So I just played the demo, and it's good.
Why the fuck do you fucks don't like it?
>It runs well
>It looks good
>Animations are brutal
>Shotguns feels good
>It's fast, not doom1 tier but so what
>Music is good
>No bullshit cinematics
>Difficulty is good
So? Are you just buttblasted is has Denuvo? Is it because it's not an exact copy of Doom? Is this why you don't like brutal doom?
It's the best doom ever made
nobody even said it's bad who the fuck are you talking to
We did like it your just late.
There isn't much to talk about once you beat the campaign twice.
have you played mp? that's the only thing that matters and apparently it sucks. i don't care about your single player fps experience. the ONLY people interested in doom were arena shooter enthusiasts
>>344018096
>>It's fast, not doom1 tier but so what
the only thing in Doom 1 that's faster is the player's movement. the actual enemies are slow as turds.
>>344018340
This is one of the top ten stupidest things I've ever seen written on this site.
>>344018239
Every DOOM thread I see is full of "it's halo", "this isn't 1993", "it's shit", etc...
>>344018340
>the ONLY people interested in doom were arena shooter enthusiasts
You're wrong
>>344018340
Pay attention kids. This is how you bait
>>344018393
>not everyone on /v/ has the same opinon
holy fuck alert the presses
>>344018461
and you took it like a retard. doesn't matter if you 'point' it out with retarded b8 images and the like, bottom line you fed him the (You). kys
>>344018340
>apparently
So, you're just quoting people and haven't actually played it yourself?
/v/ likes doom though, there's only a small amount of people who don't like it
>>344018587
Rough day anon? Want to talk about it?
I like it a lot. I spend a lot of time playing custom Doom .wads so I've already experienced pretty much everything the old Doom engine can offer, so being given something entirely new with the same old style and spirit is great. Everything I wanted.
>>344018387
>>344018397
>>344018461
explain why it's dead then. you kids weren't even alive yet or at the very least weren't sentient when doom was in its heyday. even back then people ONLY cared about multiplayer. then came quake and doom died the end
I don't know how any FPS these days can get away without perfectly implemented RPG elements, like EYE pioneered it
>>344018597
yeah, sure, whatever. i played it. it's shit
>>344018587
Pay attention kids. This is how you bait
>>344018691
>then came quake and doom died
YOUR ON FIRE ANON
>>344018691
It's dead because it's terrible. No one is denying that. But everyone who played Doom played it for the single player. Most of us beat it and are done talking about it.
it's a 6/10 singleplayer feels like it doesn't go anywhere/too short and multiplayer falls flat on it's face
>>344018707
damn near every modern shooter has some kind of retarded upgrade system because the shootan itself is never up to par doom is no exception here
>>344018553
Hey man, calm down. We all know that the hype thing to do is hate on everything new or fun. The majority of DOOM threads were negative ones, of course some people aren't retarded and enjoyed it.
>>344018675
i had a 5 hour fap and i feel eh
The campaign is fucking awesome.
The multiplayer is meh, not bad but not great.
The single player is worth it alone, probably the best since wolfenstein.
>>344018096
Have you even been in the threads since it launched? /v/ loves D44M's singleplayer. Anyone who says anything more negative about it than calling it a painkiller clone gets shat on.
>>344018587
Here's your (You).
>>344018934
that's not true though. why do you think id created quake that focused on multiplayer? it was in response to the great success doom mp found and what do you know, quake ended up being one of the most successful mp fps of all time
>>344018986
That's why I said "perfectly implemented", not "retarded"
>>344018096
It's not very good.
>>344019106
>wolfenstein
here we go again. why did wolfenstein fail? because it's mp sucked ass. nobody gives a fuck about single player experiences in their fps games. they never have
>>344018096
>>No bullshit cinematics
Every single melee execution.
>>344019194
Exactly Quake is the multiplayer shooter. I'm sure there was an audience for Doom multiplayer but you have some weird perceptions of you think that's why people loved it.
>>344019337
But you can turn them off without destroying the balance of the game or even upgrade them so that by using them you literally move faster than just running alone.
>>344018096
>Run around entire area while shooting
>Still getting hit by things you can't see
Wow, so this is where the pinnacle of the genre has left its dead pale carcass? 10/10 A* excellent game design.
I 100% the game in 14 hours, it's fun and a great game, but I don't drop $60 for 14 hours. I might as well sub to WoW for 4 months
>i dont play wow, but I rather do that
>>344019331
Yeah fuck off
>>344018340
>mfw people shit on the MP but it's actually fun as fuck
I don't see how people hate it, it's like Halo but fast as fuck and way better weapons.
>>344019416
>But you can turn them off
Don't you fucking lie to me.
>>344019374
and who do you think made quake the smashing success that it was? it was people who were playing doom mp. they wanted a more focused experience and id gave it to them
>>344018096
mostly poorfags and piratefags but those are the same people anyways.
>>344019337
>still using this fucking meme
>>344019337
But you can't use them on higher difficulty without getting destroyed, nobody forces you to use them, and even if you do use them, they are well made, vary according to were you're aiming and last literally 1.5 seconds.
>>344019485
yeah, i guess the greatest and most successful version, rtcw, was hailed because of its single player campaign. fucking ROFL, kiddo. LITERALLY nobody fucking cares about single player experiences
>>344019337
By this logic the fucking animations of the weapons are cinematics too
>>344019462
did you beat it on UN?
>>344019416
Blatant lies aren't arguments except for that last part which still doesn't work because you have to freeze into animations anyway.
>>344019712
>But you can't use them on higher difficulty without getting destroyed
Exactly.
>1.5 seconds
That's a shit ton of time to be doing on hundreds of enemies.
>>344019821
Weapon animations don't stop key inputs.
>>344019918
>That's a shit ton of time to be doing on hundreds of enemies.
But anon, you can finish the game without using them. Or you can do the non autistic thing and do it every once in a while when you encounter a new enemy to see what they came up with.
>>344019546
>>344019918
>turn off glow
>turn off interaction prompt
>unbind glory kills
>still get the same amount of dropped health from gibs
>>344020138
You get more health from executions, that's the entire point. The game is balanced around using it liberally to show off their setpiece animations of ripntear meme.
>post yfw this kicked in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNkQMtZAMAw&index=23&list=PLstXdGXEYegd3XI7qfL-9B8S4106toCFo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhIS4FdS7co&index=14&list=PLstXdGXEYegd3XI7qfL-9B8S4106toCFo
>>344020280
No you don't. You get more health from both executions AND GIBS.
Also jesus fuck the game is probably easier to beat on nightmare without using glory kills once than it is using them at all.
>>344020280
If it didn't have rip and tear animations it would be a boring bland shooter that no one would remember because literally every fucking game now has ludicrous amounts of gore.
>>344020280
>ripntear meme
Stop treating gore in Doom as a forced meme, it was always about gorey fights and scenery
>>344018096
>original doom comes out
>everybody copies it
>nudoom comes out
>it copies the sequels of games that copied it
Save us from this drought serious sam
Only played the demo so far but the game is legit hardcore. Love it. It is classic style PC gaming with no fucks given about transgenders nor political agendas. Just a seriously pissed off dude being metal and murdering the fuck out of demons.
>>344020516
No, it was never about canned animation melee executions that halt all input for the duration.
It was that trash comic that started it and Brutal Doom encouraged it. It is a meme.
But we do like it, anon. Gauss cannon a best
>>344018387
What's #4 on your list?
>>344018340
>MP is the only thing that matters
>in a DOOM game
You cannot kill yourself fast enough. Being underage should be illegal.
>>344020686
>ID probably told to remove rocket jumping so people wouldn't be upset that it wasn't in the multiplayer
>they put it on best weapon instead
Why is gauss so perfect?
>>344019850
no, I only did the first level for the achievement. Also I wouldn't have done UN in the first place, that just makes the achievements longer when I'm gonna sell the damn thing on craigslist the next week
>>344020453
You don't gib as many enemies as you are meant to glory kill. Glory is basically free besides a wounding shot while gibs require excessive damage.
>>344020516
As someone replied, it's not an issue of gore. It's how you must stop and look while a script plays every time. Doom 1/2 had damage applying as long as you held the key for punch/chainsaw but you could move on before the kill if you wanted and kept moving through the enemy when it lost all health.
>>344020581
This doom is literally Serious Sam though. Has the exact same mechanics, right down to the "glory kills".
>>344020660
Style isn't enough for me desu. I need me some true classic fps action.
At least it did classic better than fucking wolfenstein.
>>344020880
then you didnt 100 the game brah
>>344018096
We argued because the multiplayer was crap, but that was the leaked version way before release.
It's actually pretty fucking great and a nice surprise coming from Bethesda.
>>344020673
You realize those executions help the pace of the game by encouraging the player to rush into the fight instead of playing safe, right?
No, they were not in the original but they are a good feature that fits the game
>>344018096
Too expensive.
>>344020970
Arenas need to be slightly bigger and filled with more enemies, I'd say.
>>344020739
i can guarantee that i'm older than you, little buddy. if you actually were alive to play doom during its prime you would know people only cared about mp. crying and screaming about it won't rewrite history
>>344020958
>You don't gib as many enemys as you glory kill
LOL
You fucking gib hundreds more enemies than you glory kill you absolute shitter. Or are you telling me you didn't ever use the gauss, rocket launcher, and shotty nades? Or the micro missiles, plama bomb, or frags?
Like the only way you could think you could think what you said is possibly close to true is if you ran through the whole game on HmP relying on SS, HAR, and glory kills while upgrading health and armor instead of ammo.
>>344019559
98% of people who played doom1 didn't play multiplayer. Actually, i bet the fact it was included in vanilla would surprise most people who played it.
>>344018340
>>344020987
You should try SS3 then though the last couple levels are a bit ridiculous. Stupidly decided to play the game on the hardest difficulty and have not been able to progress to the very end.
The general gameplay though is everything you'd expect from an old school manic FPS. False walls, hidden secrets with humorous effects on the level, resized enemies, etc. There's also ADS aiming if you want to use it but it offers no actual benefit. It's just cosmetic for those who feel more comfortable with it.
>>344021070
If you were good at the game you would already rush into the fight. Only bad players waste their time by being cautious. This is true in the originals.
Glory kills only serve to make your mistakes meaningless. It doesn't matter if you took too much damage during a fight, because the amount of health you get from glory kills and gibs scales with how hurt you are.
Every single enemy is a walking health pack. You aren't forced to live with your mistakes and get better.
You only think it fits the game because you're a casual.
>>344021241
That's fair, until you get those weapons and its particular ammo becomes plentiful that is.
>>344020581
sam is our last hope
SW2 might end up being good but i'm not keen on the rpg stuff they try to jam in there
>>344021531
I wish people like you would actually play the game. You get jack shit in terms of health on the harder difficulties.
>>344021153
>if you actually were alive to play doom during its prime you would know people only cared about mp
The fuck? The original dooms barely had multiplayer and even then it was a direct dialup connection, mostly for coop. Piss off, underage poser.
>>344021153
Quake was multiplayer king you eejit
I tried playing the demo on my PS4 but holy fuck it makes the fan scream.
>>344021681
I did play the game and I started on Nightmare difficulty. Uncharged imp fireballs do 45 damage to you but small health packs in the level only give you, I think it was 2 health? Medium health packs only gave 10.
But I noticed when I was really low health, glory kills or gibbing an enemy brought me back to half health.
So you're forced to glory kill all the way through if you want to remain at optimal health.
>>344018691
Doom had mp? Or actually who here even played anything except the shareware version or pirated?
>>344022005
It was popular in my school district, from elementary straight through to HS. Father was also a Doom addict. We had the full versions of every single one. MP was a pain in the ass. You had to call your friend and coordinate a MP game on the phone. One player had to agree to go into listen mode, then the other player had to use the modem to dial to the listen modem. When it finally worked without someone picking up the phone and destroying the connection, you got to play le epic same game you were playing the whole time, only now there's someone else there to steal the pickups.
>>344021918
Wait I had to beat UV to unlock Nightmare. How did you start with it?
>>344018393
At least in halo you don't spawn with a power weapon.
>>344022426
I'm not sure, I heard about that too. I just bought the game on sale a few weeks ago and noticed I could start on Nightmare, so I did.
>>344018340
I actually like the multiplayer. If it just removed loadouts and put the weapons on the map as well as remove demon shit from everything but soul harvest it would be a great multiplayer game. It is still better level design than any modern shooter and its still better than garbage like overwatch even with how shitty it is at the moment.
>>344022426
Set the difficulty to nightmare from the options menu before you start your run.
I think it's actually pretty clever, since most people who are good enough to actually start on nightmare will go to the options menu first thing to set their keybinds and just check what there is.
>>344018096
Most people agree it's at least good, OP
>>344022656
People don't give the map design enough credit, it's honestly god tier maps in the MP
>>344021918
glory kills are just a deathtrap on nightmare unless it's literally the last enemy left there is always the chance you could get killed instantly as soon as the invulnerability animation wears off
it's just a shitty cheap mechanic any way you look at it
>>344022426
you can start immediately on nightmare, it's just in red text
you do need to beat the game to unlock ultra nightmare though
>>344018096
Yeah, would be cool if it actually shown at least 1 full fledged level.
All i've got is tutorial level with 1 weapon and webm related.
>>344022758
If you think about it, glory kills are what ruined the game.
It's common knowledge that bullet sponge enemies are a lazy and cheap way to create difficulty. They spent so much time and money marketing the glory kills so that casuals would see OOH SHINY and buy the game.
They made all the enemies that shouldn't be a bullet sponge into one so that you wouldn't miss your chance to get an epic glory kill.
My only gripe is that everything doesn't die fast enough. A point blank shotgun blast should instantly kill an imp or one of those possessed soldiers.
>>344022931
>I don't have the money and I all have is a demo in 2016
>>344023469
that isn't what i meant at all
>>344018096
>Are you just buttblasted is has Denuvo?
Precisely.
>>344018340
That's quake you mong, Doom while also know for its MP was always more about the brutal single player
>>344022931
enough to show you how the game runs.
>>344023469
This.
There is a mod that removes the animation at least.
Look a 0:25 and onward and you see how game breaking the glory kill animations are.
https://r.kyaa.sg/kbeati.webm
They regenerate health so that you don't miss that glory kill moment.
With lots of enemies (heh...lots..) this becomes even more apparent since monsters in the background get their health back while you shot the other monsters, biting away their health points, only to see those that you shot at now have more HP.
>>344020308
>>344021695
>original doom
>coop
are you just pretending to be retarded
>>344018096
The real question is if you like it then why do you care that other people don't like it?
>>344024959
>a wild poser appears!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_(1993_video_game)
>Aside from the single player game mode, Doom features two multiplayer modes playable over a network: "cooperative", in which two to four players team up, and "deathmatch", in which two to four players play against each other.
>>344024383
>not knowing how demos work
>>344024959
m8 you could always co-op doom as long as the map has player spawns same as quake and the descent games
>>344019490
It's nothing like Halo you mong. They probably hate it because they can't git gud.
>>344019048
>i had a 5 hour fap
So you had one fap that lasted 5 hours?
>>344019175
Where's my (you)?
>>344024383
The demo is a very smooth experience both because the first level - both indoor and outdoor section - are very tiny and without any fancy post processing effects compared to virtually every level that follows it. I also noticed that the demo ran smoother than the full game version of the first level. Not by much, but there was a difference.
My anecdotal observation with using an HD7870, the card designated as the bare minimum recommended level of hardware. At 1080p with everything Off/Low, even the worst framerate I've seen was the 20s when looking at some of the largest expanses in the game. Most of the time, I was in the 30-40 range in the big outdoor areas and close to 60 whenever indoors.
If I were to upgrade to any card released in the past two to three years, I'd probably have no problem maintaining 60FPS at all times with higher settings.
>>344025450
That's gotta be it, I fucking love using PR on it, but rocket shitters can go die, they need to reduce the splash damage on rockets and make it inflict more self damage. As it is now, people are using it like a shotgun and spamming it
>>344025971
Or just put them on the map and get rid of this loadout cancer infection every shooter.
>>344025450
It is kind of designed the same way
i'd say it's better than halo generally though
it sure doesn't feel like an idtech game
>>344018096
i crashed the game from picking off some dope moves it forced me to write a bug report so i just deleted the process
>>344025948
>demo runs at 120-144fps, totally maxed at 1080p on a $400 980ti
Proof that graphics could be pushed MUCH harder but won't be thanks to gimp ass consoles restraining the progress of all things gaming related.
>>344018393
maybe you just focus on the negative in life
>>344019331
and the engine is locked at 60 fps. Who isnt using a 120hz+ monitor now days?
>>344020308
>>344025824
Here, take one too.
>>344025948
>with everything Off/Low
That barely does anything (with the exception of reflections/virtual texture size), the real change comes from the resolution scale.
I stay on 60FPS easy on a 750ti with 80% res scale.
>>344022005
You would have embarrassed yourself less if you firebranded "I'm a clueless newfag" on your forehead instead of posting that.
That said new Doom campaign is great and I enjoyed the fuck out of it, just like I did with original back in 1994. Mind you that for most people back then playing Doom mp meant hauling your shit including a CRT monitor to a friend for a LAN party.
>>344021897
It's a feature, anon. It's trying to encourage you to scream
>>344020308
>doot revenant in background
>>344018096
I see five threads a day like this, and I haven't seen a thread or any anons actively bashing DOOM since months before launch. You fucking DOOMbabbies have the biggest victim complex, just stfu and enjoy the game.
>>344024870
fucking kek
>>344022931
Thats what a demo is.
I remember playing the AvP2 demo over and over again before I had enough money saved up to buy it. It was just a fraction of the level that could be beat in less than 5 minutes. (Granted there were 3 campaigns though)
>>344027453
Thanks anon :)
>>344021526
>a guardian of time on serious without dying or loading
>>344018393
The only "it's Halo" posts i've seen were in regards to the multiplayer, which does play a hell of a lot like Halo.
>>344018340
Saved
>>344018096
>So I just played the demo, and it's good.
You fucking liar, the demo is awful, worst level of the game.
Now starting with the third one the real fun begins, and at level 5 game becomes godlike
>>344018691
>doom died the end
Spoiler that shit senpai ;_;
>>344029210
Thats my only gripe out of the game. Though it would probably be the only way to get multiplayer to be somewhat decent.
