he left them.
>>344019408
Every single detail given after MGS3 about BB was absolutely not required.
>What we knew
Big Boss had to kill his mee maw, showed dissatisfaction at being a government pawn, it's likely this led in to his mercenary work, Outer Heaven, etc
>What we didnt need to know
The THREE PMC companies he had before that
How he met Ocelot again
The details of all the weapons he made before the original MG
His jaunts with Vocaloid robots
That time he became Vic Boss
That time he met Miller, had a good relationship with him, yet throwing in at the end why Miller dislikes him twenty years later
That time he met Otacons dad
That girl he quite liked who betrayed him and died
Etc
Feel free to add to this list everything that was thrown in for no fucking reason
>>344021156
The trailer where Kaz asks "what about him?" Pretty much gave away the surprise
>>344018509
I'm playing the game right now.
I really like it for now, but it seems that the second part of the game consist on playing all previous missions on an extra-difficult mode.
Is this a real thing or what ? I don't get the point, do the game really recycles all its missions in the middle of story mode ?
>>344021492
How about
>MGS: anything on a vita
>MGS IV
>MGS V - The fleshed out demo for 30 dollars
>MGS V The Reel Deal: BAIT AND SWITCH EDITION
>>344020976
>In our arrogance we assume all the available facts are causally related in order to maintain the comforting illusion of knowledge
I will use this excuse when I submit my incomplete essay to my professor tomorrow.
>>344019735
Blame Konami and those old Japanese businessmen
>>344021683
yes.
>>344021356
I wonder why people are hyped for his 2deep4you art project of a game when he says insane bullshit like this so he doesn't admit that he fucked up, this fucker is another Inafune in the making
>>344021775
I blame Kojima for his absolute abortion with millions of dollars used an nothing to show for it.
>>344018509
The game had some of the most epic moments of any game ever. But yes the phantom pain is strong within me.
The game was not finished.Dat Sahelanthropus presence in the world though
>>344021683
Pretty much
>>344021795
Well... Shit.
I heard the game was repetitive but I thought it was all about secondary missions objectives. I really didn't expect something like that.
>>344021356
The prerentious players that gobble this shit up and call it a masterpiece can go fuck themselves too
>>344022027
welcome to the shitstorm
>>344022027
Neither did I, after spending 60 dollars.
>>344022027
Feel the phantom pain yet?
>>344021492
Skullface
>>344022078
I spent $80 on mine as a day one edition. It came with an ugly blue camo suit, a slightly powerful handgun, and camo cardboard boxes and a DD riot shield
>>344022275
>I spent $80 on mine as a day one edition
wait, so did i but it cost the same as the regular edition ($60). you canadian or something?
>>344022497
Here too all "normal" versions are collectors editions or some shit.
>>344022497
Yes I'm a leaf and our exchange rate sucks
>>344021919
this sort of ruins it, actually. It already had a decent design (anthropomorphic, wide thighs, big hips, cock cannon) but this destroys the tastefully done design.
Is it just me or do the camo suits in MGSV seem completely useless compared to the ones in MGS3?
>>344021492
The vocal parasites PERIOD
The Cobra Unit all getting their powers from parasites
Baby Mantis and Baby Liquid being childhood friends and growing up together(?)
Skullface being there in the background during the events of MGS3
Everything from PW
>>344022784
don't worry, you're progressive now. Your prime minister did the right thing and apologized for criticizing "honor killings". Also, you all can smoke weed
>>344022783
>>344022784
im sorry guys. i also heard things have only gotten worst with your new president or something
>day one edition still in stock everywhere
no wonder konami are angry, this game must have sold like shit
I wonder if MGS will have a reboot at some point
>>344023393
>no wonder konami are angry, this game must have sold like shit
come on anon... you know thats not true
>http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/01/29/metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain-sales-reaches-six-million-copies-shipped/
>>344021775
blame kojima for fucking around with a budget of 80 million dollars
>>344023759
>6 million copies shipped
> all the day one editions still in stores right now
they might have shipped but they didn't sell
>>344023374
Our PM is basically another Angela Merkel.
>>344023759
>shipped
>>344023759
>Unfinished game
>10
>>344023941
You all voted for him. I don't have any sympathy.
>Having a nice day.
>Suddenly remember MGSV's story exists.
>Ruins my day instantly.
>>344019862
PULL THE LEVER
>>344022069
I like to believe it was all part of his plan and the ruse train never stops. It's an idea that suits the available evidence.
>>344018509
Diamond Dogs destroy it. The end timeline shows they do at part where it mentions Eli's Lord of the Flies bit.
watch episode 51
>>344024382
Do you feel it anon?
>>344023491
There are more tapes about the wolbachia than there are stolen bikes in my backyard - black science guy
>>344024481
Note: Metal Gear died on his way back to his home planet
>>344024365
I didn't vote for him
>>344021492
all those fucking audio tapes. i mean christ! tapes are nice but you reach a certain point where you KNOW devs just didnt feel like animating custscenes and just outed for just audio
>>344018509
They lost it in a tragic boating accident.
Will be explained in MGSVI: The Pachinko Dilemma. It explains the origins of who found Snake in Alaska before MGS, finally completing the story we have all been waiting for.
>>344024836
It's staggering to think that they were still recording tapes in January of 2015.
What the fuck were they doing during this dev cycle?
>>344024980
taking pics of Joostens feet
>>344018509
Kojihackfraud ran out of budgetand posibly ideas too
>>344021492
The vocal cord parasites is one of the dumbest, and my personal least favorite plot device in any MGS game ever made. More than the reverse technological advancement, gay vampires or the body double.
>summoning giant, flaming whales to destroy helicopters with your vocal cord parasites
Just call it magic and be done with it.
>>344024836
>What happened to Eli and Sally? - 1 tape (2min)
>Wolbachia - 6 tapes (8 minutes each)
Thanks Kojima
>>344024980
Why is that staggering? It's normal for audio recording to go on throughout development.
>>344020093
Sorry but you should have played Peace Walker first. I follow this series since MGS and 4 was the end, that's how it felt.
V is announced, bought the HD collection and after i played Peace Walker and saw V gameplay i instantly knew it was going to be shit. Anyone who expected different were only fooling themselves or just didn't knew any better for lack of information. A playthrough of PW was enough to inform you about what was coming.
>>344025228
>and posibly ideas too
have you not been reading the thread? there's SCORES of ideas he gone with. especially pre-release when anons were trying to guess at what the story was gonna be about.
Kojima is simply just a hack and Tomokazu Fukushima was the real brains behind the series. hence why he left after MGS3 which is arguable the last good MGS game
>>344025828
I don't know man, MG2 was great and Fukushima had nothing to do with it.
ok
>>344018509
Venom went in, the kids died, destroyed the Sahelanthropus it, and left Liquid to his dead, but Psycho Mantis saved him.
>>344021383
Honestly, the moment they made it open world they went full retard. Nobody asked for that.
>>344021683
you actually dont have to do the repeat missions to complete the game. They are pretty much optional. However, if you don't do the repeat missions, you will realize that you only have like 5 real missions left. Chapter 1 is 90% of the game. Chapter 2 is the final 10% in addition to post game stuff like the repeat missions.
Yes, this is communicated extremely poorly by kojima and co.
>>344019595
>the most disappointing piece of media I have ever consumed
You know an industry is completely dead when people who are not guys in suits speak like this.
I'm ashamed there's such pedantic fucks among us.
>>344025828
>Tomokazu Fukushima was the real brains behind the series
Its actually hilarious how one idiot started saying this and now everyone believes it to be gospel.
>>344018509
>Friends since they were kids
>They practically founded the terrorist group together
>Psycho Mantis calls Liquid "boss" and acts like a subordinate the whole MGS1
>No relationship between them at all after all these years
>>344025828
>Kojima is simply just a hack and Tomokazu Fukushima was the real brains behind the series
According to a bunch of irrelevant /v/edditors who inmediatly started pointing fingers even though nobody knew who Tomokazu Fukushima was until someone wanted to blame why MGS was even worse than MGS1, 2 and 3, and saw he dropped out after MGS3.
Nobody knows who he was, what he did, or his role in the writing.
Then again, we are talking about a fanbase who, more than once, has unironically stated than a literally-who foreign model in Japan who never did anything but restaurant-menu ad photos earned 30 times more money for MGSV than Kiefer Sutherland, a well established actor in Hollywood.
Nobody in this board has any credibility since people take asspulls as facts and nobody provides sources.
People just lie to get angrier at a videogame, which is really pathetic, but if it had to be somewhere, it had to be /v/ where this had to happen.
>>344026689
This.
It's also hilarious how the moment MGSV came out, suddenly people started unironically defending MGS4, or even mentioning how good Ghost Babel was, even though these two games are only mentioned in MGSV hate threads, and Ghost Babel has never had any discussion in this board ever.
This place is so full of posers.
>>344024836
>That Code Talker interrogation by Skull Face where the audio tape goes into slow motion
>>344024382
Must be sad being that much of a neckbeard virgin.
>>344018509
Yeah, cut content is rough. The people that worked on this were upset too, and just released what was going to happen on YouTube.
>>344023393
Konami stated that MGSV made more than twice it's budget in less than 24 hours.
https://www.vg247.com/2015/10/15/metal-gear-solid-5-made-twice-as-much-as-avengers-age-of-ultron-on-launch-day/
In my opinion chapter 2 doesn't really reveal that the game was unfinished, but rather that the development was messy.
If you look at the amount of important missions relegated to side ops and then look at how often Kojima spoke about the player progressing the story organically and non linearly I think it pretty much shows that at some point the decision was made to switch from that organic system of discovering missions in the open world to selecting them from a list.
I also suspect that's why 99% of the missions have a jarringly bad helicopter introduction with Kaz briefing you, would that have felt so out of place if Kaz was briefing you in the open world? Would the tapes have been as insulting if you had spent any amount of time away from Mother Base?
My entirely speculative and baseless claim is that this approach wasn't compatible with the old gen release that Konami pushed for. Hence the system we have now, where the open world is under-utilised and basically pointless despite being a major part of the marketing.
Having to restructure the way the game worked pretty dramatically like that would account for the fact that they managed to spend so much time in development without really accomplishing anything.
>>344026771
>>344026920
>>344026689
it's almost as if something else is going on here. a type of reproduction but with words and ideas. constantly perpetuating...
>>344023393
>>344025828
I love how practically everyone who shits on MGSV just starts spouting lies to shit on MGSV harder.
Surprised there's no one saying Joosten is the reason MGSV sucked because they paid her 60 million dollars or something.
>>344027269
Yes, it's called Zelda cycle: shit on the newest game, praise the previous one.
The moment MGS6 and/or Death Stranding come out, everyone here will automatically deem MGSV an underrated gem, a diamond in the rough, and start talking about how comfy Motherbase and Afghanistan were, all while shitting on the newer game.
MGS4 was maybe the worst ending to a franchise i've ever seen, and now people defend it, hell, MGS2 is now considered a ''post modern masterpiece'' or some shit like that, of course they'll start defending MGSV.
>>344027316
I didn't spout lies. You can buy a brand new, sealed copy of the day one edition of MGSV TPP on amazon right now. It's still in stock.
>KONAMI FAULT!!!
Kojimacucks are pathetic
>>344027316
>>344027483
I can break down in explicit detail on why both MGSV and MGS4 are bad games, but I do respect them both for what he was trying to do concerning theme
>>344027498
It still sold a fuckload.
Hell, in my store there's still Black Ops 3 special editions everywhere.
Very few people still buy these editions from physical stores instead of just throughout the internet because they think it's not going to be available at the store.
Ironically, everyone thinks like that, and they all end up in the store getting dust.
>>344025454
>summoning giant, flaming whales to destroy helicopters with your vocal cord parasites
That was just Mantis using psychokinesis.
>>344027316
Are we just going to pretend like she isn't worth it?
>>344027621
I don't care.
What's important is that Konami is no longer relevant to this industry, they are practically dead regarding Triple A games, MGS is finally dead, and Kojima is on a company he likes, everything went right.
>>344025454
>Just call it magic and be done with it.
That was Psycho Mantis, and is the one that is just outright magic.
>>344020093
You were disaapointed for the worst reasons
>>344027483
>This faggot again
Gee it's almost like MGSV is SO BAD that it makes MGS4 amazing in comparison.
>>344020509
Don't like what we got, but I don't like that either.
So predictable I probably wouldn't even have finished it out of boredom.
>>344026920
This. I've seen more love for Ac!d games than for GB.
They're all good, though. I don't think there's one outright bad MG game.Yes, even PO.
>>344027918
And then Death Stranding will be so bad that it makes MGSV look good, and people will start defending it.
Zelda cycle.
These threads are just a reminder of how many poser, thick-glassed, yearly-iPhone buyer hipsters are in this board.
Yes kdis, the popular game is bad, and the one not even it's creator remembers is pure GOTY.
>>344028102
The only bad part of PO is the aiming controls which can be remapped to use the analog anyway.
Anyone who complains about dragging soldiers is retarded since you have to do it less than 5 times in the entire story.
>>344018509
Oh gee a game started by Kojima and finished by Konami has an incomplete ending who would have a fucking guessed. God people on this board are so fucking stupid.
>b-b-but Master Kojima finished the game...
Shut the fuck up no he didn't he was long gone otherwise the game would have been finished, news flash when a company say's some high profile person is fired chances are it happened, was discussed and known within the company weeks ago chirst we knew about it here.
>>344028108
That wont happen though, because with that game people are already wary of his bullshit and its not a MGS game so why should it be compared to MGS? The most that will happen is that it will be shown that Kojima really is the fraud we are saying he is, stop trying to predict the fucking future you goddamn cocklicking drone
>>344028617
>That wont happen though, because with that game people are already wary of his bullshit
MGS4 was garbage, Peace Walker was garbage, and people fell for MGSV just because of the marketing.
If people are THIS dumb, they will fall for DS very easily.
And i'm not a drone, blame /v/ for being such a predictable echo chamber where people unironically think that the outside world shares their opinions.
>>344028792
Well all of Kojima's games have at least had good gameplay even if the story went to shit. I'm sure Death Stranding will be fun too unless they make it just another Uncharted clone.
>>344029156
Nigga what, MGSV is the only one close to decent.
The rest were clunky as fuck.
>>344024449
Yes, because when the two explanations are
>a rushed and unfinished game
and
>he MEANT it to be rushed and unfinished because he wanted you to feel phantom paiN!!!
the second one sounds a lot less bullshit. These are videogames anon. Not a Stanley Kubrick film.
whole metal gear series is shit
stop discussing things i don't like
>>344028108
Managing to make MGS worst then V would be a feat for the ages. But the again, i once felt the same about 4.
>>344029203
I completely disagree. I love all of the MGS games for their gameplay as well as story in the early ones. The boss fights in MGS1 are so fucking great. MGS2 has some great stealth and the VR missions are good. I didn't like the bosses as much though. MGS3 hits everything perfectly, the stealth, the bosses, the story it is great. MG2 is also insanely good and MG1 is pretty fun but MG2 is the best. I actually like MG2 more than MGS1.
So people know about Kojima going full retard on the budget yet they blame Konami for the uncompleted game?
>>344020509
I was thinking this might happen, but I was also thinking maybe they'd do a Hotline Miami and have you just kill Snake in the boss battle and have the game continue, going off-canon with no explanation, in a continuation of MGS2's themes.
>>344029812
Nobody knows the budget of MGSV people just assumed he went full retard with it. It's not a bad assumption but it is still only an assumption not a fact.
>>344028792
MGS4 an PW were bad but not bad as MGSV was, it had a passable tps gameplay but everything else, from story to nonexistent soundtrack, having to lean on actual musics instead of making appropriate pieces, the world itself felt shit.
No other game was this bad in the franchise, not even Snakes Revenge
>Metal Gear
>series about giant mechs and nukes
>where naked guys fight on top of a fucking mech
>where cyber ninjas cut off russian cowboys' hands
>where lonely nerdy twats fuck up multiple mechs at once
>where lonely nerdy twats have katana fights with president of the USA
>where guys with babes on motorcycles destroy tanks capable of shooting nukes
>where two mechs fight each other on ice in a legendary military base
>ended with a fucking copypasted tutorial mission and a scene in the bathroom
>>344024836
The FUCKING liquid reveal man. FUCK.
>what we got
A bland audio tape where Ocelot just tells you you arent Liquids dad. Snake has no reaction
>What we should have gotten
A tense cutscene where Snake realises he isn't the real big boss, going through all the coincidences in his head, coming to the realisation that he's a doppelganger and the fallout from this reveal.
I swear, at some point that "Nuclear" scene that didn't make the game was going to be Venom losing his shit and killing his own soldiers or something
>>344030232
Given all the music they still had to release on a separate album that contained all the scrapped music, there is precedence for that statement and that not even going into the bullshit of Episode 51, I think Konami themselves choose to release that to show the world how much of a faggot Kojima acted during development, I really fucking hope the Konami HQ and the Kojima HQ burn to the ground sometime in the future
One thing I still struggle to understand.
Why did Ocelot hypnotize himself to believe Venom was the real Snake even though he told Kaz the truth anyway?
The post credits conversation doesn't make any sense to me.
Why did Ocelot hypnotize himself? Why would he trust Kaz but not himself?
I genuinely do not get it, I'm not trolling.
>>344030595
I still wonder why Liquid was pissy with the Medic, he knew he wasn't his father, he also knew the Medic tried treating him like a man and yet he acted like a faggot for no reason
>>344020509
Then you get memers telling you that we DID witness BB's downfall and that the creation of Venom is the worst thing he ever did.
So I guess we're just meant to accept that all the interesting stuff happened offscreen while we spend 80 hours playing as a nobody doing unimportant shit in the desert.
>>344030705
To shoehorn the whole self hypnosis bullshit Ocelot has going for him in the future, of course aside from him holding a revolver in one cutscene and that bit he really isn't Ocelot at all since he never acts like him ever in the game
>>344030705
Because Kojima needed a reason for Miller to hate Snake.
There is no other way to explain it, really. Kojima is and always will be a hack.
>>344030937
This
He's literally a different character
>>344019735
Kojima must own a crystal ball.
I kind of eases my mind that even this long after the release every time MGSV comes up a sprawling thread of disappointment emerges. It's comforting to know that you're not alone with your pain.
>>344030294
Kek, it's funny how true that is.
Fuck anyone who disagrees but I loved the end to MGS4, REX vs RAY is possibly the single greatest boss battle of all time, so much build up to that one moment where you finally take control of the titular mechs and it played beautifully. Then to top of it off you had that gorgeous, nostalgic Snake vs Ocelot duel, it was a awesome end to the franchise.
MGSV though urgh, great base gameplay, terrible everything else
>>344030773
Because he hated Big Boss and his 'image', it was just like you say, him being pissy.
Still the best MGS by far. Gameplay shits all over everything else.
>>344030640
Which album?
I really, really enjoyed the gameplay and Ilikedthe story.
I think a large part of that comes from the fact that I never really got caught up in the pre-release hype and I bought the game ~5 months after it came out.
I played through it, I had boatloads of fun, and I really liked all of the cutscenes. All of the things that weren't tied up by tapes were tied up by Episode 51.
>>344030287
>story
It's a videogame, who gives a shit.
>>344031563
See?
Now people are pretending the massive piece of shit that MGS4 was was good, even the cringeworthy ''HEY REMEMBER GAMES FROM WHEN THIS FRANCHISE WAS LESS GARBAGE'' final boss.
Not to mention bringing back Big Boss form the dead a third time just so he can deliver retarded exposition, talk some shit about zeros and ones, and cry about muh boss one last time before dying to the Mary Sue whatever Foxdie was.
Awful, and pure cringe, start to finish.
Not to mention the boss fights which were just retarded girls that, after hearing a cliche war story, i'm supposed to feel bad for.
MGSV doesn't have story, but I consider that good since I didn't have to endure more of the literal cancer that the plot of this retarded franchise is.
>>344031469
Yeah, you can spend 9 months of your life crying about a videogame everyday alongside other fat virgins because you were stupid enough to fall for marketing like some kind of casual, and not even good marketing, just trailers that were just disjointed and senseless scenes and some random son on top of them.
Don't know why the MGS fanbase has that extra bit of retardation that always puts you on the top of the autism scale.
At least the franchise is dead.
>>344031791
BULLSHIT
Mechanics wise the game is great, but the game doesn't put it to good use. All you do the entire game, except for the few bossfights, is attack copy pasted outposts and either eliminate or capture something. It's boring as fuck.
>>344032476
Wow, we're all really impressed by your badassery. You really told us. Good job, Anon.
>>344032554
Fulton is the single worst design decision any developer has ever made in my opinion.
Can't think of a mechanic in any other genre or game that undermines the core premise as destructively as the Fulton does.
>>344019809
MGS3 had all we needed to know about Big Boss. PW and V were just fillers.
>>344032747
Not badassery, it's you who's retarded for falling for a shitty marketing campaign.
Kojima didn't show anything special, yet you all, for some reason, started making up retarded shit on your minds, even though he hasn't made a game higher than a 4/10 in a decade.
You are all the kind of audience that EA thrives to get, just drones who fall for cheap marketing.
We will never get a Metal Gear Liquid series where we play as Snake on his journey leading up to forming the rogue Fox Hound unit. Where we go back to Afghanistan and are trained by Ocelot to betray Big Boss's memes, but actually be succeeding them.
We'll never see the epic conclusion where he stands over Big Boss who lies dead on The Boss's headstone, and pays his respects before burying them together. Finally achieving his objective of securing the remains of his father.
I just want my crazy bullshit back. I want another run.
>>344020509
>>344020758
>MG plays out from BB's perspective
Isn't that the ending we got. It literally ends with the phantom Big Boss receiving orders of Solid Snake's mission in Outer Heaven. I don't get why everyone expected some tacky Metal Gear 1 remake as the finale. It makes more convinced that MGSfags are more mad that the game didn't play out like the fanfics in their head over any of the actually cut content.Cutting out Kingdom of the Flies was bullshit though.
>>344032041
Its a MGS game, you should give a shit about it if you are a fan
>>344033902
I love the stealth mechanics and the gameplay, but the story has always been unredeemable garbage.
>>344032335
Cry some more nigger, people will never see MGSV as good or Kojima as anything but a hack after this fuck up
>>344019595
this
>>344034040
I wonder when did I read this before.
>>344034020
Except the stealth mechanics are fucking gone in MGSV, you can spring through the front of the enemy and they can fail to see you in broad daylight, for it to even have a bit of stealth you have to continuously gimp the game because anything and everything the game gives you only make a incredibly easy game even more easy
>>344034187
Keep crying
>>344034223
Yeah, it's a bit casualized, but then again, MGS has never been hard.
>>344034187
Tell me anon, was the opinion that MGS2 was bad a overwhelming thing as it is for TPP or just a few isolated cases? Be honest now we both were here around that time
>>344034529
Overwhelmingly bad.
Everyone was shitting on Raider, calling him a pussy and acting like complete retards over it.
>>344034729
Post some fucking proof then, you are the one claiming that everyone hated it back then, gotta have some facts to back it up you goddamn drone
Did Kojima become suicidal in 2015? There was no way he didn't want to kill himself after all that happened
>>344034839
What, you want me to start digging forums from 10 years ago?
I already posted this >>344034187
That's the average MGS2 opinion back then.
You not believing it is not necessary for it to be true, and none of this matters.
MGSV will be praised as an underrated gem because /v/ MUST always think the opposite of what the majority does, and always have the most hipster opinion.
>>344034997
Why should he? Everyone was sucking his cock so much, why would anyone like that feel bad? He even managed to contract a high class whore for his game project and put her front and center
>>344034729
the only mgs2 butthurt i remember is from ps2 fanboys who were mad substance was an xbox huge timed exclusive.
>>344034729
People hated it during the release window, but after they finished it and gave it some time they fell in love with it.
For MGSV it's exactly the other way around. People loved it shortly after release and started hating it when they "finished" (if you can call it that) it.
>>344035179
>>344035203
Yes anons, MGS2 had great reception, absolutely no one was angry at Raiden, they ALL loved it.
Seriously, this is SJW-tier history revisionism.
>>344035154
>high class whore
>some no name who models for restaurant menus
>>344035302
That is sitll a high class whore for japs since she is a western cock eater
>>344035203
It was irrelevant if it was finished or not, this is /v/eddit, the newest game is always going to be hated, and the previous ones will always be praised.
That's why no one in the industry takes this place seriously, because no one has any kind of independant thought, it always depends on the circumstances.
>>344035154
>>344035302
Fuck you
>>344035415
No, actually.
Foreign people are treated like garbage in Japan and have completely awful pays.
>>344035154
>not being able to finish mgsv because konami didn't want to do vidya anymore
>not being able to make silent hills because konami didn't want to do vidya anymore
>kojima gets massive backlash for unfinished mgs v
>guy's not even allowed to leave japan to accept the one award he did get
>>344035513
back to >>>/mlp/ horsefucker
>>344035539
Well yeah, but she is a western woman, that is all they want, sort of like how people always want jap women on thew estern side of the world
What hurts the most is watching the trailers.
>>344035298
Are you fucking retarded? What's your point?
People were fucking pissed that they had to play a Nigger in GTA:SA, does that mean the game was hated according to you?
>>344035682
>he fell for marketing
>>344035605
Good, he deservers that
>>344035752
People were saying MGS2 was garbage because of Raiden and because it didn't follow Snake, so yes, it got plenty of hate.
>>344035887
So, was GTA:SA also garbage? Answer the question
>>344035605
>kojima gets massive backlash for unfinished mgs v
Massive?
/v/ is the only place that was shitting on MGSV 10 days after release, and I doubt he cares about what this shithole thinks.
>>344035779
Who didn't? Those trailers were fucking nothing but hype.
>>344035968
No, it isn't, but when was this conversation about objective quality, and not about what people think?
>>344020093
>pre-madonna
It's prima donna
>people still blame Konami when they gave Kojima $80 million and 5 years to make MGSV
Kojimadrones are the worst, plus Kojima started the cancer that is cinematic gaming.
>>344036027
>random, disjointed shots with a random song in the background
>literally nothing about the plot shown
>no gameplay shown in those trailers aside from the 2013 trailer
Why were you all so goddamn stupid?
I had fun playing the game and dicking around, but man did it start to fall to complete shit the further in I got.
>>344018509
Yeah, the game's story is unfinished. Welcome to 9 months ago.
>>344036002
>/v/ is the only place that was shitting on MGSV 10 days after release
Actually there were threads circlejerking it for at least a few weeks post release.
>>344021876
I dislike Neo-Kojima but stop calling everybody you don't like Inafune.
They have nothing in common at all. Kojima always made games and made them like a dictator. He really cares about his product, even if he has lost touch with reality.
Inafune is a faggot who wants maximum sales and is responsible for DmC because he was in love with the west sales so he thought giving it to NT would automatically make it sell like hotcakes.
It's pretty clear that DLC was planned, but Kojima's departure prevented that from happening. MGSV was probably gonna have episodic dlc.
>>344036314
>no gameplay shown in those trailers aside from the 2013 trailer
>Why were you all so goddamn stupid?
They got a taste of the game play from the $30 demo...
>>344036278
>he thinks $80 million and 5 years is enough to build an engine from scratch and make an open world game
What's up with MGSV hate threads where people suddenly have absolutely no idea of how game development works?
You get people saying that Joosten costed 15 million, that the game didn't sell...
>"It´s Konami fault, Kojima dindu nuffin, he would make game perfect"
Do people really believe this shit ? Kojima´s a fucking hack. He can´t write shit.
>>344036510
>He really cares about his product
>Doesn't even finish it
>>344036278
You're retarded.
>>344019595
Did you not experience spore?
V is at least still a good game
>>344036662
>thinking he has any say about that
>>344036630
Only denialfags still praise Kojima.
>>344027681
Did Kojima spent fuckton of money which could have gone into game on some random no name whore that caught his eye just so he could fuck her ?
>>344036662
Yeah I'm sure he had the authority to unfire himself and give himself more budget retard.
>>344036867
According to /v/eddit, yes.
So obviously, no.
>>344023246
>The vocal parasites PERIOD
>The Cobra Unit all getting their powers from parasites
>Baby Mantis and Baby Liquid being childhood friends and growing up together(?)
>Skullface being there in the background during the events of MGS3
>Everything from PW
Wait, when was these points ever talked about? Can I get a detailed explanation here?
>>344036867
Yes anon, he spent millions and millions on Joosten, even though Sutherland costed 500k, and that lack of about 50 million is what ruined the game.
>>344033332
>It makes more convinced that MGSfags are more mad that the game didn't play out like the fanfics in their head over any of the actually cut content.
This is pretty much the prime reason, as far as I've been able to tell. The amount of people pinning blame solely on Kojima when we know Konami played some part in it only reinforces the idea.
>>344036881
>needing more than 5 years and $80million to finish MGSV
>>344018509
this is the second time metal gear has been sttolen by children, you will never be this big of a blunder.
>>344037196
I remember a hilarious copypasta of things people made up in their heads, and they were mad at Kojima for not making them.
I mean, after MGS4 and PW, they really thought Kojima would suddenly make a good videogame out of nowhere?
Even though the trailers didn't show anything like that, nor did the gameplay videos?
>ITT: people conveniently forget mission 51 to fit their narrative
MUH PUSSY
>>344036998
Did you even play the fucking game, anon?
>>344037317
>needing more than 5 years and $80 million to make a new engine from scratch and an open world game
People tend to forget the GOAT optimization of the Fox engine, and the massive lack of bugs compared to games like Skyrim or Fallout.
>>344037348
The gameplay and trailers were all great looking though and it's a great game. Le disappointment fags are memers and nothing else.
>>344037465
MGSV is just outposts with 4 soldiers walking 5 steps, it better not have that many bugs.
>>344037465
That would be a valid argument, if the engine was more than a glorified Joosten scanner and the open world wasn't completely empty.
>>344037317
He did. I don't see what you are trying to argue because the product is right there. If you are saying
>He's a shitty developer because he takes too long and goes over budget!
That's an entirely different argument than
>He literally doesn't care and just releases unfinished shit whenever he wants!
If he didn't care like you said, couldn't he of released the game a lot earlier with even less content and called it a day because the development cycle was already taking forever and getting expensive?
>>344034372
This. MGS has never been hard, unless you deliberately try to achieve the Big Boss/FOXHOUND rank in each of them.
>>344037819
>if the engine was more than a glorified Joosten scanner
What the fuck are you even talking about.
The object and character scan shit is available for practically every engine.
I bet you thought that video of the Fox engine making a map was unique or something too.
>the open world wasn't completely empty.
That doesn't matter, lesser games have been released without bugs.
>>344035179
>ps2 fanboys who were mad substance was an xbox huge timed exclusive.
Yeah, for like two months. Nice try, false flagger.
>>344037317
>5 years of staff having their power cut and being routinely forced to move to different workstations completely disrupting the workflow
People complain about the 80mil, but I doubt funding was ever a factor in the game's incompletion. Everything points to a troubled development process, yet for some reason everyone wants to believe it was plain negligence.
>>344037819
The actual engine is shit like the lighting and tools. It has nothing to do with content. How is complaining about content relevant to the engine?
You idiots really don't know anything about video games, do you.
>>344037869
I have another complaint here. Kojima KNEW very well in which state game is going to be released and since he parted ways with Konami NOTHING held him from warning people. Yet he continued to make nice but deceptive trailers and talk bullshit.
>>344038160
Konami didn't allow him to grab an award for MGSV, you think they were going to allow him to talk negatively about the game?
>>344038056
>You idiots really don't know anything about video games, do you.
Where the fuck do you think you are?
>>344037819
>if the engine was more than a glorified Joosten scanner and the open world wasn't completely empty.
Why are MGSV threads full of the most illiterate people regarding game development?
>>344038016
You're clearly too young to remember, there's nothing false flag about it.
>>344038242
What would they do? Send yakuza to make him commit sudoku for his shamefur dispray. He didn't have to reveal any corporate secrets, just warn that things don't go right. Everybody should've understand that game is in danger after whole shitstorm with Konami began, he could comment on it. And that he doesn't even talk about a game almost a year after it's release only proves he doesn't want to show that he is responsible for this mess.
In the end it's better to admit your doings than ihgnore them and lie.
>>344026689
As soon as he was gone MGS dipped in quality enormously, you'd have to be stupid not to make the obvious correlation.
>>344038468
MGSfags in general are pretty illiterate about many things surprisingly, even outside /v/. They think the new MGS3 pachislot is running on FOX.
>>344023743
I truly, sincerely hope not. I don't usually say stuff like this but it really just wouldn't be the same without Kohima.
MGS V was a shitty ending but it's better to just leave it it at that than do further damage with whatever the suits shit out.and I'm not implying Kohima could do better, it's become pretty clear he's run his course
>>344038468
Because most of /v/ genuinely believes video game development isn't a tight-fisted corporate venture and developers have absolute free reign over every aspect of the dev process.
Children make uninformed claims based on nothing, who knew?
>>344019862
I really want to punch konami in the face
>>344038160
There was nothing deceptive about trailers. All that was in the game, and on top of that we saw 2 hours worth of gameplay long before it hit shelves. You're all mad because your head canon didn't happen or because snake didn't go Darth Vader
>>344038805
*kojima, fuck
>>344038468
Because they're memeing retards. Why else do you think we get le mgsv disappointment threads 5 times a day? They just like to talk with no substance.
>>344038805
B..but MGS already had a remake. And everybody knows how it went. It was called Twin Snakes.
>Implying Kojima can write
>>344036998
It's clear Fukushima probably had the most to do with the good aspects of MGS' writing. There is a reason why Ghost Babel has one of the highest scores in the series, yet Kojima wasn't involved what so ever.
If MGS6 does happen, the series could very well be in better hands with Fukushima if he is brought on board.
>>344038705
He talked at one point about how he likes to watch documentaries of movies that weren't made as the director envisioned them. I think Japanese corporate culture just prevents many people in the industry to criticize their employer openly, even if they're no longer working for them.
>>344038160
Actually people do have to sign contracts about what they can and cannot talk about even after terminated from a company. Have you literally never worked at a company before?
>MGSV was supposed to show Big Boss' downfall
>Big Boss is Kojima's self insert
>Venom is the players
>Big Boss betrayed Venom
>Kojima betrayed his fans
it's such a dense tapestry, it really has poetic qualities.
>>344039041
>implying Solid Snake doing a literaly 360 noscope wasn't pure kino
>>344038468
Yeah man I just loved picking herbs and punching goats, who needs actual game content when you have totally empty overworlds with zero things to do?
Venom snake should have been chico
>>344039169
What does that have to do with making a new engine from scratch and having it work perfectly well at it's first try?
