is emulation piracy?
>>343945473
Of course not! The money goes to the company!
POORLY
Yes, definitely.
You'd be hard-pressed to find someone who gives a shit that you're pirating games that haven't been sold in stores for decades, though.
>>343945708
LOADED
>>343945473
no
it serves a valuable purpose
it helps preserve the technology for years to come
>>343945473
Yes. So?
>>343945473
Not in any meaningful sense.
The platforms and developers are long gone.
You'd just be supporting collectors or faceless execs.
Should be classified as
>>343945473
Not in and of itself
Yes, it is. But the only people who really care are Nintendo, Namco, and Atari. They release all those compilations of old games so the copy right doesnt run out
sure and who cares
yes but who cares
>>343945473
If you're using it to play games from current systems, probably.
If you're using it to play things from like 2005 and below probably not because chances are the thing the person is emulating is either difficult to find and/or expensive.
>>343945473
Technically no, but only if you buy the physical game, dump it yourself and emulate your own copy
Downloading ROMs/ISOs could probably get you in trouble for piracy if anyone even bothered to go after you
>>343945473
The act of emulation itself is not piracy.
Downloading ROMS to run in emulators, on the other hand, is a clear-cut copywrite violation, and is absolutely piracy.
>>343945473
its for archive purposes as well,
where else can you legitimately buy a modern version to play Zero the Kamikaze Squirrel?
The studio doesn't exist anymore, so they wouldn't get a dime anyway.
The technology isn't readily available for the consumer nor are both cartridges
But through emulation, we can preserve and share these games that would otherwise be lost in time...
>>343945473
No but I'd wager most people who emulate pirate the game they are emulating
>>343945473
If it really bothers you, go to a flea market and get a physical copy. Once you've paid for the game, ROMs are completely legal.
If you don't own a copy of the game, yes.
>>343945473
>WoW
>iTunes
>AVG
legally yes, but there's a lot of old games you can't buy new or digitally anymore, so there's no way of getting money to the developers/publishers and if you already own the games who gives a flying fuck
>>343946092
Piracy in a broad sense is reproducing copyrighted content without the copyright holder's permission. It doesn't really matter if the thing you're reproducing without their consent is still in production or not.
Your point is valid regarding the morality of it, but it's still piracy.
Personally I think piracy is great. Everyone should do it, to the point where it becomes so commonplace it's forced to be made legal.
What's the best place to get Wii ISO's and Wii WADs?
>>343945473
Emulation is one of the most important things in all of gaming
Its the only way to truly preserve games for centuries to come
>>343946509
>he didn't check the date
>>343946710
it's still b8
>>343946276
This.
>>343946509
The date on the bottom right says 2009 too.
He probably just googled N64 emulation or something.
No, piracy is piracy. Emulation can be used to play pirated games, but emulation itself is not piracy.
>>343945473
Explicitly?
Emulation is in no way shape or form piracy.
Implicitly?
Of fucking course it is, what else are people using these emulators for?
>>343945901
Nintendo is the one who care the most, they removed all their roms from Coolrom. They want to milk Super Mario 64 for the eternity.
>>343945473
Unless you happen to have a 200 dollar Mega Man X3 cartridge, you'd better emulate it. Seriously, look up Mega Man 7, X2, and X3 on ebay.
The better question is, is it piracy once the console stops selling
>>343945473
No, the actual act of emulating a game itself isn't piracy, but the downloading and distribution of a game you did not legally purchase or acquire, or have the rights to is the piracy.
Depending on the country, dumping the game you own to another format may be considered either copying, or making a backup which you are entitled to. The later scenario absolutely differs if you share the backup with other people.
>>343945473
No.
No it isn't.
>>343947045
Some people actually do use emulators for games they have legally dumped, because they can be used to play patched versions of games with all kinds of changes or enhancements not possible on real consoles.
I mean, fuck, I actually bought Mario Kart Wii, dumped the game using my Wii, then played the entire thing on Dolphin instead.
>>343947447
True, but those people are in the extreme minority.
Just because you buy a bowl from a headshop and use it to smoke tobacco doesnt mean everyone else isnt using it to smoke weed.
No, emulators aren't piracy. That's not an opinion; see Sony v. Connectix and Sony v. Bleem! The programs used to play console games on a computer are not considered a violation of any rights.
>>343947813
It is quite obvious that OP is talking about the practice of dumping copyrighted games and playing them on emulators.
Emulation != Piracy
Downloading ROMs is, even if you own the game.
Making dumps isn't piracy if you don't distribute the dump, but the act itself can violate some copyright laws if they could be enforced.
>>343947213
If it still has a copyright, yes
>>343945473
>That resolution
>That "speed meter"
>That icon size
>Foxit Reader
>Having QuickTime desktop shortcut
>Recycle bin has stuff in it
>malwarbtye, kek
0/10
>>343948807
It's a screenshot from 2009 you dumbass.
>>343948232
God I hate copyright
So to play Donkey Kong 64 you need to buy a 300$ cartridge and a 200$ N64 off Ebay, despite already having a sale on the game
Either that or Virtual Console
>>343948942
SUUUUUUUREEEEEE
>>343945473
not necessarily, but it enables piracy by making it easier and available on devices it wasn't published for
I like to collect games so while I buy the physical copies I play some of them on my PC
>>343945473
Emulation is emulation. It's often on the same moral "level" as piracy, but it's emulation.
>>343945473
Most of the games emulated are no longer being sold. If the market isn't supplying the demand then I don't see it as piracy.
>>343947069
>make a product
>don't want people illegally distributing your product
>somehow you're the bad guy
justify piracy all you want but under literally no circumstance can you claim any moral highground
>>343945473
>How to run
Any legal cases referring to this?
Do N64 emulators still suck?
>>343945473
Yes, if you don't own a legal copy of the game. If there's an official re-release of an old game you should support the developer and buy it unless you actually have your original cartridge. If the game can't be bought legally in any way, meaning it's impossible to support the developer, then it'd be less of a problem to pirate.
It is piracy but nobody really cares especially when most games aren't obtainable without spending stupid amount of money on Ebay.
>>343945473
Not everyone has that ~300$ or potentially way more to buy some rare games on the NES like Mr. Gimmick, where the gimmick is that it costs alot.
>>343945473
The only emulators I would consider illegal are Cemu, Citra and maybe Dolphin. (some games are still being made for Wii believe it or not)
>mfw this thread
>>343950075
emulators themselves are perfectly legal
its the act of downloading roms that is illegal
>>343945473
a purchase is a purchase, you can't say it's only a half
>>343949737
You forgot,
>Product makes you no money, because you don't produce the product anymore.
>The only people selling the product charge 100$+ per cartridge because you don't produce it anymore.
>You still childishly take the roms down from websites so people can't access them.
The is always a circumstance in which you can claim the moral high ground. Morals are pretty flexible that way.
>>343950184
Either way, Wii U games are still on the market. Therefore unless a Cemu user rips the files from a game they bought themselves, Cemu is still considered illegal as all current games are still on the market.
>>343947109
>not getting both for <$20
>>343948942
None of that would have been excusable in 2009.
>>343946479
you have to be emulating YOUR copy that you personally ripped for it to be "legal"
>>343947069
There's a million sites besides Coolrom though
>>343950062
>>343950395
If your purchase no longer supports the developers of the game I'd say it's okay to download a ROM of it.
>>343950395
in nintendo's case they are in fact selling their product themselves and not through third parties
sure it is in the form of digital versions instead of the original cartridges but this is more than sufficient justification to get rid of roms
in nintendo's case you cannot claim the moral highground
>>343950395
With Nintendo it's more of a... I dunno, "protective parent" angle than a monetary one when it comes to protecting their icons.
>>343950464
>implying I don't have this and the original cartridges.
>>343945473
>is emulation piracy
>reverse engineering patented hardware in order to give it out for free to the masses
i wonder
>>343950956
Reverse engineering hardware that is no longer made and will eventually break.
>>343950636
How can emuparadise stay alive and well while coolrom got blown up?
if you own the game - no
if you don't - yes
its that simple
>>343945473
No, emulation is not piracy, and as long as you keep toting this bullshit you hold gaming back from making games as easily available as movies and books are nowadays.
Downloading game roms is piracy. Emulators, emulation, and playing such games on emulators is not piracy. Furthermore, it is possible to rip your own games and/or simply play your own games off disc via emulation, thus removing any and all illegal acts from the equation.
I encourage you to watch this video by Digital Eclipse, the team that made the Mega Man Legacy Collection, on the subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLWY7fCXUwE
You might also consider reading this little bit on Wikipedia or looking up the fight between Sony and Bleem in the 90s, where Sony lost a lawsuit against Bleem Company for their commercially available PS1 emulator.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleem!#Sony_lawsuit
In short, emulators have been deemed legal since the 90s.
>>343945901
>>343946164
>>343946510
>>343950035
You're all wrong
>>343951070
emuparadise are the feds
>>343945473
Not if you own the game
If it isn't sold by the company in question anymore it's okay in my opinion.
>>343949886
Sony vs Bleem
Bleem won and was allowed to sell its commercially sold emulator. It also went bankrupt due to the court case.
>>343950756
They don't need to protect it, its theirs, nobody is saying otherwise. Someone playing super mario is not "degrading the protection of their icon".
>>343950723
That's a pretty big distinction, especially when you have to buy whatever current gen console they are hocking it on to get that 10 year old game they are selling in digital format.
Also, morals are relative by definition, stop arguing. Use a factual law based narrative if you want to support the hardline view.
>Have massive ps2 and wii library.
>Dont own either console.
>Dolphin and PCSx2 are just that much more superior
>>343952085
>PCSX2
>good
There are no good PS2 emulators.
>>343946509
what's wrong with iTunes
>>343947447
>games they have legally dumped
That's actually a misconception.
Dumping itself is illegal. It constitutes copywrite violation.
When they say you can do whatever you want so long as you buy the game?
They're referring to the actual, physical copy of that game. If you make any modifications or no longer use that physical copy of the game, like if you make backups or mod your console, it's no longer technically the same and all bets are off.
>>343952337
>le PS2 emulation is bad meme
Someone has a shit PC.
>>343952936
t. Nintendo
>>343952936
Making a backup is legal under the DMCA. So is downloading a backup in most places. You retards should really read the law before you spout nonsense.
>>343952085
Tell me about some games that have 0 problems and run easy on emulator? Just wondering if I want to bother trying it.
Not if you play your legit games on it (meaning dumps of your cartridges/CDs/DVDs).
>>343952936
>Dumping itself is illegal.
Not in ameriland. And pretty sure it's been legal in bongville for a few years now.
>>343952337
living 10 years in the past. Whatever shortcomming these emulators have compared to 'actual' hardware are superseded entirely by being able to run them in 1080 with AA and AF.
>>343953536
I think i have an easier time telling you what games dont run. Everything runs nice and smooth if you got a computer up to snuff
>>343953536
This list comes with the MASSIVE caveat that Dolphin, by its nature, still has moderately high system requirements, and, like almost all emulators, all games will work and look differently on different systems.
That said, there is a Dolphin Wiki where common problems to basically all games are catalogued and workarounds are available.
But, as of right now, basically the entirety of the Gamecube library is perfect, or as close as possible.
Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Paper Mario TTYD and F-Zero GX are all great plug-and-play games and Mario Sunshine and Pikmin work great with some very minor tweaking
>>343953878
I think most game run well if you keep the default plugin settings, but they can get complicated if you mess around with resolution/filters etc
>>343950464
but then i have to play it with a dualshock dpad
>1024x768
>>343954551
Look at the date.
>>343955351
The date is 1024x768
Your typical pirate:
>These games no long have any value, so why not pirate them?
>What to you mean the hours of fun I had playing the game is worth money? The game is old! Old games aren't worth money!
>>343954102
>but they can get complicated if you mess around with resolution/filters etc
that doesn't even make sense.
>>343953967
4 year old mid range PC isn't moderately high requirements.
No but downloading roms and isos is
>>343955737
>"I try before I buy."
>"This game was only a 7/10 though, I'll wait for it to go on sale."
>Game never goes on sale. Devs see 0 dollars
>Or game goes on sale. Dev still sees 0 dollars.
>>343955784
4chan's idea of system requirements is massively skewed, though. A "4 year old mid-range PC" on 4chan is still a 4ghz Sandy Bridge i7 with a GTX 770.
I've got a i5 4590 at 3.3ghz with a 970 and my PC got called a toaster by someone in /g/. I'm just sayin, know what you're getting into.
>>343955784
>doesn't make sense
Okay well I play SH2 on PCSX2. If I keep the default settings everything runs fine, but if I tweak it a bit so I can get a somewhat HD experience, The cutscenes don't show video and there's soundlag every now and then.
>>343951270
this
>>343956163
That's a 3 year old high-end build.
>>343956202
Are you on the latest version? I haven't had an issue like that in years.
But it sounds like you should just enable the software mode FMV hack and upgrade your PC because it can't run the game at full speed in hardware mode.
>>343945473
Emulation is fucking garbage. If I don't have the original console it's better to not play the game at all.
>>343956646
PCSX2 1.2.1 (r5875)
>>343953023
Why do people automatically assume that when someone calls an emulator shit its because they have trouble running games? Running games isn't the problem with PCSX2. Its just a shit emulator incapable of running games properly.
>>343953878
Tell me how to run Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII in 1080p with AA. Tell me how to play the PS2 version of 007 Nightfire in 1080p with AA. Tell me how to run Final Fantasy XII without ghosting during cutscenes (or whatever it is you call seeinga see-through version of a character right next to it). Tell me how to play Okage: Shadow King without everything looking blurry. Go on: I dare you.
Piracy isn't actually the action being committed, the potential problem would be copyright infringement - so your question should really be, is emulation copyright infringement?
You could even add follow up questions: Is this bad? And why?
>>343945473
Yes, but I don't give a fuck.
>>343956785
I bet your can't expand on your post further. Emulation is better than consoles in every single aspect.
Mods, higher resolution, play on many devices, original cartridge/disc doesn't risk getting damaged etc.
Is the game your emulating available digitally on a console today?
If yes then its piracy.
If no then its not piracy.
>>343956990
>is emulation copyright infringement
No
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleem!#Sony_lawsuit
>>343945473
Legally? Yes
But to be honest, emulation just serves the purpose of making old games (which are most likely impossible to find unless you wanna spend big money on used copies) playable for everyone and preserving the technology for years to come
There's also the fact that developers don't care about emulation because they wouldn't get any money anyway and punishing it would serve the only purpose of showing what an enormous dick you are to people who love your past games
>>343956798
>PCSX2 1.2.1 (r5875)
These, ladies and gentlemen, are the retards who say pcsx2 sucks.
>>343956831
FFXII only ghosts when you set your resolution too high and you can disable the blur with skipdraw and it's not even that bad.
You named 3 games that do work but not perfectly out of thousands of games that do work perfectly. You should work in an orchard.
>>343957271
I didn't say it sucked. Jesus you guys. I take it there a newer versions then. Thanks.
>>343956831
>GTX 970
>1080p at 60hz
nigger.. you're fucking retarded
>>343957414
I know, I was just making a joke, chill! You're effectively using a build that's like 4 years old.
>>343956785
Nice shitpost.
>>343957271
You can't even get past the main menus of the Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets or Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban on PCSX2. Are you really sure the thousands of games you think work perfectly actually do? The most pleasant experience I've had thus far on PCSX2 is with .hack//Infection and .hack//Fragment, which I've had zero issues with. I guess calling PCSX2 terrible is an exaggeration but its nowhere near the quality of several SNES and GBA emulators, PPSSPP, and Dolphin, which is what I really want it to be.
>>343957479
How so?
>>343958123
>60hz
>ever
>>343958123
>he's still cherry picking
>>343951939
>>343958753
Playable does not mean perfectly anon. And I'm just stating games I've personally attempted to play.
>>343959285
The vast majority of playable emulate perfectly.
>>343957658
Holy shit man. Just got the new version, all my Silent Hill 3 problems went away
Thanks, wish I knew this earlier
>>343959437
New versions of most emulators come out several times a day.
>>343949856
He was looking up "How to run from the cops after Illegally downloading Nintendo® intellectual property" probably like everyone that blatantly violates Federal and International copyright law by emulating videogames. They're criminals and know what they're doing is wrong.
I suggest everyone report this thread and all other Emulation or "Homebrew/Jailbreaking" threads as they advocate violating United States Federal law.
>>343959523
Seriously? what's the point
>>343954112
I don't see the problem here.
>>343959663
See >>343953379. Jailbreaking a device to use it for legal purposes is allowed as well. Read up on DMCA laws before talking out your ass.
Emulation?
No.
Downloading ROMs to play them on an emulator?
Yes.
Ripping your ROMs from actual carts to play them on an emulator?
Depends on your local laws.
Fun fact. Many companies use open source emulators to port their older games to other systems.
Hell, 90% of GOG uses DosBOX, an emulator itself, for their games.
>>343960210
Even Nintendo's official virtual console games are a form of emulation.
>>343945667
Also, they make sequels based on the number of downloads a certain ROM gets, not the sales numbers.
>>343960423
Yes, a superior form of emulation with 100% stable and optimized performance. Even manual scans.
There's a reason for paying $3-8 each.
>>343959676
They get updated several times a day. If you're using a 'stable' build you're using something months-to-years old.
All those Dolphin 5.0 threads for example, all of those new features are months old and Ishiiruka, the alternate Dolphin, has more and features for most games and in general is easier to run.
I already own the original copies :^)
>>343960396
I still haven't seen a bigger piece of corporate propaganda in my life.
I also love how they dance around the fact that emulation itself is technically legal by never outright saying it's illegal.
>>343960549
If there's a game on virtual console I like I'll buy it because I know my purchase supports Nintendo. If I can't do that because it's not available I'll have no choice but to download the ROM. It's that simple.
Available for purchase to support the developers? Buy. Otherwise pirate.
the act of EMULATION is not piracy.
DOWNLOADING ROMS is piracy.
Is there a way to play MonHun games online with emulation or something ?
>>343959663
Anon please see >>343951340
>>343945473
property rights would say yes, but there is no profit being made on those games by the devs, soooooooo.....
I personally would argue that, given their age and decades of no sale/profit, it isnt anymore.
The only games that still qualify, i personally believe legally, are those being sold currently as digital games. Like nintendo and sony are doing on their shops for psx/ps2/psp classics or nes/snes/gba/n64/ds/wii eshop exclusives.
>>343951672
honeypot?
>>343960942
also to add...
there are retro games out there with developer logos that arent even around anymore. Some old pc games are public domain now.
Can people actually get arrested for downloading a couple of PS2 Isos?
>>343961221
You can't get arrested for pirating anything.
>>343961221
Technically yes, but nobody would be crazy enough to go after those who do when there are pirates sharing illegal copies of new releases. If the game's no longer made the developers no longer expect to make a profit off of them, assuming they still exist.
>>343961221
Theoretically yes.
Practically? Not unless someone really has it out for you.
>>343961221
No, copyright infringement is a civil issue, not criminal. For the most part anyway.
>>343960810
Some games have no option but piracy. Extremely limited prints, games from companies that are no more, promotional versions, banned games in some countries.
I agree it's not the right way (according to the copyright law you should look for a copy), but in some cases it's the only way.
Also, I like a perfect performance when playing a game I like, as close as possible to original experience. Playing on a unofficial emulator with some sound glitches and graphical slowdowns isn't my thing. I'd definitely "pay for a ROM" in e-shop for optimal experience.
>>343945473
Emulators are legal, emulating a game that you yourself own is perfectly legal, just like how you can play a dvd or mp3 you own on whatever the fuck you want.
This is why consoles suck, they force you to use one system owned by one company and once they stop supporting it youre fucked, or are force to buy the new one. Where as with a pc you can emulate all that obsolete hardware.
Do they still make money off these games?
>>343945473
The company who made them would never see a cent from wherever you bought it from so no.
>>343961673
>according to the copyright law you should look for a copy
If the only copy is a second-hand copy some scalper on eBay is selling for an exorbitant price that benefits the developers in absolutely no way there's nothing wrong with pirating it. This legal gray area is what many people are unsure about.
>>343946578
You're very very stupid if you think that will ever happen. And if it did happen the entertainment industry would conoletely collapse.
>>343962080
Technically yes, but even so, when talking about games that are currently available (DS emulation for example) that's still debatable.
I really enjoy emulating deceased hardware, specially those you weren't even born when they retired (NES, GB, Atari 2600). It's pretty damn hard to find a TV set today to properly run an old 1980s gaming machine.
>>343952337
why do people say this? It runs everything perfectly and you can even adjust the 23047604972 different settings to make it so it's like AA was a thing.
>>343962532
Some DS games are resold on the eShop. Downloading a ROM for that would be bad practice. More obscure games that will never be sold again? Piracy's the only way.
Emulation of deceased hardware is wonderful, and if anything it does future generations a favor by preserving important parts of technological history.
>>343952936
the fucking manual that comes with every 64 game had a section on making a legal backup.
>>343961684
>Emulators are legal, emulating a game that you yourself own is perfectly legal,
Cucks in denial believe this
>>343953967
>moderately high system reqs
>Everything runs on a lower-tier I5 and a 600ish nvidia
w-what do you think is "high tier" now anon? A 780?
>>343961221
Copyright Infringement is a civil dispute. In the USA, you can be sued by the legal copyright holders for hundreds to over one hundred thousand dollars in "damage" that you have inflicted to their profits. You won't see jail time.
Given the usual ways you may pirate games (torrents, direct downloads), the ability to track such a thing is very difficult and there's a one in a billion chance that a corporation will try and prosecute you because they won't have any real evidence.
It's virtually impossible for them to have anything on you except an IP address if you went and torrented something and their tracker tagged you. They'll send your ISP a naaaaasty message, but that's the worst they will (can) do.
Unless you're some big time seeder with a shitload of counts of infringement and they can almost guarantee confiscating hard drives with incriminating evidence from you with in a subpoena, they won't even try. They probably expect you're just some penniless kid downloading one game. They'll send out the nasty email to your ISP and your ISP will relay it to you (some ISPs have a strike system that will cut you off if you get too many, but most don't give a fuck as long as you pay) and that will be it.
>>343945473
I don't think so as long as you emulate games you physically own
>>343963234
It's mostly for the retards who will be all like "My laptop from 2004 with a Core 2 Duo and 2 gigs of RAM can't run this, SHIT EMULATOR"
>>343956163
>I don't understand that new and better technology is released nearly every year. My ignorance should be rewarded, not pointed out by those who know more than me!
That's a great high end build. like 2-3 years ago. If it makes you feel better, only richfags or idiots buy the best new thing right away because the prices drop so fast with new shit coming out all the time. See: everyone who was retarded enough to buy a Titan.
>>343960027
The laws for this is really iffy. While making backups is legal, breaking copy protection is illegal and there are times you need to break copy protection before you can backup the software. This is more of an issue for modern software than older ones though.
>>343963309
There is criminal copy right infringement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Copyright_Law_in_the_United_States
As DAs are usually trying murders and rapist, companies generally go the civil route.
>>343946285
>but only if you buy the physical game
Why does this matter? It's not like Companies are making profit from you buying the game off the internet.
>>343945473
>Games that have defunct consoles and can no longer be bought
>Piracy
>>343946509
>iTunes
It's literally the only way to manage your iphone, pussytits.
>>343964223
Iphone is to consoles what Android is to PC.
>>343949043
or about 10 USD on WiiU.
WiiU is about 172-400 USD depending on model.
>>343964305
That's an idiotic analogy and I wonder why you bothered.
>>343947069
anyone stop using coolrom, because the link never works even if you watch the advertisement?
>>343945473
If you dump your own roms from your own cartridges, then no.
Which means it's almost always piracy.
>>343945473
Only if you can purchase the game for a modern system.
Not like it matters though.
>>343963207
In the united states, there have been many cases on the issue of emulation, the defense has always won. Also making copies of your software is also legal.
There have been many cases in court on this matter its fucking legal as long as you own the physical software hell in some instances that might not even be the case. Unless you have actual solid arguments againts it other than your trolling then go fuck yourself and learn about your rights.
>>343945473
Yes and no. It's a very gray area, depending on what's being used. For example, Virtual Console is technically emulation, but because of it being sold by the parent company, it's perfectly legal. Now, downloading ROMs, on the other hand, is technically illegal. ROM hacks are a different story altogether.
>>343964401
There's nothing wrong with that. iPhones are a locked down walled garden just like consoles. To extend the analogy you can "jailbreak" both to enjoy the same freedom Android (compared to iPhone) or PC (compared to consoles) come with by default, namely the ability to install software not offered through official channels.
>>343945473
>hurr it's not illegal as long as you don't have roms
Yes. They are illegal
>>343964401
Iphone
>Tons of impossible to uninstall bloatware comes on the phone
>premium prices only, with incremental improvements per edition
>literally said yourself 1st party programs only
Android
>You can even uninstall the storefront if you fucking wanted to. Novel idea of letting you decide what programs you want on your device.
>Prices range what you're willing to pay, from cheap as balls to premium.
>NOT bound to one program to manage your media. In fact you can manually move files around on your phone using just the OS or the OS of your computer. Fucking drag the music file from your media player on your computer and place it in the "ringtones" folder on the phone, it is now a ringtone.
>>343965569
>play homebrew games
What now, retard?
>>343945473
ITT: Anons debate over something that doesn't matter at all because nobody will ever get in trouble for it regardless.
It is piracy. Even though many of the old school devs are long gone, it doesn't deter the fact that you are still "stealing" their copyrighted content.
>mfw a pcuck says they don't pirate games
>ALWAYS. FUCKING ALWAYS uses emulation as a selling point to being a PCuck
ITT: Ignorance.
No, emulation is not piracy, as ruled by multiple court cases.
The real knowlege on emulation from the GDC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLWY7fCXUwE&ab_channel=GDC
>>343947045
it is when you need to emulate the nand. The nand is protected by the DMCA. pretty much any console passed fifth gen needs a nand.
>>343967515
It's a form of piracy that realistically won't get you in trouble. Still piracy though, so it comes down to personal beliefs and morals.
>>343945473
Emulation itself is not piracy
Downloading the roms is piracy
Fuck people who down piracy, well, spend ALL your fuckin money on $2000 worth of MAYBE 10 nes games, while I have EVERY nes game on my cpu for free, shit like " snow bros (nes)", " super adventure island 2", ect.
I'm sorry, but I've been doing this shit since I was 12.....in year 2000......it's how I played chrono trigger, final fantasy 6, ect, and I WOULD NOT GIVE UP IR CHABGE THAT FOR THE WORLD. The internet was SOOOOOOOOOO YOUNG back then it DID NOT MATTER, I was a little kid who hated LAME pc games, not good ones, and wanted to try super Mario world on my family computer, chock full of bonsai buddy, msn messenger, ALL the morning shit, my mom telling me " ur games are freezing the computer, delete them". I just made my own folders an hid em because people are fucking STUPID. DONE.
>>343969083
Yes, I'm 27 now fuck you. Yes you, who said somethin, my black fist will smash your face ANS your mom's dick.
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>>343963309
Don't they make you pay exorbitant amounts of money if you're caught?
Like, "way, WAY more than the thing was even fucking worth"?
>>343969651
If you upload illegal content, yes. They generally don't go after the downloaders unless you torrent. I seriously hope nobody torrents ROMs that can be found on sites like emuparadise.
>>343969651
make you pay how? They can't just send you a bill. Why would they spend thousands in court fees when there's the off-chance you win with a "muh IP was hax'd" defense?
>>343969651
No, at most they'll threaten you and say if you don't pay $5-15k they'll sue for exorbitant amounts. No one ever follows up though.
>>343962990
Thank you! Just because people don't understand the program and how to adjust it, even for certain games means shit. Oh well, enjoy yalls "FFX " FAIL-Master, I'll play it 2048x1536 with custom shaders, texture enhancement, 60fps, ect. People JUST don't understand the power of emulation on a GOOD i5 or above computer...
