So this game is fucking incredible
Any games like it? Any recommendations?
>inb4 System Shock 2
I'd actually prefer if there were recommendations of games with a similar dated/early 3D interface.
Literally Ultima Underworld
Ultima Underworld, sonny jim.
>>343942627
>>343942730
Looks cool.
Does it have mouse look like SSEE? Or any mods to add it?
Goddamn nigga, I was just playing SS which I bought from summer sale. Playing it for the first time and it's pretty awesome. Nice mix of action and point'n'click.
Check out Realms of the Haunting, it's very much like System Shock, except with 90s goth aesthetic. It also has sweet sweet cheesy FMV that makes it feel like some canceled 90s TV show.
Anyone know how to fucking change the controls?
Arx Fatalis
Terra Nova: Strike Force Centauri (SHODAN's VA is the voice of your battle armor's computer)
>>343942827
No.
>>343943498
>>343943861
Cool. I'll check these out. Thanks anons
>>343942827
You don't need one. Ultima Underworld isn't as action heavy as SS is so the default controls aren't that bad actually.
>tfw people are starting to realize just how much better SS1 is than 2
Thank you Nightdive for releasing the enhanced edition. Maybe now people can shut the fuck up about how great SS2 is.
>>343945910
The remake will fool people into thinking SS1 was more like SS2 than it was.
>>343946246
Sadly this is true. They've even been talking about adding RPG mechanics to the remake similar to SS2.
U L T I M A
U N D E R W O R L D
>>343943647
If you're using the enhanced edition you can edit
SteamLibrary\SteamApps\common\SS1EE\controls.cfg
But why do you want to? It uses a pretty standard WASD control scheme anon
>>343947450
>>343942627
>>343942730
I love SS1 but I just couldn't get into Ultima Underworld.
For games with maps that big and complex I really don't have much fun playing them unless they have minimaps. It's a pain in the ass bringing up the fullscreen map all the time just to get my bearings
>>343946389
Oh God, I heard about that. I will actually kill somebody if they go through with that.
>>343947924
>$1.7m Goal : Enemy limb dismemberment, More puzzles, Ammo types/weapon settings, Vending machines, Basic components/research, RPG progression, Weapon upgrading, Hardcore mode (No respawning), Ironman mode (Only 1 savegame. If you die, the save is deleted)
>Ammo types/weapon settings, a feature of the original, is locked behind a stretch goal
>the same stretch goal that would shoehorn the shitty SS2 mechanics
>>343948530
So it's basically System Shock 1 made for System Shock 2 fans.
>>343948530
Perhaps they meant more puzzles and ammo types, not more puzzles and the same old ammo types
>>343948530
>>343947450
This game would've been great on the ds with the second screen to add shit to the map and use the stylus to look around.
>nobody mentions that they want to add an orchestral soundtrack
>>343949101
They made some post I think about having people vote for either orchestral or classic music. Make sure to go bitch on their forums or kickstarter page so they don't fuck up the remake.
>>343949101
they want it to be scary just like alien isolation and dead space :^)
>>343942373
>meant to buy this during the sale but forgot
Should I grab it full price? Money is no object, it just slipped my mind. Heard good things about it.
>>343949101
>That orchestral track that starts playing when you get to the room the the view of Saturn
>We want the Bioshock audience
>>343948703
It's system shock remade to match the public image of people who never played it and heard about the second one being good.
probably closer to bioshock desu
>>343942373
yeah, the original ss1.
>they actually want to hide this glorious OST from everyone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkOCAm-v0U
>>343949521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVpK8ggIASY
they shoulda got this guy to do the new music
>>343949476
It will be.
I don't mind. It will probably end up being a pretty good game of its own, if not a remake.
That way it will draw more attention to SS1 and 2 and those will get more exposure in their normal form too.
>>343949521
>not best song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up80FfzySFA
gets me fucking pumped to go frag mutants and hack things
>>343949754
NiN as fug
>>343949651
It will be its own thing. They've already said they're adding new areas and have the story for those areas written by Chris Avellone along with some new environmental storytelling.
>>343949521
>play SS:EE
>Only get midi music that fucks up all the time
How fix?
>>343949982
that's how it's supposed to sound
>>343949651
True, I've seen much more discussion of SS1 after EE than I ever saw in all the years before it.
Someone from Night Dive mentioned the possibility of releasing SS1's source code, and if they do that all is forgiven.
>backtracking to every level to get the numbers for the code
>>343949982
install the mac version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3q356rZqQ4&ab_channel=A3D%27sLetsPlays
http://poal.me/ubp36k
VOTE, NOW
>>343949928
>have the story for those areas written by Chris Avellone
Honestly I'm really tired of Chris Avellone's shit.
>>343950190
>>343950072
>releasing SS1's source code
oh god please let this happen
>>343950072
>Someone from Night Dive mentioned the possibility of releasing SS1's source code, and if they do that all is forgiven.
That would be great, maybe that will allow .ogg playback of the music and someone can just record the music with the hardware they were meant to be played with as .ogg tracks and everyone else will be able to use that.
>>343950358
It's probably one of the first things in a good while where he's actually doing more writing than just 2 characters or just looking at some scripts. I like his stuff I just think his fanbase is autistic.
>>343945910
I heard it was better, but SS1's controllers were a huge turn off for me. UI was to over complicated as well, and half of the spoop factor came from you not knowing wether or not you'd be killed by not being able to fight back properly with the cancerous controls.
>>343949101
I wish the remake soundtrack would be like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mui0sj-kxLY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUrs7Hm7ibk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTpGMD8wlIA
Some oldschool techno and industrial.
>>343950486
>>343950072
I'm pretty sure the source code no longer even exists, it was lost during the death of looking glass
SSE isn't even an actual port, it runs using some kind of special wrapper or some shit
>>343950190
cybermage needs a gog release already. fuck getting things to work
>>343950595
I hate the way he always needs to make annoying mouthpiece characters for him to harp about settings, characters that are hyped up and can do no wrong.
>>343950679
well, directly porting a DOS game to modern windows is a big ask, the (fan made!) wrapper is the best solution really
>>343950679
They said they have their hands on it. Maybe it turned up in a Dreamcast or some shit like the Dark Engine's.
>>343950606
The UI isn't that bad. Don't be a little bitch and just enjoy the game.
>>343942373
Why people suddenly got into SS ?
I thought SS2 is way better also considering its not looking so bad you can chill and enjoy it.
>>343942373
I played this for a minute. The controls were impossible. Can they be fixed?
I did want to actually play this game, but I haven't had time to research how to make it playable.
I think Nightdive Studios is pretty based for bringing us some classics that would had been long lost without their help. They also published System Shock 2 after it was patched to work on anything newer than Windows 98, before that it was unplayable. I also love the point'n'click adventures they have recovered from the oblivion. Pic related.
>>343951373
play the enhanced edition.
>>343951373
There's a mouselook mod but even the originals controls will click by the time you reach the second level.
>>343951373
>>343951274
SS2 is better, but SS1 is pretty great too. There are some new releases of it now making it more widely available so people that never tried it get the chance to do so. There is also a kickstarter for a remake-reimagining of it that hopefully won't turn out like THI4F.
I won't spend money on it either way though.
>>343950606
enhanced edition literally has toggleable mouse look
>>343949101
I don't know. IF they sound like the original compositions but orchestrated and not just Bioshock rip offs, that would be alright with me.
Similar to what this dude did (which i love):
https://soundcloud.com/blaketothefuture/system-shock-ii-med-sci
https://soundcloud.com/blaketothefuture/system-shock-ii-engineering
>>343942373
The remake
>>343951501
GOD DAMN IT 4CHAN GIVE ME MY IMAGE BACK
Well I don't know what I expected
>>343951274
>Why people suddenly got into SS ?
It only recently became available on Steam. For a while, Steam (as well as GOG and other digital retailers) only had the sequel, and the first game could only be bought on a used disc. So it was practically abandonware until Nightdive Studios acquired the rights.
>>343951274
System Shock: Enhanced Edition was released and it was on great deal on steam summer sale so bunch of people bought it.
>>343951274
>ENHANCED EDITION
>i wonder why people are interested now
man, you're retarded
>>343951604
Shit what? thats the wrong image meant to post this
>>343951436
I was playing the enhanced edition.
If >>343951516 is right about the mouse look being toggleable, mine must have been toggled off.
I really didn't put much time into figuring it out so I guess I deserve retarded reaction faces like >>343951476. I'll try to get the game working properly later.
>>343951887
You press E to toggle mouselook on and off.
Some aspects are still clumsy, but it's manageable.
I don't care for the remake, but I can't wait to see how the levels look in HD.
>>343950190
EYE is a fantastic meme factory but far from the best game there.
>>343951536
Even that sounds totally unfitting, though it is cool. I don't know why they would think electronic
>>343951887
you press E to toggle the controls
fucking christ, read the manual in the install folder (SS1 Enhanced Controls.pdf)
you have no one to blame but yourself you dipshit
![PowerPadF[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uJbJgEq.jpg "PowerPadF[1].jpg")
>>343951887
you have to play it using one of these
>>343952145
did steam even give you the manual? I have the gog release (and portable) so idk
Is there anything comfier than 90s cyberpunk and sci-fi? Too bad cyberpunk is nowadays all about that shiny white Apple store look.
>>343952334
yes. the steam release is identical to the gog version.
it's even drm-free. you can play it without even opening steam
>>343952670
>Too bad cyberpunk is nowadays all about that shiny white Apple store look.
You mean it's all about "muh neon '80s Bladerunner look".
>>343952334
Go to your steam game page, select System Shock, and you can see all the stuff under the "link" on the right. Or if you open the folder where you have installed the game you can find the manual there. Steam version also comes with soundtrack and strategy guide.
>>343952670
The only thing comfier than 90's cyberpunk is 90's Warren Spector talking about 90's cyberpunk.
http://av.cah.utexas.edu/index.php?title=WSpector:Dv_00124
>>343942373
how am i supposed to play this game? jesus fuck the controls are so awful i cant even get past the first cyberspace area. im fine with dated games but this is too much
>>343953834
You point at things and then shoot them.
I got pretty far the first time I played, but stopped about half way through because I completely ignored cyberspace and heard the final boss was through cyberspace. Should I just restart or can I make to the end with that current save?
>>343951653
Does SHODAN kills you after that?
>>343954230
The game just ends and boots you back to the main menu. It's effectively a game over.
>>343954230
I can't remember if the player dies, but it's an immediate game over if you do that.
>>343953924
ive figured that much out, and mouse look makes it less of a hassle, but you have to switch them so much to mess around with your inventory screens and whatnot.
>>343954230
It shows the usual game over cutscene where a cortex reaver gets you.
Speaking of which, one chance for SSR to make an improvement over the original is better use of the cortex reavers. They have a mean long range attack but since there are only a couple and you face them in close quarters, they never make use of it and it's underwhelming.
>>343952145
Calm down, faggot. I wasn't "blaming" anyone.
>>343954997
you misunderstood me. I was blaming you for your own stupidity
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TEzAMAk.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>343954505
I wouldn't mind more of these guys in 2 either. There'sKorenchkinand the ones inside the body of the many and... I can't think of any more. A few of them with that mass of hybrids when SHODAN is pissed and you blow up the shuttles or in the room whereDelacroix diedwould have been cool
>>343956128
So, why can't I open the Maintenance Closet in level 3? I've lowered the security to like 7%, but SHODAN is like NO.
Is it me or does SS1 pull off the realistic space station level design better than SS2?
>>343956321
you know all those other doors you can't open yet? there's cameras in there you need to destroy.
they open up later in the game, just move on to the other levels for now
>>343956512
Okay. That explains the whole "No Maintenance Required" shit.
Hopefully I can make some progress, Just need to get the isotope.
>>343956128
I wanted to do something like that for Thief but its maps aren't so precise.
>>343957686
>which way do I go?
>head towards the chirpy bird and hit the switch before up towards the smiley face
>>343957909
what now?
![cb1ce380db886130997118a137685118bcecd938_600[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LTPeToQ.jpg "cb1ce380db886130997118a137685118bcecd938_600[1].jpg")
>>343958010
we don't need a map where we're going
>>343958294
True, that level is pretty linear.
>>343954483
its literally a key press
did you have a problem w/ morrowind too
>>343958597
surprisingly enough, no, morrowind is my favourite tes game. i just dont like that much menu shit in an fps
>>343958953
well shock isn't an FPS per se. It's Ultima Underworld IN SPACE with laser guns
>>343942373
Arx Fatalis is Ultima Underworld 3 in all but name, since the license was in IP hell.
>>343951653
That seems like it would be a weird party
>H-H-HUMAN INTR-RUDER WOULD YOU LIKE ANOTHER MALIBU B-B-B-B-BAY BREEZE?
>can i go home?
>ANOTHER BREEZE I-I-IT IS, INSECT
>>343950141
Why is the Mac version different?
>>343959375
i understand that, i suppose what im trying to say that i find the ui a hassle to use. im not fixing to wait for the remake, and i really, honest to god want to play the original, its just so dated
>>343951373
>how to make it playable.
it's already playable, you're just bad
>>343959470
Doesn't EA have the Ultima IP now?
>>343960386
Like I said, IP hell.
>>343960274
EE is the "fixed" version. It's a one button toggle, if you can play SS2 you can play 1 EE faggot.
>>343960501
why quotations on 'fixed'
>>343960274
literally thousands of people have played and enjoyed the game in the modern era without updated controls; the problem is instead with you
>>343960634
to accommodate your narrow-minded belief that there was even a "problem" to begin with
>>343960464
What a shame. Ultima deserves better.
nah
is there any hope for Underworld Ascendant?
>>343962894
>Unity engine
No.
>>343950362
HOLY SHIT AHHHHH
>>343954505
They'll prob change enemy behaviors, but only because they think theyre remaking a horror game
>>343962894
theres the hope i have for the game being good
doesnt amount to much
but theres so few games of the style that ill take what i can get.
>>343960995
There's a new underworld game coming out anon where have you been? EA let them use the IP for underworld but not ultima.
>>343945325
>>343943861
If you're going to play Arx Fatal is you need to run it through Arx Libertatis first, otherwise it won't run right.
I don't know why no one mentions that, it's extremely important.
>>343962894
The game looks much better in motion to be honest. The skeleton still looks shit though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMg_3kSoWuM
>>343950362
>that guy just throws a towel
Holy fuck I'm dying.
>>343962019
I liked it.
>>343951604
Is it any good? Downloading it right now
>>343964918
I liked it
>>343959984
More space or something? Don't remember for sure
>>343951783
It's just the mod that existed for years though. They took it down on copyright grounds and started charging money for it, and only then did people become interested in it
Why do people think SS1 is horror game? The closest the game actually got to being a horror game was the autobomb maze at the bridge.
>>343949521
>Executive
My nigga of refined taste Executive Level best level.
>>343965613
Probably like DOOM where it was considered horror at the time.
>>343965613
SS2 is a horror game so people just attribute that to 1 as well.
>>343965761
Pretty much this. People also assume SS1 is an RPG too because 2 is.
>>343954483
There are key shortcuts for some of the menu stuff, 1-10 for augs and Q for cycling through weapons. Outside that I don't think it's that different from just bringing up a pause menu and digging through stuff, except you just press E instead of Tab
>>343966075
eh i don't think either 1 or 2 are really horror games, they just have spooky bits and tense atmospheres
i do get annoyed with people assuming ss1 is an rpg though
>>343966075
>People also assume SS1 is an RPG too because 2 is.
And with only 900,000 more dollars it will be!
>>343966580
Did they actually say they were adding RPG elements or are you just shitposting?
>>343965761
I wonder how much the music affects the mood though. If SS2 had SS1 music playing in the background it would feel pretty different. In that sense I'm interested in seeing how the remake will feel with the ambient instead of the original songs
>>343966758
>weapon upgrading is an RPG element
I guess every modern triple-A shooter on the market these days qualifies as such then.
>>343967147
Holy fuck, you're a retard. They list "RPG progression" and "weapon upgrading" as two separate items.
>>343967147
it's a list smdh
>>343964548
As long as they don't pull any randomly generated shit and hand make all their dungeons I think it'll be fine.
>>343967375
>stretch goal: $2 million
>procedurally generated levels!
>>343967634
I had no idea.
>>343966512
System Shock 2 is a real horror game.
>>343967767
>>343967634
Don't scare me like that asshole. This is as far as stretch goals go.
>>343968017
that's for underworld anon
>>343967984
i disagree, but i understand why you think so
>>343968132
read further up the comment chain
>>343967984
Thief is more of a horror game to be honest.
>>343965230
The mac version doesn't actually use those versions of the soundtrack, it uses a midi-like way to play music on the fly just like the dos version. The only difference between mac and dos would be some higher res sprites and different controls because of no right click on mac. I don't know how the guy who uploaded those "mac" versions of the soundtrack on youtube managed to believe they are from the mac version, but they're from here http://kofler.dot.at/sshock/ and as you can see they're not referred to as mac versions but as Tribe remixes. Tribe was the band that Greg LoPiccolo and Terri Brosius were a part of, and they appear to have done several remixes of the original dos soundtrack though only the intro remix ever made it officially into the game by replacing the midi intro in the late 1994 CD release of System Shock.
How is this guy cycling through items and stuff with key shortcuts? I can't see any keys for it in the manual, there's Q for weapons but what about medpacks and other consumables
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqYNRbABS_c
>>343970195
Doesn't this have the remix music in the background in that case, did he just swap the files or something >>343970325
>>343949982
Get a MIDI softsynth like BASSMIDI or CoolSoft so it can use a soundfont, I recommend SGM or WeedsGM3 or Choruim to use with it
Here's one track on WeedsGM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVoOhT9yHXs
>>343970538
No, that's not remixed music it's still midi, but appears to be using a different soundfont. The remixed Medical music is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17FAFpmNIWA
>>343942373
Bioshock Infinite
>>343942373
>I'd actually prefer if there were recommendations of games with a similar dated/early 3D interface.
Literally any early 3D game for PC pre-1995.
>>343947450
I was putting it off, but that sexy spokes on a wheel/central column map design just convinced me to drop everything
>>343965761
It's crazy, I can't play SS2, because I'm too scared but SS1 is quite fun.
>>343967038
I mean SS2 had blazing techno going for half the game too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bL7I_eWryI&t=26
>>343951653
It would be cool if in the remake, the game over is delayed by an hour since that's about how long it would take the laser to hit earth traveling at the speed of light from saturn.
>>343971792
SS2 is alien, SS1 is Die Hard (in space)
>>343951887
E.E. is pretty much system shock 2
>>343950362
DELET THIS NOW
>>343947854
Yeah I couldn't stand UU too after playing SS1.
I hate the survival elements and how the magic works. Controls are also somehow worse despite me liking the SS1 default control scheme.
>>343950362
Is it even possible to remove the guy from that place without making him cry with pain?
>>343948873
god damnit now i wish the DS/3DS had a first person dungeon crawler
they could've had a button to swap the screens to let you interact with the environment using the stylus
>>343942373
I played Deus Ex for the first time directly after beating this game. God damn I was blown away. But I assume you've played Deus Ex by now.
>>343965613
>>343965761
>>343966075
God damn am I glad I played SS1 first. This was just last year too.I still have yet to play SS2.
>>343942373
ultima underworld
arx fatalis kind of like a modern (2002) version of underworld get libertatis source port and leave vsync ON or the gesture casating will fuck up
there aren't many of the same caliber as those games though
>>343943861
terra nova is mmore like an action game though
>>343965613
>>343965761
>>343966075
It certainly has horror elements but it's like Doom where the main focus isn't to actually scare the player it's just a part of the world
>>343974986
That picture is kind of overstating it. I mean, the bottom left is all the same picture. There's no doubt one has more effort than the other, but no point in embellishing the point with fluff.
>>343951794
Someone posted that image at the exact same time you posted yours.
>>343952195
Huh, I still have mine. Wonder if it still worksI don't know why I have one, been here since I was little
