People complain the steam sales get worse every year but more games keep selling and Valve keeps making more money
How?
DOOM
>>344009950
There's simply more games on Steam with each passing year as well as more releases. You do the math.
The sales don't get worse, you just own all the games you're interested in
More people start using steam
>>344009950
Of course they made more money, they barely gave discounts on anything.
>>344010109
explain this then
>>344009950
Normalfags outnumber everyone else. No matter what informed people complain about is irrelevant to the great masses which flock to purchase shit.
>>344010179
Older games get bigger discount as opposed to recent ones. There are many recent ones.
>>344010014
not to mention games don't go on that much of a sale anymore.
In the past, if a game wasn't at least 75% off it wasn't worth buying.
Now a days, the only things that go off more then 50% are trash tier games you'd never want to buy anyway.
Steam sales suck ass, they aren't even fun. You just go on the first day of the sale, see wht the games cost, and ur done. No waiting, or searching for hiden gems, no hoping that game you want drops real low in price.
Just "oh it's 30% off... wow saving 15 bucks thanks gabe you fat greedy fuck"
>>344010179
greedy devs that realized they fucked up put lower prices to pander the audience. For example, Payday 2 and a lot more failed indie games.
>>344010109
>No community event
>Sales unchanged from day 1
They're objectively worse.
>>344010109
You say that but even fucking Fallout 4 had a bigger discount than fucking Oblivion.
Every game I planned on buying was cheaper on sites like Kinguin and G2A. I didn't buy a single game from steam this sale but I still bought 4 games during the sale.
Now that is just bad.
Because they stopped doing the special daily offer deal bullshit. People don't need to wait anymore to see the lowest discount for the games and don't feel like they've wasted more money buying games earlier.
Also means that you're not pressured anymore into buying a dozen cheap ass game for BIG SAVINGS that end up never being played.
>>344010179
That supports his post you idiot.
>>344010303
>tfw the lowest game on my wishlist was fucking Dynasty Warriors at 66%, the game that never gets good deals.
You know things are fucked up when Koei iof all companies s the one that had the better prices.
>>344010430
How?
>sales don't get worse
>here's an imagine showing it was worse
What does that have to do with games owned?
>>344010430
how?
Not this guy but the sales are really shitty for a few years now
>>344009950
a.) More normies come to Steam every year
b.) Every year more shitty low-cost/low-price indy games get added for people to spend $10 for a dozen and then never play them
>>344010179
Devs have realized they cant sell games for 5 dollars and be successful
>>344010529
no they realized you can sell the same amount with a 50% discount. That's why there aren't as much 75% discounts anymore
This place isn't the group games are made towards anymore. It's "normies".
>>344010501
>average discount was lower this time
>discount
>lower
>this time
>>344010179
That's one of the main reasons I haven't bought a single game during this sale.
>>344010715
Yes? So how does it not make the sale worse?
50% discount on average is worse than 66% discount on average.
>>344009950
Because it wasn't worse. This one had no voting and lvl up minigames and no flash sales. It was no clusterfuck and still had tons of great discounts.
>>344010109
True. a first timer could get Portal, HL, Deus ex, Mirror's edge, Dishonored, Bioshock, Elder Scrolls, DA:O, Whicher, Fallout, System Shock and a ton of other good games for less than 10$ each. It's ridiculously easy to build a good library nowadays.
>>344010303
this
I've no doubt it makes them more money, and more people buy more games on it
but it sho isn'tfunanymore >:[
just another sale like any other in the world, but it's a corporations and corporations are gonna corporate
>>344010837
>and still had tons of great discounts.
>last sales
>didn't really want anything
>still bought 3 games
>this sale
>wanted like 15 games
>didn't but a single one because none of them were under 50%
Thinking about it I haven't bought a single game on steam since that sale. I just buy stuff of key sites and shit like that.
>>344010957
because you already own all the stuff you like
>>344010179
>50% discount is good now
fuck off devs, i never spent more than 10 dollars on any game on steam.
>>344011180
Then how come every game I wanted and didn't have that I checked up on had a fucking awful discount?
Not even any only games. Like 5 year old bargain bin trash had shitty discounts.
steam has gotten much more popular, that doesn't mean the sales are better.
There's a whole generation of kids raised on Pewdiepie that are just getting their first laptops for school and are finally able to buy that shitty indie/meme game they saw LP'd
>>344009950
I literally forgot to buy anything during this summer sale. I own over 900 games on my Steam profile though. Every sale I just see "owned" on every page.
What good shit did I miss? Did any new games go on 50% sales or something?
>>344011486
I'm in a similar boat, I bought a few games out of curiosity.
Corpse Party, Momodora something something and the cheaper MSF game.
It's kind of refreshing for me to buy games I haven't researched beforehand or tried to get cheap on keysites to be honest.
>>344011486
About the only good dead was the new Doom at 40% off.
The rest was about the same as before, or a lot of the time, worse than before.
Fuck you too Todd you curly haired fuck.
>>344010808
>being poor
>>344009950
Now divide those numbers by how many users actively browsed steam during those sales for a number that's actually relevant.
>>344011486
Dooooom was off a lot for just coming out. Batteborn was almost free.
GTAV was on sale for a lot.
Crusader kings 2 was on sale for so much that its dlc cost quintuple the price of it.
>>344010837
>True. a first timer could get Portal, HL, Deus ex, Mirror's edge, Dishonored, Bioshock, Elder Scrolls, DA:O, Whicher, Fallout, System Shock and a ton of other good games for less than 10$ each
Not even true. Fallout was like $7.50 for the complete edition a couple years ago, was over $12 this year. Lots of those games were cheaper in the recent past as well. Fuck, I bought DA:O on console for like $4 years ago, why is it still double that, on sale, on Steam, in 2016? These sale prices sucked, period.
Meh such a shitty sale really. The only good game I got was probably just AOE 2.
>>344009950
what about the summer before that? I bet this one just better than the last one but not better than the ones before
>>344011228
Prove it, let's see that steam calculator boy
>>Larger consumer base
>>More Games
>> Reasonably popular games not being sold dirt cheap
I think that a lot of companies have learned that there is no need for them to lower their prices to that extreme they did a couple of years ago. I would guess that most games released relatively recently don't sell three times more for 2.5 than for 7.5 for example. I would guess that both indies and large publishers have realized that they seldom sell enough to make it viable for them to have such low price points.
I was waiting for SF5 to get a bigger discount but didn't happen thus didn't buy it.
Gonna buy it from other place.
retards with money waste it , thats how
>>344010109
this primary anyway
>>344009950
>>344010014
This. Also more people on Steam too.
>>344010808
Good, no one's looking to lose money off of you. Go and be a third worlder somewhere else.
>>344009950
>People complain the steam sales get worse every year
Only edgelord faggots who try to fit in on /v/ do this.
>>344009950
retards keep paying more for games than they should
>bought 4 games
>refunded 2 of them
>valve has stopped making games
>they do nothing but make controllers and shitty vr demos now
>steam is full of shovelware and weeb shit
fuck you valve i'm done with you shitheads
>>344014446
>pls let me pay more for your commercial products!
/v/ never ceases to be exceptionally retarded
>wishlist is 30 games
>summer sale 2016 rolls around
>only bought 2 games
>1 of them wasn't even on my wishlist
>awful discounts on the rest
>some didn't even have discounts
>no gimmicks, flash sales, or community events
Refunds truly were a blessing and a curse.
>>344014632
> ranting about weeb shit
> on an imageboard for north korean socket puppets
>>344009950
I didn't even buy anything this sale. Not now when certain devs jack up prices of games and put them back on "sale" for the original price.
>>344010808
This desu senpai. I refuse to buy any game that only "slightly interest me" for less than 51% discount. Even more so if they're filled with DLCs.
>>344014935
>finally a game you wanted gets a decent discount
>but it has a lot of dlc
>dlc is only -20% or 33% off and all together cost about as much as the game itself on discount
yeah no fuck you
Now say Thank You Denuvo for saving PC gaming
I didn't buy anything. I barely looked though, there are games coming out in the future I'd rather save my money for.
>>344010303
>Steam sales suck ass, they aren't even fun. You just go on the first day of the sale, see wht the games cost, and ur done. No waiting, or searching for hiden gems, no hoping that game you want drops real low in price.
>>344010303
This is really what killed sales for me. Yeah, I'll miss some good sales because I'm not around for all the flash sales, but it all adds to the experience. And sure, some argue "it's just a sale, it doesn't matter if it's fun or not" but flash sales lead to better discounts if you could catch them in time so they were worth it. Not to mention the whole cards routine is old at this point compared to what they used to do.
>>344015041
That's actually better than devs who never put their DLCs on discount. Usually I'll buy just the base game at big discount and wait to play until I get the DLCs at a lower discount.
>>344010109
This.
That flash game they had last year was pretty neat but this past winter and recent summer sale were pretty meh.
Also with the market being ruined thanks to steam security you can't pop cards for extra cash during the sale, you would've had to do so weeks in advance
>>344015041
Bethesda is especially notorious for this shit. It's still cheaper to just buy Dishonored GOTY than to buy two fucking pieces of DLC I want.
>>344015019
> trying to make an anti-weeb argument
> on an image board for chinese shadow play
>>344009950
They made more money because the sale percentages were lower. People got tricked into the Summer Sale frenzy without realizing they were spending more.
>>344015164
>no uncracked denuvo game sold more than 1 million copies.
>>344009950
Lower sale percentages and fact publishers have started jacking up base prices by 25-30%.
>>344015019
>Video Games
>non-weeaboo
Uh huh. Sure thing, sport, keep telling yourself that.
/v/ ispurple.
>>344009950
because flash sales were fucking retarded.
they only had a select few games be on the flash sale instead of just having a sale on a large selection of games
>>344009950
People fall into routines.
>>344010957
Numbers don't lie. Everything was discounted lower overall than last summer sale. Just because you don't "feel" it's cheaper doesn't mean it isn't.
>>344013030
Steam calculator doesn't take into account when the game was bought.
>>344016013
You got that backwards, you fucking retard. The "average" discount was lower this time. It was 50% this time and 66% last year which was already worse than the years before it.
>>344009950
neo-steam
>>344009950
less and less sales outside of the "events", meaning peaks but also flat nothing the rest of the time
>>344009950
By those numbers:
Recent sale = $7.22 per game average
Previous sale = $4.85 per game average
The prices are almost double what they were.
That's why the sale is shit.
Great for Valve, sure. Worse for us as customers.
Only corporate dicksuckers or shills can be happy about this result.
>>344009950
>console converts, who are already accustomed to the taste of shit, think these shit sales are great
>new converts every year
>worse sales
>????
>gabe jewell profits
>>344009950
>Gaben and Steam become memes
>normies find memes
>"omg praise gaben xDDD"
And sensible people don't buy the games while normies and underages keep thinking that the steam sales people memed about years ago are still the same.
>>344016751
You have to be beyond retarded if you think the sales were going to be able to exist in a sustainable PC market. They were there to get people to warm up to buying digital and create a userbase.
>>344009950
Doesnt prove anything, what new games had come out during last sale, what new games came out this one?
Sales fluctuate massively year on year based on what came out recently, for all we know last year was a shit sale because of no games.
>>344016465
I love sucking corporate dick.
Go get some better respect for these developers faggot and leave this place forever.
Prepare your anus for the next garbage Steam sale which is probably the christmas/winter sale.
>>344017859
>respect
>sjw indie devs
>greedy big corporation professional lying bullshitter
>and fucking Phil "Choke on it" Fish tier cuntbags
Fuck off back to your amateur dev general, dipshit.
>>344016465
Funny how anime games have the weakest sales, but your ass probably laps them right up despite weeb companies copypasting for full priced sequels.
>>344017859
Maybe devs could get more sales by making better games?
>>344010303
Valve doesn't set the discount prices for the games they don't own, anonymous.
I know it's fun to blame everything I don't understand on Gabe, but when a game is on Steam then that doesn't mean it's owned by Steam.
>>344009950
You know the key premise to the free market?
That competition will inevitably lead to the best products for the consumer succeed and thus free market benefits both sellers and buyers?
Yeah, it's a big fucking lie.
>>344009950
The only reason they get worse is because most of us have already gotten everything we really want over the years, and need to wait for new games to go on sale.
>>344009950
Easy, you just offer stuff at a lower percentage.
Like something use to be like 85% off in previous sales, but this time it was only 75%.
I know there was some stuff in my list that was actually cheaper back in February and December, and I really think lots of developers are baking on people falling for the hype without seeing how low some stuff has been in the past.
Then there were probably lots of people paying for stuff with something like level 30-15% off. Which were probably new titles that will just sit in someones backlog while other sales when they go 40%+ off happen.
>>344009950
Think about it, with flash sales you really just monitored the games you were interested in and would wait until the last day of the sale to buy it if it never went on daily/flash sale.
No flash sales means no chance of prices going down. Since people know prices aren't going down, they're less cautious about buying. Since they're less cautious about buying, they just get what the fuck ever they want on an impulse day one. Now, since they got all that shit on day one and the sale's still going, they start looking around the market more and then compulsively buy more. The sales are worse every year, but Valve still found a way to maximize profits by minimizing sales.
The amount of pathetic faggots in this thread...
>whhhhha why aren't games discounted enough for me to be able to afford them
Just kill yourselves, the games are much cheaper than they are full price and you still moan?
Simply epic.
>>344010109
Skyrim was sold for $10 this year
TEN DOLLARS
>>344018167
>Valve makes their own PC market with Steam
>Becomes so popular and profitable that nearly every developer plans PC releases to get in on the market
>Largest yearly selection for PC games ever
>Anon still isn't happy because he can't get games he can literally get for free anytime he wants for $5 each
I only bought one game this year
>>344018501
>Skyrim was sold for $10 this year
The legendary with all the DLC.
Steam spy is a paid shill nowdays
opinion discarded
>>344018501
Is that supposed to be bad, because that sounds good
>>344018167
Ever heard of inflation you dumb faggot?
>>344018568
No the base game was being sold for $10
>>344018660
It is half off I, but every sale before that it went down to $5 for the base game and $10 for the legendary
>>344018906
That's not Valve's fault though, they don't choose the prices you know?
I'd say they are doing that because once you buy Skyrim (with the DLC) you automatically get the Remastered edition that they are working at, so the price went up a little to make up for that.
But hey wait a second optionally I could just shitpost like you and post graphs that I don't understand, right?
>>344010303
>he wants to have to check back to steam every few hours to see new deals instead of just checking his wishlist when it goes live and deciding then
autist, mongoloid
also, people would buy games, then flash sale comes and they would refund, do you fucking understand the nightmare?
>>344019094
The graph is showing the history of sales for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, if you notice the price Jun23 2016 is $9.99 and all the sales before it the price went down to half of that ($4.99)
Graph is from steam db
If you couldn't use your brain to read that graph you are dumb
>>344010303
They had to do away with the super deals you're talking about when they added a refund feature to steam. Not excusing the weak and sales, just saying...
If they had the rotating super deals, people who bought a game Monday would refund it Tuesday when they saw it on sale for even cheaper. The logistics would be hell since the refund system isn't automated.
>>344018906
That is because Skyrim "remastered" edition is coming, and Bethesda wants to hype that.
>>344019368
Did you read my post?
Yes, it would go to $5, but at those times you were only buying the product Skyrim (trademark)
Now, if you buy Skyrim (trademark) you automatically purchase Skyrim Remastered. It's only natural the price is a little higher.
When smokers complain about rising prices they don't just quit smoking.
>>344018101
entire post rekt from that one simple point. good stuff
>>344019505
cancer roll suckers are pathetic addicts though
I can just not buy overpriced games
>>344019469
If you buy skyrim with all dlc then you get remastered
Not the base game, I know why Bethesda isn't selling it as low as before, but that's no need to raise the base game if when you buy the base game you only get the base game.
I understand the point though
>>344019739
But to buy the DLC you need to own the base game??
If the base game is $5 they are forced to make the legendary (with all DLC) $10 so it's better to make the base $5??
>>344014819
>Weeaboo shit is normal in 4chan
>Therefore is okay everywhere
What kind of logic is that?
>>344018101
But that's wrong though. Few devs have confirmed that Valve does send messages/"suggestions" on sale percentages.
>>344019724
Some people are addicted to spending money
>>344019985
Mostly retards which includes a lot of americans.
>>344020026
Ironic when Yurocucks buy more shitty games like CoD than Americans.
HOW? Last year was so fun, and this year was so boring.
