Is it smart to continue not knowing Japanese?
I guess you get to enjoy your own westernized version of Nier Automata or dubbed Persona 5, but I'm not sure that makes not learning Japanese worth it.
Why are americans so retarded they cannot comprehend ideas from other cultures and need things dumbed down for them? Fucking ruining things for everyone else.
are you just one (1) guy posting this shit over and over again or is there more of you? the way you structure your sentences are pretty much the same, work on your shitposting, geeze
>>343889432
our education is really bad.
>>343889492
You seem very unhappy, Western gamer that will get to enjoy Western Nier: Automata. Seems like not learning Japanese wasn't worth it for you.
>>343889308
Yeah i'm sure you fucking hated the original Nier because that's what the sentence is talking about
>>343889581
>nier had pretty boy changed to muscleman to fit the western audience
>nier automata dolls have been changed to man-jawed femdykes to better fit the western audience
thanks!
>>343889308
Yeah this sounds cultural more than language based. as for >>343889432 there are certain things that we find weird, like semen ingestion by young boys in somalia, or the pedophilic culture of Japan.
>>343889558
nah, man I mad because I wanna shitpost in a more creative manner and you start the thread with blatant bait, good thing nierfags jump on this and we get hours of shitposting but it's getting stale, if ya catch my drift
>>343889793
I'm sure the semen ingestion and pedophilia in the JP version of Automata is what they're talking about when it comes to localization.
>>343889723
No, that's wrong
Big muscleman was in the 360 version in japan, the only version that was ported to the west.
Guess what, papa nier is miles better than bro nier even though some scenes make more sense with bro nier.
It's a concept that only Japanese people can understand.
>>343889971
You liked it because surprise surprise it was a change done to suit the tastes of westcucks like you. So being the cuck you are I suppose you'd just love a femdyke makeover for the Automata girls.
It's not for everyone but learning Japanese is one of the best decisions I ever made. Not even weeb, I love western games too but fuck, learning Japanese let me play so many games I couldn't, or their superior versions.
>>343889938
So learning Japanese is literally for faggots
>>343889971
>Big muscleman was in the 360 version in japan
Do you know why they did that? Because they wanted it to sell in the west.
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/05/20/barbarian-nier-was-born-in-los-angeles/
>>343890314
I don't think you can learn Japanese without having at least some faggot genes in your system. Say, on the Kinsey scale make sure you are at least a 3 if you want to start learning Japanese.
>>343890137
It just seems like such a massive undertaking. I could be using my time on more important thinks like complaining about how big my backlog is and doing nothing to fix it
>>343890356
And non of that was 8-4
>8-4
game is doomed
why are you not bilingual yet /v/?
>>343890356
I just played replicant nier for the first time yesterday - and honestly it was a legit concern.
Bronier looks like a gigantic faggot or tranny, and the first jump-slash animation is you destroying the floor beneath you - with a tiny rapier in your hand.
It looked ridiculous quite honestly.
>>343890789
It wouldn't look ridiculous if you were Japanese, obviously.
>>343889432
We don't have pedophile culture, and our pervert culture is niche (extremely so for drawings), something released here with pedophile culture or the creepy rapey Japanese pervert culture would be considered taboo, no company wants to be associated with taboo. Just ask illusion after Rapelay made the rounds in our media. That game is banned everywhere now.
>>343890105
Eat your hamburgers, Apollo
>>343890831
Well, that was the point - its fine for japs but they wanted a western version.
I think he added even more to the game than they intended, probably why Taro was all fine with it enough to even admit it into his "canon" in a way
The Japanese literally believe in things like light and dark, friendship, and so on being physical forces with their own power. The amount of acclaimed, intelligent novels, movies, and so on that have emerged from Japan pale in number to those emerging from the west in the past 100 years. As a culture, Japan is infantile and attracts the infantile.
>>343889308
Can I just choose to not buy the game to not support companies that pull this shit?
You guys argue about the same shit every time, can't we just skip to the part where we talk about learning nip?
It's true, though. There are etymological concepts and cultural expectations that could be obvious to a native without the need to explain it that wouldn't transfer well to English.
>>343890934
You don't have to use something extreme like Rapelay as an example. Just look at Rule of Rose, it got banned everywhere.
>>343890934
Personally I love how Gunvolt dealt with the issue of pedophile culture by putting in gender neutral pronouns, so progressive and innovative xD
>>343890967
>>>/a/djt
now let's go back to argue about same shit
>>343890693
>not being trilingual
>>343891053
>Just look at Rule of Rose, it got banned everywhere.
Rule of Rose was banned from europe because of xenophobia and misinformation. ffs I think a politician said it's a game where you shoot little girls.
>>343891117
>first and only one to bring up tumblrshit
>>>/t/umblr.
>>343889308
As a person who know Japanese as much as English (my 2nd) I'd say if you're weeb enough to play fucking Persona, Nep, Touhou, VN, or spend 10 hours a day watching weebshit anime, fucking go for it.
It's easy, let you out of NoA cuck spot, own superior Japanese PS4 games, stop relying on Steam weebshit, and may even land you a nice job too.
Even if I'm lying about my skill, you know the rest is true.
>>343891167
>sending people to /a/
>>343891117
Japan doesn't actually have pronouns. And Zonda was shitnon in the western release still.
>>343890960
Considering it's people who create culture, comparing a little island nation with 120million or so inhabitants to an entire civilization of over 800 million is stretching your argument pretty fucking thing.
>>343890934
You don't have A CULTURE you fucking swine, which is why when faced with the culture of a different country you
>recoil in disgust and hate because its not readily apparent what is why
>try make it your own because you like it so much even though you don't try to understand it
>>343891424
>localization choice that is literally in the game
>tumblrshit
Not everything is a meme you moronic redditor.
>>343891475
Indeed, literally Hitler.
Before this thread devolves into people making excuses for their substandard Japanese;
Go through the Tae Kim Grammar Guide.
Do Anki, core6k, every single day for at least an hour.
Go to Japan and make at least one friend and talk to them as much as you can.
If you miss any of these steps you're never going to be good at speaking Japanese.
>>343889308
>they actually changed a lot
>it is a little bit different
>>343890693
But i amMy second language is spanishKill me now
This is done with literally every localized game.
>>343891742
Sounds useful if you are a criminal
>>343891506
I fail to see how that has anything to do with referring to robots with 'xer' or whatever the shit it is.
>>343889308
>not knowing Japanese
Learning a language to play games?Heт, cпacибo
>>343891759
But now we are aware and are casting off the chains holding us down. No longer will we be enslaved to censorship. First Fire Emblem Fates, now Nier and Persona 5, /v/ shall lead the charge for the greatest fight for free speech and artistic freedom since the Revolutionary War. Nay, perhaps in all of history, our fight matters even more in this hostile, globalized world where all of us can be silenced by one master group.
>It's a "retarded americucks try to defend their shit """"culture""""" episode
Why does /v/ support pedophilia again?
>>343891917
GG already happened and it crashed and burned
>>343892019
cause it's hot
>talking shit about Ted Woolsey
>>343890693
becuase i already am ho
enjoying that delicious nihongo on all them street signs you postin on ur aesthetic blog cuz i can read
>nihongo
>>343891554
>You don't have A CULTURE you fucking swine
>which is why when faced with the culture of a different country
>you recoil in disgust and hate because its not readily apparent what is why
That's a contradiction, we're not recoiling in disgust for no reason anon, it's because our culture differs from theirs. you seem to be projecting pretty hard to cope with people not liking what you like. You want to make people having different cultural views inherently wrong so you project this idea that they're all actually philistines with no culture instead of people in a culture where pedophilia and perversion is frowned upon. tough stuff.
>>343891571
>try to make this about tumblr by bringing tumblr up for no reason
>fails
>I KNOW! I'LL BRING UP REDDIT FOR NO REASON
>>>/r/eddit
I don't have the motivation to learn another language and where I live is isolated enough from other countries that it wouldn't be useful.
>>343889308
Well, Western Daddy Nier was much better than Japanese Pretty Boy Nier, so who knows it could be a good thing.
>>343892218
Literally the first mention of "tumblr" in this thread was by you. The fact that you're associating gender neutral pronouns in the English localization of Gunvolt with tumblr says enough about your moronic obsession with shitposting. Neck yourself.
>>343891424
Nah m8 the French politician straight up thought it was a game where you rape little girls because he read that in an Italian tabloid and didn't even bother checking any of this before starting the banning process
>>343889308
>Is it smart to continue not knowing Japanese?
I don't particularly care. the gameplay will be the same, if any story elements are offensively butchered then I can just read up on what was removed on the internet.
>>343891917
I don't think this has anything to do with censorship. There's just shit that can't be understood if you translate it as is. You have to change the script in order for the region you're localizing the game for to understand. I've never had a problem with all the jrpg's I've played over the years so why should I now. It's the same shit.
>anons go full retard because of gamergate #2 or some other shit
>japanese writing starts appearing in text, word here, word there
>soon half of the sentences are in japanese
>soon 75%
>eventually everything is in japanese and the entirety of 4chan population has learned japanese
>anons start collaborating with japanese and creating new games to save gaming
It'll never happen, but idle musings are a way to pass time.
>>343892218
The only one projecting is you and it is in that post.
If you knew what culture is, you'd accept the differences between yours and their, but you have none, so you dont understand what they have, thanks to living in a shitty amalgamation of countries.
Instead you'd rather make sure nothing that comes into a US has their cultural trademarks because of the aforementioned reasons.
>>343892218
>You want to make people having different cultural views inherently wrong so you project this idea that they're all actually philistines with no culture instead of people in a culture where pedophilia and perversion is frowned upon
Except if it bothers you that much, you could just not buy japanese games. I dont see what gives you the right to change the games based on "M-MUH CULTURE".
Espacially considering your localizations are the ones the rest of the west gets, meaning that you are forcing your culture down other's throats
>>343890960
You're right to hold weebs in contempt. Where you're wrong is uncritically accepting weebs' view of Japanese culture as correct. Mainstream Japanese also hold weebs (and their domestic versions, the ones who treat children's television shows as serious literature) in equal contempt.
Look up Murakami or Soseki sometime. Japan produces actual culture, it just gets buried under children's bullshit because weebs are just the worst.
>>343892557
>anons start collaborating with japanese
you had a good run until this sentence here, the japanese hate foreigners and are racist as shit
>>343890693
I am. English isn't my first language,It's Dutch.I've been working on niprunes for a while but haven't been getting anywhere due to other obligations (mainly studying). Some day I'll be trilingual though, and after that Quadrilingual and maybe even Pentalingual
>>343892791
Murakami? That's who you choose to stand together with Souseki?
>>343892557
Sounds like the old kana captcha retard shit. For the majority of people, you could be here for 20 years and groan about every shitty translation job out there, and you still wouldn't put in the minuscule level of effort actually required to learn a new language. Bitching is fun, learning is a hassle, so it somehow makes sense to just spend all your time bitching instead of working to better yourself.
>>343892791
>look up Murakami japan produces actual culture
>every single book of his have detailed perversions hamfisted in
no
>>343890960
>infantile culture
>American adults still can't understand it
>>343890693
>Parents decided to move to spain when I was 7
>Went to school there and became semi-fluent
>Moved town/school and learned some valencian as well
>Fucking hated the second school I went to because all the kids called me a nigger and none of the teachers cared
>Spanish teenagers were also cunts in general
>Parents split and later divorced, moved back to Bongland by the time I was 10
Now that I'm 20 I can barely remember the language since I haven't had any use for it, and I get bitter as fuck towards spaniards whenever I see one
>It's a people bitch like America while acting exactly like America thread
Every time.
>changing things for the 'western audience'
the 'western' audience don't even play these games, foklk who do -want- to see some other culture.
not even arguing censorship anymore, that boat sailed, learning moon confirmed. not that I have time between learning every computer programming language under the sun to keep up with technology, thanks for that.
>>343892848
Hi, neighbour.
I'm also bilingual with English not being my first language. I started elarning Japanese nearly a year ago.
>>343892339
>talk about how cultures are different
>you reply with roughly "OH YEAH WELL MUH GENDER PRONOUNS PROGRESSIVE RITE"
>>>/r/eddit
>>>/t/umblr
>>343892354
That's messed up. Rule of Rose was pretty great (cept that gameplay)
>>343892634
>If you knew what culture is, you'd accept the differences between yours and their(s)
what part of "things from their cuture are taboo to ours" are you really so daft that you think people should go "oh well we should allow this child to drink semen, as inorder to have culture we must forsake our own views. in order to truely be cultured we must not look down on pedophiles and perverts despite it being a core belief since the country was still colonies! because that's the cultural thing to do!"
Once again you're projecting "culture" as "thing I like" and since people frown on something you don't like you project "well the only do it because they have no culture" to cope. sad stuff really.
>>343892718
>Except if it bothers you that much, you could just not buy japanese games.
It doesn't bother me, Love me some weebshit every now and then. however it will bring with it what normal people called a "taboo" something no non pornographic (no business at all when it comes to pedophilia) business wants to be associated with. so they keep it to regions where they won't gain a taboo and alter it it to avoid taboo in others. common sense really.
>>343893226
>and since people frown on something you don't like
*something you like
>>343893173
>that boat sailed
This. In this world, you have to take matters into your own hands and learn the language, you can't rely on faggots who do a bad job and call it a day.
>>343889308
I hope the Japanese industry fails faster and starts adaptating to the rest of the world.
I love their games but it's been decades yet Japanese games still take months or maybe never to reach other countries.
Japan is the only country that can create games and not put English text on them and the sooner their industry falls the faster it will be mandatory for all Japanese games to have English text.
>>343890693
I speak german and english
>>343892862
how about Dazai?
>ウィーブ達はまだ情けない言い訳する
本当にクズだね。
>>343893226
>complains about tumblr and reddit
>proceeds to spam tumblr and reddit
Just go back there if you love those sites so much. And you completely missed the point of my post but I guess that goes without saying, given how much of a massive retard you are.
>>343893431
Whiny as shit, make it Akutagawa.
>>343892718
Please tell us what we can do to change that, my enlightened friend. You seem to have all the answers.
>>343893554
>n-no you ;.;
come on anon, go back.
>>>/t/umblr
>>>/r/eddit
>>343892791
>Look up Murakami or Soseki sometime.
1Q84 was shit. Murakami got old, which is a shame.
>>343893676
>maybe if I keep spamming he'll give up and I'll win the internet argument
(You) got me kid. Have fun.
>>343889432
Honestly we can, but for some reason the rest of the world thinks we can't like we're British or something.
>>343890960
They have some pretty great novelists and film makers.
What you are describing is their animation and young adult novel departments which is about the same as the rest of the world.
>>343890693
But I AM bilingual.I speak fluently in French.
>>343889308
if you are "learning japanese", then you are a fucking weeb and should already kill yourself
>>343889308
Who gives a shit about this game?
>>343893530
日本語を勉強しない者は本当のヴィーブと言えるかも
>>343889723
>nice had a pretty boy change
Stopped reading there. Why do you talk shit you have no idea about? Neir Gestalt existed before it was localized because Taro is as crazy as you are a faggot.
>>343890105
those are some good looking donuts
>>343893887
>y-you just want a (you) ha bet you didn't know I knew that meme!
see >>343893676
>>343894137
see>>343890356
>CUHRAAZZZYYY XDD
kill yourself
>>343894137
>because Taro is crazy
You mean because SE told him brother Nier wouldn't work in the west.
>>343893998
>complain about weeb
>yotsuba 4chan mongolian cave painting board
>two thousand and sixteen
yeah bro, cool memes bro.
>>>/reddit/
I just don't want 2B's design changed in any way at all. Every part of her design is one of my fetishes.
>>343894268
>You mean because SE told him brother Nier wouldn't work in the west.
And that's why Nier gestalt came out in Japan, right?
Also are you implying that Taro isn't insane? Dude conducted an interview hiding under the table while using a sock puppet.
Now that the dumb argument are done, let's talk about some JP only games.
Kurohyou 1 and 2 on the PSP are seriously under-rated in Japan. They have a level of polish you just don't see on the PSP. Battles are fun as fuck and there's plenty to do.
>>343890946
>>343894194
The fuck are you guys talking about? Those are clearly eclaires
>>343894237
>>>/reddit/
>>343894310
there is a difference between enjoying some japanese products, and being the definition of a stereotype.
>>343890693
I know both Spanish and English, but I don't really care for speaking Spanish. Never seen any legitimate reason for learning another language than getting you a job, travelling the world (most of the countries you'd want to visit have English speakers), and being able to play dumb weaboo games in their native language (wow who cares)
>>343894535
>>>/reddit/
>>343889308
>players from the different regions will have fun.
IT'S A YOKO TARO GAME YOU DON'T PLAY FOR FUN
YOU PLAY FOR THE STORY WHICH NOW IS BEING BUTCHERED FUCK I'M MAD
>>343894431
>And that's why Nier gestalt came out in Japan, right?
I don't know why they released Gestalt in Japan, but Taro himself said it was changed because of SE.
>Also are you implying that Taro isn't insane?
No, I'm stating that isn't why Nier was changed.
>>343889432
>americans
>implying it isn't done for Britbongs who would invade their country and claim it was "4 th queeen, righto chaps!" if they tried to make ninjas look like heroes
Good old English censorship
>>343894595
There's also a difference between learning Japanese and being a self-unaware cringy weeb.
>>343890693
>Not living outside English-speaking countries
>Not being naturally bilingual due to internet
shiggydiggy
>>343894629
This must be your first Taro game. BECAUSE IT ALWAYS HAPPENS.
>>343894595
just because you assume everyone who likes anime is a fat sweaty otaku yeah? guess what, that makes -you- a stereotype.
>>343889308
That's fine. It's only bad when Nintendo does it.
Letting foreigners onto this site was a mistake.
>>343889308
He's talking about the first Nier you retard
>>343894745
indeed. read this thread and tell me it is truly about linguistics, rather then weebing.
>>343894785
>there is a difference between enjoying some japanese products, and being the definition of a stereotype.
chill your tits and read that sentence again.
>>343890693
Too poor for lessons and can't stay motivated enough to do it on my own.
The world would be so much better if Americans didn't exist.
>>343895084
If they didn't, you wouldn't have videogames. Japan would have kept them to themselves, and Europe wouldn't have bothered because they don't even both right now. Meanwhile, most of Europe has fallen into irrelevancy and just become a breeding ground for muslims.
>>343895084
enjoy your poverty shitskin
>>343895084
>brexit
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>343891991
>implying these aren't changes made for brits and other English speaking """people"""
>>343894881
Look at badly they outnumber us now. And they've destroyed the entire community. You can escape the anti American slander from these fucks. Thanks Moot. Lifting all the foreign IP blocks was a great idea.
>>343895438
learn proper english then talk shit about foreigners
>>343895378
>changes are made by america
>changed game is sold to americans
>"I-ITS THE BRITS GUYS"
>>343894478
>eclaires
>eclaire
It's probably one of the most beautiful words in the world when spoken by a qt3.14 French lad.
>>343894881
>>343895438
>STOP TRIGGERING MEEEEE THIS IS MY SAFE SPACE
>>343895543
Fuck off, refugee. I guess destroying your own country's communities wasn't satisfying enough for you. Time to ruin American communities.
>>343895438
Someone needs to teach you how to write proper English, faggot.
>>343889550
Do not blame the education system. Blame yourself for being incompetent.
>>343895578
French really is a nice sounding language.
Of all the foreign movies I have watched French language ones are the only ones that can rival English in terms of being very fast and snappy like a Tarantino movie.
>>343895578
French sounds like the speaker is constantly making that grunt people do before spitting on the ground. I don't get the French sounds beautiful meme.
I tried to watch Ong Bak once and quit halfway through.
The action was nice but the fucking Thai language just sounded horrid. Everyone sounded like they were garbling words in their mouths. Only time I quit watching a movie because of the accents.
Why can't they just translate the game instead of localizing it? Do they really think american people are so dumb they won't understand foreign concepts at all? Do they need to put hamburgers in japanese games?
>japanese games
>>343896082
>Do they need to put hamburgers in japanese games?
Of course.
Does anybody got a good nipponese learning mobile app?
I work and only have the weekend to learn shit, an app would help immensely
>>343890693
But I am, first language chinese, which made learning japanese actually quite easy. english is a given.
>>343896492
Obenkyo.
>>343896384
Thank you, Edge-kun.
>>343896492
AnkiDroid.
>>343890693
I'd tried learning Japanese but frankly it's a lot of fucking effort and dedication for something that doesn't actually have a ton of use if you don't live in Japan and aren't an otaku.
