>peace walker is a grindfest with cringe inducing story and voice acting and piss easy gameplay
>It's universally loved
>V is all of those things but bigger and nicer
>It's loathed
Explain this.
Peace Walker had actual boss fights.
>>343974269
>It's universally loved
By whom? I've never seen anybody praising the downgrade in combat/stealth and killing a dozen variations of the same boss to earn stupid weapons that don't change anything
>>343974269
people actually expected mgsv to be good
Peacewalker is a P tasty piece candy.
V is a filet mignon that was dropped on the floor, burnt to a crisp, and shit on by the waiter.
Liking peace walker is contrarian
V is new
You do the math
Peace Walker was a nail in the coffin of what MGS used to be. V was the dirt over it.
>The fate of destruction is also the joy of rebirth
Both are okay, just not what we expected or what was marketed.
>>343977479
>Peacewalker is a P tasty piece candy.
>GUYS THE BOSS IS STILL ALIVE HER CONSCIOUSNESS IS UPLOADED TO A SUPERCOMPUTER
You have to admit those stealth vehicle bosses with the squads of enemies are annoying as fuck after a while.
>>343974269
>i have a different opinion than most about a popular game
>i have a different opinion than most about another popular opinion
Literally your entire post, familia.
>>343974269
better story
co-op
wide variety of side-ops besides personnel extraction
david hayter
>>343977745
I just wanted to fight against an army of terrorists with a couple of crazy generals as bosses.
Instead we got grand theft africa with 4 hours of an old man with throat cancer rambling on about vocal cord parasites and archaebacteria.
My inner microbiologist was screaming
>>343974269
Peace Walker was a fucking PSP game. Yet it still managed to have all the trademark Metal Gear elements from boss fights to torture scenes and even the infamous "Metal Gear!?" quote along with extensive dialogue and a fleshed out story that advanced the overall plot. All things that TPP lacked. PW was a great bridge between MGS3 and MG1 storywise. The whole premise of TPP is convoluted answers to questions that nobody fucking asked or cared about.
And the gameplay wasn't even that good. It removed a bunch of shit from MGS4 and open-world was a detriment to the game in every way.
>>343977745
Peace Walker was fucking exactly what was marketed.
>>343978225
>David Hayter
After what he became after Kief replaced him, I don't even give a shit about the guy. He was great in all the other games, but he lost his shit after losing his roll. Fuck all the workplace politics about it all.
>>343979204
same hayter can fuck off at this point
what a cunt
>>343974269
V stripped the fun out of Metal Gear.
From the gameplay to the story, everything was way too serious and what levity there was, wasn't the same as before.
Peace walker has fun stupid shit and Co op
Metal Gear is dead anyway just let your frustrations go
>peace walker is universally loved
like hell it is. 5 is better simply because it's not a handheld game
>>343978225
>better story
Fuck no. Robot Boss was just moronic.
>>343976170
HAHAHAHAHAMGSV definitely had fewer but most were actual MGS fights instead of just being bullet sponge mechs. Man on Fire and Quiet were great fights.
>>343979708
>Man on fire
Literally just shoot a water tank
>Quiet
Drop a supply crate and you're a winner
I prefer bulletsponges than fucking gimmicks
>>343979513
better than no bosses at all
>>343979513
No more moronic than a fucking surgically altered hypnotized medic body double. At least BB had character development in PWs story.
>>343979809
Infinitely better than "shoot at it until it dies."
>>343974269
One is portable so it's acceptable
>>343979513
Robot Boss is in V as well idiot.
>>343979985
>shoot at it until it dies
THATS WHAT A FUCKING BOSS IS YOU ASSHOLE
>>343979809
>Drop a supply crate and you're a winner
Yeah, there's multiple tactics for defeating her just like a good MGS boss fight. I'm sure you didn't figure that out yourself.
>taking a bulletsponge over anything
Invalidated your argument right there.
>>343979985
Yeah, fuck actual combat.
>>343979985
>boss shouldnt be bosses
I bet you like QTE bosses
To be honest if I passed Kojima on the street is probably kill him then and there out of pity. His games get worse and worse, expectations get higher and higher, his wife won't even speak to him and the tide of public opinion is rapidly turning on him.
Hell, at this point it's an open secret that his kid isn't related to him in any way. Maybe the world would be better off without any kojimas.
>>343976170
And they were garbage
V's one fight with Sally is more fun than the entirety of Peace Walker and its shitty handheld gameplay
>>343980161
>>343980275
If they weren't glorified equipment checks I would agree. PW bosses aren't any fun to fight because you either cheese them or you spend most of the time waiting for supply drops.
>>343974269
>Peace Walker
>Story about Big Boss achieving his dream of an army without borders, fit to have their own beliefs and aren't ruled by any government or system and can't be used like dogs
>Meets many unique characters along the way who each add to the story and give the game a sense of humor amongst the seriousness
>Motherbase is thriving, have all day to do activities, such as train, develop technology, play soccer, fish, have parties and go on missions
>Tons of side missions and dialogue
>MGSV
>Paz is dead
>Chico is dead
>Amanda is gone
>Cecile is gone
>Strangelove is dead
>Huey is tortured relentlessly
>Kaz is a mentally scarred cripple
>the only humor comes from HAMBURGERS
>the game wasn't finished
>You don't even play as Big Boss
Fuck MGSV
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>>343974269
>Peace Walker
>universally loved
>>343980283
the skulls ARE qte bosses
>>343980623
we got a hueyfag here, boys
>>343979809
>Psycho Mantis
Literally just switch the controller around.
>The End
Change the system clock and you're a winner.
>>343974269
Quiet triggered /v/ so hard that they never recovered.
>>343981221
>2 bosses from 2 different games vs 50% of the "bosses" from a single game
Great argument.
>>343974269
MGSV was my 1st Metal Gear. I just think it stunk regardless of it's history.
>PW is universally loved
Hahahahaha
the only people who liked it were PSP fags trying to justify their purchase over a DS, PW is fucking garbage
I've liked PW since it came out. Sorry guys. It was always a super comfy game to me. I 100% that shit.
neo/v/ has shit taste, and is too busy playing MOBAs and fellating e-celebs.
>>343982234
>justify their purchase over a DS
Pretty sure every single PSP owner in the world was an idort and MonHun more than justified the purchase. Not saying its library was as good as the DS but man if you didnt have a PSP you were missing out.
>>343979809
My first time fighting Quiet was pretty intense imo since I didn't know what to expect.
Sniper duel is the way to go.
>>343974269
Peace Walker has co-op multiplayer.
>>343983364
Ya I got a psp just for FU, but holy shit does peace walker suck. People were saying it was their favorite before it was exposed on the HD version. Same thing happened to kingdom Hearts BBS, this is why I think it's post purchase justification
>>343981954
Those two are fun bosses that can be cheezed, you fucking dumbass
arguing that quiet is a shit boss because you could drop a supply drop on her pre-patch is just as shit as arguing that The End is bad because you can win without doing a single bit of gameplay
MGS V honestly is better than 99% of the drivel that shooters are nowadays, it had a unique system, with a good story and pretty interesting boss situations
It just doesn't have 1 hr cutscenes about some autistic patriot system so all the solid snakeniggers are triggered and hate it
>PW only had AI bosses!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2jCz4VnC2Q
>Le V is bad meme
My second favorite MGS
>>343974269
People have much lower standards for handheld games.
>>343985737
V is the third best MGS, behind 3 and 1
>>343985737
Same here. What's your favorite? Mine is3
>>343985737
1 > 3 > V > 2 >>>>>>>>>> 4
>mfw playing Peace Walker with one thumbstick on the PSP.
FUCK PEACE WALKER
>>343985737
I have it in fourth place, but I still love it a lot. Just not as much as the first three. The shitposting it gets is ridiculous.
>>343985934
The original can't ever be topped in my nostalgia-filled heart
V never had a chance
>Having a nice day out on the town.
>Suddenly remember MGSV exists.
>Ruins my day.
Kojima truly rused me.
>>343986348
Must suck to have bad taste in video games.
>loved peace walker
>loved the shit out of v
>mfw nostalgiafags btfo
>>343986348
going outside was your first mistake
>>343986436
That's some severe battered wife syndrome you've got there.
>>343986643
Nah, that's MGS 4 fags.
MGS V is great.
>>343974269
Expectations weren't as high for PW, partly because it came out only a couple years after MGS4 and there simply wasn't enough time for the hype to build that much, but also because it was "only" (a shitty excuse, really) a PSP game.
But Peace Walker also had a lot more variety and personality, and it was generally better-paced and had a less irritating structure. I think MGSV is the better game simply because sneaking isn't quite so broken, but I can understand why someone might prefer PW. Especially if they were fond of co-op.
>>343986348
How can a video game ruin your day so suddenly?it ruined my life and I never forget it.
>>343989090
>He thinks he knows what it's like for a video game to utterly ruin your life
I bet my life savings on duke.
>>343974269
When does the cutscene when Snake rubs ashes on his face happen? I'm about to fight skull face, but never saw it.
>>343990803
Later, you'll see. It's one of a few remaining post "end" cutscenes.
MGS4>MGSV
Fight me.
MGSV was such a fucking let down that I compare the disappointment with Mass Effect 3
Peace Walker was universally hated on here pre-MGSV. It's still pretty hated.
>>343992108
>Universally hated
Shut the fuck up.
>>343980590
The fight with salt was literally identical to the Zeke battle
>>343991265
I think MGS4 is worse than MGSV in nearly every respect.
MGSV at least has the oil refinery, the mansion, and OKB Zero. MGS4 has fuck all. Not even the first two acts are that good. The only decent sneaking is the first part of Act 5.
>>343974269
PW was shit because of the loading screens every 20 yards, the boss fights were mooks in vehicles, and it was on the fucking PSP.
>>343992834
No it was worse, at least Zeke had multiple hardpoints you could damage to stun or immobilize it along with the flame thrower dick
Sally was literally a huge bullet spoinge
>>343992834
Sure, if you completely ignore every different aspect in the actual gameplay of the games.
>>343991265
I won't disagree. All V had to do was take the first two acts of 4 and expand on them. If it was just like... 10-20 maps of that same quality, I would have been thrilled.
Instead they screwed the pooch. They held that poor pooch down and reamed its asshole raw.
>ask people on /v/ what they wanted from MGSV story
>sniper wolf
>gray fox
>solid snake
>n313
Goddammnit I hate the metal gear community the amount of people who genuinely give MGSV shit for not being phantom menace astounds me
MGS4 proves the fanservice is unbearable
Could I play V without playing any other of the games and still enjoy it?
I think the thing no one understands is there was nothing V could've added to the story.
3 was already more than enough to explain Big Boss falling into evil. He saw soldiers being used as a tool so he wanted to find a perfect life for them.
Peace Walker explains him getting the army and has him rejecting The Boss, and embracing the usage of nuclear weaponry.
That's it. That's the end of Big Boss character. There was nothing more about him you could've learned.
V instead opted to be about the players legacy, which was a good choice, but Kojima should have learned from Raiden that making players think more about a story than MUH BOSS SO BADASS XD will result in them crying for 10 years.
Venom Snake is a more compelling protagonist than Big Boss btw.
>>343993341
Absolutely. It plays nothing like any of the other ones, and is fairly disconnected from the rest of the games, although the ending is some metatextual shit that makes more sense if you've played the franchise for years.
>>343993341
You would honestly probably enjoy it more without all the baggage.
In that case though its just a really good 7/10
I love that the three most common complaints about Metal Gear was that the plots were convoluted, it was hard to play one on its own, and that there were too many cutscenes
V gets rid of all of that and improved the quality of the gameplay and voice acting so it's the worst in the franchise
Boss, get down!
>>343993641
>>343993663
Ok thanks guys
>Real time base development
Ruined a lot of this for me.
>>343993169
Run around in circles, shoot with rocket, call in supply drop, take cover so railgun doesn't kill you, destroy missiles fired slowly at you.
Which boss did I just tell you how to beat? Sally or Zeke?
>>343993783
>V
>Getting rid of convoluted plots
>Story hard to play on its own
lol no.
The game starts off totally assuming you beat peace walker and got the true ending.
>>343994535
no it doesn't. GZ does a perfect job of explaining whats happening.
I'm a fan of this series that has played all the games over so many times, from MG 1 to 4.
I haven't played peace walker, and i never will. and I understood what was happening perfectly.
>>343994460
the motherbase stuff was just a bad decision in both games, all of that stuff should have just been left to cutscenes.
There's no way to do that kind of stuff without either giving it all away at once, and making it pointless, or making it an unlockable call of duty phone game grind, which is just as bad.
pw story >>>>>>>>> pp story
>>343977793
ai based on the boss because the ai scientist loved her not uploaded consciousness you dipshit
>>343979513
literally nothing wrong with it
plenty wrong with medic boss, skull face, cut content, ocelot, etc
>>343993539
I sort've agree, but I don't think venom should have been an insert for the player. I think venom should have been a fleshed out character that suffers with big bosses memories and his own actual memories of who he was prior to waking up in V.
Make the game about the horror of warfare when it's not you working for an organization that's "good", similar to what raiden was, but different. Go more in depth with the personality disassociation, make things seem like theyre real when we find out later they aren't, make venom struggle with his own identity and being big boss the whole time. I think these are themes that were in V but were super shallow, the farthest it goes is with paz's tapes, which imo is one of the best parts of the game.
Not only would players have come to appreciate venom, but they'd get to first hand witness what big bosses decisions to save himself actually mean to someone other than himself, when youre on the other side of it.
good version of venom: mgs2 raiden
venom is a cuck
>>343996869
This is what I thought the game was gonna be about, and like you said it's implied, but Kojima isn't a good enough writer to pull it off, that type of story takes subtlety. Visually he could convey all of this, but I don't think he could check his ego and let someone else write that for him.
I'm not disappointed because of the lack of head canon pandering we didn't get, I thought we were gonna get a melancholic, PTSD, split personality mgs with lots of fucked up visuals and the possibility of venom being the device to convey that big boss is a warmongering piece of shit from a fresh perspective, but unfortunately, I don't think Kojima has the humility to ever tarnish his characters like that. So instead he opted for some pseudo vague on the fence "guess it's up to you to decide ;^)" ending while hammering home all the details and killing his own story's mystery.
>>343974269
PW isn't universally loved the only people who like it are cocksucking kojimadrones who self insert into the shitty anime story and pretend miller and paz are their friends
>>343979204
What happened?
>>343997613
>first mission is some PTSD hallucination-filled nightmare horror
>the game never does anything like it ever again
I wish moby dick hallucinations were present in the entire game
>>343997613
Yeah, the thought of this being what the game was actually about saddens more more than the idea of getting big boss to become anakin skywalker.
I was fully ready for a darker MGS, even all the lighting effects make it seem like something is wrong with venom, I assumed that's why those were put in there. and like >>343997643
said. These things are NEVER touched on again, why does venom's rage manifest itself via moby dick hallucinations? does it have something to do with his own personality? why doesn't it ever happen again? Why does venom randomly see skullface standing amongst his soldiers as if he was really there?
at this point i'm just ranting and frustrating myself with would be's.
It's nice to know there's other mgs fans that wanted a better game than BIG BOSS NUCLEAR SKYWALKER though.
>>343997613
>>343998531
sorry meant to quote >>343997818
>>343998531
Never considered this.
The game isn't vague enough to leave you wondering if any of it is real in a satisfying way.
Game isn't explained enough to leave you stuffed like an mgs game usually does.
It's just a lukewarm sortve feeling where you're not really full or left wanting more.
>>343994481
zeke, I killed sally with d-walker minigun
>>343974269
They didn't like the addition of ghost and how he was in it for five seconds.
The bosses being shitty vehicles sucked, but besides that peace walker is a damn good game.
Everytime i see someone try to explain why they think its not good they are at a loss for words and seem like complete retards
>>344001081
you sound fucking retarded
its literally a shitty game even when put into the context of a franchise like MGS that has ALWAYS been behind in everything, whether it be stealth, tps gameplay or graphics
PW is a downgrade from the mainline games in every way because its a fucking mobile game that still apparently wanted to be a TPS- the controls are ass, the CQC is worse than in fucking MGS3, you cant crawl, the AI is hilariously bad, the entire motherbase bullshit is tacked on and handled horribly, every "boss" is a rocketsponge with zero challenge to them and the entire post maingame content towards zeke is horrendous enough even when compared to the rest of the shitty game that most people who mustered the will to get there stopped before fighting zeke
>>343974269
>It's loathed
I got a huge amount of enjoyable time out of it. Too bads it's unfinished.
>>343974269
PW was somewhat decent for a PSP MGS.
Last year I replayed 2, 3 and 4 back to back and then playing PW felt like a massive letdown.
GZ was fucking awesome though, but I haven't played V yet.
>>343983554
My first time f ighting Quiet I sat in an armoured car and wondered wtf was going on and drove off.
>>344002690
isn't there a cutscene that takes you out of your vehicle when you reach her place?
Does PW reference MGS4 at all? Can I play it without playing 4 having played through 3?
>>343974269
PW is a fucking PSP game, I expected fucking nothing but got a game I found fun for a lot of hours. Yeah the story was weird but when was it ever not weird in MGS
PW also somehow managed to feel more like an MGS than V.
V is a Metal Gear Solid in name only but plays like some open world splinter cell gone wrong
>>343993291
>the missing link in the metal gear saga
Yeah, this sounds like something that should have absolutely no fanservice whatsoever
>>344002907
I think there was but I just jumped right back in and shot a bit at her and drove off.
>>344002909
PW is set after 3 so I think it should not mention 4.
>>344002909
>>344003641
PW has indirect references to 4, which is natural since it was made after 4.
Just like MGS3 references MGS2 despite being in the past.
MGS as a series is more about themes than anything
>>343993291
Fuck off, what everyone wanted was the story about how Big Boss became who he was in the early entries. You know, the actual missing link and also what the trailers seemed to imply.
Instead we got
>YOU are the Big Bossu xDI will never get over it.
>>344002909
It references one of the big twists from 4.
>>343984826
>pre-patch
They didn't patch that out did they?
>>343974269
>V is loathed
can we end this meme? it was great
Peacewalker fucking blows.
MGS5 is an amazing game. The gameplay in it is probably as close to perfect as I think any game in this genre is ever going to get.
The only reason to shit on it is because the mission structure gets repetitive, there isn't a strong narrative, and fulton is stupid and trivializes gameplay. The GMP and Mother base systems also largely exist for no real reason and it never works well. You just call down supply drops constantly whenever you need a new suppressor and you never get spotted. Skullface and the Skulls with the Man on Fire are far too underdeveloped as villains. It often feels like you're just doing odd jobs for petty cash instead of going after a villain in typical metal gear fashion
The more I think about it, I kind of like the Venom reveal. I don't think it was good, but I like that it was foreshadowed a lot.
It just sucks it wasn't finished.
>>344005116
It was your first MGS wasn't it
>>343993291
The thing is, Sniper Wolf was a perfect fit.
She could've filled the role of quiet as your firesupport, but instead Kojima wanted to have more VOCAL CHORD PARASITES.
Your interactions with Eli are fucking stupid and full of holes.
I also expected to be building Outer Heaven and not Mother Base.
It's just full of what I can only assume are intentional missed opportunities.
You can't have your cake and eat it too. Big Boss used child soldiers. It's in the canon. So when you have him rescuing child soldiers from lives of being soldiers it's incredibly hypocritical.
>>344005437
I dont get you people wanting people like Sniper Wofe and Grey Fox in MGSV when they barely handled Liquid and Mantis correctly
Its better as its own contained story seperate from the mainline
>>343992901
This actually. When I did that sneaking section in act 5 I was thinking "finally, a chance for the game to show off proper stealth"
Then it ended in under 3 minutes and I was forced to walk through about a hundred corridors.
>>344005867
Because there really is no narrative to MGS5.
The -only- thing that has any relevance that's even done remotely well is "The Truth" ending.
That's it.
Everything else is useless fluff that adds nothing to the canon.
Which is whats dissapointing.
I'm not saying its fanservice, it was stuff that was established in the previous games. Sniper Wolf had contact with big boss and refers to him as Saladin and having saved her. She's Kurdish, which while a stretch to Afghanistan, is based around the middle east.
Perfect fit. Timeline fit. Setting fit.
The only reason she's not is probably that Kojima just forgot about her.
Thats probably it. So we got Quiet, who was useless in terms of story, and mostly just the exact same fanservice you're bitching about, just another kind.
Eli/Mantis in conjunction with Sahelanthropus is probably the single most retarded thing I've seen in a video game and really any media. It detracts from the experience but not enough to make MGS5 anything less than an 8.
>>344002909
play 4 first, PW kinda assumes you know the big twist of mgs4.
>Game has x and y which I don't like
>GAME IS TOTALLY SHIT WITH NOTHING TO REDEEM ITSELF BECAUSE OF X AND Y
>LET'S JUST IGNORE EVERYTHING GOOD ABOUT IT AND MEME IT TO DEATH BECAUSE IT'S SHIT
Some of you couldn't make a balanced idea about something to save your life. Always with the extremes.
Both Peace Walker and V have their glaring flaws, but that doesn't make them bad games.
Flawed games sure, but not bad. No game is perfect.
>>344006352
/v/ can only speak in hyperbole, you should know this by now
>Wanted a game of Big Boss in Outer Heaven
>Sneaking missions throughout various different areas in Africa trying to combat the various proxy wars started by Zero
>Final mission of the game would have had you playing as a young Solid Snake, infiltrating Outer Heavem at the command of 'Fox Hound'
>Game ends on a boss battle between Snake (you) and Big Boss, mirroring the battle between The Boss and Naked Snake in MGS 3
>Big Boss makes Snake choose between loyalty to his father or loyalty to his organisation and his mission>Bonus fanservice is Snake being voice by Hayter
Instead we got an angry Hungarian linguistic-nationalist who wanted to destroy the English language because of Russian and German imperialism destroying his country.
The fanbase wanted Metal Gear and we got some bastardised /int/ wet dream.
>>344005867
>barely handled Liquid and Mantis correctly
>Mantis
It's been a while but wasn't he "normal" smug bastard in MGS? Phantom Meme made him into some vegetable god-child responding to strong emotions of others.
How is it well handled? Might as well have been a completely new character.
>>344006537
I fucking hate the mgs 4 fan service /v/ cries for, but I legitimately wanted a snake vs bb showdown.
>>343974269
there is no reason for 5 pp to exist. its not even 5 pp its another prequel. 4 is still the last installment of the official story since 5 rr wasnt made by konami
since 5 isnt the end it has to add to a already convoluted segment of the story. ocelot has a stupid role for the sake of fooling the ai's. not the high point of the series
peace walker builds on 3 which is one of the most loved in the series. explaining more about who the woman who trained big boss was and the transition to hes considered a bad guy. pw is basically fanfare for 3 fans
>>344005208Peacewalker is MGS5. We're talking about MGSV
>>343974269
PW still ranks around the bottom of popularity polls, people just appreciate it more after MGSV being such a letdown. The problem is that MGSV took all the negative aspects of PW like shit bosses and grinding, then stripped all the things PW did well like interesting tapes and focus on characters. I don't think PW has a great cast or story either, and MGSV has great gameplay, but one is much closer to a metal gear game than the other.
Peace Walker was total shit.
Dumbed down AI
Dumbed down sneaking
Shitty repetitive bosses
More repeating missions than V and more reused areas.
All of this gets handwaved because its a handheld game but the fact is if a shitty 333mhz CPU couldn't handle a Metal Gear game, they shouldn't have made one for it.
>>343986703
fuck how have i not seen this yet
>>343974269
When he made PW2.0, he forgot to include thefun
>>343979809
>I prefer bulletsponges than fucking gimmicks
I'm sorry but you are fucking retarded. MGS always had gimmicky bosses and I'm not defending gimmicky bosses in general, they were just so well done.
This bickering reminds me of Yorm the Giant and Ancient Wyvern from Dark Souls 3. Literally all the bitching were from people who played the game with a guide. Especially Ancient Wyvern was challenging as hell to actually find the spot to jump.
Quiet is like The End, only better. Sniper Parasite Unit on Hardcore is one of the toughest and most balanced bosses ever. Sahalanthropus is the best Metal Gear boss in the whole franchise.
>>343982160
>MGSV was my 1st Metal Gear. I just think it stunk regardless of it's history.
How. I'm seriously interested. It's possibly the BEST stealth game I have ever played.
>>343979809
>>343979985
Both of you are wrong.
What the fuck is up with these extremes?
Anybody heard of fucking balance?
>>343986068
Is it really that bad?
>It's universally loved
>>344008597
If any MG game is your favorite stealth game the chances are overwhelming that you're under 18.
>>344009475
>If any MG game is your favorite stealth game the chances are overwhelming that you're under 18.
oh please. In a thread full of bullshit one liners I actually make a couple of points and I'm under 18 ?
Fags who are upset about gimmicky bosses are fags who played the games with a guide. This goes for Dark Souls as well. Because the bosses were very smartly designed. That said V mechanically is pretty much the best stealth game ever made. Not even a question. Naked missions are the best experience I have ever had since playing the first Thief in 98.
>>343976170
They were punching bags that took so much damage it was obvious it was made for co-op.
They weren't bosses, just targets to shoot at.
>>343978225
>david hayter
Precisely another reason to hate PW.
Not to mention that, even though Hayter is absolutely horrible VA with has no range, he was specially awful in PW.
>better story
>muh boss for a third time
Fuck no.
>>343980275
That wasn't combat, though.
>>344010152
>Fuck no.
yep. that's one of the worse things to do in any franchise. take a character that's been done with and fuck with them again. it takes away all the drama and the closure etc etc.
How Snake reacts to the water boiler Boss was probably the lowest point of Metal Gear. Not as bad as bringing Cortana back but still.
>>344010521
That's one of the things I liked from MGSV and that made me dissapointed that Venom wasn't Big Boss, he saw the pod, and he didn't give a single fuck, I thought he was over it, or at least, as ''over it'' as Big Boss can be over The Boss, but no, if Venom was the real one, he would have probably started crying or something.
>>344010152
Yeah i have to agree. I just started peace walker for the first time today, david hayter is noticeably bad in this.
I can see why he was replaced for 5. Some of his lines are cringeworthy with his delivery.
>>343974269
>Peace Walker
>universally loved
Time to lay off the phantom cigar, bruv. Peace Walker is almost universally REVILED. Only a small group of enlightened patricians understand its beaty.
>>344010673
The problem was he tried too hard at making a rough voice, it feels like he's always going to break into a fit of cough, but never happens.
Then when he's actually supposed to cough, it feels like he's going to puke.
>>344010616
>>344010521
I actually enjoyed that scene a lot. I thought it was cool as fuck and had a very frankenstein feel to it. Venom surely remembers what it is, but he has no emotional attachment to it.
>>343974269
>peace walker
>universally loved
Wut
it's trash
>>344010760
yeah, he sounded like a mixture between old snake without the exhaustion in his voice that snake had in 4, and mgs 3, but bad.
I'm having a good time with the game because it's new and i'm that big of an mgs fanboy, but this game is pretty bad, I like the idea of costa rica, but i really wish this was an actual mainline game, and didn't have all this dumb motherbase shit.
>>344010616
>and he didn't give a single fuck
Naked Snake shouldn't have given a single fuck either. It was a cringe fest. It would have made sense if he had amnesia but no, let's have snake throw a text book autistic fit because of his sentimental attachment to a thing.
>>343991265
I agree, at least 4 was funny
V is only hated by autistic shitstains.
>>344011284
/thread tbqh
>>343974269
>>It's universally loved
no, it's a decent mg for being on a portable console
mgsV has no excuses
>>343974269
Because Peace Walker was an actual Metal Gear game.
>>344011284
this honestly
>all these people complaining about vehicle fights and bullet sponge bosses in PW
There are three (3) vehicle bosses in the story missions and they are all piss easy even with the complementary launcher the game gives you for free. If you played the optional EXTRA-ops missions, you have only yourself to blame.
The robot bosses are only sponges if you were too dumb to research even one alternative/higher level launcher.
People who didn't play the game but want to parrot memes, I swear.
>>344006171
>Because there really is no narrative to MGS5.
sure there is, you're just whining because there wasn't enough fanservice
>>344012513
No it wasn't. There's literally no stealth to the game. You can't even crawl. It's a Facebook mini game.
>>344012513
MGS4 was the last real MGS
MGS2 was the last pure MGS
Everything after is just DLC
>>344011907
>mgsV has no excuses
V is unapologetically awesome
>>343974269
Peace Walker had fun side ops
V didn't
>>343991265
Nope.
At least V was fun.
4 was a disgrace where every single second of all the cutscenes was specifically designed to destroy the entire franchise.
It's by far, the worst ending to a franchise i've ever seen, and a legitimately bad and boring game.
