Is GTA 4 best GTA?
Pros
>Story
>Setting
>Missions
>Rest of the characters
>Radio stations
Cons
>Clunky driving
>Hanging out with friends
>>343893480
>its the weekly 'gta 4 is better than gta 5' bait thread
>Cons
>Clunky driving
Spotted the retard. GTA4 driving was the best.
I honestly really like the story of GTA5 more and I think I'm alone in this. It seemed like a light hearted comedy and any dark moments were just turned into a dark comedy instead of this awkward shift to total drama GTA4 sometimes had. I also appreciated that it had no need to bring in any mafia stuff. I like that stuff usually, but it got really old having to be involved in every single GTA.
>>343893480
>>Clunky driving
get gud
>>343893480
>clunky driving
it has the best driving of any gta game you piece of shit
>>343893624
>>343893757
>No mafia
>but cartel and triads
rofl
>>343893480
>Clunky driving
What?
Adding to the pros
>more enjoyable physics
It was more fun
>people actually making serious replies to the most obvious bait thread of all time
it truly is summer
>>343893480
the story takes a long time to start getting interesting. the last few Elizabeta missions where you help Packie, that's where it picks up, but that's also like 10 hours into the game. it does have an incredibly accurate setting, i'll give it that. but it's also depressing.
>>343893938
now this looks dope.
>>343893480
Am I the only one who thinks your first GTA is your favourite? Thats when you fall in love with the formula. Vice City still hasn't been topped for me. It still had the simple arcade formula, health was in numbers, weapons could be found hiding around the world and at the end of the story you got a huge mansion, your own little mafia, control of all the major buildings in the city, an invincible car, a white infernus, a limo and a chopper.
SA's setting didn't appeal to me, I enjoyed IV but I certainly didn't play it for the characters or story. It was shit like V's. Driving people around/following them while they talked got fucking boring quick in IV, RDR and V.
>>343893875
I guess it did have triads, very briefly. I guess I just appreciate that they didn't go right to the Italian mafia again. I feel like the writer's abilities at the time of earlier GTAs would have just automatically made Michael completely Italian and have mafia ties.
>>343894156
I played GTA1 first and I think San Andreas or GTA5 is the best.
>>343893480
I honestly thought it had the best driving in the series. Hell thinking about it now gives me the urge to play it and just drive around the city.
>>343894246
I and II may as well not exist. Anyone who actually thinks they are the best GTA's, and of course I've seen people say that on this shithole, are contrarian faggots of the highest degree.
>>343894156
all of the games have weapons and body armor hidden on the map.
>>343893480
these are who think V is the best GTA
>>343893743
>>343893791
>>343893814
>>343893937
>>343894267
>shitty floaty boat arcade physics are better than fun driving around fast arcade physics
>>343894385
They were amazing at the time, I was very impressed with it. Had some early examples of "technology" like how there were other criminals who would walk up and carjack you and shit. Also one of the first games I played in a completely modern open world setting like that, and I'm sure that was the case for most.
In the end, however, it's stupid to consider them better than any others. GTA3 really started the series as we know it today, for the better.
Still fun to explore
>>343894729
There's something about slapping HD textures on shitty models that makes the game look worse.
>>343894729
still better than V on consoles
>>343894915
>an HD mod on a PC is better than a game on console
woah........
>>343894915
the first few months of GTAO on consoles was GTA V's prime. everyone played TDM, everyone raced, people actually talked on their mic and tried to form crews. now, it is embarrassing.
>>343894871
vanilla textures just different lighting
>>343894871
>>343894551
Yes they are. if you want stiff driving go play San Andreas.
>Clunky driving
Jesus Christ, get good you damn casuals.
>>343895096
Driving in GTA5 was far better than the retarded driving in 4.
>>343895048
Looks amazing, link?
>cons
>hanging out with friends
Nope. I for one enjoyed hanging out with others. There was good banter.
>>343893480
Yes. Great characters, fun driving physics, best ragdoll physics, GOAT dlcs, lots of interiors. Most fun I've ever had in any gta.
Shame about V. I'm most pissed about how they completely fucked the driving physics and damage modeling.
>>343895241
>Impossible to roll over
>Can change direction mid air
>every car feels the same exact way
Can any opinion be more wrong
>>343895001
it's IV
>>343895271
google simple enb gta4
>>343895393
? we know.
>>343895393
kek'd
Shittiest radio stations in GTA ever.
I've been wanting to play this again for a while now, but I can't get it to work on Windows 10. Does anyone know how to fix that?
>Inb4 don't use Windows 10
>>343895464
modded 6 year older game looks better?!?!
>>343895241
At least try to explain why, even though we both know it's because you are too bad to drive in gta 4 without having a car crash every few minutes.
>>343895369
>Impossible to roll over
You think ridiculously soft suspension and rolling over easily is fun? Did you cream your pants every time you had to roll your car off its roof?
>Can change direction mid air
Don't change direction in the air if you don't want to. Having the option is a pro, you mong.
>every car feels the same exact way
Objectively false, the variation is no different to every car in GTA4 driving like a boat.
>>343895610
best R&B station though.
>>343895664
It was boring. It was obviously intentional because the city was so small.
And no, it wasn't difficult to drive. Stop being retarded.
I explained some of my reasons here:
>>343895665
>>343895241
You were too young when you played IV and couldn't grasp the controls
>>343895665
>driving a car feels like driving a car
>this is somehow a downside
>>343895836
>le you didn't like it so you must be bad XD
>I posted it again XD
epic
>>343895647
You mean, can't launch game because xlive bullshit doesn't work on windows 10? Just use xliveless.
http://gtaforums.com/topic/388658-relgtaiv-xliveless/
>>343895879
>I have never driven a car: the post
You honestly think GTA4's driving physics are even close to being realistic? You could easily make an argument that GTA5's driving physics were more realistic; that's how retarded you are.
I bet you're an American.
>>343895901
Go back and try it now you're a little older
IV to V is like Scorsese to Bay
>>343895610
>Calling Vladivostok FM shit
>>343896041
>Scorsese
Sure you're not the underage?
>>343894515
I played every GTA on release since GTA2 and GTA 5 is for me the best GTA so far. That doesn't stop me loving the other GTAs aswell.
But nowadays if I have to choose I would rather play through GTA5 on PC, being stunned by the graphic and the presentation of the world and the story within that make it feel like a world that is alive. This in addition with a nice "realistic" handling mod is for me a lot more enjoyable then playing san andreas or vice city or even gta 3.
>>343896009
I disagree with you
Cars felt heavy and hard to control at high speeds in IV
You know
Like in reality
>>343895816
>It was boring.
It was more fun than driving a plank of wood with no suspensions
>It was obviously intentional because the city was so small.
> this makes no sense. They made the driving "boring" because the city was small? What's your point.
>>343896009
the suspension physics are somewhat realistic. in GTAV there's barely any feedback if you go over a bump.
>>343896009
>cars don't have suspensions: the post.
>>343894551
>"fast arcade"
Oh boy I wish GTA5 would have fast arcade racing and not this accelerating for 3 seconds and then being at the max speed of 120mp/h with a top sportcar.
>>343896107
No way you can listen all those shit pop songs if you understand russian language.
>>343896168
>Cars felt heavy and hard to control at high speeds in IV
>You know
>Like in reality
That's retarded logic.
Cars felt heavier and were harder to control at high speed in all GTA's. You could make the same point for basically any game with cars in it.
My point is, that it's not very realistic in GTA4. Some games are closer to reality than others, and GTA4 falls into the 'nowhere near realistic' category.
>>343896180
>the suspension physics are somewhat realistic
Retard. The suspension in GTA5 is far closer to reality than GTA4's. GTA4's suspension roll was comical.
>>343896289
>making a retarded exaggeration to try and make you look dumb: the post
GTA5 has body roll. It's just more subtle. It's closer to reality than GTA4's.
>>343896326
>oh boy, I can't wait to drive my slow rolly boat through the narrow twisting streets of this little city
NIKO, IT'S ROMAN! LETS GO BOWLING
>>343896528
>Лeнингpaд, Кинo, Бacтa, Дeльфин and Cплин are bad
>>343896737
>oh boy, I can't wait to drive my slow rolly boat through the narrow twisting streets of this little city
I never defended GTA4 shitty handling, but the handling in GTA5 was so far from "fast arcade" that someone had to point out the bullshit you were spouting.
>>343896180
yeah no
gta 4 cars had way overblown suspension and bodyroll, gta 5 is far closer to realism, even if it feels more arcadey
>>343897016
The handling is arcadey: not realistic.
The cars accelerate and have better handling that GTA4, hence the 'faster' driving.
How the fuck is that bullshit, you stupid fuck?
>>343895610
Nope. Better than SA and V. I'm sorry you have no taste.
>>343893480
Story got shittier towards the end where they tried to shill that Irish bitch super hard.
>>343893480
No, but it is a contender for the worst mainline GTA.
Was a great technological achievement though
>>343895665
Can we just ignore this bait please.
>>343893480
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWVtZJo-HqI
It's better than V at least
>>343896737
no the suspension is definitely more realistic in GTA IV. neither of them are exactly like reality but GTA V gives the cars way too much stability.
>>343897453
kill yourself
>>343896528
>implying you have to understand Russian to enjoy shit pop songs
>>343896737
> comparing a car to a slow boat isn't an exageration
>>343897198
>>343897121
GTA IV had far superior driving to V in every way. Literally every car in V feels the same and there's no feeling of progression between shit cars and fast cars. Everything about V was casualized in terms of driving, even the damage was less detailed than it was in IV. If you think V feels closer to how cars in real life drive then you are delusional.
>>343897548
Edgy teenager posting in a GTA thread, what a shock. At least I can remember the release of GTA III you underage b&.
>playing GTA
Normies get out ree.
>>343897670
It was an exaggeration, you dumb fuck.
>if I call his obvious exaggeration and exaggeration, I'll look really smart
>>343897748
>Literally
Idiot.
>>343897840
>At least I can remember the release of GTA III you underage b&
Who says I can't?
>>343898018
You've been blown the fuck out enough already, you can leave now. Clearly your opinion is in the minority and not the correct one.
Mafia 2 had it right by letting you choose "casual" and "simulation" levels of driving so that shitters could be happy driving weightless gokarts around.
>>343893480
See the driving in GTA4 is better. Because it feels like you're driving a real car with weight. I had a fun an easy time driving. In GTAV/GTAO the cars feel so floaty, have no weight, poor traction, and are so boring.
I'm out of here.
Reminder that if you think GTA4 has realistic driving physics, you have clearly never driven a car in your life.
You're probably an American between the ages of 16-25 who will go on to only drive automatic cars and call manual cars "stick" like an underaged child.
You mispronounce the following car manufacturer's names:
>Mazda = Marz-da
>Hyundai = Hun-day
>Honda = Hun-da
>Ferrari = Fe-rare-ri
>Toyota = Toy-yo-derr
>Nissan = Nee-san
>Jaguar = Jag-wahr
>>343898303
>implying more than 3 retards are replying to me
You honestly think you're a hardcore gamer because you drove cars in fucking GTA4? I never commented on the difficulty. Driving in GTA4 is obviously harder but it's still easy to master. I'm sure even children could master it. Nice job though, special snowflake.
>>343898456
>it feels like you're driving a real car
kek
>>343898456
You can't even properly burn out or drift in V, it all feels so fake and weird. Like if you try and slip your wheels you can't because every car seemingly has traction control and the grip of an F1 car.
>stereotypical story
>awful on foot controls
>NIKO ITS YURE CUZIN! YOU WUNT TO GO BOWLINK?
nah
>>343898018
> if I keep responding with retarded greentext people won't realize I don't have any actual points.
>clunky driving
IV has the most fun driving in the series, and some of the most fun driving in any game
I don't care if it's realistic or not, or boaty or not. It's just fun to play. There's nothing like mastering the driving controls and just speeding through the city. It really feels like you're in control of the vehicle. I just love how HEAVY it feels
>>343898590
No one pronounces cars like that you fucking idiot. I can't believe you're comparing people who enjoy a more fulfilling simulated driving experience to being the same people who drive autos and can't into driving. I bet you think Forza and Project Cars are sims, kek.
>>343895147
>You have to git gud at driving
If it doesn't involve racing then that's beyond autistic.
>>343898629
>>343898456
Yeah it's called Ridge Racer psysics
Loved the Journey
It was atmospheric as fuck driving around with this song playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2i8eb5b84A
>>343898774
This guy gets it. More satisfying and dynamic driving controls equals a much more rewarding and unique experience in a game that's like 50% driving. I love how in IV when you drive a shit box it actually feels like a shit box, and when you get into a Comet or Infernus you feel amazing
I wish they remake gtav with better graphic and optimization, that's all
>Install back
>Playing like a slideshow
>Uninstall it back
Shittttt
had a lot of fun on the swingset with friends online
>>343898894
Why wouldn't it involve racing? Driving fast through the streets and the street races themselves are a big part of the game.
>>343893480
The game's biggest flaw is that the friend activities are straight up garbage. Friend interaction was clearly a big part of the game, but if it's not fun, then what's the point? The bowling, darts and pool games were just awful.
>>343898590
well it feels more sim like to a real car than past GTA games. GTASA handled like a cartoon at times.
>>343894156
well that would be gta 1 and yeah it kinda was but now i seem to like gta 3 alot more than sa and vc mainly because i didnt replay it was much
gta 2 is also goat and i doubt rockstar will ever go to the future again.
GTA V played things a bit too safe which was a shame and the map is terrible its just 90 percent mountains and nothing to do
>>343899109
I wish it have mission where i can kill that fucking agent girl. Damn, kate why you so hard to accept niko an get bang ?
>>343898590
ah, there's nothing like some good old fashioned British ass pain to brighten up my day. the maddest people on the planet earth.
I enjoyed 4 a lot more than 5.
5 just doesn't have the charm any of the other GTA's had. It's nothing but a fan service.
Everything is streamlined, everything sucks, there's no effort involved.
I hate how you can't even ever change your personal vehicle in GTA 5.
But, GTA 4 sure could've used a garage to store vehicles in, and maybe a custom shop or two.
The ending was awful. Rushed as fuck.
>>343894267
>Hell thinking about it now gives me the urge to play it and just drive around the city.
I spent most time in GTAIV getting immersed into driving around the city while listening to The Vibe.
Still haven't completed the game yet, though.
Good times.
>>343899019
i have the same thing with gta v these days the latest patches fucked up the sp something chronic and it just stutters all the time in LA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWVtZJo-HqI
>>343893480
It feels oddly realistic in the way you are fresh off the boat and work your way up.
In GTA V that happens far too fast with franklin going from a random unknown gangbanger who lives in his aunts bungalow to millionaire with a huge house in the hollywood hills in barely over 10 levels.
Also GTA V driving feels like youre glued to the ground and replaying it feels like cancer once you unlock trevor or get to the merryweather heist, whenever anyone I know replays they just stop there.
Also gta 5s world just feels dead and empty, especially considering its just one big loop with almost no reason for anyone to go up past vinewood hills, and even if you do choose to go up there, you'll often find your only accompanied by NPCs rather than players.
also gta online is shit
Glad to see that Europoor shitter has finally realized no one cares about his retarded opinions and left
>>343893480
Pros:
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>
Cons:
>no female protagonist option
>no waifus
>boring/nothing to do in multiplayer
>lack of repeatable content
>lack of interiors
>vehicle speed limit
>no turn signals
>can't drive with the traffic without taken over
>spawning cars
>spawning pedestrians
>small map
>no airplanes
Can't think of any more pros, but there are surely more cons.
>>343898774
this this and more of this
>>343898774
There are very few things that feel better then when you perfectly time a corner in IV. I could outrun Infernuses with some eighties shitbox in online because I learned how to time the corners.
GTA IV is and forever will be the best in the series by far. If you were alive and old enough to play and appreciate games as early as the mid 90s, then you'll know what I'm talking about when I say IV has that old school developer passion put into it. It feels authentic, original, like they poured love into it. No holding back, no cheating out. Just the best damn game they can make. And they succeeded.
In contrast, GTA V feels hollow, plastic, and lifeless. This isn't just some drivel a fanboy is spewing. There are objectively ways to measure the differences and consistently V fails where IV succeeds. Things like AI, euphoria and driving physics, interactivity and most of all a whole complete map that every nook and cranny feels like it has purpose and a sense of place. GTA V's map is nothing more than a check box. A dick measuring contest to say look how big our map is. But it's empty. It's filled with nothing. There are no interiors, there's nothing to do, and coupled with the downgrades to every previously mentioned aspect of the game, it loses all replay value. Once you finish the main campaign, you are left with absolutely nothing. GTA IV doesn't suffer from this problem at all. Firefights are fun, even just walking around and bumping into various NPC is more fun than going on a rampage in V.
I truly feel we have GTAO to blame for this watering down and deprecation of the old school game developing ways seen in V. They wanted that easy money and they got it. It's a shame, it really is. And it doesn't bode well for other future Rockstar titles. If there is a new Red Dead game on the horizon, I don't think I want it.
>>343900125
Wat
>no turn signals
???
I feel like getting GTA IV for myPS3but I don't know if I want to drop 30 europes on the bundle since I already played them years ago. I just kinda want to see how I feel about it in retrospect. I remember being kinda bored by it when I played last time
>>343900675
>feels hollow, plastic, and lifeless
I think it's because they made it for past gen, that's why certain features like interiors, physics, and minigames were cut.
>>343894156
>Am I the only one who thinks your first GTA is your favourite?
Not for me desu. My first was GTA 2 when I was like 7 and I only seen it at a friend's house. I barely remember it but years later I tried getting into GTA London and I found it boring and worse than the 3D ones. My first GTA that I played a lot was GTA 3 but I still think my fav is SA. IV was a let down but still enjoyable. GTA V is great but not quite SA. Maybe it's just nostalgia goggles, I dunno.
SA > 5 > VC > 3 > 4. Won't judge 1,2 & London because of little experience.
>>343900675
i like got GTA IV and RDR had a lot of emotional sincerity. V just feels obnoxiously ironic and silly all the time.
its pretty heartbreaking when niko finally confronts darko...and if you choose to kill him, niko just feels empty.
>tfw museum piece
such an amazing mission
she is my waifu
The car camera in IV was great, wish V had a mod for it
>>343896168
Absolute and utter bullshit.
In reality the faster you are going the less you need to turn the wheel to actually turn. Which is the grand fucking opposite of GTA IV driving, where the car just fucking stops turning after reaching 15° in the desired direction.
What speed does actually do is make your turns wider, but not on the front, on the back. You turn, the front of your vehicle turns and then the back of your car keeps going with its former momentum. GTA IV does do that too, but it mainly stops me from turning the front of my car as much as I want to and it does it in a retarded fashion. I can reach the 15° pretty fast, but then the fucking car stops turning. So whenever I don't need to do a 90° turn for a while I end up underestimating how much I need to slow the fuck down to actually do it and just eat a fucking wall.
This is not realistic in any shape or form.
>>343894156
Played 3 first; the noir aesthetics and atmosphere will always give it a fond place in my heart, but VC shits on it and SA rapes and then shits on VC, if you pardon my edge.
Hated IV because the map was tiny and awful to drive in, there was less weapons, less fun vehicles, less side content, worse missions (literally playing taxi or terminator after watching 5-10 mins of shitty cutscenes) and handles like crap outside of aiming.
Never played 5, but since mods are stifled and is a semi-remake of a GOAT game, I'm not sure i will.
>>343893480
>tfw dating that clingy lawyer chick
She reminded me too much of my ex. I don't want these feels when I'm playing vidya
>>343900675
Couldnt agree more. I think I love you.
>>343894551
>boat physics
disregard, we got a retard here.
you fuckers love to spout "boat physics" ever since dan houser used that term to describe the driving when he explained that they changed it up for GTA V.
if the shit pisses you off so much use killamote's realistic driving and flying handling.dat. greatly improves IV's driving physics, but doesn't turn it into fucking easy-mode
Roman dying ending is the best ending thematically speaking, nothing else is acceptable
>>343907750
how many different endings are there?
>>343907750
that's the canon ending. rockstar tried to make it ambiguous but TBoGT confirmed it.
>TBoGT's finale takes place one day after IV's final mission
>TBoGT credits depict Packie leaving Liberty City (which we now know was a plane to Los Santos)
>In the Revenge ending where Kate dies, Packie mentions he has to stay to take care of Ma since Kate was the only other one that would
>there is no indication in the Deal ending that says Packie's Ma dies
>therefor if Packie is able to leave Liberty City, Kate has to be alive to take care of Ma
>Deal ending is canon
>>343908079
also I'll throw in the fact that for both GTA IV and GTA V, their trailers always showcase a scene or dialogue from only ONE of the endings
>GTA IV trailer depicts the "Welcome to America" scene and dialogue when Niko kills Dimitri on Happiness Island
>GTA V trailer depicts dialogue from Ending C in a couple trailers, as well as the cutscene when they are on the cliff - except the animations for the scene are played on a roof with a cop car exploding instead of Devon's car as not to spoil it.
also it's pretty much a given that Niko would kill Darko, and if you pick that one there's no reason to kill Dimitri since it's supposed to show that the revenge has solved nothing. hell, Niko was on his way to the deal before Roman(???) somehow knew where Dimitri was, he was willing since he wouldn't even have to directly work with Dimitri
