I-It's not that bad.
I-It beat 1070 when crossfire.
>200 dollar card suppose to be 400 dollar card
Funny thing is it comes close when dx12/vulkan are involved
Though I guess the aftermarket cards fixing any slight issues the card may have had triggered you nvidia shills and your fire memes
Enjoy that 3gb vram 1060 with that 192-bit memory bus though
>>343897289
memes aside.
Should I get a 970, 1070 or RX480.
Assuming some shit like Dark Souls 3 on max settings as a graphical benchmark.
I don't really get the feel off those numbers of those tests and charts. Any irl experiences with the card's performance would help.
>>343898154
look up benchmarks for games you actually wanna play
otherwise the RX480 is a good call, wait for customs though
1070 is more of a 1440p card, if you just have a 1080p monitor
>>343897927
yea it sure is gonna be hilarious when the 1060 beats the 480 despite the much lower specs
>>343898154
Wait for aftermarket version and benchmarks then you're good to go.
>$200 card is supposed to beat a 1070
you are only playing yourself if you buy a 1070 with a 1080p monitor
>>343898154
Get a 1080
>>343898154
1070 if you have the money, 480 if you're on a budget.
>>343899148
Since it'll be 300+ I'm sure it will edge ahead slightly in dx11 games only to be utter shit at everything else six months later.
>>343899148
>>343899343
can you two fucking fanboys stop sucking your favorite companies cock?
>>343898154
Get a R9 390X
>>343898154
RX480 if money is tight
1070 if not
RX480 will give you "at-or-near" max settings on all games out today at 1080p w/60fps. A few games, like Witcher 3, will put you in the 45fps area if you have EVERYTHING maxed in settings.
1070 will give you solid 60fps in everything at max, even most games that way for 1440p resolution. And it'll probably be maxed 1080p 60fps for the next few years of games since the new consoles won't have a video card this powerful.
>Budget card has to be on par with a high end card
>Refrence cards
>Nvidia purposely invading their customers wallets with this "shortage"
>AMD need partnered cards to bail them out from their power drawing card
Eat shit you fanboys.
>Crossfire or SLI for video games
I got a 380 but it turns out the driver memes are real
Hoping the 1060 is $250 or I'm just going to ignore this year's cards
>>343901108
It's not nVidia causing a shortage, it's the speculators that buy out all stock and sell for 1.5-3x the price. Just look at eBay and you'll see that there are tons of these cards. It would have been foolish for nVidia to purposefully manufacture 2x the cards over demand.
>>343901305
But can you say that Nvidia isn't taking advantage of this?
Only way I see this changing is if they get more cards out gradually until they stop selling out or when AMD shows off their VEGA cards that is their answer for the 1070/1080.
>>343901108
So where do you get your gpu from?
>>343902138
3dfx
>>343901773
>But can you say that Nvidia isn't taking advantage of this?
Yes. They don't get the markup cut from it. The only thing they are taking advantage of is the Founder's cards prices.
Otherwise, this is BAD for them. It's good as long as they sell out, but it really hurts a manufacturer when this sort of behavior occurs. For one, manufacturing is a slow and steady process and it's not a "open the plant, produce the cards, close the plant" type deal. Setting things up, hiring and employing laborers, all of that takes planning and execution. So they are left with these options:
1) Release cards as the shipments become available
2) Manufacture and hold stock until there's the projected demand produced - release hoping you satisfied it properly - and continue production and the bleed in demand.
3) Manufacture and hold stock until there's the projected demand produced PLUS the reseller/flipper/scalper amounts accounted for.
1 is the normal behavior, which we see here.
2 runs the risk of a competitor (AMD) releasing as they produce and eating up the potential buyers that were fence sitters.
3 has the same problem of 2 but only bigger. Only if they did this one would you not be claiming they are 'taking advantage', but it is by far the most risky thing for any manufacturer to do. What if they incorrectly estimate the stock? It could be a massive loss.
It's far more complex than you're thinking.
How big is the 1070? I have an r9 270x and I want to upgrade. The 270x is nearly 10" long and I've probably got 4 inches of room in my case to play with.
>>343903946
I just bought two different brand 1070's, and they are the largest cards I've ever bought. The Gigabyte is 11.5 inches long (.5 of that is the mounting bracket, so 11 inches needed in the case) and the MSI one is about .25 inches smaller.
>>343904642
That's not too bad, at least I'll have the space for them.
>tfw I didn't fall for the 480 meme
>tfw waiting for the 1060
>>343903946
I had to take out a second mortage in order to expand my house in order to fit the card through my door.
Its a bit above average, should fit in any full tower or mid tower ATX cases.
>>343899063
1070 is also a 144hz 1080p card.
>>343906182
>Performance increases when undervolted to be PCIe compliant
>Can unlock 4gb to 8gb vram
>meanwhile Nvidia unlocks 4gb to 3.5gb
Falling for the 480 meme has been the best meme of my life
>>343906431
Here is your (you)
>>343906492
>Nvidiatards in disbelief
>mfw finally buying my build with a 1080 and a 1440p/144hz monitor today
Feels good not being poor.
>>343906572
>being a fanboy of any kind
Kill yourself faggot. I buy what ever is best for my money, if the 1060 turns out to be worse than the 480 then I wont buy it and i'll get a 480 instead.
I doubt the 1060 will be worse than the 480 though.
>>343906182
>not waiting for the 1070 price drop
>>343897289
my gpu is fine for 1080p gaymen. no reason to upgrade till I get a dank may may monitor.
>480
>destroying your mobo
>lying about how many watts it pulls
no thanks. I like my mobo.
>>343897289
>I-It beat 1070 when crossfire.
SURE! LETS BLOW 2 SLOTS OUT AND RUIN THE MOBO FASTER!
>>343906829
fuck you anon. if you don't buy an amd card, you are dumb. nuff said
>>343897289
it's decent enough, but 1060 will murder it.
>>343907351
(you)
>>343907440
DUDE YOU BETTER BUY AMD. DON';T YOU WANT A NEW MOBO TOO?
>>343897289
>crossfire.
When will people stop getting scammed by this? 90 percent of games don't support Crossfire well enough that getting two cards is worth more than getting the card that costs twice as much.
It's Intel versus AMD all over again where fewer, more powerful processors is the CLEAR winner.
>>343897927
>192-bit memory bus
Why is that a bad thing? I have seen mention of this before but no one explains why this is bad.
>>343906625
t. 50k in debt
>>343907563
tfw new mobo+cpu
tfw gts 450
tfw wanna get a RX480 but scared about my new mobo
>>343907816
It's a function of bus width x mem clock. Unless the 1060 has significantly higher mem clocks it will run into problems when applying AA or other bandwidth hungry fullscreen effects, especially as resolution increases.
Practically speaking, it probably won't matter in the slightest. Neither 1060 or 480 cards are likely intended for high(est) resolutions or AA.
>>343908495
Just wait another couple of weeks for aftermarket cards to come out. The power draw issues are an easy fix for vendors, and the biggest problem, cooling, is also an easy fix.
>>343908495
>tfw wanna get a RX480 but scared about my new mobo
I hope you know that anyone claiming it will damage the mobo is most likely troll or a nvidiot repeating bullshit memes like no drivers.
In the past, nvidia hard cards that didn't pass the pci-e specification and nobody made a big deal about it. Also it never damaged any mobos either.
btw, amd released a Wattman app recently so you can undervolt the 480 to the pci-e specifications. Surprisingly enough, it also results in increased frame rates when you undervolt the card.
http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-undervolting-performance_183699
>>343897289
What I find funny is that they promised a RX480 at 4GB for 200$/220€, but the card is utterly impossible to find outside the US/UK and people are starting to report theirs have 8GB physical memory but the bios locks it to 4GB.
The whole Rx480 for 220€ was just marketing BS? Word is AMD partners aren't going to offer 4GB versions of price because the MSRP by AMD is not tenable.
Got a 144hz 1080p monitor
Current stuff is EVGA 970 FTW, 32GB of RAM and i7-5820k
I've got my sights on this EVGA GTX 1080 SC Gaming, mostly for a larger upgrade. I can afford it as birthday is coming up, but is there a wiser investment?
>>343897927
Even though I know this post is bait, it's the most horseshit I've read on here in a while.
First off, the entire fucking point of the 480 was that it was an 8gb $200 card that beat a 980. All the fucking hype behind it was that.
Then the shit comes out and it's like "Woah hey now, we never said that! the $200 card is for 4gb vram and it's supposed to be on par with a 970!"
Not only that but it's fucking power throttled so non reference cards will do shit-all for extra performance, but the card draws more power over the mobo and could fry your components.
This card is a fucking trainwreck, and Nvidia knows it. Hell they could probably do a driver update to push the 1070 further just to make space for the 1060 to be higher than this dumpsterfire.
Power issue source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjAlrGzHAkI
Performance source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Oc7zXhzlzU
Shit on these videos all you want, but provide proof to the contrary and people might take you seriously.
>bu... but a driver could fix it!
Yeah and AMD is so good with that shit...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq47qmwcus8
>>343909009
>mobo is most likely troll or a nvidiot repeating bullshit memes like no drivers.
In the past, nvidia hard cards that didn't pass the pci-e specification and nobody made a big deal about it. Also it never damaged any mobos either.
literally one SKU of the 960 momentarily went over PCIE rating. Yeah, people are aware of the ASUS 960 STRIX nigger, but that shit bumped up then throttled down. The 480 is more consistently pulling more voltage over longer periods of time than that card. Moreover the 960 never pulled as much power to begin with.
Im gonna take this PCIe slot to maximum overdrive!
>>343899271
Perhaps if you're a 60hz poorfag.
>>343909746
This but people are busy shitposting to look at this, even in the U.S a few places sell them at $200 / $225 and guess what? They have mysteriously sold out. Places that have them in stock are selling them at $300
I could buy a 970 or used 980 at that price.
>because the MSRP by AMD is not tenable.
How so?
>>343897289
nVidia is FINISHED
F I N I S H E D
>>343910301
uh /v/ would know the best choice for me right?
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility/
>tfw Kyle was right all along but AMD drones crucified him because they couldn't handle the truth
>>343911430
This is what's so funny to me about people claiming Nvidia sucks when using this game, literally nobody is playing it.
I swear to god, that number of gamers could be entirely accounted for with people using the game as a benchmark.
Where are the benchmarks? I got a 770 and doom is making my card shit the bed, shit dips to 40s on low
>>343906182
>flipagram
tiny kek
>>343911430
holy fuck
>>343901108
>literally all of amds marketing put the 480 on part with a 980 at just $200
>480 comes out and struggles to beat a fucking 970
>B-BUT ITS A BUDGET CARD!!!!!!!!!!
lmao
>>343911582
I'd say wait for the Ti edition to come out in a few months. It'll push you to do one of two things.
buy a 1080 on sale
or have more money to buy a 1080ti
>>343910301
Wait for the 1080 ti. The 970 is fine right now.
And an i7?
32 GB of RAM?
On a 1080 fucking monitor?
>>343911236
you bastard!
>>343910756
Cheap mobos BTFO.
>only people that defend AMD are people where 200 dollars is their maximum yearly budget for GPUs
>literally anyone with an actual income can't even fathom why people are such die hard AMD fans
>>343911995
I'm waiting for the 1080ti as well but my i7 2600k might be a problem.
>>343910301
>that cpu
>with the gpu
>32gb ram as well
oh shit nigger what are you doing
>>343912121
>i7
literally why
Upgrading to the 1080 senpai.
Feels good. £595 well spent
>>343912251
I paid $150 for it. Why not?
>>343911995
60hz shitlord detected
>>343911684
This
Witcher3 in other hand need to be benchmark because
>Players in the last 2 weeks: 17,871
>>343912120
>yearly GPU budget
>>343897927
The Asus Strix RX480 is a full lenght pcb with two 6 pin connector. BuildZoid moded his reference card and overclocked it with watercooling up to 1410Mhz. Now imagine with a bigger pcb with better power room where this thing will go. This reference will disapear from the market.
>>343912425
>>yearly GPU budget
Because AMD fanboys need to update their cards every year. As opposed to say a 780ti that people can still easily use.
>>343910542
>First off, the entire fucking point of the 480 was that it was an 8gb $200 card that beat a 980. All the fucking hype behind it was that.
Not that guy, I agree with you, but there is something that needs to cleared there:
That was all fan speculation, and you are talking about the $225 8Gb model not the $199 model. Speculation, which came from "leaked" benchmarks, lead some people to believe that scenarios in which a fully overclocked RX 480 could match a GTX980 could be entirelly pausible. Without having any other back up but the "leaks" people assumed that a OC RX 480 would sit between the R9 380 and the 980....then internet speculation took over and ludicrous cliams started to flow through the internet, mostly with the help of Ashes of Singularity demonstration. Stating two crossfire cards could beat a GTX 1080 on a DX12 game is the worst kind of cherry picking there is.
In reality, the benefits from a OC RX 480 are nothing but marginal. The actual gain is no where near the speculated levels, so at best it could beat a 970 on a Dx12 game, when OC.
The thing is that no one is selling the damn card at that price, and guess what you can buy a used 970 at $225 already.
womp-womp
>>343912739
>As opposed to say a 780ti that people can still easily use
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jm_eUQSYAk
>>343912778
>fan
shill*
>speculation
lies*
>>343909009
you're an idiot dude. it's a fact that it draws more power than it's supposed to. holy shit the autism on 4chan is funny sometimes. a bit cringe honestly.
>>343910301
>1080p monitor
I found your problem
>>343913080
framerate > resolution
If you guys are waiting for the 1060, don't waste your time, it will Cost 300 and will be just a little better than a 480, it will have 3gigs of ram at at 192-bit. Since it will be the same pascal as the 1070 and 1080 that still suffer using DX12, in the long run this card will become crap. So if you want to save money, get an AIB 480, if you have money to spend, get the 1070, it is the safest spot right now for 1080p 60hz in the long run.
>>343913187
Why not both?
...You're not poor are you?
>>343913187
I have a cool 15CRT that goes 120hz. Shit is dope, bro.
>>343913319
no card can do 1440p 144hz
You seem to know a lot about cards, so I think this is the right place to ask:Have you ever noticed how all the high spec games are fucking garbage like Fallout 4? And Denuvo killed piracy? This is what you you could've bought an NX, a 3DS and 20 games for?
>>343912863
Reee all you fucking want, but buying a quality product once and running it into the ground will always be more cost effective than buying garbage year after year.
And fuck, I bought AMD for my first build in the 6000 series, and that card ran everything. AMD was competitive as fuck back then. What the hell happened?
>>343911676
>Poo in the loo wants to be bought by intel
>Someone at intel thinks this is a splendind idea
Leave it to a hindu to shit on everything.
>>343913503
indians
>>343913535
AMD is crushing the mobile space though, that's where all of their attention has been. And it's an area that has been growing way faster than anything else, it makes sense Intel would be interested.
It won't be long until Nvidia is the only one in the GPU space and SKU's will jump up $200 easily.
I could see the12k series starting at $700 no problem.
>>343911959
They will Ti edition everything, right? Anyway I'd like to upgrade before college. The cards arrive here the 23rd, most likely.
Getting the 970 over the 980/Ti wasn't a big deal for me, despite how disappointed I was with the card.still a huge upgrade from my first PC build with 550ti lmoa
Would be selling the 970 to my little brother, who has a 670. Don't know the model, though.
>>343911995
I can get 144hz on Overwatch very fine, but almost everyone can because of how optimized it is. No, the 970 is pretty bad and I notice hitches all the time. I would really like to blame the 3.5 meme VRAM for that. I just want it gone.
>>343912185
I fell for the 970 meme, I know.
32GB RAM helps with my music production. It's not of my money, it's mostly been birthday gifts. Same thing with the CPU.
>>343913080
Do you have any idea how expensive the higher resolution monitors are?
On top of that, >>343913187 is correct. I would prefer getting my eyes full of silky smooth butter, reacting better than being eagleeyes.
>>343913319
>>343913410
Not poor, but no one's gonna even think about splitting money with me on something that's like a $800 fucking screen. I would prefer TN panels anyway.
I'm only thinking about which card to get "gifted", paying half for it.
Yes yes well done 480, well done 480
however
>>343913503
The Radeon group does not want to sink in with AMD. So their plan is to help AMD to sink faster with poolaris, and hope their division is bought by intel, or apple.
Zen better be good for the sake of AMD.
When do the aftermarket 1070's come out?
>>343914028
Your meme is terrible, and RX480 is doing bad.
Your post is not good at all.
I do not like it.
>>343913861
>They will Ti edition everything, right?
They absolutely will, they're literally just higher binned cards anyway.
Maybe if you can snag a 1080 from a partner manufacturer you could push it up to close to a ti, I dunno.
Don't kid yourself though, a 1080 is not on par with 980's in SLI, but it's still seems pretty decent
>>343914098
I've already forgotten where this meme came from
>>343914242
stop posting here
>poolaris is the next amd fiasco
>Nvidia flat out sucks in DX12
This sucks.
>>343914028
This thing really isn't going to be all that special and will come in at $300.
Nvidia hasn't made a decent x60 since the 400 series. It's a shame, really.
>>343914098
>Zen better be good for the sake of AMD.
>Bulldozer better be good
>Polaris better be good
I hear you man, but the trend has been pretty clear for the past few cycles.
>>343897289
>MFW I have a 1070 and I like watching AMD fags shit on NVIDIA fags and vice versa.
>>343914404
It will be the closest Nvidia will get a to budget card, and will likely be worth the cost for the reliability it will provide.
>Currently on /g/ right now
Well, in this case vRAM actually
>Right now it's only confirmed on the early retail cards, so this might change in the coming weeks - so do not buy an RX 480 with 4GB of RAM absolutely, 100% hoping it has 8GB of RAM as this will change.
>Right now, WCCFTech purchased a retail Radeon RX 480 4GB model and flashed it with the vBIOS for the 8GB model, and 8GB of RAM appeared - a nice, free upgrade, eh?
Here's the source:
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52891/amd-radeon-rx-480-4gb-models-8gb-ram-unlocked-bios-update/index.html
fuuck it just gets better
>>>/g/55426073
>>343911408
Because AMD's pricing is way too agressive on the 4GB version. It should be 10 to 20 euros more expensive to be profitable according to these guys...
hardware.fr/news/14704/radeon-rx-480-4-go-existe-t-elle-vraiment.html
I know... It's a French website, but a very serious one.
Nvidia and AMD fanboys are both equally pathetic
Why do you wear your GPU as a badge of pride?
>>343911676
What if this RX480 just came to life and started dancing?
you know, like "doo doo, i am a rx480, and...you put 95w of PCIe power in me..."
>>343914830
Feels like PC fags have little "console wars"for every part of their computers.
Should I get a 1060 if I have an i5 760?
Is the AMD drivers cpu overhead meme real?
Stay strong AMDbros, Vega will fuck nvidia up like never before
>>343915284
Wait for benchmarks of aftermarket 480 vs 1060.
The 380 was better than 960, so we'll see how the nextgen does.
>>343915530
That image is stupid as fuck, but... kinda hot.
>>343914267
I'd rather avoid SLI. One reason is that I don't want a computer full of shit, got a 3 disk RAID and 2 other hard drives.
Other reasons I can't explain as I'm not that techsavvy on those things, if that didn't explain itself.
Partner manufacturer? Such as? I know shit's probably rigged, but the EVGA guys were streaming and managed to OC one of their cards to 2100MHz. That'll do for me, I'm probably upgrading GPU each 2-3 years or something.
>>343916276
b-bump
>>343911582
what is this fucking anime? It's driving me nuts.
>>343917279
Bump for what? More shitposting?
AMD has open source BSD support, while NVIDIA doesn't.
Why are you still using NVIDIA, /v/?
>>343917663
Since this isn't /a/ I will freely give you source before I get back to watching Death Note, I have literally kept bumping it back for 10 years now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8MIAW2vYhc
>>343917663
Mikakunin de Shinkoukei, it's cute.
>>343917685Yeah.
No, I'd really like to know if that's the card I should get for what I already have, replacing my 970.
>>343917984
thanks so much!
>>343897927
Its is not 200$ but more like 400$ you amdautist
>>343915530
>using AMD causes excruciating pain
Seems correct.
>>343906625
**frowning**
>single gpu
>not 4k monitor
>not poor
My moneis from scamming indians is laughing at u
>>343918053
If you are worried about the room in your case, just get bigger case. I have no problems with my Enthoo Pro
>>343918670
I just don't want SLI okay, I know I probably have no reason to, but is the said card the best non-SLI thing I could get? That's kinda my question
>>343906625
For me it's less about not being poor but I have a threshold I can invest in the hardware before I feel I'm over spending.
Console is barebones package deal shit, but PC's are more a hobbyist thing and I end up pulling back from high end.
By the time the high end drops in price something else comes along. I'm sure the 1060 will come along and I'll still cost on my 750ti until it gets unbearable.
>>343918929
Then just say you dont want SLI.
Get the 1080. That's all.
>>343919167
Forgot to mention that, I guess. Question was aiming to getting a response on what's the best 1080 card for 1080p/144hz with what I currently have, but okay
>>343908068
The fuck is up with you retards putting t. in front of your sentences?
>>343906625
>$800+ dollar upgrade for maybe 3 games that can utilize that power
>>343920192
memes
Some of a tech illiterate, but I've got a year-old Asus with an AMD FX9(tm)-8310 Eight-Core processor with an AMD Radeon R7 240 graphics card.
What would need to be the best hardware to upgrade to that's not terribly expensive, but would allow me to play some of the more graphically demanding games without trouble?
>>343920243
You're not the smartest knife in the kitchen are you?
>1440p/144hz monitor
>>343920594
That's a pretty good CPU, so just upgrade the graphics card to an RX 480
>>343920594
Cpu doesnt really need an upgrade, However you need minimum 8-16GB RAM and atleast get one of the new cards that is out or will be out, either the 1060 or the RX480, stay future proof, you can keep the current motherboard and CPU for maybe 2 years more or 3.
>>343921043
>>343921331
RX 480 then? Alright, sounds good, thanks for the suggestion. And the installed RAM says 8.00GB so I guess that's not a problem.
>>343921851
As with anything let an idiot buy a reference card, wait for AIB's.
>>343921851
I would wait for the 1060 benchmarks/Nitro 480 if I were you.
>>343914804
How desperate are they, they end up creating a hype over 200USD cards that don't exist... How are they even making money on this?
>>343906829
oh but it will be, maybe not now, but in a year or so Nvidia will begin fucking with the drivers and the AMD equivalent will be 20% faster
as is tradition
>>343922075
>idiot
Fuck you.
>CF on par with the 1080 in 1440p games
:-)
>>343906625
Are you me? I recently got tired of the console meme and ordered parts for my rig only I got a 1070 and two 1440/144 hz monitors
>>343922547
Ah, you just couldn't wait ?
>Not waiting 1080Ti
Whats your excuse to be poor?
>>343922942
Didn't even say I bought the suggested one you illiterate tool.
>>343923171
Then why take offense? If you're buying a reference card you're playing tester for a basic card.
>>343919336
So you're asking if this is what you should get?
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6183-KR
>>343923309
I'm asking for possible cards and thanked people for giving a suggestion. You're being a prick because "it's a meme card" or whatnot, fuck off.
>>343923602
Yeah. Either that or the FTW one.
I just want to play FF14 at max in 1080. 1060?
>>343923663
Nah, the meme is the single fan, and basic design, wait a month until the Sapphire Nitro or other variant.
It's not good to go with a single fan design in most circumstances when it can be helped.
I'll wait until the 1060 and variants of the 480 are out before deciding on what I get.
>GTX 1060 3DMark benchmarks leaked
>running at 1700 MHz
>beats the RX 480 that's running at 1288 MHz by 6% (SIX)
>3GB for around $250
NVIDIA
IS
FINISHED
>>343911430
>tfw 723 people doing 480 benchmarks
>>343911783
no fake benchmarks please
>>343924801
Start the graph from 1.5 for extra giggles.
>>343897289
It will probably beat the 1070 in 2 or 3 years after Nvidia gets done gimping it.
t. Kepler owner
>>343912251
>i5
Enjoy your shit DX12 performance, 4 core babby
Got one from sapphire. FPS at least doubled compared to my old 7870. My PSU is OCZ 550w and motherboard is 5 years old cheap Asrock B75. No problems whatsoever.
buying AMD is like buying Hyundai over Honda.
>>343912739
>Because AMD fanboys need to update their cards every year
but AMD cards get far better as time goes on so they don't need to upgrade like when Nvidia castrates older cards, so what are you talking about?
>>343920594
Your CPU is good.
I'm running an FX-8150 with a 1070. 120+ FPS on Doom Ultra settings. So you should be MORE than good.
Get the 480 after market when it comes out.
>>343924439
wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-1060-3dmark-benchmarks-leaked/
>between 10-15% better score than RX480 on 3Dmark without certified drivers
>MSRP rumored to be 250$ for 6GB
Why are you lying on the internet?
>>343926457
>11225 on Fire Strike
>480 got 10890 (source Guru3D)
>10-15%
keep lying on the internet dude
>>343925785
Two different resolutions you dumb illiterate nigger
Nice job at propagating that meme/bullshit
t. Nvidia owner since 2003, I just wait out certain series or skip generations for years and stick to flagship when they're refreshed and ironed out
Again, 120px vertical makes a huge difference. 120 x 1920 = 230400 more pixels to render
Dumb fuck
>>343926457
It is over. AMD is finished. FINISHED!
Also
>120w
>>343926457
It's going to be $300.
The 960 was a turd and sold for $300.
>>343926753
>semantics about numbers WITH A SYNTHETIC BENCHMARK AND NO WHQL DRIVERS
Top AMDrone
>>343923602
>>343923825
Uh yeah hello?
>>343927007
>you dont like nvidia STUPID AMDRONE I KNEW ITS AN AMDRONE
nice argument Rajesh, you got 50 cents deposited to your bank account
keep drinking the nvidia cum, and make sure to buy the 3GB card for $250 when it releases :)
>>343925785
what this grapth shows exactly? that differnt generation card performed better in differnt generation? 680 =/= 770gtx and neither does 7970=/=
Btw 670gtx still destroys 7950 and 7870 which are its competition (7950 was actually much expensive on release)
t.newfag
So GTX 1060 is 8% faster than a rx480 but costs 50% more and cant do sli or Firerays, or advanced Vulkan/Dx12 api features.. so its obsolete before it even has launched.
>>343927276
So no retort except memes
Sorry about your ass
I also still only need my 780ti from early 2014, I do 1080 at 120hz, still waiting for aftermarket coolers and lesser demand for newer cards
>>343927303
He also compared two different resolutions too
He's just a dumb faggot with an agenda
>>343927521
No point in buying this generation anyway, this is pretty much dieshrink generation, real improvements will come next generation. And thats basically when Xbox Scorpio comes out, so thats when games will get bump significally graphically. Right now getting new gfx will be waste, since all its power gonna be wasted on is bumping up textures to ultra which will look barely better in gameplay and putting on all after effects, which makes game look 15% better but cost 50% performance.
>>343927521
>costs 50% more
>Firerays, or advanced Vulkan/Dx12 api
Why are you making things up?
>>343927521
On the bright side it won't fry your motherboard, is more enegy/heat efficient, you can overclock it and benefit from GameWorks as well as PhysX features while getting better performances on DX11 games.
would my I5 4460 bottleneck a 1070?
>>343927521
DX12 is what kills any hype for the 1060 for me.
It doesn't matter with the 1070 or 1080 because they're monster cards regardless of the API but 1060 being a hard DX11 card means it will shit the bed inside of a year or two.
I'm looking for something that'll last me the next 4-5 years like my 7870 has.
>>343927521
Damn it can't do firerays? wtf is the point...
>>343927982
it will. if you are planning to play on 1080 just get gtx1060 or Rx480. If you are planning to play on 1440p get better cpu and 1070gtx
>>343927990
Im going to RX480 from 7870.
Is upgrading from a i5 4440 to a 6600k worth it if I'm only going for a 480?
>>343926790
>running at an inconsequentially lower resolution is enough to virtually eliminate the enormous performance gap between Nvidia's high end and AMD's midrange.
lol ok
You would think the opposite would happen, since AMD's CPU overhead problems tend to show up at lower resolutions.
>>343927303
Not really different generations, they're all rebrands. A 770 is a rebranded 680, a 280x is a rebranded 7970 and a 270x is a rebranded 7870, all with slight overclocks.
>>343928443
No.
>gonna get a 1070 to tide over until spring, when able to get a 1080ti
>will be saving up practical pittance change per month so won't have to worry about a thing once aftermarkets hit
>enjoy 1440p on ultra everything from this point and before at over 100fps
Can we at least take a moment from the shitflinging to agree that this is a great time for newcomers who are building for the first time? Because man, these options are seriously something else, and a good foresight with proper saving means you'll be able to handle going extreme by next year without putting a single bit of financial burden. It's incredible.
>>343927990
there is literally no point in getting 1060 or 480, these cards literally meme status right now. I can play W3 on 1080/60 on Medium/High mix with 3570k and 670gtx. While 1060/480 can max W3, i just dont see them point right now as there are literally no game that have actually high demand (do to the fact console gpus being based on ancient 7850) unless you are planning to game on 1440p or 4k but then your options are pretty much 1070 or 1080. This generation is just money grab by AMD and Nvidia.
>>343927521
>AMD shills face the day Nvidia makes its announcement for the GTX1060 is the same day AMD promised its software fix for the RX480 failure to comply to PCI-E specification which most likely will result in a nerf of its performances
I feel like I should upgrade my 2500k before my GPU. Its OC'd to 4.5 but I'd see more gains in a game like Arma on a newer CPU rather than a newer GPU
>Ultra vs Low still get the same fucking FPS
>the only thing that matters is object render distance
>>343928751
>>enjoy 1440p on ultra everything from this point and before at over 100fps
This is bullshit.
>>343928759
>I can play W3 on 1080/60 on Medium/High mix with 3570k and 670gtx.
No you can't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSCkJH6wzH0&t=0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH3WSqgntEE
>>343929135
i can, you see his cpu?
>>343929135
also it explicity says high settings while i said medium/high...
amdrones literally
>>343929261
What about his CPU? Are you implying bottleneck? His GPU is at 100% all the time.
>>343929050
Now show me on my post where I said I was getting the 1080 and not the 1080ti.
>>343929050
>SSAA
>>343929261
>>343929376
He doesn't get stable 60 even on the lowest settings. And there is no CPU bottleneck, not even on high.
>>343929428
you can alter settings to make it look best with mix of settings, just using standard settings with things like hairworks on is bound to reduce your fps by 20.
>>343928506
Should I upgrade the CPU at all now? Trying to decide if I want to wait for Kaby Lake and Zen or not.
>>343929583
il just run w3 make screenshot and show u...
>>343929810
Literally no reason. You might only gain something in cpu heavy games which almost dont exist. CPU market is stagnating.
>>343911929
The 480 is within spitting distance of a stock 980. Most benchmarks are not using a stock 980, but factory overclocked ones. Same deal with a lot of 970 benchmarks.
Eurogamer benchmarks are a good example. It's generally a 5 FPS gap between the two.
>>343929524
Even if 1080Ti is 20% faster you gain +12FPS (72FPS) over 60FPS on 1080.
>>343927927
200$ for rx480
300$ for 1060
1.5*200$= 300$
That's what he "made up"
>>343929993
Screenshots are useless, you'd need to show a video with a lot of action in it.
>>343930387
I don't see issue with that, honestly.
Maybe I have to drop the settings a little and optimize it. I'm flexible with that. It's not the end of the world. As long as it looks visually stunning and feels stunning, I'm good with it.
>>343930556
>That's what he "made up"
Show me where 1060's are listed to buy for $300.
Protip: you can't.
>>343918502
ok baby dick
>>343928238
>>343930585
ok i was getting 50fps in fight with ghouls at the start of the game. W3 definitely runs much better than in that youtube video.
>>343931139
Yeah, its a gread card. r9 390 cost 25% more at where i live and offers same level of performance.
![XxQQS7Z[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2coFuEC.jpg "XxQQS7Z[1].jpg")
>buying AMD
>ever
>>343931862
>buying reference cards
>ever
>>343932093
This
Only retards buy reference cards.
>>343931862
Its pretty cheap but it does its job. I dont see an issue here. Temps not going higher than 80 when i play for hours.
>>343931862
>he fell for the reference card meme
Honestly, I'd rather get one of those pre-overclocked 1070s but they're about the same price as the goodgoy edition.
What happened to $379 MSRP?
>>343933313
Scalpers.
>>343920594
NVIDIA cards work much better with AMD CPUs than AMD cards because NVIDIA has properly multithreaded DX11 drivers.
>>343933313
They have a production issues. They can only produce very little amount of cards per month. Because of the low supply sellers can price the cards any way they want.
>>343933732
AMD dont have proper drivers because CEO is woman
>>343933732
>Get a 1070
>Max out everything in Rise of the Tomb Raider
>Get like 20 FPS
>Select the DX12 option
>110+ FPS
What the ever loving FUCK. The fuck did they do to their game engine that makes DX11 run so poorly?
>>343934675
Its a broken game. Also its still DX11 but with DX12 label. The engine was just ported. No DX12 improvements were made.
>>343898154
>Dark Souls 3 on max settings as a graphical benchmark
I can do that on my gtx760
>1070 still sold out or above normal prices almost a month later
