After being disillusioned by console gaming in the past couple of years I have decided to switch to PC. This is mostly due to the fact that I no longer enjoy the types of games offered on my PS4. I want a deeper experience in my gaming and the freedom to play older titles I miss.
Is a 960 overkill if I plan on playing mostly gsg/simulation games etc. at 1080p?
>>343995886
>Is a 960 overkill if I plan on playing mostly gsg/simulation games etc. at 1080p?
Considering Paradox can't program no. CPU is just as important for grand strategies, though.
>>343995886
Just get an RX 480 or a GTX 970. They're the perfect 1080p gaming gpus and will last longer than a 960.
>>343995886
wait for 1060 or buy 480
>>343995886
960 is obsolete already (and was bad price/performance since it was released desu senpai), I dont think it will handle simulation games very well
these >>343996214 are better choices, 1060 in a couple days too
>>343995886
1060 is great, but 970 is good as well.
You can get 480, but be aware, that if you have a cheap motherboard, it might cause damage to it, because of the fucked voltage and energy drain that card has.
>>343995886
Even GTX 1080s won't be able to hit 60 fps at 1080p on newer titles thanks to shit like God rays.
Hey a 480. Theres literally zero reason to get a 970 since that and the 1070 are out.
>>343996994
God rays are mostly CPU based.
Unless you're talking about the volumetric light in Fallout 4. That shit's just broken and bethesda can't code anything for shit.
not OP, but Im on the fence in terms of upgrading
What get?
>>343995886
I've got a 750 xti, and it isn't really enough for max settings nowdays. I'm thinking about making the jump right up to a 1080 gtx.
Is there anything I should be aware of for these newer cards?
>>343997373
an ssd to stick windows 7 in and pay out the nose for a 1070 since you're sucking that nvidia dick
>>343997527
but i already got 7tb of storage i dont need more storage right now
Im not an nvidia puristi bought all the parts new a few years back but the 8800 gts was a hand me down
>>343995886
I have a 960 and I highly suggest that you get the rx480 or just wait for 1060.
Will the RX470 be good enough for 1080p or should I let nvidia jew me out with the 1060 6GB version since they won't release a 4GB one?
>>343997628
the ssd is not for storage, the ssd is to go fast, if you don't want to go fast jump off this board back into neppit
>>343997373
Idk how you have that cpu with and gpu
The cpu is good. What's your budget?
Realistically the only options are the 480 or the 1070. Though a 390/390x is fine if you can find it on the cheap.
I'm waiting on the 490 so I can wait with my 760 for now.
>>343997754
the rx 480 is the amd budget 1080p card, not the rx 470
>>343997870
the 8800 gts was a hand me down
under 300 ideally
>>343998002
>under 300 ideally
So yea the 8gb 480 or a cheaper 390/390x is the best you can do if you must have a card now.
>>343997373
tfw my 8800 GTS died ages ago.
>>343998094
if i can wait, how long of a wait we talking about? Also, the 480 seems to be sold out most places.
thanks for the help btw
>have to wait for non-reference 480s
This is suffering
>>343998213
two weeks and then the aftermarket 480s come out
>>343998279
i can do that, no sweat
any particular brand i should look out for?
>>343998225
maybe the board partners will fix the fire hazard, or AMD will just gimp all the cards with a driver as they've hinted at
Is a 950 good for a $1200 budget
>>343998337
msi, sapphire, gigabyte, powercolor+
fuck asus, nice mobos but fuckall gpus for both nvidia and amd
>>343998393
950 is the new 750ti, it's for nvidia poorfags who buy pre-built computers
>>343998393
No.
The 960 was a bad card when it was new, let alone now.
>>343998337
Sapphire is the best brand. MSI is good too. I also heard powercolor is good now which surprised me tbqh.
>>343998393
1500 got me this last year, it's probably doable on 12 now
My friend is willing to see me one of his 560ti cards for $200. What Case can i get thats good for $100?
>>343998393
How are you budgeting 1200 in a 950 rig? Are you buying an expensive monitor, kB and mouse?
Btw bro there's still negligible difference between an i5's performance and an i7.
>>343998716
>250 msrp
not bad at all, think this might be a day 1 buy for me.
>>343998943
people say this but then try playing Planetside 2 or some other really CPU bound game and regret losing frames over i5 vs i7
not saying the i7 is worth it if all you do is gaymen but it does have it's benefits
>>343998894
Fractal R4 or R5 no window
>>343998943
Ive got a i7 6700k and a ASrock z170 pro mobo
>>343999104
>buying an expensive mobo from asrock
>>343998894
>560ti cards for $200
Is that a joke?
>>343998894
>560ti
>$200
I'm pretty sure you can get a brand new stronger card for cheaper than that.
>>343999276
here's what happens to asrock mobos when a poorfag gets their hands on one
and to think the faggot who owned pic related had a 750ti stuck in there, I'm amazed it even worked considering the mobo's state prior to sticking in that 480
>>343998894
>>343999372
>>343999430
Seriously
Don't give your faggot friend more than 50 bucks for his piece of shit used 560ti
>>343999494
>480 in that shitcan
fire hazard but not as bad as pic related
>>343999494
Are you sure it isn't the 480 that's wreckin that mobo?
I heard they are frying motherboards left and right
>>343999494 Okay ive been recommended a H110MX-S by Foxconn aswell so i guess ill buy that instead.
>>343999671
I see the tabasco sauce! It's shit as thermal paste, mustard is actually better.
>>343999786
Have you seen the posts? His computer was a wreck to begin with.
>>343999807
>buying a non-OC mobo when you have an overclockable cpu
mismatched, either get a non-OC skylake or get an OC mobo
>>343999807
>buying Foxconn in 2016
>>343995886
>>343996462
Not only is the 960 obsolete now, it's been obsolete since launch. Day 1 it was outclassed by the 280X for the same price or cheaper, and the 380 kept it going. It's never been a good card for its price.
Anyway, go for a Sapphire Nitro 480 8GB when that comes out, or a good 970 if you can find it for around $240 or cheaper. Or you can wait a little longer and pay a little more to get a little more performance with the GTX 1060. Wait for an EVGA ACX cooled model if you're going for that one.
THAT FEEL WHEN I BOUGHT A 980TI DAYS BEFORE THE 1080 WAS ANNOUNCED
>>344000585
Probably pretty good I bet.
I'm looking to replace my 760 and I figured a 970-1070 would be good but why the fuck are 980s as or more expensive as 1070s? Why is the 1070 $450+ when it was revealed at a $370 MSRP? And why are 980ti a bit cheaper than regular 980?
>>344001146
>Why is the 1070 $450+ when it was revealed at a $370 MSRP?
Nvidia lied.
>And why are 980ti a bit cheaper than regular 980?
That I find unlikely.
>>344001146
there's a 980 on newegg right now for 330 bucks.
>>344001146
Nvidia decided to release the Founder Edition, a reference card charger over MSRP. The AIB partners decided that they don't have to listen to the MSRP, since the only alternative is to buy the Founders Edition. Also the supply for both is fucking low, and the result is 1080s selling for $2000 on Amazon.
>>344001795
>Nvidia decided to release the Founder Edition
More like chump edition - that ancient cooler can't even maintain boost clocks for long. Funnily enough it can hold them juuuuuuust long enough for the typical review benchmark.
Hell the new high bandwidth sli bridges are just two of the old ones bolted together.
>>343998805
>2gb 980ti
What
>>344002406
speccy always reports the memory wrong on 980tis
>>344001320
Well the ones I've seen are the OC models, which are cheaper by around 30-50
>>344001623
The stock model though. I could also get the MSi armor 2x but my CPU is just a 4430, not a K, so having an OC card would be pointless
So, if I've only got $200 - $300 to spare, a non-reference RX 480 will do?
>>344002652
> so having an OC card would be pointless
Thats now how things work.
>>344002705
I would wait and see how this PCIe power draw issue blows over, AMD might gimp the card in drivers to keep it under specs
>paid £250 for GTX 970 a month after release
>GTX 1070 of the same model is £430
If this is how it's going to be from now on, then the industry is fucking dead. End it all.
>>344002705
I wouldn't buy AMD even if you put a gun to my head
>>344002715
Why not though? Wouldn't my CPU bottleneck a 980 OC?
>>344002705
Yup. Aftermarket will have 8pin and a better cooler so the nvidia shills have nothing. Skip reference
>>344002978
Tfw I bought a reference 290 for 180 bucks and then got an aftermarket cooler for 20 bucks for it
>200 bucks for one of the best GPUs I've used
What happened the past 2 gens man, was looking bright once they talked about him and now it's just ass
>>343996778
apparently once the non-reference 480's come out with the 8-pin connectors this will no longer be an issue.
>>344003059
Some games will eat as much hardware as you can throw at them. Plus resolution is a huge factor into where a bottleneck can occur. If you play at 4k for example cpu is irrelevant as no gpu is fast enough for cpu to matter (see pic).
Equally at lower resolutions a cpu can indeed throttle a gpu, but thats a bit more complicated to address.
Lastly you are ALWAYS bottlenecked somehwere along the line - be it your cpu, gpu or potentially HDD or ram. Until you have components that are infinitely fast there will always be a slow part of the chain.
>>344003457
>Equally at lower resolutions a cpu can indeed throttle a gpu, but thats a bit more complicated to address.
So if I have a 1080p monitor then getting a 1070 is actually detrimental even if I plan on getting a better one?
>>344004820
if you're doing 1080p still with that card, get a 144hz one and DSR 1440 or 4K depending on the game
>>344004820
It will never be detrimental - just merely ineffecient. If you plan on upgrading your monitor soon then buying the gpu now makes no real difference.
Why was the 1060 so bad?
