Is this the most overrated console of all time? People act like Nintendo was good back then but they've always been mediocre.
>>343904782
Dreamcast and Xboxes exists, so no.
>>343904782
>most overrated consoles
That title belongs to the PS1, hell, maybe even the PS4
Even in the 90s Sony fans were loud, unbearable autists
PS2 was god tier though
>>343904965
>>343905036
Hell no, those consoles had WAY better libraries. Even the PS4 at this point has a better library than the N64 which is mostly criminally clunky games that are only liked because of nostalgia like Goldeneye and DK64. PS1's library has also aged miles better, particularly with games like Xenogears and Symphony of the Night.
>>343905036
PS1 was amazing. Fuck you.
>Armored Core
>Bushido Blade
>Crash Bandicoot series
>Crash Team Racing
>Final Fantasy VII
>Final Fantasy Tic Tacs
>Ghost in the Shell
>Gran Turismo
>Legend of Dragoon
>Medievil
>Metal Gear Solid
>Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
>Final Fantasy IX
>Silent Hill
>Tekken 3
>Tomb Raider 2
>Wipeout 3 Special Edition
>Alien Resurrection
>Brave Fencer Musashi
>Chrono Cross
>Deception 3
>Einhander
>Fear Effect
>Intelligent Qube
>Klonoa
>Oddworld
>Omega Boost
>Parasite Eve
>Resident Evil 3
>Ridge Racer Type 4
>Soul Blade
>Spyro series
>Vagrant Story
>Valkyrie Profile
>Xenogears
And that's just off the top of my head.
>>343905378
Couldn't you tell it was just an angry nintendrone by the fact that he inmediately tried to deflect to Sony and how its fans are ''unbearable autists? Nobody with a sane mind would think the PS1 is bad or more overrated than the N64.
>>343904782
N64 just didn't have very many good games. The handful it did have were unique and fun but 95% are just garbage
>>343905378
>bleach image
>an autistically long and specific list
Case in point and sony fans and autism.
>>343905036
Not even close. PS1 was a revival of the SNES in terms of quality and variety. PS2 simply continued that trend.
>>343904782
It would absolutely be N64 and GameCube. People cherry pick their babby's first games to attest to the console's quality - and to be fair GC and N64 had several top tier games.
The thing the GC babbies on /V/ forget was that there was an unbearable drought of games for the last 3 years of it's lifespan. You can count all the good GC games on two hands, while the PS2 had nearly a limitless supply good games from of a ton of different genres.
These are the same people that keep propping up Sunshine and Wind Waker like they were anything other than dumbed down shit from their better predecessors.
>>343905540
That's what I meant. It only has a handful of genuinely good games that aren't overrated by nostalgia and low childhood standards yet it's treated as the second coming of christ and part of the period of when people thought Nintendo was good.
N64 spawned a number of historically progressive titles and concepts like Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Goldeneye, 4-player multiplayer on consoles and the modern usage of the analog stick. So no, I'd say it's earned its wings. Whether you think it's aged well or not is another matter but it definitely made some impact and definitely deserves some praise.
>>343905730
Except 5 good, or even amazing games do not make an entire console good. N64 was the first "no games" station, as otherwise its library was full of horse shit.
>>343905639
It really boggles the mind when people say ''Nintendo was good before the Wii U!'' when in reality they've always been a complete joke who were only liked because of nostalgia and how blind people were to how unacceptably terrible their consoles' libraries were.
They also did greedier practices than they do today like making you have to buy a gba, a metroid fusion cartridge, a gamecube-gba connector cable and beat the game just to unlock all the content in Metroid Prime, which was already on the disk.
Or the whole e-card thing, it was levels whole locked inside the cartridge that were only unlockable by buying the adapater and the cards.
Or making you have to buy 4 GBAs and a 4-way connector cable just to play Four Swords Adventures in multiplayer even though 4 gc controllers would be fine.
People never remember how EA-tier they were back then and think that they only went to shit nowadays.
>>343905730
As a PS1 fan I won't argue with that.
>>343905639
Wind Waker is a lesser 3D Zelda for sure but Sunshine's issues weren't so much in the mechanical department as much as they were in aesthetic, namely that the game feels very samey very quickly. In terms of raw gameplay, it's not that much weaker than 64, if not even a hair better in select instances.
>>343905730
A few good games that ended up aging badly and only liked by nostalgia doesn't make the console the next coming of christ like people treat it.
>>343905558
>anime CRINGEY weeaboos amirite gais xD
>>343905378
I hate it when people throw the autism label around, but this... THIS is autism right here.
>>343905229
>Hell no, those consoles had WAY better libraries.
Nope.
>Even the PS4 has a better library
b8
>>343906102
Sunshine was very obviously rushed, there's so many goddamn red coin missions and combined with the blue coin shines, there's 43, out of the game's 120 shines. It's buggy as hell too, most noticeably in the pachinko level, casino level and that part in the park where you have to climb a bunch of chain link fences.
>>343906274
No, it's not. It's just a fucking list of some noteworthy games on a single system.
It's just annoying when people use a mental illness as a calling name.
>>343906401
Boy you sure told me.
>>343906003
>My parents were poor and/or I didn't have friends growing up: the post
I played Four Swords and Crystal Chronicles with 4 people all the time. I had two GBAs and two link cables and I knew kids who had them too
>>343906274
>List of games
>Autism
Confirmed for not knowing what autism is.
>>343906274
>listing video games and having knowledge about video games is austism
Cancer killing /v/. Fuck off retard.
>>343906527
>you're just poor haha!
Biodrones use this excuse to defend their company's greedy practices too.
>>343906527
Because you and you're retarded friends had been spoiled by your parents, and bought those expensive and otherwise useless peripherals.
It was true, unforgivable jewery on Nintendo's part and your idiotic parents did not help in that regard.
>GC babbies, everyone
>>343906419
Fair, but there are few moments in 64 as good as the FLUDD-less levels and you say Sunshine is buggy as though 64 isn't breakable. I'm not even one for breaking games and even I can do the endless stairs glitch, I can only imagine what people can do when they actually try to exploit the game.
Now? Yes.
Then? No.
Time hasn't been kind to the N64. Early 3d games were the awkward teenage years of gaming.
PS1 was flooded with a bunch of shovelware thus lacked in quality gameplay variety. N64 had all top quality titles, PS1 had dirt cheap knock off brand games.
Despite the sheer size of the library, worthwhile PS1 games to N64 games are 1:1.
>inb4 someone posts a list of PS1 games padded with 100 weeaboo JRPGs
It just hasn't held up well.
>/v/ is finally realizing the GC and N64 were overrated trash and that Nintendo went to shit not recently but rather after the SNES
I'm so glad.
>>343904782
I don't think it's overrated really, most don't consider it that amazing.
It did have a few games that were amazing that completely changed the industry at that point in time.
I lost so much of my life to goldeneye. Good times.
Wasn't really that many games worth owning though
>>343905378
Final Fantasy 8 was better than 7 or 9.
>>343906746
Even with that stairs bug the whole game is still miles less boring and rushed-looking than Sunshine.
>>343904782
Second most, maybe. The most overrated would be the 360
>>343905971
I had both the ps1 and the n64 as a kid and both had shitty games, but in quantity the ps1 takes the cake. I remember felling disapointed a lot more with ps1 shit games than n64 ones.
Also
>yoshi's island 2
Fuck you nintendo and fuck you sony, nowadays you can see a thousand reviews before buying anything, but back in the day you just saw the cover of the gtame or maybe a magazine shilling the game so you had no option but to buy it, or maybe borrow it if a friend owned it
>>343907049
>The most overrated would be the 360
0/10
>>343906836
> N64 had all top quality titles, PS1 had dirt cheap knock off brand games.
You are fucking kidding yourself. N64 was the one with shitter entries of series that were on the PS1 like Castlevania 64 being a complete crock of shit compared to Symphony of the Night. N64 had a handful of good games, meanwhile look at this post in comparison >>343905378.
>>inb4 someone posts a list of PS1 games padded with 100 weeaboo JRPGs
>t-t-t-those don't count because I say so!
>>343906003
>even though 4 gc controllers would be fine.
No, It wouldn't be. The game had parts where a player was out of a cave, and another was in the cave. GBA handhelds were used to not make a mess and confusion in the TV screen.
Also, FSA allowed you to play alone, even with just a Gamecube controller.
N64 fags are a prime example of a minority being loud as fuck
>ps1 had 100 million worldwide sales
>N64 had 30 million
>b-b-but sony fags are loud and never shut up
>HEY GUYS REMEMBER THIS GEM, GOLDENEYE? XD? US 90S KIDS!
>>343906836
>N64 had all top quality titles
"no"
I feel like the N64 would be a slightly better choice if you were a kid at the time of that gen. The PS1 was more teen/adult oriented.
>>343907041
Well, that comes back to Sunshine's lack of diversity more than anything. I still don't think it's that much worse than 64 overall.
>>343907049
0/10
>>343906969
>I don't think it's overrated really
How the hell is it not? It only had a handful of good games, its library is one of the worst of all time yet it's treated as the second coming of christ, same with the Gamecube.
>>343907237
Sales don't prove shit
>>343907376
they prove my point of a minority being loud as fuck, fagatron
>>343907123
The fuck does your personal childhood anecdotes matter to anyone? Especially since it's limited by the games YOU bought? It's like saying ''I only bought shitty SNES shovelware like so it's a bad console''.
Looking at both systems library, the PS1 outdoes the N64 so bad it's not even funny.
>>343904782
You don't like fun, do you?
>>343907049
Oh God, this. That console wasn't a complete embarrassment in its first couple of years but it went to shit fast, especially in the Kinect era, not to mention it was a pioneer in standardizing paid online MP. Despite all that so many people stood by it, and mostly because "well, all my friends have one". God, the 360 was such a joke in retrospect. Hell, even its good years were offset by its abhorrent hardware failure rate.
>>343907235
>No, It wouldn't be.
Yes it would, all they'd have to do is move the ''gba screens'' into each corner of the tv screen, with them being smaller than the big ass one that you see in single player mode, not to mention there's a way to hide them (pressing Z).
>Also, FSA allowed you to play alone, even with just a Gamecube controller.
Good thing I said nothing against that statement, I said the GBAs were required for multiplayer. The same shit happened for crystal chronicles.
>>343907494
>Not liking Rare in its prime
>>343907616
Saved, thanks. This really proves a lot.
>>343907616
ill argue about ps1 vs n64 forever but this image is just has butthurt as most nintendo fans
>>343906836
>N64 had all top quality titles
Muh GoldenEye 007.
>weeaboo JRPGs
>weeaboo Japanese Role-Playing Games
>something japanese is pretending to be japanese
Mario brainwashed an entire generation in some countries.
>>343907280
360 had like, 3 worthwhile exclusives that all came out in its first three years. Everything else was Halo or Gears horseshit for smelly spics and loud brats.
>>343907317
>I don't think it's overrated really
>how the hell not
Did you read the qualifying statement afterwords? I don't actually know many that would say it is. I think the majority would either go snes or ps1/2.
The actual system wasn't that great. It had a few games that revolutionized the entire industry. That's it.
I owned a 64. I think that when it was all said and done I didn't get more than like 6 games for it. Those 6 were amazing, industry breaking things though
>>343907596
Actually even the 360 had a miles bigger, better library than the N64, even if it was mostly multiplats.
>>343907235
You lack any fucking imaginative ability if you actually think that justifies the need for GBA controller.
>>343907814
>I think the majority would either go snes or ps1/2.
Who the hell would say that? They had huge libraries with hundreds of great exclusives.
The n64 is treated as one of the greatest when in reality it's one of the worst.
>>343907616
>quantity over quality
wew
>>343907814
The only people who claim this are those who didn't play very many games for it. Aside from the 1st party stuff you had fantastic games like both Goemon, Mischief Makers and everything Rare did. That's a big library of quality games.
>>343907123
Perhaps you picked out shittier games, you fucking dunce. The PS1's library is fucking vast compared to N64 with it's 5 good games, - there's something for everyone.
>>343907616
>library by console
>include pc
Why?
>>343907754
>logical explanation with facts is butthurt
>>343907963
see
>>343905378
meanwhile the N64 only had a handful of good titles, most of them haven't aged well either.
>>343907723
You mean SNES?
>>343907790
This. 360 had almost nothing it was almost as bad as the barren years of the PS3.
The only reason I got one was because I wanted backwards compatibly. Even during that short time period where it had the Jrpgs and the only two really notable ones were Lost Oddesy and Vespria.
Also it had lots and lots of shumps for some reason. So there's that at least.
>>343907981
>. That's a big library of quality games.
No it's not, you can count the good games on 2 hands, the rest are horrible, clunky messes that were only liked because of nostalgia and low childhood standards like Goldeneye and Turok.
>Mischief Makers
That unfinished ass looking game?
>>343904782
The PS1 is the most overrated console of all time. As always quality > quantity.
>>343907981
I did play a lot of them. A lot were shit or not worth owning. It's that simple man.
Really, just needed like 5 games. Goldeneye, mario, zelda, starfox, and that one wrestling game that was fun as fuck.
>>343908239
> looking
You should play Mischief Makers before talking shit about it.
>>343908151
Rare released great games for both SNES and N64.
>>343907954
Are we in the same thread?
Because most of these posts are anti-n64.
Go into a favorite console thread sometime. Most will be snes/ps
>>343907439
>minority
my entire town had an N64, and we had tons of blast in 4p modes.
>>343908239
>the rest are horrible, clunky messes
>Not talking about the PS1 library
oh I am laffin
>>343908308
>Not Mario Kart
>Not Paper Mario
>Not OoT
>Not Majora's Mask
>Not mystical ninja
Confirmed for having been born this decade or possibly writing this from in utero.
Turok 2
Turok Rage Wars
Doom 64
Super Mario 64
Mario Kart 64
Starfox
Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
Glover
Pokemon Stadium
Bomberman 64
Super Smash Bros
Clayfighter 63 1/2
Paper Mario
Donkey Kong 64
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Jet Force Gemini
Snowboard Kids
Mario Party 2
Banjo Kazooie
Diddy Kong Racing
Buck Bumble
Killer Instinct Gold
Harvest Moon 64
Mischief MakersShake Shake
Pilot Wings
>>343908453
>a list of largely overrated games a lot of which were ported to other systems even in their day
Somethings never change.
>>343908308
>only needed
Well that explains it, you have low standards.
>>343908414
I did play it, I beat it all. It's one of the most bizarre retail games I've ever played, it looks like a pre alpha with how barren and low quality everything looks and how the levels' duration are a complete mishmash, some last a while and other LATER ones only last a minute.
>>343907616
>Literally defending Sony fanboys.png
>>343905378
4/5ths of this is trash. I would list a long list of trash N64 games except the N64 only had good games.
>>343908661
Not to mention they were a lot better on the N64 due to CDs having abysmal load times. SF2 Collection had 45 seconds of load time between every match,
Shit, games like Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 6 were better on the FUCKING SNES because of this.
Can Sony ever recover from this humiliation?
>>343908661
>a lot of which were ported to other systems even in their day
Maybe because they are good. I don't see people playing Goldeneye on 3DS or WII U.
>>343908593
The PS1 has far better games that have aged much better like Symphony of the Night and Xenogears.
>>343908661
Explain how each one of them is overrated.
>ported
Yeah like uh...FF7? That PC port sure was great right? D'oh wait it's one of the worst of all time.
>>343908661
You lost.
Give it up.
You are only embarrassing yourself further than you already have accomplished.
>>343908549
>Are we in the same thread?
Do you seriously think we're only considering people in this thread?
>>343904782
N64 was a good console only because rare was such a powerhouse back then, they pretty much saved the console from being shit
>>343908681
>some last a while and other LATER ones only last a minute.
Levels lasting different lengths of time is seriously something you are going to complain about?
>>343908746
Are you butthurt to the point you just can't think of anything to say and just post "le epic rage face maymay sonyggers on suicide watch xd" ?
>>343908886
>Symphony of the Night
I liked it better when it was called Super Metroid.
>Xenogears
Surely you do not consider this unfinished heap of garbage as an argument in your favor?
>>343908619
The only game that has aged well at all is Paper Mario and maybe the Mario Parties because of how simple the latter are.
Also F-zero X, which your list didn't have.
>>343907616
>A sonygger tired of being called a sonygger made this unironically
>>343908997
Rare has been shit since Battletoads and most definitively DKC2.
The N64 was great despite their toxic influence.
>>343909068
>I liked it better when it was called Super Metroid.
Yeah, I remember playing Super Metroid on the N64.
>>343908901
Wrong, but even if I was the owner of all those posts, what would that matter?
>>343905378
Banjo Kazooie
Banjo Tooie
Bomberman 64
Bomberman 64-2
Bomberman hero
Conker's bad fur day
Diddy kong racing
Donkey Kong 64
F-zero x
Goemon
Golden eye
Harvest Moon
Hey You Pikachu
Kirby 64
Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
Mario Golf
mario Kart
Mario party 1-3
Mario tennis
Megaman 64
Mischief makers
Paper Mario
Perfect Dark
Pokemon Stadium
Pokemon Stadium 2
Quest 64
Snowboard kids
Starfox 64
Super mario 64
Smash brothers
Yoshi's story
And those are just the games I personally know are good and that still hold up.
>>343908551
>b-b-but muh town!
doesnt mean shit fag, 30m sales vs 100m
M I N O R I T Y
>>343908886
>Yeah like uh...FF7? That PC port sure was great right? D'oh wait it's one of the worst of all time.
Outside of the MIDI music (which is accurate from a technical perspective), what was wrong with it? I'm not going to pick apart every last game in that list like some sperglord, I will say 3D action games like Medievil and shooters like Alien Resurrection don't hold a candle to games in the same genre on the N64.
>>343908904
Autism at its finest.
>>343908593
I said zelda, so not sure why you wanted to sperg about oot and majora. Mario kart was fun. Paper mario was great but there was absolutely no reason to own it.
Problem with most 64 games- no replayability. It was a rent games console
Reminder that Final Fantasy 7 killed the N64
>>343905036
>PS2 was god tier though
Name five good PS2 exclusives that aren't weebshit.
>>343909253
Can add Snowboard kids 2 and Goemon 2 to that.
I love how this thread started out by a buttmad Sonygger trying to stir some shit and it literally became all of the day bro HA HA HA
>>343909036
I said it looks unfinished as hell, like a pre-alpha. There's no logical consistency in its progression and the whole game looks like a bunch of assets that were supposed to be polished later on.
>>343909264
That's because the hardware was shit and cheap and breaks constantly forcing people to buy a new one. Not to mention the attach rate as always was shit because most of the people who bought them were poor beaners who pirate everything.
>>343909098
>Game X still plays and looks fine.
>It aged poorly.
I think you'll have to explain your definition of "aged poorly" in order for your post to make any sense.
>tfw the saturn is never mentioned in a 5th gen thread
where are my saturn bros at?
>>343909047
Are you trying to defend that fanboyish contrived nonsense?
I wouldn't doubt it if you were the one who made it
>>343909194
Dude, what. Even if you think they declined in the N64 era you don't think it's a little disingenuous to shit on things like Perfect Dark's TECHNOLOGY or Banjo-Kazooie blowing SM64's level progression out of the water with integrated world objectives?
>>343909329
Except for all those games that lasted 20 years. Even you had to admit MK64 is fun.
>>343909504
Most of the good Saturn games were Japan only
>>343909504
I like it anon.
>>343909513
>Still no argument
Do you enjoy shitting on everything you see ?
>>343909550
Focus on technology and presentation at the expense of gameplay killed them in my eyes. BK was a joke, compared to SM64 you can barely even jump. In a platformer. It was a novelty, not a game worthy of playing.
>>343909569
Yeah, but you're acting like it was the first fucking time mario kart came around.
>>343909504
Saturn and N64 both have really unique libraries that I like a lot.
![gfs_41872_1_1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zOCow7g.jpg "gfs_41872_1_1[1].jpg")
>>343909253
>Hey You Pikachu
Barely a game, even when the microphone actually works.
>Quest 64
Come on, mate.
Other than that, it's good. Add Chameleon Twist, which I just noticed it has this bizarre subtitle.
>>343909392
What's weebshit?
>>343909194
even if you genuinely think this, i hope you do realize that rare games made the console sell
There are some great games on the Gamecube and N64. This is undeniable.
The Playstation 2 is still, pound for pound, the best and most successful console to have ever been made. This is also undeniable.
Deal with it.
>>343905378
>Off the top of my head
>More or less alphabetical order
>Clearly looked up a list on wikipedia
I do not think that phrase means what you think it means.
>>343909693
>Look ma, I'm having an epic internet argument!
>>343909253
>Hey you Pikachu
>Quest 64
Really?
>Megaman64
That is not even an exclusive
>Kirby 64
>Yoshi story
>Gemon
Good games but a step bakwards compares to their SNES counterparts
Everything else I kind of agree although Mario party/Tennis are kind of filler
>>343907475
And that's your opinion, dipshit, state it clearly and be objective, both had awesome games and both had mass amounts of shitty ones too:
>>343908004
it's clear that ps1 has more shit games because it has more games overall, shithead
>>343909704
To each their own. BK was the first game I truly fell in love with so I admit some bias there but I can see some issues people can take with it, like it being much slower and unwieldy to control compared to SM64. Still, I do think it made some advancements on SM64's foundation.
>>343905229
>dreamcast had a better library than the N64
PS1 kicks both their asses but N64 has the usual lineup of good Nintendo games and the 2-3 good 3rd party exclusives
>>343909767
It was a vast improvement from the original. That's like saying people weren't hyped over Super Metroid because it wasn't the first time.
>>343909849
Sales figures suggest it didn't. Thank god they got rid of that cancer in time for the Wii and DS so they wouldn't suffer defeat any longer.
>>343909851
The Gamecube was the real N64, that thing only had like 13 great games.
>>343910010
Then how come the genre pretty much died out afterwards until Galaxy revived it again?
>>343909392
Ace Combat 5, Ace Combat Zero, Silent Hill 2, Jak and Daxter, Jak 2 spring immediately to mind.
>>343910091
>Sales figures suggest it didn't
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_64_video_games
>>343910137
>Silent Hill 2
really nigga?
>>343909846
mostly JRPGs
>>343910091
>3D platformers
>dead in the 6th gen
Yeah, no.
>>343910137
>Ace Combat 5, Ace Combat Zero, Jak and Daxter, Jak 2 spring immediately to mind.
I'm gonna be sick. Disney Infinity on the PS2.
At least say God Hand
>>343909894
I wouldn't mind trying quest again. Was young when it came out. I remember getting my ass kicked, but wanting to see all the Magick
>>343907616
>Not only was the PSX the best console of all time
>completely changed gaming forever
>While me, you and other cool people were playing Sony's Playstation
>Never give your children Nintendo products
Holy fucking shit, I have never seen such a fanboyish, Sony dick sucking image in my life. This is worse than NeoGAF
fucking kill yourself
>>343909068
>I liked it better when it was called Super Metroid.
Mate if you're going to suddenly argue about unoriginality you better not be on Nintendo's side, literally every single ''revolutionary'' thing they've done was done by earlier games, like Zelda being a shitty copy of Hydlide
It's the only time Nintendo was competitive when it came to rated M titles. Every Nintendo fan saw the decline to only family-friendly gaming since then.
>>343909504
best game
>>343910223
>List of fastest cripples.
In order for a game to help the console sell, the console actually needs to sell.
>>343909894
>That is not even an exclusive
Well the PS1 list also has non-exclusives.
>>343910452
>Zelda is shitty and Hydlide isn't
I'm I in a parallel universe?
![Shining%20Force%203%20Scenario%201%20(E)%20Front+Back[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DjC2X3n.jpg "Shining%20Force%203%20Scenario%201%20(E)%20Front+Back[1].jpg")
>>343909504
Fuck yeah Saturn.
>>343909851
>This is undeniable.
The fact is that there's only a few, and of those few most are liked because of nostalgia and low childhood standards (like Goldeneye), yet the N64 is treated as the second coming of christ.
>>343905647
I'm with you. It's the only Nintendo thing I ever owned next to a gameboy color and I don't care to buy their products again.
>>343907041
64 and Sunshise had a share of flaws and good parts. 64 had good content and gameplay, but the camera was horrible to handle and level design was bland, except Cave Dungeon (grass, ice, lava, desert level), while Sunshine had a nice variety of level design based in the theme and expanded gameplay, but it was short and the final boss was nice but a disappoint.
>>343910589
The console sold enough to keep them out of the red with Rare titles being in the top sellers, in other words Rare games sold the system for some and kept it alive post 1998.
>>343910452
Except for all that revolutionary shit Zelda did which Hydlide didn't.
>Hurr durr SMB ripped off Defender because it had a screen which scrolled
SOTN didn't do anything which Metroid and Maze of Galious hadn't before. In fact all CVs since have been ripoffs of contemporary games that are popular, they ripped off DMC twice and then god of war twice.
>141 posts
>39 IPs
>>343910137
I'm pretty sure Silent Hill 2 isn't a PS2 exclusive.
I was expecting more diversity than that though, I mean what if someone doesn't like flight simulators, they are left with two games of the same series. That really considered god tier?
>>343910589
Even by modern standards you can't call games like SM64, OoT, and Goldeneye cripples. Those all considerably outsold a game like, say, RE6. N64 had some games with insane attach rates.
>>343909486
>>Game X still plays and looks fine.
But they don't, they have criminally low fps (like how OoT runs at 20 but every kid just ate that shit up), clunky controls, balloon-like graphics and just poor gameplay in general because it was the start of the 3d era and devs were still getting used to, they didn't put much effort in their N64 titles compared to PS1 though.
>>343909961
>And that's your opinion, dipshit, state it clearly and be objective
I am being objective in the fact that the PS1 had miles more, better games than the N64 who only had a handful.
>>343910889
Yeah, console wars in general. People just don't understand that they should respect the preferences from others.
>>343910683
that happens when someone is butthurt and starts to spill arguments like dhiarrea for tthe sake of being contrarian
>>343910473
>It's the only time Nintendo was competitive when it came to rated M titles.
What? You sure you're not talking about the Gamecube?
>>343911012
You're a lost cause m8, your head's so up your anus it's not even funny to argue with you.
Have this (you) instead
>>343911006
How the fuck do you compare zelda with dark cloud?
Completely different fucking games
>>343910865
>Except for all that revolutionary shit Zelda did which Hydlide didn't
Like what? Fucking hell Zelda even copied the characteristic screen scrolling and dungeon-based progression.
>SOTN didn't do anything which Metroid and Maze of Galious hadn't before.
Metroid didn't have tons of rpg elements though, which is a huge deal in SoTN.
>>343910929
Just came here from Neogaf I see. Nobody else would criticize OoT's gameplay and framerate while also praising the PS1 in anyway without realizing how fucking stupid they sound.
>>343910683
>>343911038
Let me guess, you're thinking about the crappy NES port of Hydlide?
I like the N64. It was before voice acting and the cinematic experience ruined 3D gaming.
Even the """bad""" games are still games, with levels and bosses and such. I'll take that over Press X to call your wife's son any time.
>>343911232
PS1 had plenty of great 2D games that played at high framerates.
Alundra was a better successor to Link to the Past than Ocarina of Time was.
>>343910917
I was specifically trying to avoid things that could be classified as 'weebshit'. If you start including things with jRPG roots or otherwise includes classically Japanese style decisions, the list explodes.
But yes, as >>343910230 said Silent Hill 2 came out on the Xbox and PC as well apparently. I hadn't realized that.
So replace that with Wipeout Fusion or God Hand.
If including more Japanese style things the list gets quite a bit bigger. The PS2 was the last hurrah of Japan being the central cultural release point for vidya in the world, before the Xbox 360 pretty much dominated the market and shifted the concentration more to the US.
>>343910817
>Sunshine had a nice variety of level design
What? One of the biggest flaws is that all of its levels feel so samey. They were also extremely lazy in its gameplay variety since FORTY FUCKING THREE of the game's 120 shines are gotten through red/blue coin hunts as well as constantly reusing bosses like the blooper, Petey and the goo piranha.
>expanded gameplay
Other way around, its gameplay feels shallow and undeveloped compared to 64 since it focuses on the FLUDD gimmick.
>>343905378
>>Resident Evil 3
>Chrono Cross
>Final Fantasy IX
>Metal Gear Solid
In what universe are these good?
>>343910889
>what do you mean people can argue with each other for a while
That's most threads, dude.
Should I buy a Wii U now or wait for the NX and hope it has backwards compatibility?
>>343911596
FF9 and MGS are better than ANY games the N64 had.
>>343911232
>neogaf boogeyman
Typical drone.
>>343911465
>PS1 had plenty of great 2D games that played at high framerates.
So did the SNES and the two or so 2D N64 games.
>Alundra was a better successor to Link to the Past than Ocarina of Time was.
Insert joke about rehashes here.
>>343911596
Uh... in all of them? Chrono Cross is the only questionable one of those four, and only because it gets compared to Chrono Trigger, which was arguably the best jRPG ever made.
>>343911006
The SNES CD was done by Sony you tard.
Analog sticks existed before the N64.
Sony actually showed a wiimote-like controller back in the PS2 era, it was actually Nintendo who copied them.
>Dark Cloud is a copy of OoT
WOW.
>>343911745
Kind of hard to argue with a guy going "WOOOOW oot was fuckign shit 0/10 garbage lel get rekt"
I mean, OK. If that's what you really think. Good luck being laughed at your whole life.
>>343911745
>>343911932
>Black and white picture of a fish.
>>343911192
Cool argument. Who the fuck is going to deny that the PS1 completely outdoes the N64 in its library? It had TEN TIMES THE NUMBER OF GAMES and far more praised ones too.
>>343911745
>cinematic experiences are better than games with good gameplay
Both those games could be played the same way on the SNES or Genesis and don't make use at all of the 3D in them.
>>343911932
resident evil 3 had way too much action to be called a survival horror game and mgs was just mediocre when you compare it to real stealth games.
>>343911596
I played MGS for the first time this year. It's pretty good, mang. RE3 is also alright, just a lesser classic RE.
>>343911932
MGS is a novelty which has like 40 minutes of actual gameplay not counting the VR missions.
RE3 is easily the worst of the classic REs and very blatantly a cheap cash-in while Code Veronica became the real sequel to RE2.
FF9 is good, fuck that guy. Though if you like gameplay then it doesn't hold up against any N64 game.
>>343909253
Cool list of n64 games. But what does that have to do with my list of ps1 games as a response to the claim that ps1 is overrated?
>>343912167
classic RE games aren't even very good either
>>343912040
>Who the fuck is going to deny that the PS1 completely outdoes the N64 in its library?
People who enjoy quality instead of shovelware.
>>343911745
I never mentioned the n64 m8
>>343912303
I like them more than most post-RE4 games but to each their own.
>>343910385
god hand is pretty weeb
>>343908750
Spoken like a true nintentoddler.
>>343912758
The other kind of weeb. The fun kind.
>>343912775
Spoken like someone who lost the argument 50 minutes ago but can't stop posting.
>187 replies
>44 posters
ninteniggers in full damage control, you can't make this shit up. saved >>343905378
The N64 is my favourite console.
It didn't have many games, but a plethora of the games it had are GOAT tier.
I was young back then, so I only got to play like two or three games a year anyway, so it fit my needs optimally.
>E3 2017. Sony's press conference is packed. Media is preparing for a big announcement from Sony relating to the PS4.
>Kaz steps out, waving at the crowd. Thanks them for all coming and being supportive. Speaks of how happy he is to walk on stage at E3 for the first time in many years.
>"I'd like to first talk about how great this industry is. How much we have accomplished. Sony accelerated the consumer electronics industry, an industry which has spawned numerous innovations from both our partners, and our competitors...... We here at Sony have learned throughout the years that relationships in this industry that are destructive don't help anybody as it is today."
>"I'd like to announce one of our first partnerships today is one with Nintendo"
>Sony niggers in the audience boo and hiss
>"I'd like to take you through this." Kaz says, with a crack in his voice.
>"First, Nintendo will port some of their games onto the PS4."
>Sonyniggers howl in approval shouting "NINTENDO LOST, IT'S OVER LOOL"
>"Second, Nintendo will purchase.... 599 million US dollars worth of stocks in Sony, and has agreed not to sell them for at least 3 years.
>Sonyniggers are totally silent, and in complete shock.
>"And third..... as agreed, Sony has decided the dual-shock controller will be retired, and replaced with an updated version of the Nintendo Gamecube controller......."
>Sonyniggers in the audience interrupt Kaz, cry bloody murder. Many shout "NO!"
>"....and will be offered on both the Nintendo Wii U and PS4. We have taken a look at other controllers out there. We believe that the Gamecube controller is a really good controller. And we think it will make a fine default controller."
>Audience becomes almost too loud for Kaz to speak from all the butthurt and anger.
>>343913428
>"I have a special guest today via satellite downlink and if we could get him up on the stage right now.........."
Behind Kaz reveals Reggie Fils-Aime on the big screen.
>Reggie smirks while all the Sony niggers viciously boo him, some laugh at him
>"Good evening..."
>Reggie talks a bunch of pre-written marketing fluff about how great this is for both companies.
>Kaz then goes back on stage.
>"Thank you Reggie. Thank you Iwata. Thank you Nintendo. It's time to get this company back on its feet."
>Kaz exits the stage. Is shaken at what he just did.
>Back at Kaz's hotel room, Satoru Iwata and several Nintendo executives, in full traditional Japanese garb are waiting for him.
>Kaz (In Japanese): "What do you want? I did what you wanted. I held up my end of the bargain, in exchange for the survival of my beloved company. And at what cost? The Playstation was like a son to me, and by taking away its controller, you nearly took away its soul!"
>Iwata: "You've lost Kaz. The console wars between our two companies is over. Please understand, your "son" bankrupted your entire company. You should have never double crossed us back in 1994 by releasing the Playstation. Now, I want to make sure you are committed to our new 'partnership'".
>Iwata eyes the black, wireless Gamecube Controller 2.0 near the TV
>Kaz: "This was not part of our deal! I refuse to abandon what I have created.
>Iwata: "You bring great dishonor to our people, Kazuo. The Dual-Shock controller is an abomination! Adapt or die, Kazuo. The choice is yours.
>Kaz walks into another room and slowly changes his clothing and puts on a traditional Japanese robe.
>"If I must die. I wish to die holding the dual-shock controller in my hands... the way it was intended... a masterpiece of perfection. It is my creation afterall.
>"Very well.
>Iwata eyes one of his executives, whom then takes out a Samuri sword and proceeds to behead Kaz....
>>343904782
why did you literally pick the only console in that generation that actually wasn't a piece of shit and could properly render 3D graphics above gameboy resolution like literally what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>343904782
gameboy dude.
>191 replies
>47 posters
I hate sonyggers.
>>343913553
that copy pasta is stale and iwata is dead.
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>>343911521
Don't forget about Ratchet & Clank and Sly Cooper.
God Hand is kind of a mixed bag though honestly, some people love it and some people hate it. I'd count it as weebshit just due to how niche it is.
I would also add Haunting Ground as a hidden gem, but that's just me.
>>343913789
Just like Sony.
>>343913768
You've come to the right place then.
>>343913789
he wasn't supposed to die so young. sonyniggers probably killed him. fucking japs are savage
>>343913998
>Playstation and Sonic beat Undertale fans
bullshit
>>343913998
Nintendo lost to valve
This poll was obviously not bias.
>>343914126
I see that you can't read.
>>343911006
is field commander any good?
>>343905378
Ps1 was shit compered to the Nintendo 64
>>343914271
>Get voted #1
>RIGGED
Even in victory, the worst fanbase.
>>343911993
>this butthurt
How many times did you cut yourself over egoraptors sequelitis?
>>343914126
That poll was before Undertale's release but after the demo.
>>343913998
DELETE THIS!!!!!!!!!
>>343913998
>every single other fanbase on the list (with the exception of rare fans who understand the golden days are never coming back) is worse
you can't make this shit up
>>343907981
>PSX
>>343914659
Keep digging that hole.
>that kid who did not get a Nintendo 64
>his parents got him a PS1
>Go to his house
>No Smash
>No Mario Kart
>No Goldeneye
>No Mario Party
>>343913998
>>343914659
let's break this shit down
>cow of dookie beating uncharted
>halo beating waifu emblem
>cow of dookie beating halo THAT much
>LeL beating FF THAT little
>Sonic beating DS
>Sonic beating LeL
>Sony beating Blizzard, PC, and XPC
>Bioware beating XPC
>Valve beating Nintendo
If someone showed me this picture only it said "best" at the top instead, I wouldn't even blink.
>>343904782Witness me!
>>343915204
Only an absolute retard would get the original nogaems back in the day.
>>343915264
>newfag who wasn't around when the poll was made
>newfag is coincidentally also a sonygger
wew
>>343905378
This will help me build my ps1 library.
Thanks m8
>>343915407
Comfirmed underaged. There have been many nogaems and none of them was Nintendoexcept the virtua boy
>>343915407
But everybody who owned one had the same games due to the high prices. I'm guessing this is where the nogames meme comes from in the first place.
>>343915407
I know, it was so weird. That kid had some weird kart game with kids and a lot of single player stuff. Boring nights.
Rampage was cool tho.
>>343915464
I don't pay attention to the garbage "polls" that anybody with an iphone can rig
I only read the Kirby one and laughed at the retards who voted SS over SSU because it sounded "different" (better)
>>343915540
he was talking about the ps1 you dope
>>343915773
>RIGGED
You got voted for a reason pal.
>>343907023
>not thinking 9 is the best game ever made
drown yourself you fucking faggot
>>343915913
>LALALALALALA SONYGGER SONYGGER
Like I said, it may as well say best.
Though I suppose it had MYST so it's not quite PS4 levels of nogaymes
>>343915540
>There have been many nogaems and none of them was Nintendo
Man, the N64 launched with 2 games and you had to wait roughly a year for new games to start appearing. Don't fucking tell me it wasn't nogaems back in the day.
>>343916106
>Shadows of the Empire
>Super Mario 64
>Super Mario Kart 64
>OOT by christmas
No idea what you're talking about, SM64 alone kept people going for months. Was the japanese release lackluster or something?
>>343916106
Those early games were quality though, except for Midway's lazy cashgrab ports.
>>343915986
Keep digging that hole
>>343916043
well, it has rayman
>>343907963
playstation has both quantity and quality
>>343916752
It has hidden gems buried beneath huge piles of shit anon, don't kid yourself.
>>343916867
So in other words, quantity and quality?
>>343916986
It does not have a quantity of quality.
>>343915204
N64 had 4players out of the box which was pretty neat
>>343904965
>best multiplats of their respective times and a larger number of decent exclusives each compared to the n64
I'm a huge Nintendo fanboi and even I think you're a dumb nigger.
>>343911546
>What? One of the biggest flaws is that all of its levels feel so samey.
A village, platforms and boats searching for oil close to a city, a beach close to big mountains, a not-so-well-made hotel with casino that's misteriously occupied with ghosts and suddently attacked by a giant manta ray, and another villager that was built around a huge crater with big palmtrees in there don't feel samey. 64 might not be samey, but the level design is predictable and bland, except in cases like Tick Tock Clock and Cave Dungeon.
>They were also extremely lazy in its gameplay variety since FORTY FUCKING THREE of the game's 120 shines are gotten through red/blue coin hunts
While I agree this, 64 wasn't any different, since 30 stars, along some others from secret courses, out of the 120 are only obtainable through red coins and 100 yellow coins.
>as well as constantly reusing bosses like the blooper, Petey and the goo piranha.
The Goo Piranha is not really a boss, but a mini-boss, and was only used 4 or 5 times. If you think about it, Sunshine didn't really fully used his main gimmick, which is the dirt painting.
The giant Blooper was only re-used 2 times, and so was Petey.
Also, did you forgot the giant Wiggler, the red Cataquacks, King Boo, the mecha Bowser, and others?
Also, did you forgot how Bowser were re-used three times on his levels, and how the Big Bully were re-used too in 64?
>Other way around, its gameplay feels shallow and undeveloped compared to 64 since it focuses on the FLUDD gimmick.
No. A bunch of Mario's moves and FLUDD's mechanics could be combined: You can spray, and then slide on it, you can spin in the air while spraying water in all the places, you can use backwards somersault with FLUDD, and others. Also, don't forget the power-ups, where you can either jump high or run fast. FLUDD was not a bad gimmick, but if you really must, you're free to cherrypick and say how FLUDD's float move ruined the whole game, when you can just not use it.
>>343917720
Also, I need someone to post that webm where a guy speedrun the game through a secret level.
Call me when there has been a single game that has better controls and physics than an N64 launch title.
Then we'll talk about which consoles were mediocre.
>>343905378
You're mostly right, but MGS is complete shit
>>343915537
FYI, Wipeout 3 Special Edition is European only. DO NOT get the American version. If you want your library to be American only, go with Wipeout XL. Not as good as 3 Special Edition but it's pretty good.
