>give this a whirl
>it's just Kingdom Hearts, by the controls suck and are unresponsive
This is what everyone is excited for?
The only reason to play that demo is the cute shota.
>>343897298
But there's no older woman in the demo
>>343897060
>latest released demo
>says the controls suck and are unresponsive
It's literally a tech demo with added gameplay. That's it.
No, Taba changed it.
>>343897531
>>343897582
You're telling me that that's now how the game is going to control?
>>343897582
>It's literally a tech demo with added gameplay from the latest build of the main game. That's it.
FTPFYMNYDEHTTM
>>343898286
it will but it will be responsive you also have 4 party members you give commands to and 8 types of wepons and combining magic what you got was the smallest taste of the game in unpolished form there is also guns.
>>343899020
>but it will be responsive
Yeah, we'll see about that.
>>343898775
I hope you're not serious. The latest build of the main game isn't even publicly available yet and the only parts that haven't changed from the demo are the UI and possibly gameplay mechanics, although the combat is at a better state compared to what was in the demo.
>>343899020
Okay as someone who is looking forward to this game, I have to ask that you never post again. You type like a retard and can't even use a comma. I hope you never get to play the game until you graduate middle school.
>>343899324
>the combat is at a better state
[citation needed]
>>343899469
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiqTiE0h4-k
It was fine for what it is.
Just crank up the speed and responsiveness three or four levels.
>Kingsglaive had its premiere
>all those superlative impressions pouring in
All this love is actually kind of disturbing. Pretty much everyone is calling it a 10/10 movie, even those who didn't expect much or hated Advent Children.
>>343897060
Anyone excited for a FF after 13 has to be a brain dead fan boy
>>343900531
13 was great. It separated the true patricians from the plebs
>>343897060
>This is what everyone is excited for?
No, Anon, it's the full game everyone is excited for.
>>343897060
The frame rate is also very bad. I don't know who thought this was acceptable.
>>343899020
Not only does your post read like it was written by a retard, your logic is also lacking.
But sure, I'm going to believe a random post on the internet about how a game is going to play and not the fucking demo the developers chose to give me to showcase how the game is going to play.
You being a fanboy doesn't change reality. It's going to play like ass and there is quite literally no evidence to disprove this.
>>343897298
kill yourself faggot
>>343900451
Wait, this is actually unironically good? Seriously? So after Ratchet and Clank, Angry Birds and Warcraft this is the video game movie that doesn't suck?
Life is funny sometimes.
>>343900620
Its great that it made it easy to tell when someone has shit taste, so I guess that's one good thing about it.
>>343901264
Yeah, so many don't like the game. What losers.
>>343901226
Surprisingly, I haven't seen a single negative impression yet. From /vg/ (Japanese impressions):
>Holy shit. Just... holy shit. Final Fantasy at its best and then it shot into Hollywood. Monsters felt outright alien sometimes.
>Tears. Cried a lot. I think the whole theater was crying at the end. There was outright sobbing around the mid-point, too. Wonder if Noctis realizes what a huge burden he's really inherited.
>I won the tickets, but it was much better than expected. Will go to see again.
>A huge work, really. Kind of unexpected in some aspects, but in a good way.
>Amazing! Having to wait until September to play the game makes me depressed now.
>A beautiful movie, though the action scenes were sometimes so fast they were hard to follow (lol). Wish the heroine's VA was a bit more expressive.
>Fantastic, might go to see it in the theater again. Story felt like a part of a really huge tale. Knew nothing about the setting before watching it and still could follow the movie just fine.
>Luna is a seriously bold and audacious heroine. Not the angry screaming type, but very daring. Final verdict: why isn't it September 30 yet!
>The Versus/XV project might have had a troubled history, but Kingsglaive definitely delivered. Really interested in the story now.
>Putting CGI aside (we all knew it'd look great) I was impressed by the pacing and composition. Even the prologue alone felt like a fully realized tale. The story also doesn't get bogged down in exposition and the balance of silence and motion is superb. My only criticism is that considering how rawly realistic and gruesome the story is, it should have been more bloody. Really recommend watching it before playing the game, because people who know only the demo might get floored by how dark the story really is.
>>343901226
Well to be fair it's only sneak previews and premier screening now, so most of the audience must have been FF fans anyway.
At least it seems it will be a good movie for FF fans, but we will found out whether the general public will like it too when they can access it this weekend.
>>343901870
>Highly recommended, seriously. The previous FF movie felt sappy and soap-opera-ish, but KG is very different. It felt Western. Those who like action and stories more focused on strength of will, zeal, and pride should definitely watch it.
>Simply put, fantastic. The visuals, the music, the impact, everything. Was worried about the VAs, but they did an excellent job.
>Been waiting for this since Versus' announcement and yeah, it delivered. Very emotive and the story reduced me to tears. Nyx is a great character and it really drives home how much hope and desperation rests on Noctis' shoulders. "Everything for the Future King", indeed.
>Way too amazing. Stunningly beautiful world and effects, the sunrise scenes in particular. The OST delivered too: powerful and dynamic, but also beautiful. Spent the whole credits crying. The OST was giving me constant goosebumps, but the peak was probably the party scene, accompanied by haunting Somnus. For people who had been following the project since the Versus days, the whole thing hit like a truck.
>>343901061
At least I'm not buying FFXV :^)
>>343901926
True, but considering how hard it is to please the FF fanbase, it might be legitimately good.
>>343901870
>>343901959
Crazy. Now I hope there'll be a somewhat high quality camera rip with subtitles sometime soon. There's literally no chance that any cinema here in bumfuck rural Germany will show it in August.
>>343901431
Shit-taste and no reading comprehension either.
>crying at a video game movie
Lol
>>343902171
And here's Katsuhiro Harada (Tekken series):
>Those who are planning to buy FFXV - you have to watch it. Those who aren't planning to buy - you will if you watch the movie. It respects the series' predigree, but damn, what a way to handle the baton to the next generation.
>Thinking that SE made it in-house kind of drives me crazy. How long did it take to render every second of the movie? Hours? Dozens of hours?
>Yeah, the bad guys are an annoying geezer and a weird dude. I bloody hate them now, but considering how well they were depicted, mission accomplished. I've already sworn I'm going to absolutely wreck them in the game.
>>343903631
I hope that the movie won't turn out better than the actual game. But I guess even if, we still get a good movie out of it.
>>343901959
>Somnus
Shit, now i know too much
>>343904306
Tabata did say that Somnus is a very important story theme.
>tfw you will never have a car this cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdaPlmFkISQ
>>343897298
fag, he looks like a hapa
I just want to know, will the game havedual audio?
>>343906079
It'll have quadruple audio. Japanese, English, German and French.
ED was great, PD was shit
PD failed mostly because it has one big enemy who doesn't really get effected by your attacks and ED has a decent variety of enemies. PD needed NPC spawners
>>343906063
>implying that doesn't make him even better
Mixed race people are often hot as fuck.
>>343900451
Anime good check' movie good check' will it hit the 3 for 3 /V/?
>>343907161
Yes
>>343907161
Sure seems to be heading that way. Tabata is the producer of Kingsglaive and Nozue (KG's director) is the total visual director of FFXV. They share the same key staff.
>>343897060
But that's wrong, maybe actually learn how to play.
>>343901959
Somnus confirmed to be in the movie. Nice.
>>343901926
>this weekend
What?? I thought I had to wait until August!
In related news.
>>343899020
what the fuck is wrong with people
>>343906886
and he's ten, pedophile
>>343897060
>it's just like kingdom hearts
REEEEEEEEE WHY THE FUCK DO YOU RETARDS KEEP SAYING THIS?
It's totally different besides perhaps the animations.
>>343908630
What's wrong with what he said? Plat demo was literally a tech demo with barebones stripped down early combat thrown in against a single enemy. Kid noctis stuff was made entirely just for the tech demo too.
People who played the E3 demo all confirm that it feels and plays better than both previous demos, it feels more responsive and faster. Heck you can tell just from the videos released during E3 itself.
>>343908641
He's actually 8 there.
>>343908984
You completely misssed the point XV-kun
>>343909119
>XV-kun
Would you fuck off with this shit already?
>>343908984
Altough the response on enemies is good, the targetting system is still utter dogshit. Attacks still dont have a set distance, and you can't aim your attacks away from an enemy because its always locked onto them.
>>343908571
In Japan, anon. We gaijin have to wait.
>>343901870
>>343901959
Yoko Taro also saw a screening of it a few weeks ago and said on his twitter he really liked it.
https://twitter.com/yokotaro/status/746317045633998850
>>343897298
>not the fox
>>343909467
It's apparently grim as hell, so no wonder he liked it. All that delicious suffering.
>>343909291
Lock on is manual or auto. Pressing it does manual lock on. They also confirmed that the ED controls are in which doesn't use auto lockon and you can aim away from enemies.
> Attacks still dont have a set distance
Actually depending on the distance from an enemy Noctis does different swings.
XV won best RPG at E3
http://www.gamecriticsawards.com/winners.html
>>343909415
Oh, right. I think it's weird that they would showcase it first in Japan when they spent probably half of its budget on the English voicecast.
>>343910043
B-but /v/ told me it was a blunder.
I hope the performance issues get fixed in the final release
Holy fuck, the responsiveness, frame-time, and framerate chug so fucking hard - Even GTA on consoles have better controller response than this shit
The PS4 can do so much better
>It's been more days since the Uncovered event then the days left for XV's release
Hold me /v/
>>343910368
According to DF all those things have been fixed as of the latest build that they played at E3.
>>343910368
The E3 build is constant 30fps with only a little drop at the blizzard QTE
>>343897298
This. I hope we have shota segments in the full game too.
>>343899402
>>343900996
>>343908630
>>343897531
Jesus Christ you people are straight up dickwad cunts. Wish I could fuck you pessimistic nerds up. Demo isn't that unresponsive and the real game played great last reveal. It's literally a tech demo, but what do I care what you fuck spawns say, don't fucking buy it lmao. Pieces of fucking shit.
>>343910435
>>343911119
>>343910043
What the hell did it have to compete with? Skyrim: We Pissed on the Camera Lense Edition?
>>343910043
There were others?
>>343911894
Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Persona 5, South Park Fractured But Whole and Tyranny
>>343912125
>Deus Ex Mankind Divided
Probably a good game, maybe even a great one, but an RPG only in the loosest sense possible.
>Persona 5
Don't know anything about but doesn't exactly seem to be the kind of game that has a lot of mass appeal.
>South Park Fractured But Whole
Stick of Truth was funny and the closest thing we've had to a decent Paper Mario game in a long time but not really "best RPG on E3" material.
>Tyranny
Also niche as hell.
FF XV is really the only big, Triple A RPG on the show, the competetion was pretty weak.
>>343912563
>>Persona 5
>Don't know anything about but doesn't exactly seem to be the kind of game that has a lot of mass appeal.
You'd be surprised, Persona's been well known ever since P3 and 5's trailer with most views is on par with XV's trailer with most views
>>343912085
Best RPG
- Deus Ex: Mankind Divided (Eidos Montreal/Square Enix)
- Final Fantasy XV (Square Enix)
- South Park: The Fractured But Whole (Ubisoft SF/Ubisoft)
- Tyrrany (Obsidian/Paradox)
- Persona 5 (Atlus)
>>343912962
The P5 trailer was featured on youtube front page, look at the comments it's majority people saying "the fuck is this anime shit and why is it on the front page"
OP did not play Episode Duscae, far, far better than that piece of shit.
>>343913332
Actually the combat in PD was better than EDs was, the problem with PD was that it left out knightsguard, knightsshield, you only fought against 1 enemy and you didn't have your party members. But the base combat was improved.
>>343897060
It's not even that controls feel unresponsive, it's the shitty framerate and the fact that Iron Giant doesn't respond to your attacks that mae the PD feel really bad
Duscae 2.0 was far more enjoyable even though it had its own share of problems
>>343901226
Angry Birds movie was good you racist
>>343912563
Mind you, this is the first time a Japanese RPG ever won this global award. In the previous years the journos were willing to do anything to avoid awarding JRPGs.
>>343899020
People who played the e3 demo confirmed the combat being faster/more responsive than PD too.
>>343898286
Actually they confirmed that there are multiple control schemes ranging from duscae to platinum demo to a time stop and pick your moves mode too
>>343910043
XV backing the fuck outta the hate brigade it seems
>>343901870
>>343901959
Goddamn it
Now I'm getting hyped about it too
Still 2 months of waiting, dafaq
>>343915040
87 days, more like 3 months
Fuck
>>343915040
If you live in NA they are showing it in select theaters next month. I think it's also being shown in Malaysia. No word on EU or AU yet.
>>343913515
>>343913842
The fucking Armiger tho. Idk why the ruined it after Duscae, it feels so unplayable in PD.
>>343915350
PDs one wasn't even the full version, it was definitely mocked up. We even saw Noctis using Knightsguard in the ATR the other day
>>343915350
It was really bad in Duscae too
I still hope it will act as when they showed it after 2014 TGS
>>343910760
>>343897298
MODS MODS MODS
>>343910760
>dick sucking lips
>a little boy
>>343915531
I'll take the duscae version over the shitty PD any day.
>>343915472
Better be. Though given that Tabata apparently was revealed to have done the E3 2013 battle trailer, it makes me wonder why the team are holding back this hard. Armiger looked perfect there.
>>343915141
>tfw 10 million EU country
Oh well, will watch it on September 30, when I get my Deluxe Edition.
There is going to be some FFXV showing on Jap TV tomorrow.
>>343913515
Do you know if they confirmed monster parkour and magitek hijacks still in the game? Any ledge grabbing too?
>>343920534
>magitek hijacks
That video about the stealth segment in the Niflheim based showed them hijacking a turret. Not sure if you'll be able to get in an actual mech.
>>343897060
I just hope they changed the magic casting. I hate this stupid idea of throwing balls.
Beyond that, it was boring.
The original demo, however, I adore.
>>343899791
Did they do anything else at E3. I was, hilariously, in Japan when this was happening and didn't see any of it and now I'm just too lazy to look into it myself.
>>343920743
The mechs we've seen so far didn't look pilotable. They're designed to work like drones, without a pilot.
>>343921028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn0fPHWfHw8
>>343920815
The ring magic most likely works differently. The balls are there so your muggle party could use it too, not to mention Noctis can actually upgrade and synthetise new spells this way. The ring magic is his alone.
I had the same problem.
Controls were delayed, felt like everything you do was 3 seconds after you pushed it. and theres only an attack and defend button for combat that you can hold down
>>343921286
You're a good friend. Thanks!
>>343901870
>>343901959
Dat soundtrack.
https://youtu.be/ci3PEELpZYw
https://youtu.be/3-fQCp56Lv8
>>343920159
I need to find where to live stream it...
>>343920159
isn't it tonight?
>>343921838
Did Yoko Shimomura do the music for the movie as well?
>>343922053
It's a collaboration between her, John Graham, and some Western music arranger.
>>343922053
Some dude named John R. Graham
>>343921894
Right, I confused it with some other TV showing they're having tomorrow.
>>343922936
>>343921894
>>343897060
>its just Kingdom Hearts
Fuck you. That's an insult to Kingdom Hearts. The combat was WAY simpler than KH combat.
>can just hold a button and let your character attack for you
>you cannot lose in the demo or actually die
>when in a group of enemies, they don't all try to attack you. Normally its just one at a time
>jumps are extremely weighted and don't lift you much into the air, effectively killing any chance for proper aerial combos
>>343916542
>>343916307
>>343912762
>>343908641
Shotacon and pedophilia are not the same thing
>>343897060
Is that a fennec?
>>343923831
>jumps are extremely weighted and don't lift you much into the air, effectively killing any chance for proper aerial combos
>>343924395
Carbuncle, a traditional FF summon. Obviously inspired by the fennec in this iteration.
>>343924416
i played this part and my fighting did not look that cool at all
>>343924718
It won't look cool if you just hold the button
>>343901959
God damn I hope it's still in theatres when I'm in Tokyo, my Japanese sucks but I'd still go see it in a heartbeat.
>>343925038
I grabbed a fist full of the advertising flyers they had out in the theaters when I was there. I was sad about how little promo merch I could actually purchase while in Tokyo.
Go check out the Square Enix cafe in Shinjuku while there, Artnia, they might have something special for the same release?
>>343924079
I don't know, in this case he does actually kinda look like a real little boy.
>>343925414
Yeah I'm planning on visiting Artnia, I'm a massive VIIfag and I really want the exclusive Nibelheim shirt they sell there. They did VII-themed cocktails shortly after Remake was announced, hopefully they'll do something similar for Kingsglaive or XV in general.
I've heard it's a little bit underwhelming compared to places like Capcom Bar or the Gundam Cafe, though.
>>343925775
I didn't even see shirts when I was there?!
They did have tasty parfaits with a FFVII theme though.
>>343925775
Oh, and the Square offices are, of course, there, but they kindly shoo you outside to go to the cafe instead. I wanted to get a big fag and take photos of myself in front of the office but they had lots of no taking photos signs.So I took the in front of the main sign outside
Why didn't they just update and release the Duscae demo to the public instead of this garbage
>>343926250
Apparently updating and patching a demo involves a lot of hoops and money or something. I vaguely remember them commenting how they weren't even sure if they'd be able to patch the original demo.
Also, press conference means more people talking about it, even if just in passing.
>>343926139
I'm really bummed that they don't have the statue of Sephiroth on display anymore, that thing looked crazy cool.I think me and my buddies will all want a photo next to the SE sign.
>>343926250
To make tie-ins with the anime
>>343926503
Holy twat, that is cool.
The little display room they had was nice, but it didn't wow me so much that I even took any photos. I was convinced I was going to go back at some point on my trip (I was there for almost 2 months) but I never did and I regret it so much.
>>343926503
>>343926503
So, are you going to be in Japan for the game's release or just before/after?I need to live vicariously through you. They barely had any merch at all to buy when I was there just last month and it's all I really wanted
>>343927062
Nah nowhere near it, end of this month. I would imagine the hype machine will be ramping up around then, though. No idea about merch, I don't think the Play Arts are out til like October or something.
>>343923831
Git gud Nomurafag.
Onky time where KH isn't a mindless button masher are the secret bosses in critical, to which the mode itself is still easy as fuck to plow through unless you have Zero EXP equipped.
>>343927293
I hope they do something. While I was still wildly happy with being on the same ground as my heroes have walked upon, I just wish there was more?Oddly, finding any FF merch in Japan/Tokyo was hard. It's all Tales of stuff
>>343897298
Kill yourself pedo slime
>>343921489
Finally watched that video from E3 and I'm much more happy with what they've done with the magic.
My hype levels are back up.
>>343921489
Am i the only one who thinks ring magic will look like E3 2013's magic?
>>343928938
Hard to say. We've seen a special ring icon and some mysterious violet magic attribute in the menu, plus Kingsglaive apparently shows some of the magic abilities it grants (different kind of warp, barriers, magic casting).
>>343929601
>On the upper right there's a "?" where the purple icon should be
What the FUCK is that thing
I'm shocked that one shitposter anon hasn't raided this thread yet, feels somewhat decent now compared to yesterday. Disturbingly so.
>>343929601
>No katana slot
Fuck...
>>343929969
Its placement in the menu would suggest that it could be some kind of magic, but they've not mentioned any types other than Fire/Ice/Lightning and Ring magic. Intriguing.
>>343930298
Katanas could be in the light sword/great sword category. We know Noctis can use them; Masamune is even one of the preorder DLC weapons.
>>343930298
The Masamune had a greatsword moveset in the DLC showcase thing they did at the last ATR, so it's possible they're just classed under greatswords.
>>343930330
Tabata straight up said that elemental magics would only have Fire, Ice and Thunder
Lying bastard
They'll probably show thunder during gamescon, wonder if they'll show whatever that thing is on TGS
>>343930587
Masamune's moveset is identical to a great sword, the question raised is what's the deal with that teleport frenzy katana move we saw in the development video, maybe it's an ability or something
>>343930330
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that it might be some sort of transformation magic. The Platinum Demo hat you turn into a variety of animals and there was some footage of the developers playing as a dog and a cat. Might be a feature in the game.
>>343930846
I'd guess it'll probably be a weapon-specific ability, kinda like what the Airstep Sword has.
>>343930330
Its also interesting how healing works in this game. It's not a separate magic category, but something that comes from Noctis himself. He can transform items and even spells to make them heal.
>>343931018
That's probably off the mark, it has a offense and defense icon so whatever it is enemies will also have that attribute/be able to throw it at you
Someone educate me on this
https://youtu.be/xxeCgMr0rmw
At the 7:14 minute mark Noctis is shown air warp dodging before attacking, did they change the air dodge controls or something?
>>343931018
It could be a placeholder image for something they've yet to decide on for all we know. Or a help menu for when you don't know what the ell you're doing/it suggests combos
>>343897060
It's a Nomura game, what'd you expect? This is why I have no faith in FF7:R's chances of being good, I just know better. No amount of marketing agency damage control will make me change what I KNOW FOR A FACT is going to be a literal disaster.
>>343931547
>It's a Nomura game
Anon...
>>343920534
>ledge grabbing
Why is this important again?
>>343931547
I wish it was a nomura game, but I think you've made a mistake....
>>343931324
There are skill trees and whatnot, so some skills and combinations are most likely unlockable.
>>343931791
I said the same fucking thing yesterday, just ramapant autosm going around.
>>343931324
he is not air dodging.
His target is high up so he automaticaly teleports to it when you press the attack button.
>>343932006
You think that could signal expanded combos? Because i sure as hell would get bored of what we already have if the standard crush/ravage combos remain the same throughout the full game.
>>343932521
Don't know about your regular combos, but Game Informer talked about getting more weapon abilities like Tempest
>>343923204
6 am here in NY. lol gonna go to sleep.
>>343930330
Summons?
>>343932887
Summons are not equipable, their summoning are context sensitive
>>343932006
Hopefully we can upgrade the jumping or at least have double jump because the current one feels like being stuck with iron boots and shit.
>>343932963
fuck this
>>343932963
>>343933075
To be more precise, Noctis is always connected to them (after he subdues them), so he can't really "equip" his summons. They're not objects, they are living entities.
>>343931484
If it were a help menu or some kind of other misc. tertiary feature it would be the last one on the right. It's sitting comfortably in between the two known types of magic so it's either a new element or a third type of magic.
The icon is purple -- nighttime is apparently a prevalent motif -- dark/night magic? Maybe?
>>343933463
But can i summon Ramuh whenever i want out in the field? Or is it a close death summon like in the demo?
>>343933601
I'm getting pretty convinced that it's Poison, the icon doesn't look like the poison icon from ED but it does look like the poison effect over your head, plus it makes sense to have a poison resistence icon, just like the other magics can also hurt you
>>343933463
>>343933889
I wonder if the sheer size of some summons means that if you're inside a building fighting baddies that you can't call on them? Or restricted some stuff that is more human sized?
>>343934205
Tabata did say that if you summon inside a cave the attack will be different, just didn't say how different
>>343932313
Warn me when noctis can jump 3 story high and run at 70 mph, so a head high ledge isn't a wall
>>343934358
>Titan gets stuck in tiny ass space
>Ramuh's beard is suddenly full of imps
>>343934069
What about the other ailments? Where's the paralysis resist icon?
>>343934550
You mean the thing Prompto does in Episode Duscae?
>>343934949
I assumed the classic paralyze status effect would be back in as well. It's been in all but a few FF games.
>>343935174
Well, it makes sense to have resistance against poison since it's a damaging ailment (and you can even boost your resistance with food in episode duscae) but i don't think stuff like Blind, Oil and Petrify would work the same way
I mean, Toad is confirmed to be in the game but it's not like we can have resistence against Toad
>>343935448
>(and you can even boost your resistance with food in episode duscae)
Shit, allow me to correct myself
The food straight up makes you immune against poison
>>343931547
>It's a Nomura game
>I just know better
Sounds like you don't even know how to tie your own shoes mate
>>343911035
Calm down, brother. You're being a faggot right now, and I can forgive that. What I can't forgive is how salty you're being right now. It's like you're covered in cum and then someone added sea salt, just to make you a tad bit saltier. You're defending a demo. A fucking demo. Who gives a shit? Calm down.
Anyone else think XV has indirect connections to VII?
>>343936419
Looks more like VIII to me, even the way you get summons and shit
>>343936419
No.
>>343934519
>>343934358
I laughed when Tabata was answering that question about where does the party go when Ramuh does his attack.
>He picks them up too but the game doesn't show it because frankly, it'd look lame. "Here's two..., oh yeah, there's the third.... alright, finally found the fourth.
Kingsglaive spoilers when?
>>343900451
Oh nice this is actually good? I was just going to advent children it and turn my brain off for the visuals and camp. Im not one of those ac haters its just clearly intended to be fun over substance, i was worried this would be the oppossite but fail at being of substance and then lack the flair
>>343936497
>>343936419
People have spotted in-game references and similarities to VI, VII, VIII, XII, and XIII, plus many classic early FF monsters.
>>343936497
I want to optimistic but with the similarities i'm hearing with VIII and XV in terms of obtaining magic, i'm having little faith.
Hated drawing in VIII.
>>343937213
>pokeball magic
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
>>343936809
http://pastebin.com/HQQ0Ksex
Also see >>343901870 and >>343901959 for Nip impressions.
>>343936808
hahaha, that is actually pretty amusing.
>not using this as an opportunity for a mini game of Scoop Up The Buddies Before Shit Blows
>>343937031
Doing what they can to appease the old fans.
I'm fine with that, I'm looking forward to the radio being pure nostalgia, but I doubt there's any concrete ties between worlds/lore or what have you.
>>343937213
I didn't mind the draw system. If I can siphon stuff out of my enemies and prevent them from attacking, that might be okay. Also, hidden draw points might be cool depending on what it does.
>>343938010
Until Gilgamesh shows up and kicks your butt with excalipoor
>>343938156
I hope he's included. And I hope the battle to win him over is over the top ridiculous.
>>343938351
Well he's not. Too bad.
>>343938669I can always hope for that free DLC
>>343938818
>implying that wasn't just damage contorl
>>343937302
Do you want magic to be broken as fuck otherwise?
>>343938010
Yeah, it's confirmed to be a standalone game. It's not directly related to any FF, though its style and design philosophy obviously resemble some FFs more than others.
>>343897060
>>it's just Kingdom Hearts
It's not even as good as Kingdom Hearts, because Kingdom Hearts combat is at least decent, and the FFX combat is terrible
>>343937302
Well it was either that or:
1:Magic is spammable and does shit damage for how flashy it is
2:Magic costs a fuck ton of MP and is an insta kill on most small mobs, leading to the player just finishing all small encounters by rounding up the enemies and nuking them, while the player never uses magic during boss fights because of how important MP is to defense.
Having magic be consumable, but still very strong was a good idea, the problem will be in the implementation. If there aren't enough magic gathering spots on the map it'll be a disaster.
>>343939804
FFXV combat I meant. It's like 4chan likes to delete letters I know I've typed some times
>>343924416
I love how all of these webms of aerial combat are just a few seconds long and always end when the MP bar depletes. Whoa, a few seconds of flying around like a dipshit before you end up hanging from a light pole for several minutes.
>>343937427Nyx uses the Ring of Kings to battle Glauca; the Power of Kings lasts only until dawn
So when Noct gets the ring of Lucii, we get to use it for a short amount of time and that's why he's not wearing it in pic related?
>>343940842
Honestly I think the best way to deal with iron giant is to perfect block him and smash him with the greatsword, then repeat.
All that flipping shit does shit damage and wastes MP.
People should post less flipshittery and more perfect blocking
>>343908604
Alright, this is what gets me about this whole movie shit and the marketing for everything.
It just seems like they're throwing in so much more effort into the movie than they are the game at this point. It makes me worried that they didn't put this much effort into the game, especially since they completely cut the entire opening sequence and turned it into a movie with a new protag. It's like they are literally sacrificing the quality of the game so they can appeal to as many people as possible.
I also find it hilarious that Tabata's excuse for cutting up the game was that he wanted the story to be contained in the game and then he turns around and pulls shit out so he can rework it into his very own project and sell it as a movie or whatever else.
I just feel like Tabata doesn't give a fuck about the characters and the story of the game because it wasn't his project originally. He just seems like he wants to sell as much as possible and move the fuck on to a project of his own.
That's why I get suspicious when I keep seeing shit like this cover. I get Nyx is the protag for the movie, but should they really be marketing him so heavily? It's like they're putting him on the same level of importance as the actual main character if not more. Before all this, the marketing was more heavily on just Noctis alone sometimes. Now, you only see him with the bros or Luna or his dad. Yet Nyx gets his own spotlight cover.
I already see retarded comments like "hurr they should've made the game about the movie characters instead". It's whatever if those are simply opinions, but at this point I can't help but think the marketing, or lack thereof, for the main game and characters has something to do with it.
In short, from what I've seen, it seems like Tabata has much more passion for the movie (his own project pretty much) than he does for the game, (a project he seems like he just wants to sell and then get over with)
>>343940842
Warping costs 30 MP and he warped a lot, you don't need to use warp anytime to stay in the air
Even then you still have the option of warping with Fire equiped since it only costs 10 MP
>>343939804
Did yiu even look or read impression based on the e3 footages? The conbat is now much improved from PD.
Only decent KH combat was 1.
>>343941230
Way to be astonomically off the mark anon
>>343941183
Who knows. Normally the king wears it until he dies or presumablyloses the favor of his ancestors. If Noctis decided to demolish that "Celestial Law" or whatever, chances are that his ancestors would try to deny him the power.One FFXV PR mentioned "find the courage to right historical wrongs", implying that Lucis has seriously messed up somewhere.
>>343942841
>"find the courage to right historical wrongs"
Oh fuck, it's so simple.
Lucis used slave labor to build its empire, now Noctis has to get Luna BLACKED as reparations. The evil nazi empire of Nibelheim doesn't want this to happen because they don't want Luna's Aryan pussy to get BLACKED, so they try to destroy Noctis and pals.
So.Fucking.Deep.
>>343942653
movie reviews
>10/10
>so western so deep!
>even from only seeing the first few minutes I was hooked!
game cutscenes
>dialogue is odd
>story pacing is already looking weird
>they went from having a badass hype-inducing intro to the game where you fight your way out of the city to some boring car driving sequence and to top it all off the super dramatic moment of you finding out Insomnia was even attacked was from reading it from a fucking newspaper article.
Thanks Tabata.
>>343943573
It was Niflheim's idea to marry Luna to Noctis. The marriage was a ruse, but still.
>>343943887
>It was Niflheim's idea to marry Luna to Noctis
Yeah, they were trying to lure Noctis in so they could kill him, now Luna's getting BLACKED.
>>343943751
That badass intro was just a concept; it was never actually made. Tabata mentioned that they could have done it, but making the huge-scale invasion people wanted would have added a year or more to development. Considering the Versus fiasco, the phrase "longer development" was obviously the last thing SE higher ups wanted to hear.
>>343943751
>>343944547
So we're getting an inferior game, how sad.
>>343944547
That's exactly my point. They don't want the game to be good, they want to hurry up and put it out there and sell as many copies as possible.
You can argue all you want whether that's right or wrong, the fact of the matter is, they've pretty much admitted to skimping on the quality of the game and it shows so far.
You can say "I'd rather have the game earlier than wait" but don't try to sit there and pretend the game's quality is what it should be time restraints or no.
>>343944547
>Tabata walks into a boardroom filled with men with their chairs turned around facing the wall.
>"Herro, we need one more year for finaru fantasy ecks vee"
>"No"
That's how we got XV in its current state
>>343945060
Every game has ideas left on the cutting room floor that might've increased overall quality. It is sad but obviously that's what happens when you commercialize any artistic medium.
>>343945557
Well every game doesn't show it off for more than half a decade only to say "lol we removed it please understand"
>>343945557
>cutting room floor
I love how you people keep saying this like the intro sequence was literally just an idea Nomura had and didn't do anything with. It was in pretty much every trailer since the first and there was even gameplay trailers of it up until XV and even then I think.
It wasn't just a simple "concept". It was clearly intended to be in the final project before Tabata took over and started reworking everything. I honestly can't see how people can legitimately sit there and pretend it's the same when they literally completely got rid of the heroine of the game and replaced her. and don't try to say she was just reskinned, Tabata went into detail about how by the end they had changed Stella so much she was unrecognizable and that's where they decided to make a whole new character.
>>343931547
lets not talk about FF7 remake yet
my hate boner can only grow so much
>>343945060
>>343943751
>stealth-shitposting this hard
Does it ravage your asshole that badly to see anything XV-related gain praise and award?
>>343946872
There's a person dedicated to defending all things FFXV, and a person dedicated to shitting on it.
It's simply the way things are on /v/
>>343946872
>wanting what you were initially promised for years instead of a half-assed reworked game is shitposting
lel
I don't get you XV fanboys. You can like the game, but don't get assblasted when the people who have been following since it was Versus point out obvious changes and downgrades.
Maybe you don't give a fuck about the story and characters, whatever. Just don't pretend you do by trying to say it's superior now in every way.
>>343943751
>they went from having a badass hype-inducing intro to the game where you fight your way out of the city to some boring car driving sequence and to top it all off the super dramatic moment of you finding out Insomnia was even attacked was from reading it from a fucking newspaper article.
Why to miss the entire point of the current fucking intro anon.
And lets say you're very much full of shit and XV game proper gets positive/critical acclaim reviews, especially story-wise. Then what?
>>343947123
and the fact that you dismiss every legit post you don't like as "xv-kun" or "anti xv-kun" is why we can't have any discussion. If you fuckers would have just ignored them we'd actually be able to have threads. Now, not only do you not ignore them, you rely on them by dismissing arguments you don't like as them so you don't actually discuss anything. You are the definition of cancer along with them.
>>343947634
Where do you think you are?
>>343947123
True.
>>343947258
>XV fanboys
>Muh Versus/downgrades
You're literally the reason XV threads are rarely ever good.
>>343946295
You do know nearly finished content sometimes just doesn't "work" in the final product right? Sad truth, especially prone for games with prolonged dev cycles.
>>343947123
>>343947634
Legit question, who is anti-XV kun btw? Didn't know there was another faggot shitting up this joint to oblivion.
>>343945267
>>343945060
By that logic every game is inferior and the devs are "skimping on the quality". Why wasn't Midgar more explorable in FFVII? Why didn't we get a real Zanarkand tour in FFX? Why did most towns in FFIX have to explode, leaving them permanently inaccessible? And the list would be endless. Many things "could" be done, at least in theory, but it doesn't mean they would be worth the time and money invested.
>>343948032
I feel i'm the only one who's honestly no longer impressed with the original intro, besides the car scene the combat footage outside of having a controllable party looks sluggish and clunky as fuck compared to what we have now.
Only magic and the dark tone looked better, and even then its already confirmed XV is still tragic-ridden later on so not much of a loss for me desu.
>>343948035
The lore is that FFXV-kun defends the game from his rival Kagari, also there's some Pesmergo or something who also battles the valiant and delusional FFXV-kun.
These threads have a deeper story with more developed characters than the game.
>>343897060
Maybe people think you can yiff the fox.
>>343947442
That depends. If it sells really well, it's going to get acclaim regardless from big name reviewers.
If the story/characterization is good, regardless of my personal preference, I'll atleast be able to admit that much.
The difference between me and you is that I'm open to possibilities of being wrong, I actually hope for it. but I do have concerns based off clear information that has been given so far, and if I didn't voice those concerns, I'd simply be a blind fanboy or shill.
Blind fanboys have been insisting the game will be good even though it's not even out yet pretty frequently here. That's also why they're no discussion. It would just be a thread full of "can't wait for game so hype" repeated ten times over. but anytime anyone voices a tiny concern it's dismissed as bait for xv-kun and then the thread devolves into shit as soon as he's summoned.
It's like you guys don't even WANT to discuss anything, but /v/ has been like this for awhile so I'm probably just wasting my time.
>>343946295
Versus never got past 25% completion, we know it from the devs who actually worked on it. There was no "final project" because the game never got past the very early stages. Look up what the early FFVII and X plans looked like; they ended up as completely different games, including the basic setting. The fact that Versus and XV are still unmistakably the same game with almost identical cast is a small miracle.
>>343948238
Stop comparing it to other games development process when it's clearly a special case. You're being conveniently dismissive for your own purposes.
Other games didn't have one director who created every base thing for fucking years than suddenly switch directors who obviously is just doing his own shit and making bank off of someone else's concept at this point.
It's completely different and you know it.
>>343930298
The katana we saw before is a phantom sword
>>343948346
Nah, I'm in the same boat. Versus mockup footage looked cool when I was 16, but I wouldn't want to play it today. And that dark tone was a misdirection anyway. Remember the early Altissia footage or Nomura admitting that Noctis was basically nothing like the trailer showed him?
>>343943751
Good job ignoring chapter 0 retard.
>>343950334
prove to me le chapter 0 exists and I'll stop shitposting for good.
>>343949461
And you are being factually wrong, for starters. Nomura and Tabata were co-directors for years, basically rebuilding the whole game from the ground up. They had created several games together even before that. There was no sudden director switch; Tabata had been the key dev since XV started taking shape.
The whole situation isn't even that unusual. Chrono Trigger for example had three directors in total, because the original plans just didn't work out.
>>343946295
All those changes happened by Nomura before Tabata took over idiot.
>>343950334
chapter 0
>bye dad
>have a safe trip son
Wew, so exciting. Totally on par with an airship crashing into the fucking building you're in and having to fight your way out of your own city all the while not knowing what the actual fuck is going on. but no, your dad embarrasing you infront of your friends is much more of an adrenaline rush.
>>343949762
Even rewatching it ti'll this day almost nothing about it looked or implied KH combate everyone expected on the spot outside of the UI, which looked pasted on either way.
>Remember the early Altissia footage or Nomura admitting that Noctis was basically nothing like the trailer showed him?
Really? Sauce, i can't in my head remember seeing Altissia in any Versus footage. Though its been a while.
>>343949461
First of all the only trailer that ever showed the invasion during versus was the 2011 one, the 2006-2010 showed contextless scenes that don't resemble anything we saw in 2011 invasion, only thing from before 2011 with resemblance was the party scene, and that scene was repurposed into kingsglaive.
>>343950751
>Nomura did the changes
I knew once XV-kun started shilling this in every thread you faggots would latch onto it as if it were fact.
Tabata straight up said part of the reason they created Luna was because the team was uncomfortable making so many changes to "someone else's" character (Stella). If Luna were Nomura's character, why would he say that?
