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>he killed Wrex
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>>343945807
>he never recruited Garrus
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>he saved Kaidan
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>he romanced creator's pet
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He romanced the worst girl
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>He liked the characters and world and thought his choices would mean something and come to a satisfying conclusion
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>>343947253
Forgot the meme arrows
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Holy shit, Bioware used to actually be able to model faces. What happened? Frostbite?
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>>343947395
I was pretty blown away the first time I saw ME, especially compared to seeing this for years
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>>343947349
I but the guy in your post buys (or pirates) Andromeda.
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>>343947253
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNYHzmoH57M

jesus fuck

maximum comfort
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Fifteen hundred is good, your captain will be pleased.
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>>343947253
Tali's best, though.
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>>343945807
Krogan cock!
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>>343945807
>>343946639
>>343947150
>killed Wrex (actually I let Bailey kill him lol)
>saved Kaidan
>romanced Liara
oh, forgot one
>killed Mordin
All this on a paragon run. Did I do good bros?
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>>343948240
I fucking heard it.

RIP, true best Turian. We really did hardly know you.
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>>343947253
That is totally objectively wrong.
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> he romanced the best girl
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>>343946639
To be fair it was the right choice. Any squadmate that isn't a biotic in ME3 is fucking worthless.
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>>343949734
>dialog implies bi at least
>hetero only

why?

Same shit with cassandra and her dyke hair
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what do you guys think will become of andromeda i mean if i can be honest dragon age inquisition was okay so i think it's a 50/50 of being good at this point
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>>343947253
I fucking hate Tali so much. I was hoping she would die in the suicide mission but she did not.
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>>343950307
if they can add more depth to the envorinments... maybe. Part of what drew me to ME was how in depth the world and characters were, with a whole new galaxy you may as well have pissed all that away
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Wrex is sadly enough the only krogan worth saving and saving him is not worth unleashing the krogan upon the galaxy
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I AM THE VERY LEGEND OF A SCIENTIST SALARIAN
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>>343947253

You are afraid of girls in real life.
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>>343947362
>>343947253

>He forgot to green text
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>>343951354

this famalam

also the quarians can get fucked, you don't get to just launch an all out suicide attack on the geth right after the reapers attack and expect any support from me
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>>343953510
Yet you support toasters who sided with galactic holocaust machines because "muh dyson sphere."
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>>343945807
>not just leaving him on the citadel and never talking to him
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>>343953949

we helped them reach a new consensus though

and they get destroyed in the end anyways
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>>343950307
I want to see more female Turians,.
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>>343947362
>Forgetting the comedy chevrons
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>>343949927
Seriously why the fuck was she straight in ME 2 she says she has been with guys and girls, but lol no just guys in ME 2 and why couldn't you get Samantha drunk in hot tub to have one night of sex as maleshep in ME3 Citadel DLC ?
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>>343955589

because that's rape you fucking misogynistic pig
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>>343955589
eh, I can understand Samara, she had an Asari wife
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>>343946639

>he let a biotic and an officer die in favor of an easily-replaceable grunt
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>>343955891
>liking Bland McWhitebread over the poetry-writing space racist
What a pleb
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>>343956021
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>>343950307

Should be decent.

Dragon Age (outside of Origins) was always dogshit compared to Mass Effect and I don't get the "ME3 was shit meme" when it is better than ME2 in almost every way.

As long as they retain the exploration/RPG elements of ME1 and combat of ME3 then it should be golden. So far, it looks promising.
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>>343946639
I wasn't saving Kaiden, I was killing Trashley.
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What made the ME3 multiplayer so fun /v/?
It's likely I'll pick up Andromeda even if it's just to play it.
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>>343956021
>Bland McWhitebread stays consistent
>poetry-writing space racist becomes a shitty drunk and her jaw grows
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>>343957262
Chalky becomes a bisexual.
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Doing play through of ME

Who is objectively the best romance character as a male?
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>>343957703
They're all shit but at least Liara is willing to do a threesome (nobody else is willing to do a threesome so you don't get one.)
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>>343957703
Tali "Spyin' and Dyin'" vas Whateverthefuck. At least before that halfassed face reveal.
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>>343957703
Wait for Jack.
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>>343957816
I thought everyone hates Tali aside from fanboys.
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>>343957703
Tali by far.
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>>343957703
It doesn't matter. Seriously.
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>>343958034
If you don't contemplate Quarian sweat then you need to get the fuck out, pleb.
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>>343957968
>Jack recruitment mission
>Everyone goes out of their way to avoid calling Jack a "he", even Shepherd who hasn't even met her.
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>>343957703
Liara. For both of them. She's the only one whose romance has a overarching plot throughout the series and is tied to the plot. Everyone else is objectively forced.
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>>343957968
Goddamn she's so sexy
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>>343958125
>Quarian sweat

Explain
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>>343958412
https://forum.bioware.com/topic/228736-talis-sweat/
git reading, boy
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>>343958181
because we aren't 1000% sure any of this will be used before or after we end up meeting her and re-recording voice work is expensive
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>>343946639
i fucking would have if i knew how ashley was going to behave for the next two games
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>>343958181
They don't know her name at all.
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>It's an Ashley sharply inhales mid-sentence episode
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Perfect way to tell if someone is a beta cuck.

Only beta cucks don't like a warrior king like Wrex. They're also the only people that deny the Krogan their release from the Genophage.
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>>343958806
>Bigger tits
>Skirt

You a gay or Talimancer faglord?
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>>343959048
Curing the genophage is literally guaranteeing another massive war
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>>343958181
Wasn't her name Subject Zero or something like that?
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>>343959048
>"yer gon cure muh genophage so I can kids for space welfare."
>"Y-yes sir mr. krogan. Will this mean you'll stop having sex with my wife?"
>"Fuck no bitch, she's riding my four wheel drive stick shift until the day you croak."

Nice deflection, beta.
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>>343959386
Jacqueline nought
Or however its spelt
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>>"Fuck no bitch, she's riding my four wheel drive stick shift until the day you croak."
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>>343947349
That was me senpai, I'll never be that invested in any series again now that I know what can happen to them. Thanks Bioware.
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>>343948240
You remember to zip up your jumpsuit on the way out of the bathroom? That's good. I just jumped us halfway across the galaxy and hit a target the size of a pinhead. So that's incredible!
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>He killed Reks
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>>343959429
I always thought Krogans were space niggers. This makes so much sense.
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>>343948240
>>343959758
FUCK I CAN HEAR IT IN MY HEAD
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>>343948240

I need to see your skills for myself, commander
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Stop making me feel bad the raknai queen was so sexy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KThlYHfIVa8&ab_channel=RWappin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwrZ_frAAcg&ab_channel=Xellith
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>>343957968
Well bang OK
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>>343959247
Yes now I don't feel bad
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>>343955004
My dick
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>it's a bioware game
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>>343947253
Mfw I say her face
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What did she mean by this?
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>>343947150
That was some intense seclx you have to admit
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>>343945807
WHEN WILL THESE GAMES BE AVAILABLE TO PLAY WITH A CONTROLLER ON PC?!??!!


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>343947253
I'm the biggest homosexual on the board and i went with Tali because she was clearly the best and most superior choice of all the female characters since i couldnt bang any of the guys until 3.
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>>343955589
As much as Bioware loves to claim they're LGBT friendly they're actually incredibly homophobic, obviously.
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I want to _____ Garrus.
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>>343945807
>He lets non-humans live
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>>343962204
bite
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>>343957040
No, anon. No. Stahp.
You like men.
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>>343962831
>not being bros with Wrex and Garrus and exclusively using them in your squad
Why even play?
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>>343961387
Why is she covered in white out?
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>>343962204
calibrate
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I loaded an old save just so I could do enough sidequests to get enough charm to save Wrex. Best bro.
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>>343963802
doing a piss poor job of cleaning my poor shitty old Jessie is what

RIP Robin Sachs
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>>343963673
Garrus is too much of a bro to hate, I even feel bad when not using him on my party, but I need my purist Shepard for renegade playtrough.
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>>343947362
>>343947669
>>343948249
>>343949543
>>343952170
>>343961810
>talimancers have infected /v/
Shit this place really is just tumblr for children.
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>>343964706
How is Talimancer supposed to be an insult?
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>>343959758
Why the fuck does he not have a hat in this scene? It's just a split second but it bothers me every goddamn time.
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>>343947150
>liara had the potential to be a really interesting morally grey character who still had a sense of wonderment and desire for discovery about her
>instead she went from an awkward nerd to a stone cold hardass good enough at dealing with people to become one of the most important brokers on a planet full of brokers

Considering how much the dev team obviously loves her, they dropped the ball on her character development ungodly hard. She hardly had any personality in ME3 aside from >muh information. Citadel DLC almost made her interesting a few times but most of that was too unbearable for it to matter.
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>all these assholes picking tali
>romancing their adopted little sister like /b/tard wincesters
>not letting the garrus/tali relationship happen.

I really like Ash. Strong, independent sort of woman, but not a tumblr tier feminist. She's a fellow soldier, and feels more like a peer than an follower if that makes sense.
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>>343965106
it's not grafted onto his head anon, people can take off their hats sometimes... it's not like he's balding or anything
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>>343965524
I still have no fucking clue why they went from having her be a pretty standard female marine who hates strip clubs and straight up says she wouldn't be dead in a catsuit to visible makeup and long flowing hair in battle.
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>>343965513
I always took at as a sign of her accleerated maturing due to watching her mother die, and all the behind the scenes shit that happen with the shadow broker. By the time 3 happens, to see the optimism burned out of her, to see her heart turn to stone, made her one of m favorte characters. Not my romance option, but a good character.

>>343965793
>standard female marine who hates strip clubs
>standard marine hate strip clubs

Doesnt't exist.

But yeah, what do you think happened
>justicar, literally a paladin wears tight red cat suit with her cleavage sticking out
>whatever the fuck miranda wore.
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>>343965793
>No offense but I'm not "just a grunt" anymore Shepard. You're not the only one allowed the change, mr bigshot hero, sir. I've been through just as much as you, hell I wasn't in bed with Cerberus for years doing God knows what while colonists were dissapearing. I'm a SPECTRE, I'm my own woman and I sure as hell don't need your approval... sir.
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>>343956592
>I don't get the "ME3 was shit meme" when it is better than ME2 in almost every way.
ME3 was incredible. The only people who hated it were the ones who somehow expected like 1,000 different endings based on the smallest decisions. Fucking retarded autists sperged out when they """"ONLY"""" got 3 (4 really if you count shooting the kid) choices.

Some people just don't understand that the ending isn't the only thing that matters. It's the journey.

I honestly think people hated ME3's ending because they wanted more. Playing as Shepard was incredibly immersive. The decisions you made felt powerful. Nobody wanted to have to die.
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You got with best human girl, right /v/?
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>>343947253
I will fucking fight you
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>>343966702
The devs promised that most peoples endings would vary slightly on the choices you made, before the extended ending they were all pretty much the same with just a different color and a tiny scene with absolutely no closure.
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>>343966702
>ME3 was incredible.
15 zloty was deposited in your account.
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>>343965793
Bioware seems to have this self-induced hypocrisy going on where they want to represent females as strong, empowered, and loved for more than their looks but at the same time lets you fuck the majority of them and puts them in impractical skin-tight spandex outfits.

It's at odds with the very nature of the medium they want to do, space opera-esque settings always have women in this type of presentation where they exist almost solely for their beauty and sex appeal. And they sure as hell dont seem very interested in subverting this.
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>>343964706
What's it like literately having no taste in good vidya girls whatsoever?
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>>343966879
Her face might be horrific most of the time but I actually really liked her. She was actually kind of dynamic and her motivations were believable.

Or maybe I just think that because I tend to compare her with Jacob who was fucking terrible.
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>>343945807
>romanced Ashley
>rest of the games heavily focus on making Liara the canon choice
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>>343945807
I'd have killed all the characters if I could have. They were typical 2 dimensional, boring Bioware characters. Even the story bits that were supposed to give the characters depth actually did nothing of the sort.
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Best love interest was Traynor.

She should have fucked EDI if you didn't make Joker and EDI happen.
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>>343963979
"I'd trade every weapon I own for one more mission with that shitty old rifle"

It's such a simple line but it's strangely emotional.
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>unironically liking Miranda
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>>343967503
Should have been Shep (male or female) Traynor and EDI.
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>>343967681
>he gets it fixed by ME3
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>>343967113
>that dialogue with Miranda where she talks about how worried she is about her sister while the camera is right in front of her ass

At least in ME1 everyone wore actual practical armor. ME2 is when they went full retard.
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>>343968080
>taking Jack on a space mission
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>>343949927
She was only gay for pay, she isn't attracted to women
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>>343968080
I bet the guys at EA cringe when they see her character now.
they were going through the transition of going complete SJW during DA2 and ME3 development, I doubt they'd never make a character like Miranda now.
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>>343945807

solarians literally did nothing wrong
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>>343947516
Same. I still love the way KOTOR looks, though. My friends thought it looks like shit, I don't get their reasoning. I've always thought it looked good.
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>>343963979

zaeed was based as fuck

also, liara is by far the best romance
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Will you apologize if it turns out to be good?
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>>343968618
Absolutely not, and i definitely wont until they either put their DLC on sale or finally release a fucking edition with all of it included.
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>>343968397
>those little breathing masks that cover the mouth and the nose

They might as well have just let them run around barefaced in space for all the good those would have done.
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>>343968618
>ME:A turning out decent retroactively makes criticism of ME3 invalid

How?
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>>343960009
>The brutish warlike race is compared to African Americans

Aren't you such a creative little boy?
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Witcher 3 ending was right in all the ways ME went wrong. It was a good feel.
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>>343963606
Explain this Garrus biting meme
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>>343968829
dude Mass Effect fields lmao
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>>343955767
>Complaining about rape in ME3.
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>>343969079

>all black people are american
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>>343969219
if you femshep romance garrus in 2 when you meet Jack in 3 she mentions Garrus biting you
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>He played Mass Effect past the first game
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Anyone with a brain killed Wrex. He was an ugly symbol of the patriarchy.
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>>343969331
Most of persecuted ones are. The shit you people say about them is thankfully illegal in my country.
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>>343969097

It was literally just as bad
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>>343969242
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>There are people in this thread who actually who picked the over-acted sappy Jennifer Hale shit over based Mark Meer

Explain yourselves.
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>>343969662

interesting. perhaps there is some correlation between the way someone acts and the way others act towards them.

hmm.
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>>343970549
Mark Meer's voice literally puts me to sleep.
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>>343970549

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3YCDGSs9rU

this shit is hilarious man. meer always felt so weird and plastic.

honestly though shepard and bastilla are the only characters of hers i can stand to listen to. every other voice she does is just fucking weird.
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>>343970549
The only moment where Meer is superior is the delivery of the big stupid jellyfish line.
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>>343970549
>>343970718
>>343970848
Hale was a better Paragon.
Meer was a better renegade.
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>>343970848
Renegade maleshep is just so wonderfully sardonic in a way femshep cannot hope to achieve.

Her voice just sounds too put-on to take seriously. She sounds more like a slutty cop than a commanding officer.

I will agree that her paragon deliveries are far better, but that's only for moralfags.
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>>343971597
Guess i messed up doing my playthroughs, i started off Paragon male shep and am currently doing Renegade femshep.
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>>343972196
His monotone cadence is much more acceptable in renegade playthroughs because it makes sense for him to come off as being relentlessly obtuse and dismissive in regular conversation.
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What was Mordin's excuse for not going full genocide when he had the chance? Seems like there wasn't a single damn Krogan in the series who contributed anything to the galaxy aside from merc work. All of their scientists only gave a shit about Krogan issues and it's implied that post-genophage Krogan had no real artistic culture to speak of.
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>>343972895
Salarian guilt.
the Salarians destroyed any chance the Korgans had and elevated them before they were ready as a species.
He wants them grow on their own, curing the Genophage was a chance for them to start anew.
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>>343945807
>install Leviathan
>side with Salarians
>use the fast travel terminal to get back to the Normandy
>never pass through the docking bay again
>never run into angry Wrex
>keep both Salarian and Krogan fleets
>???????
>EMS!
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>>343973179
I never liked his 180 on the genophage. It happens off screen when he's with the Krogan females and we're never given a rebuttal to his reasoning in ME2.

In a conversation during his loyalty mission, he chastises Shepard for suggesting that the genophage cure could be used as a bargaining chip to end hostilities. He points out the obvious projection of human concepts of gratitude onto a species like the Krogan whose culture would have them use the opportunity as a means of revenge, not celebration and reconciliation. Shame it's never addressed in ME3, aside from a throwaway line suggesting that female krogans would maintain peace as if they were some homogeneous group of pacifist who for some reason didn't intervene in krogan warmongering until just now.
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>>343974316
>who for some reason didn't intervene in krogan warmongering until just now
It would have been too hard for Bioware to consider making multiple female aliens with unique personalities for any race aside from the token blue titty monsters.
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>>343957703
Garrus
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>tfw started replaying me trilogy and decided to actually try romance someone liara but didn't talk to her after her homeworld was attacked so relationship is doomed
nice
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>>343976454
>not talking to all of your squadmates after each priority mission at the very least
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>>343976705
I did, but this time I forgot to talk to her before doing some shitty fetch quest
Oh well
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>>343962204
bro-hug
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The only characters I liked were all of the Krogans and Legion.

I hated everyone else. So needy. So bitchy. Apparently in the future commanding officers need to solve every individual problem of every bitchy person.

You have to search, beg and do missions for everyone else to follow you. Legion just shows up and volunteers to help because there is an actual threat out there.
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>>343970447
So does this one anti-witcherfag spend literally all of his time shitposting whenever Witcher gets brought up? What a life he leads.
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>>343950329
you can kill her entire race and force her to commit suicide in me3 though
I would have done it too if I wasn't a completionist
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>>343945807
And? Braindead tough guy was of no use to the team. Especially when he thought he could unite the warring, psychotic clans of his race and keep them from acting the way they literally always have with reasons. Off him and keep Mordin around? Don't even need to think about it.
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>>343949879
Unless its a biotic voiced by Carth.
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>>343962204
Go hunting (for big game or criminals) with.

>>343964706
>implying Talimacers are tumblr
A different brand of degeneracy. More like deviantart.
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The Suicide Mission was a mistake
It was a neat concept but with the possibility of any of the characters dying led to them having little more than cameo rolls in ME3 rather than full squad members
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>mfw I find out someone had to kill Wrex their first time playing.

Literally how? It is so easy to avoid I didn't even know it was fucking possible the first time I did it.
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>>343955589
>Seriously why the fuck was she straight in ME 2 she says she has been with guys and girls, but lol no just guys in ME 2
Playing it safe after the "sex scandal" thing
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>>343945807
>killing my husbando
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>>343946639
Protecting the bomb made the most sense.
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>>343984529
Not really, when there was a line of dialogue stating that once activated there's no way to shut it off anyway.
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>The best and most interesting side-plot that could have affected the game for the better in the Element Zero side effect destroying the suns instead gets disregarded entirely
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>>343959763
underrated post
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>>343947253
TALI IS A BEANER
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>Couldn't romance best girl
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>>343984971
Within the context of the characters immediate experiences and the setting, for all anyone knew the Geth would still have a way to stop it that the Council races are not aware of, since little was known about The Geth at the time. The Geth could otherwise remove the bomb from the base somehow.

The goal is to destroy the base and it's research data, destroying the Geth around the bomb would make sure it would not potentially be tampered with in any way.
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>>343985898
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>>343986365
That relies on a lot of assumption when it just flat out says in game that once the countdown starts nothing can stop it. All it would need to do is be fastened to wherever it was.
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>>343986365
This pic would be great if they weren't all edgefags.
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>>343986365
>Scotty
>that fucking beret
>Lord Titan the volus
Holy fuck my sides
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>>343986719
I think the same, but i will fuck Pandora until the end of time.
KATANA
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>>343986991
>not Seraphine
SHIT
TASTE
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>>343986702
I'm talking about within the context of the characters in-universe experiences. The council races knew next to nothing about the Geth. They could have tried anything. Point is, it's absolutely imperative that the bomb not be tampered with. The base must be destroyed.

I choose that route every time because I think it'd be the most logical conclusion within the context of the situation.
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>>343986991
>not going for the female turian

Asari are practically vanilla.
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>>343987169
Asari are blue vanilla.
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>>343986719
Here's a better one.
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>>343987143
Apparently they knew enough for the Salarian leader of the operations to say that nothing would be able to stop it.

It's a mission priority sure but it seems pretty reckless to let people die when all it takes is a secure fastening for it.
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>>343987085
>KATANA
>>343987169
>KATANA
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>>343987298
>you will never run Blasto and Legion in the same party
Why live>
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>>343987298
Who's that guy second from the left?
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>>343987387
>liking katanas
WEEABOO FAGGOT I HOPE YOU ROT IN HELL YOU ARE SHIT YOU HAVE SHIT TASTE YOU ARE NO GOOD DIE WEEABOO.

>>343987459
One of the Doctors from Doctor Who.
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>>343987459
some medic
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>>343987387
And Belladonna has 2. What of it?
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>>343987459
Doctor Who.
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>>343987553
I meant stage left.
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>Always roll silver tongued high CHA characters when I can.
>Never seen Wrex die in any of my playthroughs.

Diplomacy too good, eat it combatfags.
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>>343987658
Ok so he's a docter but what is his name?
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>>343987820
>Always roll silver tongued high CHA characters when I can.

Is it possible to not have that in Mass Effect?
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>>343987881
Literally Who
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>>343987967
Then why did they shop some no name docter into the fucking pic?
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>>343987967
>>343987881
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>>343988086
No no, he's Doctor Who, that's his character.

>>343988134
Why aren't you amused?
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>>343966702
The gameplay was alright, though I'm a weirdo who preferred the first game's and wish the series went into a direction of refining that rather than throwing it out. The story in ME3 had a fair few missteps, to be fair, though. Remember Edgy McNinja? Of course you do, you can't forget him, he was a joke who was shoved in your face way too much.
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>>343987548
>Belladona no katana.
>PANDORA KATANA, BEST EDGFE, BESTA WEBBEO.
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>>343987931
>>343987820
Not really, all you need to do is stick to a morality path and you unlock all the options you need to resolve shit. Though Paragon probably has more peaceful solutions on the whole.
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>>343988134
Would it have been better had I started asking about that thicc ass bird?
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>he played this mediocre franchise
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>>343988302
NO GET OUT. SERAPHINE BEST WAIFU. SHE HAS A QT FACE AND ISN'T NORMIE BAIT. SHE HAS NATURAL :3 WHICH IS THE BEST. YOU CANNOT PROVE ME WRONG. IF YOU LIKE KATANA SO MUCH THEN FUCK ONE OF THOE INSTEAD OF BLUEBERRY SCUM.
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>>343988459
>KATANA
>ANATAK
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>>343988802
Some cheap Katana that was made with shitty metal and without the lost techniques doesn't have the qualities of ancient katanas? What a surprise >.>
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>>343991746
This could not possibly be more obvious bait.
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>>343992135
He's actually right though. You could not possibly be more triggered.
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>>343946417
If you don't recruit Garrus you can save Wrex every time by glitching past the encounter with him on Virmire.
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>>343992135
Look up the Japanese sword-smith Muramasa Sengo retardo.
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>>343947150
Well I couldn't lesbian Tali
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>>343957425
Very late, but Kaiden was originally intended to be bisexual in ME1 as well but it got cut for whatever reason.
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>>343985898
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>>343991746
>>343993610
>>343993853
Where did this 'the katana is the greatest sword ever made' thing come from? It's a sword made for killing armoured or barely armoured opponents because the Japanese couldn't into armour at all that would get shat on by a knight with a broadsword, so what gives?
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