Why is this allowed?
because gays are legal in america so we must cover up boy tiddies
>>343935130
WAD UP?
>>343934997
You're an idiot OP.
The real question is why they're allowed tosell the European version.True Ending being locked behind a 100% certain glitch was bullshit.
What seems to be the problem today /v/?
"I'm not happy with the localization"?
"A translation of a game i don't plan on getting is getting butchered even though i can't read moonrunes so how would i understand the script to begin with"?
"A section of a game that is pointless is being removed and the localization team are evil pigs"?
"Western design is better than Eastern design, even though it has nothing to do with the gameplay or viceversa"
>>343935942
Wait, what?
>>343934997
Did they just use that art on the back of the box or something?
He wore the jacket for like 10 minutes at the beginning and that's it.
>>343934997
this is the dumbest thing i have seen this month
>>343936554
European version is unbeatable if you lock yourself into the True Demon Ending.
Spoilers ahead.
Once you beatKagutsutchi/Disco Ballyou get a short cutscene that always freezes in the same spot everytime. Which stops you from getting any ending, which then stops you from getting any of the newgame+ benefits and also locks you out of the True Final BossLucifer.
>>343934997
because he looks like a real, normal human being in the US version
>>343937149
Well shit, I just started playing it.
>>343937353
>real, normal human being
He is none of these things.
>>343937149
This is why I'm pirating.
I thought most of the issues were due to 50Hz. Can't 60 fix it?
>>343937648
You can still probably get the regular endings and as long as you don't enter the final part of the Labyrinth of Amala (Think it was called that) and watch the final cutscene there.
So you should still be able to finish the game normally and fight the bosses down there if you'd like too.
I realise that I may have worded this confusingly.
>>343938065
Tried both and neither of them worked unfortunately. The american version apparently works fine, but for some reason the EU version can't do the TDE.
>>343934997
what game is this?
>>343938516
shin megami tensei: nocturne
>>343938605
But it's an old game, why is this relevant ?
>>343938685
>2003
>old
You must be 18 years or older to post here.
>>343938971
>a 13 year old game isn't old
Well ok.
>>343939165
it's really one of the few games that aged like wine
We know you're underage anon and you won't admit it because a ban will hit you fast but nonetheless at least try to hide it instead of posting stupid shit and being called out on it
>>343940375
>aged like wine
come on, its still well playable but it didn't age that well, its a fucking ps2 game
>>343934997
>SMT Tittys get constantly censored
>since the jap version gets censored as well there is no thread about it
>>343940671
the artstyle fit in pretty flawlessly regardless of Kaneko's ability to draw real human beans
>>343937149
What the fuck are you talking about
I beat the EU version just fine
>>343934997
Is this real? Males usually don't get covered up
>>343940671
Have you seen some other ps2 games released the same year? Manhunt and Siren both aged like shit even though they are cult classics they still look and play like piss but Nocture has a great stylized look and feel and remains a nice change.
Again I know you won't admit to being underage and that's fine I was 16 when I first was introduced to 4chan so I know there are underage on 4chan but again at least make it less known.
Is this a joke or something? Right is the prologue appearance and left is after he gets turned into a demon which takes up 99% of the game.
>>343941089
No you dummy
>>343941089
It's just the outfit he wears during the game's prologue. It lasts for like ten minutes before the Demifiend action happens.
>>343940671
>PS2 games are now considered "Aged"
I'm so fucking old AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>343938971
>game was released 13 years ago
>not old
get with the times grandpa, no one thinks you're cool for being an old fart.
>>343941175
SMTs artstyle aged well but the game itself is blurry as fuck, as are the controls
pic related is obviously emulated but the point still stands when you compare both on console
>>343940980
Anon, it's a fact that the EU version's True Demon ending doesn't work.
I've tried multiple times with different settings and they all freeze in the cutscene just after the final boss but before the True final boss everytime without fail. The regular endings apparently work fine, but you're screwed if you get locked into the TDE.
If you know of a way to fix it please tell me, I'd sincerely love to be proven wrong.
>>343937149
I can't seem to find any verifiable source on this problem. I would appreciate assistance.
>>343935130
post more rare french people, they make me very happy
>>343941456
>tfw SH 3 and 4 still looks amazing.
How did they do it? the wizards.
>>343941456
good old PS2 motion blur. the bane of emulation
>>343941456
>blurry translates to old game
Tons of games now use "blur" effects to get an older feel, it doesn't make the game any older and it doesn't hinder anything for nocturne
stop nitpicking and just admit you're wrong.
>>343934997
The one on the left looks dumbtarded and impossible to take seriously. I can only assume it passed in Japan due to cultural differences.
If localization were as easy as running the script through Google translate, we wouldn't pay people for it.
>>343941902
I never said the game didn't age well, just not "like wine", thats an overstatement. FF12 aged "like wine", SMT Nocturne looks nice on screenshots but the controls feel kinda fuzzy and the visuals aren't as sharp in motion. Maybe I'm emulating it wrong though.
>>343942314
its not hard to be taken serious when having your shit look fucked up when you stand next to clowns like this
>>343942314
This thread makes me realize I've been here too long.
How the fuck do you not recognize nocturne? It's mentioned here pretty regularly.
>>343941570
Well I've got nothing concrete unfortunately.
I can confirm that it happened to meand continues to happenand that nothing has worked to fix it, but that means absolutely nothing when I can't prove it.
If you Google it you can see other people mention it as well, but again it still proves nothing.
>>343942601
But he looks fucking awesome. I love that hat.
>>343942592
It's called "stylized"
Games like Dark Cloud 2 also aged well because the stylization helps as does Rogue galaxy
If anything I would argue FF12 aged bad because of how bricky everything still looks for trying to gain a realism effect
Nocturne can still be enjoyed by younger audiences as you obviously are noticing and it means nothing
In fact I doubt you even are the same person as
>>343938685
In which this conversation was directed to originally.
>>343942601
>>343943013
did you misquote?
>bricky
I don't see it. FF12 is also very stylized aswell though, not as much as Nocturne but it still is.
If you were to rip out every asset and compare it Nocturnes enviroments would probably look better than ff12s, while ff12 has the better models. My point is that I've emulated both and looked and played great while Nocturne had fuzzy controls and slight input lag, and both blur and unsharp visuals. The latter may be a problem with emulation though since its optimized for FF12. Can't really compare both on native console, but I'd still be willing to bet.
>>343943110
>>343942842
Most I can find is that it's a small number of people having it occur when playing the PS2 disc on a PS3.
>>343943592
that post was a mess but I think I got my point across
>>343941803
>>343941902
force aggressive crc hacks in pcsx2 and it removes the blur. use these patches with it for maximum effect: https://www.reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/35ixub/pcsx2_progressive_scan_mode_patches_for_nocturne/
>>343943592
Well as someone who grew up with both and still play them on console I can say FF12 gives me more lag than nocturne, I don't emulate since I'm not a pc owner but at the very least these small blemishes do nothing to hinder the experience from the game which is why it "aged like wine" not just because it still looks good but also has a story, great characters, and difficulty to back it up. The graphical blemishes don't hinder much to this.
>>343934997
Doesn't he only wear the jaclet for a tiny bit at the beginning and turn demi-fiend for the rest of the game in all versions?
>>343944458
only 10 minutes in and those massive guns come out for the rest of the game
>>343934997
Shit b8
>>343944083
Well then, let's just say it's a warning from me then? I honestly can't find much on it either right now.
There is a chance you may be stuck unable to finish the game so keep a save file just before entering the final area in that Amala place, which is basically right after (mild spoilers ahead)Metatron.
You can fight and defeatMetatron, just don't continue onwards after beating him. As long as you do that you should be fine.
>>343944636
I like the demi fiend he is cute
>>343934997
i want that hoodie
>>343942842
This is why even back in the day I bought 60HZ NTSC games, lad. I couldn't get past any battle in Amala on my EU version without it freezing, so I imported. Fuck Ghostlight, seriously.
>>343944595
>tfw still sad no Mara in Nocturne
Yeah yeah, I know about the sidequest but I wanted him in my group, dammit.
>Game is called xXxLuCiFeR420xXx's Call in Europe
Why is this allowed?
>>343937149
I beat the EU version fine on my first try. Went for the True Demon ending, never heard of any glitches.
>>343934997
I never noticed that his hoodie has the little monster things from the press turn
That's neat
>>343946525
Nocturne>SMT IV>Apocalypse>2>1
>>343947264
>Nocturne
>good
>>343947264
Nocturne > I > SJ > II > IV
>>343947264
4 > SJ > LC > 2 > 1
>>343947857
>LC
oh look at this fucking special snowflake
>>343947359
Walter and Johnny were fucking idiots.
>>343948083
Alignment reps are almost universally idiots outside of DeSu. Nocturne is the only game where they don't immediately telegraph what their alignment will be shortly after meeting them, and that's purely because alignments aren't in Nocturne. They're still idiots anyways.
>>343934997
And people are blaming Nintendo for the TMS censorship
Hee Ho.
>>343948451
HEE! HO!
>>343948382
I dunno, The Strange Journey reps at least had understandable reasons for choosing their alignment.
>>343948595
You could say that about pretty much every rep, though. I mean, Jimenez gets a demon partner shortly after you meet him and Zelenin is introduced getting saved by angels and exclaiming her hatred for demons. It's played so straight it's as flat as a Lilim. The more you think about alignments, the more you realize how ridiculous everything and everyone outside of Neutral is.
>>343948083
Better than being an indecisive wimp.
>>343948382
I thought the SMT I reps were alright. Chaos hero was a power hungry nerd since the beginning of the game, he really didn't go full Gaiafag until he met Chaos heroineaka Yuriko aka Lilith
Law Hero was just a nice guy that got turned into the Messiah because Gabriel was watching him or something, whatever.
Zayin from SMT II was alright too, he's the only character aside from Aleph/Hiroko the game doesn't forget about/makes a complete joke.
>>343949007
She totally wanted Flynn's dick.
>>343942314
I wasn't even sure if OP could even be considered a bait image but well, there you go
>>343948451
H O
E H
E
>Apocalypse focuses heavily on the neutral route
>To the point where the Law and Chaos endings are basically game overs
>The only true endings are basically "Good Neutral" and "Evil Neutral"
Remember when this series was heavy on the moral greyness?
>>343942314
That's not a localisation though.
He takes off the jacket ten minutes in when he gets a demon parasite stuck in him.
He no longer wears a shirt because it shows that he's no longer entirely human.
>>343950808
He no longer wears a shirt because they wouldn't fit with his dumb neckhorn
The Demonica suit is fucking awesome looking.
>>343950714
>Remember when this series was heavy on the moral greyness?
No, SMT was always criminally black and white when it came to morality.
>>343937149
I experienced this bullshit. There's been plenty of threads on many sites about it as well.
>>343937149
This guy is telling the truth, it happened to me too.
>>343952116
>that helmet, and stupid flak jacket thing
>awesome
>>343950714
>Remember when this series was heavy on the moral greyness?
Law and Chaos are about as morally extreme as you can get. You have to be seriously delusional to think they're good examples of moral greyness.
>Nintendo of America will censor the fuck out of Apocalypse.
>>343937149
Almost had a heart attack
I played the game a while ago, almost got to the ending, beat most of the labyrinth and stopped.burnt out after being in the labyrinth for some hoursat least I know I haven't wasted my time on that dungeon for the True Ending
>>343953474
No they won't. Atlus USA is handling the localization and they already confirmed they won't change anything, even big Y will keep his name.
>>343953474
NoA has literally nothing to do with Apocalypse
They've already put character bios up in English and YHVH was namedropped
Persona>Mainline series.
>>343954453
>Using the term 'Mainline'
Opinion discarded.
>>343954453
Can you kill your friends in Persona?
>Not answering the call.
Soul Hackers > Strange Journey > IV > II > Nocturne > I
Better question is why were the new demon designs in SMTIV allowed?
They look straight outta tokusatsus.
I dont have the pic but I'm talking about that Medusa and red demon made of spikes
>>343934997
I know, why does Japan have to sexualize young half demon children
>>343954453
no but you can fuck them
>>343934997
Obvious bait.
Censorship shitposting aside, why is his design the best?
>>343956963
>they look straight out of Tokusatsu
Here's a secret, they fucking were. Same designer.
>this whole generation is about "accepting your body"
>proceeds to cover every trace of skin up
this is why I fucking hate the new age.
computers were a mistake
Just thinking about the absolute failure of a mainline that is Nocturne is enough to make me want to puke
And to think this game was actually made by both Cozy and Kaneko
What
were
they
thinking
Even #FE is more excusable than this.
>>343946525
answer him and tell him to fuck off
>>343948595
>>343948382
Strange Journey's reps were actually pretty smart and cool. Frankly, I actually felt sad when I killed both Jimenez and Zelenin. That right there signifies something other than idiocy.
>>343959670
Zelenin's a fuck
>>343959270
What are you even on about?
The Demifiend is shirtless most of the game regardless.
>>343959854
Correction: I liked Zelenin before that smug asshole Mastema brainwashed her into being a complete YHVH cock-sucking angel lawfag.
Jimenez was a total bro to the end, though.
>>343948961
I think SJ's alignments were too telegraphed and somewhat nonsensical, but SMT4 had a really great setup to make John and Walter believable.
Johnathan has been raised behind walls by luxuors his whole life, but he still maintains a connection towards casualries, showing he hasn't lost touch with his fellow man. Still, structure is all he knows, it's what he's been taught all of his life, and he sees the best way to improve peoples' lots in life is through the law.
Walter on the other hand has been looked down upon by a ruling class as being almost less than dirt, and thus he can't stand what in his eyes is an uncaring law that exists to shackle the majority of people, many of whom could rise beyond their current status if given a chance. He too is motivated by compassion for people, though in a way that runs completely opposite to Johnathan.
My only real complaint about SMT4's law and chaos hero is that Walter goes off the deep end too quickly, siding with demons and Lilith. I can understand him being sympathetic to the Black Samurai wanting to give knowledge to the masses, but it was a large leap from knowledge to serving demons to bring down the current order.I still like Jim and Zelenin better anyway, even though I feel like they're more flimsy as characters.
>>343960107
That's part of the point though, both of the characters lost themselves when they fused with demons. Zelenin completely lost sight of how humanity feels and would probably have been taken back if her human self could've seen what she became. Jimenez might've felt a little remorse as well, but it's hard to say. I think it was less power corrupting him on his part and more a decent into madness when he came to terms with the fact that he might never escape the demon infested realm of the Schwarzwelt.
>>343959156
Demifiend is the worst design to ever come from Kaneko
