Why is opening a crate on Steam considered gambling but buying a pack of cards with a random selection perfectly legal even for children?
Neither the cards nor the games are money, so what's the difference?
you can trade skins for money
>>343887437
You can also trade cards for money.
>>343887332
because physical product has been regulated since baseball cards
>>343887517
shut the fuck up valvedrone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRbAzmA889c
>>343887517
That has nothing to do with Gamefreak/Nintendo/WotC though.
On the other hand, Valve is basically endorsing RMT.
>>343887332
Fuck me those boosters look so freaking sexy
>>343887634
rekted poketard
Different cards actually changes gameplay, skins add nothing.
>>343887332
>>343888014
Thank fuck I'm not the only one.
Brings me right back to being 12 years old.
>>343889120
This isn't true. Payday 2 skins have increased stats.
>>343889219
Oh you
>>343889219
we're clearly talking about csgo
It's probably a matter of what is actually done with the "random drops".
Trading cards are rarely traded for money by children, while it's what usually happens with ingame items.
>>343889615
I just back from Akiba, what the hell those cards, what the hell 7500yen for a shiny card with anime lady on it.
What the hell.
>>343889219
They scrapped skin stats if I remember right
>>343889745
>Akihabara
>children
Learn to read.
>>343889745
Know the name of the TCG? If it was a Bushiroad TCG that would be understandable.
>>343889151
>tfw the smell of a freshly opened booster pack is only 2nd to a freshly opened large box PC game CD and 30 page manual
We have to go back
It's not the act that is the problem.
It's the regulation. Trading cards are heavily regulated by various trading standards.
Valve regulate themselves. That's dangerious for the consumer.
>>343889845
I also saw pokemans cards on the row.
>it was the original intention
Well, gaben could also said that they put item trading system for a purpose.
>>343889875
Perhaps, I cant read moon and just browsing through.
>>343889967
TCGs still exist anon. Just don't play Magic or Yugioh, it's for the best that you don't get involved in that cancerous community.
>>343890159
but those are the only ones that even have a community
>>343890226
Bushiroad and Pokemon both have lively communities, as well as a healthy metagame. Yugioh and Magic are both "Use this netdeck or lose" TCGs.
Officially, a pack or cards is just that - sealed product with no monetary value after it's opened. This is why WotC never mentions the second hand market or that some cards are "worth" more than others - the moment they do, they are slammed with gambling lawsuits. The secondary market exists, but there isno official connection between opening a booster and getting any money out of it.
With Valve, it's a little different because they also own the platform used to trade and sell (important word) the stuff contained in the random crates.
>>343890378
>Bushiroad and Pokemon both have lively communities
Not where I live. Nobody has even heard of Bushiroad and Pokemon died 10 years ago
>>343890378
Bushiroad meta decks get outdated very fast.
>>343890378
>use this netdeck or lose
same for Pokemon m8
>>343887332
>Physical products are heavily regulated, digital ones are not (the law just hasn't caught up in most countries)
>They are called CCG (collectible) or TCG (trading) for a reason: it doesn't involve a second-hand (monetary) market process. The official transfer is you buy packs from the producer and that's it. You are potentially encouraged to trade these cards with others (and even that is not an official part of the game, just an implicit encouragement at best) but never, ever, are you encouraged by the producer in any way to sell these cards for actual money.
>If you choose to engage in the selling or buying of physical cards, you are doing this on your own terms. There are no official rules or regulations for this, you choose your own venue, your own prices, your own sellers and buyers etc. The producer of the game has nothing to with the whole process. This is simply not the case with Valve, because they own the very platform that makes the selling/buying possible. So not only are they selling a product (crates, costumes etc.), they also own and self-regulate the platform that these goods are then sold on.
>Valve/Steam has had legal trouble for digital content rights etc. for years, especially in Europe. This could simply be another thing that they've """""overlooked""""".
>>343887839
Endorsing how?
None of those sites are anything to do with valve.
>>343891359
what is steam market
>b-but it's monopoly money
>>343890378
>Healthy meta
What is Night March?
>2006
>people mock Bethesda for trying to sell $5 cosmetic horse armor
>2016
>people pay over $20,000 for knife skins
Just what is wrong with Valvedrones?
>>343891532
uh, it's not the same thing
horse armor is stupid as shit it doesn't even go on your character while most of the knife skins are sexy af
>>343891507
Dead
>Shuffles all Pokemon from Discard into Deck.
>>343891532
idiotic mobile gamers (aka atm machines) have taken over.
t. competitive player 0 purchased "skins"
>>343887332
The crate isn't the gambling part. The gambling part are the third party websites. Fuck. I'm not ready for this week of /v/
>>343891941
Except for how you have to pay money to open a crate for a chance at winning big.
>>343887332
>>343887332
What happens when this ends in a Grand Exchange style update where you cannot trade with people unless the value as established by Valve and the market approximately matches?
It's the only way to stop it.
>>343891821
cute armpits
>>343887332
It's the same thing. All of the values that are given to skins are adjusted by the consumers. Valve doesn't directly deal with gambling money, but instead are paid for a service.
People are just anally anguished that they spent 2K on pixels and got nothing.
>>343887332
>you will never open a fresh pack of pokemon cards again
