Why do companies have trouble understanding this?
because there's only two tiers of control correctness
correct- mouse keyboard
incorrect- others
you don't have to bother to try when you know you can't be on top
>>343867353
yes i agree
the gamecube controller is the best controller ever
>>343867353
Why can't you idiots play with any of the 3 given controllers?
>>343867353
>PEOPLE SHOULD PLAY GAMES THE WAY I WANT THEM TO
Yeah, kill yourself OP.
>>343867353
Controller layouts don't really matter that much.
I only prefer the dpad position on 360 controllers because thats what I prefer to use, dualshock is more comfortable to me though on games where I have to use the analog sticks
>>343867610
I think everyone can play with them, but any thumb-pad placement other than the Xbox controller is simply pants on head retarded.
>360
>Concave buttons
>shitty ass D-pad
>good
I play a lot of games with the dpad
Not modern games mind you
>being impaired by controller layout
seriously...
git gud
>>343867353
You do fucking know that many games have both analog sticks as primary controls? Like fps? Or racing games? Fighting games don't have it that way.
But Defining the correct controller setup based on something that is not constant is pretty dumb.
People SHOULD pick just the controller that fits that games that they play the most.
Unless your a console fag, then you have to jump through hoops to do this.
>>343867353
I was skeptical about the top stick of the pro controller and gamepad but I actually really like it.
It's my preferred layout now.
>>343867910
For all those great FPS games on the Wii U, right?
>>343867353
>waaah my thumbs aren't aligned when I use this controller
>>343867905
If the right analog stick is also a primary input then that just makes the playstation controllers even more retarded.
>>343867986
I didn't know FPSes were the only genre.
Besides, one of the most popular Wii U games is a TPS.
>>343867353
Because videogames aren't made for crabpeople
>>343867986
It would be good regardless of console.
>>343867472
have fun with dark souls or any racing game
Too bad you fucking idiots don't understand that there's pretty much a best controller for different genres.
>Fighting games, where most of the time will be on the d-pad and face buttons
Sony controllers generally win this due to not having atrocious d-pads and both are in symmetrical positions
>Racing games, while dependent on preference, can be played with either both analogs or left analog and buttons/triggers
Analogs would be Sony, triggers would easily be Microsoft
>FPS, generally like fighting games but the opposite, since a majority of the time both thumbs will be on the sticks and triggers
Sony semi-wins this, but with triggers it's purely preference
and so on.
>>343867910
Complete opposite for me, the low face buttons placement made that controller a nightmare on my thumb when playing anything that used a lot of button inputs.
Killed the console for me, haven't touched it in 2 years.
>>343867353
Are you missing fingers op? Just go with your own preference.
>>343867353
>Xbox was always known for their shooters
>shooters require both sticks
>sticks are not symetrical
Dumbfuck xbrony
I find your inherent prejudices extremely toxic
check your finger privilege
>>343868268
>>343868268
I was waiting for this.
Check out all the little girls that can't adapt. Different controls too hard for you? Grow a fucking pair.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fBx0lEv.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
ill raise you one OP
>>343868268
What the fuck am i look at
>>343868317
Is that a PSPGO? Why the fuck is it so small?
>>343867353
Xbox has great controllers to hold, but I prefer the PS4 layout better. Nintendo has shit controllers with a pretty good D-pad.
>>343868268
Benjamin! How the fuck have you been?
>>343868317
No one with any decency owns a Street, faggot.
>>343868389
I can't remember the name but it's a budget PSP 3000 with no wi-fi
>>343868268
>>343868447
Pretty sure hes refering to the claw faggot
>>343867787
>>Concave buttons
You don't know what either concave or buttons mean, do you?
>>343868418
been jammin.
![MonsterClaw[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LTTD01a.jpg "MonsterClaw[1].jpg")
>>343868389
Nah its a psp street like below anon said only faggots had one
>>343868447
took it from google faggot
>>343868228
>Muh symmetrical sticks
Because aesthetics > comfort, right?
Feels so great craning your thumbs over to the secondary positions when you need to use both sticks, because at least it's symmetrical!
>>343868528
Claw isn't hard to use either, are you another child the can't play more than one way? Your plastic toy too hard to use?
>>343868604
nice cat
I cannot remember the last ps4 game that forced this hand placement for longer than a few seconds
Game devs adept their controls for the controller of the device they dev for
>>343868613
>actually having difficulty reaching anywhere on a controller
What kind of baby hands do you have and have ypou every attempted to pick up an instrument
>>343867571
Give it one more shoulder button, a SELECT button, and maybe a more comfortable shape for the C stick; and it would be the most perfect controller ever.
>>343868578
>being so dumb you can't use common sense to figure out what I meant
sticks, and yes you can press them so they technically are buttons :3
>>343868186
steam controller maybe?
>>343867724
This. /v/ hit unreasonable levels of delusional pessimism years ago.
>>343868613
Women leave now. If not woman, kill yourself as you are no many with baby hands
>>343868604
Last time I googled "the claw", a bunch of videos of your mom giving handjobs popped up
>>343867353
All of the are useful if you are not retarded.
>>343867353
For FPS games I'd say Xbox but only because I switch between claw and standard grip without noticing at this point.
>>343868648
Where did i say it was hard you defensive mongol? I fucking love the claw.
I'm just stating your a dipshit for pointing out the wrong thing in thenimage
>>343868738
I have one, I'd choose a 360 controller over the steam controller. Except for rts games but I dont play any.
>>343868868
Go to bed anon, your mom will get upset if she finds you posting on your phone after bed time.
>>343868898
Meant to post this one
>>343868871
fuck, i was thinking about buying one
>>343868868
that guy is just retarded anon see>>343868801
Probably an aussie
>>343867353
The idea that face buttons are primary input in most modern games is simply not true
When you design a game that forces gamers to use an unintuitive control scheme, you done fucked up.
>>343869014
armored core?
>>343868975
The most its good for is rocket league. But at that point a 360 controller is still better and cheaper. It was still hard playing games like dead rising where the camera angles arent the main focus.
>>343867353
>uses PS3 controller instead of PS4 controller so he can prove his point
>>343867610
DualShock 3 is too small and the left analog stick isn't comfortable to use for long, also the triggers and analog sticks are really poorly made.
>>343868268
>>343869071
That's what the picture is referring to, yeah, but I was referring more to controls, and their controllers, in general. That's the best image I had on hand at the moment.
>>343869014
this is a meme
also funfact, if you're good at the souls games and like armored core but was always bad at it, go back and try again, the controls feel remarkably similar
>>343867353
Motherfucker I was bred on the NES controller. Nothing on the market can compete with that discomfort. Thumbs gnarled and red, fingers aching all the time. The SNES had a shitty small controller too but was like a goddamn blowjob after the NES.
Don't you dare disrespect even the shittiest controller of 2016 until you spend 5 years or so exclusively on the NES pad.
>>343867472
>Dark Souls
>Rocket League
>Any fighting game
There are plenty of games that require a controller of sorts.
>>343869071
>>343869014
>>343869190
It was just an ACV thing
>>343869249
>rectangular controller
seriously what the fuck was shitendo thinking
>>343869148
But the PS4 has the exact same layout, like every playstation controller?
Controllers should be modular. Solves the problem of different controls for different games.
>>343869332
Cost effectiveness, and they wanted to copy the Colecovision's gimmick of console-stored controllers for the Famicom.
>>343867353
I use all 3 of those controllers and have no issues with the controller layouts, all 3 are functional and comfortable to use you autistic fuck.
>>343867353
The xbox controller is easily my least liked current controller. Just not as comfortable as the others.
>>343869374
wasn't great
Did nip hands get smaller from DS3 controller to the DS4? My fingers get cramped more than usual.
>>343869491
Try using a vita
>>343869447
>suboptimal sns combo over and over again
Way to absolutely ruin a wemb.
>>343868664
I like the ds4 more than the ds3 and both xbox controllers
Are there 'people' who seriously don't play claw? How do you manage?
>>343869339
the ps4 ha a bigger grips ,uses concave analog sticks and different triggers
>>343869607
Filthy claw subhumans need to stay underground where they belong.
>>343869660
What does any of that have to do with button placement?
Xbox controller layout is clearly designed for fat fucks. Hence why they had to nerf it when they released it in Japan.
>>343869297
>>343868186
>they don't play DaS with mouse and keyboard
Enjoy your eternal mediocrity
>>343867353
Isn't it ironic that Xbox only have FPS games and this picture is claiming the primary right position is the face buttons and not the right stick?
>>343869596
Few people actually know how to sns.
Fucking shieldbashing retards everywhere.
>>343867353
Because it's retarded
If the Dualshock 4 had a Nintendo like dpad and good battery life it would be absolutely flawless. While I love the Wii U pro controller for being so comfy, the DS4 is the only one which games can be played as comfortably with the dpad as well wih the stick. Even the dpad on the pro controller feels a bit too low.
find ONE good thing about this controller
>>343869882
Explain
>>343867353
>>343867472
>KB+M for EVERYTHING
Nigga, I love the thing but it sucks turbo dick at quite a few genres. Racing and fightan especially.
>>343870035
Whoops, I only looked at the thumbnail and thought you were saying dualshocks were correct. I retract my statement.
>>343870051
touchpad
>>343869882
Thanks mr skeltal
But no really go back to your home planet you sinewy alien nigger.
>>343870051
Ergonomic as fuck.
>>343870053
The original Xbox controller nicknamed "the duke" was fuckhuge just like the console itself, so much so that they made a smaller version for the Japs.
It isn't the sticks and face buttons that controllers have wrong. It's the triggers. If you want to use both triggers(L1/L2/LT/LB) you have to angle your wrist to an awkward angle. Instead of having the L2 be further down the back so you can comfortably rest the controller in your hand.
>>343868186
>dark souls
Not a problem. There's been far worse control schemes than dark souls over the years. Anyone with mmorpg experiance is used to all the keybindings anyway.
>or any racing game
Originally you wanted a joystcik for this, podracing was fucking AMAZING with a good joystick years ago.
Now you want an actual racing wheel for console or PC. Racing with a console based controller is pure shit.
>>343868268
delet this
>>343870241
I miss that thing.
Found it to be pretty comfy.
>>343869537
What is it, pandering to the younger demographics then?
>>343869183
did that goat just try to snap its own neck
it must be pretty fed up with the world
>>343870051
It's extremely comfy to hold
>>343869208
>2 analog sticks
>using the claw still
Why
>>343868268
>>343870051
They finally added pits to the analogs, I guess.
>>343870364
It is designed for jap tiny hands and absolutely horrible to use for my western bear hands
>>343870051
It's functional. It's not the Steam Controller.
I guess dualshocks having things like pressure sensitive buttons are a cool concept, but I've never once enjoyed using these little bastards.
>>343870496
The DS3 was perfect size though.
WHY DO NIPS CONTINUALLY HAVE TO MAKE THINGS SMALLER?
>>343870051
i can actually feel grip it with my sweaty as fuck hands
>>343868731
what is and isn´t a button is really not determined by whether you can press it.
>>343870731
Ds3 was too small. The grips were too short to reach my last 2 fingers so I had to awkwardly half-hold it.
>>343870196
>meme touchpad that no one uses
>good
>>343868268
>face buttons are the primary focus of the right hand in ALL games
This is true autism
>>343867353
Having D-pad in the secondary position is uncomfortable as fuck.
The analog sticks are raised which mitigates the "stretch" the reach down there. It's completely comfortable.
There should be no problem using a secondary-position analog stick unless you're actually retarded.
Moreover, D-pad in the primary position lets the controller work well for many types of games.
I use the D-pad for menus and 2D movement.
I mean shit, try playing Project Diva with an Xbox controller.
Fuck that.
The DualShock setup is a jack of all trades and works with any kind of game.
The Xbox setup works primarily for FPSs, which is why it's great for Xbox because that's 90% of its library.
Nintendo layouts are totally fucked and honestly I don't think they've ever gotten it right on their consoles ever since the N64.
>>343869854
The button placement is given more space
>>343869603
Mah nigga
>>343868268
Ayy lmao
>>343871080
Ok, in every game EXCEPT walking simulators
>>343871012
Please just use your brain before you pretend to be smart and make yourself look like a fool.
The only acceptable layout.
>>343869297
Keyboard is fine for fighting games, though it feels weird at first.
>>343870196
I use the left click, right click and center click for non-essential binds like muting my microphone or shadowplay's last five minute button. It's pleasant.
>>343872878
>controller with a literal vag
Steam controller master race
>>343874389
WRIGGLING HAND PENISES
>>343869121
>>343869034
>>343868970
>Clawing
>On a device with two analog sticks
What the fuck.
Why have you done this?
Who fucked up here, the player, who is under some dilusion claw grip is superior to anything, or the game creator, who forgot that the Vita has an entirely separate second analog stick?
>>343874389
the nail polish is the most gross thing about that picture
>>343870051
Works on Bluetooth on Windows PCs without buying a dongle.
Seriously, Microsoft, how do you fuck up that bad?
>>343869297
Keyboard is also fine for Rocket League to a certain extent, if you start to get serious with it, you better learn controller
>>343870315
>Racing with a console based controller is pure shit.
I STRONGLY disagree, especially with modern controllers.
It's not as good as racing wheels, sure, but it's way, WAY the fuck better than KB&M
Dude probably plays nothing but COD
>>343874389
>>343874626
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfN0440OcLk
>>343867353
Dpad on the bottom is fucking retarded. The flatness makes it awkward as fuck.
>>343874626
How else are you supposed to move the camera while pressing the face buttons?
>>343870060
>wanting to use your index on a dpad
seriously, using your thumb is way better.
>>343870060
I can't even tell if these are serious or not anymore
Because having buttons under the right stick is pretty shitty
>>343867353
left thumb on movement, right thumb on camera
triggers are main actions
d-pad and rights buttons are secondary actions
that's how I set up my gamepad but I mainly play keyboard + mouse
so Playstation controller is to only controller for me, sorry OP
>>343867353
Only a turd would settle with the xbox controller.
Try playing FPS with the U Pro. Symmetrical top sticks were designed for 3D games. The only reason the xbox controllers have their right stick in the wrong place is because the xbox controller is a successor of the dreamcast patents, and Microsoft just slapped on a second stick.
Face buttons are near useless these days when most actions are done with triggers.
>>343868704
why select? and whats wrong with the cstick? curiously asking.
>>343877381
>Face buttons are near useless these days when most actions are done with triggers.
Haha what
You best be joking nigger.
>>343867353
>d-pad
>secondary
Fuck off.
>>343877376
no need to be sorry for being a retard
>complaining about pad design
bitch please, I grew up starting with a master system and guess what, the pad was a fucking rectangle with a dpad and two buttons.
GIT GUD.
I prefer the Playstation controller, since I use the dpad about 25% of the time. The way I see it having the analog stick slightly lower doesn't affect gameplay, it works just as well down there. Having the dpad lower completely ruins it though, so I'd rather have it in a comfortable position. You're not going to do anywhere near as well on a shmup, fighting game or platformer if you're cramping your thumb down and losing your left/right alignment so everything becomes diagonal.
still using the d-pad whenever i can
fuck sticks
>>343870093
>fighting games
why do people think this
for racing games sure, it sucks, but for fighting games it's just a different control scheme.
using 3 different fingers to execute the motions can be much more comfortable than just your thumb
>>343867353
But that's wrong. In modern games, primary input tends to be the shoulder buttons(shooters, dark souls, driving games), with right analog controlling movement and left analog controlling camera, which are the two most used part of the controller. Which means if you're using the Xbox controller, you tend to have your fingers in an asymmetrical position, while the opposite is true of the PlayStation controller.
>>343870051
It's the second most comfortable controller I've ever held, number one being the Game Cube controller.
>>343878027
you're calling me or OP a retard?
anyways, there's no argument to be had with controls
you use what you are the most comfortable with and that's it, what is important is customization, so that anyone can control any way they want
some people might be comfortable with something, while someone else may find that horrible, it's really a personal thing
What really bothers me is that Nintendo got it right with the Gamecube controller, then stopped. The Classic Controller has the excuse of being made to play Virtual Console games, but what the fuck were they thinking with the Pro Controller?
And then they rerelease the Gamecube controller for Smash, proving that they're still perfectly able to make them. If only they would make an upgraded Gamecube controller their standard controller, but noooo, that would make too much sense.
>>343872878
>neocons ruining everything again
>>343878348
/thread
>>343878348
This is true for every system but the one using the layout described.
Go figure.
>>343878640
I personally hate the gamecube controller
-trigger buttons
-octagon slots for the sticks
-left stick and right stick are different designs
-face buttons of different shapes and sizes
I'm not saying the shape of the controller is bad but I really hate the buttons on it
>>343878960
I disagree on the trigger buttons, but the rest - along with an extra z-button - are no-brainers in an upgrade.
>>343867353
Wait, you're suppose to have your middle finger under the LT and RT? I thought you were suppose to always just use your pointing finger to use both?
>>343879116
that's for sure, the WII U controller 's shape really looks inferior
>>343879165
yes, so that every finger has a use.
i do find more comfortable to press them with the index finger
>>343879116
I have no idea why they only added a Z button on one side. There's room for it, it affected any ports from other systems since there were less buttons. You could get around no select/back button but it's dumb as fuck to make it assymetrical just for the sake of it.
>>343867353
>left thumbstick used primarily in 3D movement games
>right thumbstick used primarily in controlling camera in 3D movement games
>directional pad used primarily in 2D games
>buttons used primarily in 2D games
>controlling with a thumbpad and buttons
???
>>343869447
>not R+X-X-X + A-A-A
this is fucking disgusting
>>343867353
You're fucking gay m8
>>343880401
luka a best
>>343867353
ugh i know right?
>>343880454
I bet hearing this would make her happy.
>>343871024
my hands actually hurt if I hold the Ds3 for too long.
>>343867353
Left and right sticks should be the primary. Controlling the camera and movement are the most important aspects of any game.
Assymetrical design is outdated and the only one wrong in that pic.
>>343879752
You, anyone who disagrees with you is a fucking idiot and does not know shit.
Fucking kill yourself faggots.
>>343870658
DS4 doesn't have pressure sensitive buttons.
>no neo geo clicky sticks
>4 face buttons instead of 6
why is this allowed
>>343868812
gaem?
>Tfw have manlet hands and use DS4
do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>343868068
This, the Wii U pro is the only good controller.
>>343881507
Looks likeDeity Devourer
>>343876678
Haven't you ever had a moment where you're like running or something and then you want to do something with the dpad at the same time. It's really convenient when you can do that real quick instead of just stopping
>>343867353
Dual Shock2is best controller to me.
X360 pad always seemed unnecessarily biger and heavier. It also had shit trackpad.
DS4 is ok, but has issues like short working time. Build in light and audio seem like useless gimmicks. Trackpad is almost not used and even when it is, it's single button most of time. Share button would be ok if I could configure it to take screenshot and save it or start/stop recording, I don't want that menu to show up every time.
>>343869297
Hitbox is literally a keyboard.
>>343869969
3/10
Slightly rustled
>>343868195
In fighting games a six button pad is generally preferred and Sony's dpad is still trash so third party controllers are the go to.
>>343881979
>DS4 is ok, but has issues like short working time. Build in light and audio seem like useless gimmicks.
The headphone jack is 10/10 though
I don't know how I played rhythm games without it
>>343867472
Keyboard and Mouse is good for RTS, FPS, and spreadsheets/word documents. Controllers are better for almost every other type of game.
>>343867353
the only thing that bothered me about the playstation controller was that I'd have to re-place my thumb on the left stick after using it for a while
>>343868697
I have trouble reaching the buttons on the Wii U controller.
>>343877931
situational
but even when it's primary the thumb can feel the different directions distinctly. moving your thumb on a stick forward should be forward instead of moving your thumb sideways, if i'm making any sense
>>343869014
did anyone actually ever play Armored Core like this or is it just a joke? I can't see why anybody would want to play a game that requires you to use the controller like this.
>>343882272
It's not an issue when you're used to it. I borrowed a controller with an xbox layout for my PS3 the other day and it felt really weird having the analog on top. I also missed being able to use the dpad at the same time
>>343878295
>using 3 different fingers to execute the motions can be much more comfortable than just your thumb
if you're a huge pleb, maybe
>>343882494
Pianoed inputs are much, much faster and more precise than stick or dpad movements.
Standing 720s are a joke on one of these things compared to any other controller.
>>343882682
are those red buttons the directions? which ones are up and down? sounds really weird to get used to
>>343882796
Left, down, right and the thumb button is up.
Takes some getting used to but it's pretty damn crazy if you can.
>>343882796
first 3 are left right and down
big one is up
>>343882682
Why is the box so big?
>>343883108
because one would tend to hold it on one's lap.
>>343867353
Am I the only person on the fucking planet who can play comfortably on any of those pads without bitching? The only thing I find uncomfortable is kb+m because I fucking hate floating my hand above the goddamned keyboard for long periods. I start to feel that warm tingling in my wrist.
The only controllers I've found to be uncomfortable and shitty to use have been the N64 trident, the Gamecube pad, and the Wii wagglan wand. Nintendo has an awful track record for me.
>>343881869
kek underrated
>>343867353
steam controller can have almost every input set up you want so pls anon buy it
>>343883317
>am I the only one xD
Don't be a tool.
>>343867353
But there is nothing inferior about the "secondary" locations. And that's where the flaw of this entire argument lies.
Meanwhile not having buttons be parallels with the buttons and the sticks parallel with the sticks is just unsightly.
But if your thumbs somehow in any fashion fails to function or functions at a suboptimal level just because you have them placed asymmetrically, then you're the one with the problems and not the controller.
>>343883317
>floating my arms above the keyboard
what in the actual fuck
you're supposed to rest the arms on the desk or put the elbows on your handchair faggot
it's like complaining the controller is uncomfortable because you use it upside down and you're forced to move your fingers in a strange way
its retarded and you are retarded
>>343883317
There are aspects of the GCN controller that are really good. Problem being that they're overshadowed by core dumb design decisions.
Symmetrical Sticks >>> Asymmetrical SticksY-Axis Invert>>>Non-Inverted Controls
>>343870241
I love The Duke. Small controllers are some pussy shit. Fuck I want to fire up Combat Evolved and play with that monster now.
>>343883720
See symmetryfags
This is the type of player who supports symmetry.
A filthy invert player.
>>343867353
this picture is wrong, barely any games nowdays actually use face buttons, so listing them as primary input is stupid, if anything, control stick, camera stick and triggers are primary inputs nowdays, so putting face buttons and d-pad as secondary inputs makes 100% sense
tl;dr: OP is retarded
>>343883878
but he's right in every regardwhat is wrong with me and why can't i use controllers without inverted y axis
>>343883661
I do that, you fucking retard. I just hate my hand being positioned above the keyboard with nothing to grip, pressing downward on keys. It's fucking stupid. Give me something to pick up and hold, or like an analog stick with a fuckton of hotkey-able buttons on it. Anything but WASD for movement.
>>343883878
>"Hurr if I lean forward to look down in real life, then I guess in a game, I should pull the stick backwards instead!"
>>343884082
You do rest your hand on the keyboard (if it has space under the keys) or on the desk right?
if the problem is you don't like having nothing to grip then it's not the keyboard the problem
it's that you are used to the controller
keep playing on console, maybe it's better for you
>>343867353
Patents, mostly.
Microsoft lucked out when they patented that design.
>>343867472
>Terrible for platforming, racing, fighting, 3D action, Crazy, Musou, 3PV-stealth, etc.
>Only good for RTS, FPS, MMOs, point-and-click, and other dead PC genres.
Kek.
>>343869297
I bet my head that you are also one of those people that say that DMC is impossible to play on keyboard while any old gen nip that pulls out these insane combos on youtube actually says that keyboard is better than controller for high level play unless you can overcome the pain and claw your way through
>>343882106
Yeah that's why there isn't always ds1/4 pads making top cuts at events
>>343868268
What the fuck is happening there
>>343884663
Or just play PC games however the fuck. It's silly to act like an elitist over using something which was never meant to act as a controller as a controller. It's for typing, FFS. The very act of using it is unnatural. We have hands, with fingers and thumbs. We can grip and manipulate things.
Love using the mouse, hate the keyboard. Ideally, I'd use one of those peripherals like razr makes, but those are all garbage. Pic related, these are cool, but kind of blow in practice.
>>343882682
>Hitbox top 8 representation: 0%.
>DS4 top 8 representation: a shit-ton.
>>343884090
Its the eye movement not the head. You look down with your eyes
>>343885009
They're the minority, yeah.
Most pad players use a fightpad or a 360.
>>343885082
What did they do to the Nostromo?
>>343874626
Stick controlled cameras are shit for hunting games. If the camera isn't set vertical levels it is shit tier in the first place, but flicking to go up/down leves is worse then button presses.
God forbid they have any kind of analog camera controls too, that shit is awful for hunting games.
>>343868268
>>343869464
Okay what the fuck is that ? I want one now.
>>343885221
>Hunting games
>>343885153
>any fighting game player
>using a 360 pad
Why are you completely lying through your teeth? Why would they use the worst dpad out of probably any console for fighting games?I had to use the fucking stick for accurate inputs since the dpad is absolute trash
>>343885394
What the fuck do you want it to be called. "monster hunter + clones: the genre"
>>343867472
>no rumble
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BDRL9QY.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>343885487
Hunting games are a completely different genre.
>Sony switching X and O buttons
>americlaps wouldn't understand O being "okay" and X being "cancel"
I don't know, I played through Dark Souls, PoP and all that stuff with KB+M and I even play fighting games with it. I just can't use controllers.
>>343867353
Why do you have trouble understanding not all games use lstick as their primary movement scheme?
>>343885487
Monhun games or something. You see dynasty warrior clones still getting called musou. Roguelike. Until recently there were GTA-likes.
No duck whistle, no hunting. Just make do until someone comes up with a sandbox/fps for you.
>>343885848
>games other than halo
i dun understand
>>343870315
Just fuck off ACfag. You were already told how shit and wrong you were in the previous thread. Have you even TRIED DaS with a controller yet?
>>343885125
>if one person becomes champion with a hitbox then suddenly it'll be adored
actually, they'll probably try to ban it if it ever happens
I wonder if you can still do infinite Gama Waves on UMVC3 with one
>>343881085
This. 360 controller is my least favorite. I can play with any controller just fine, but the 360 controller looks retarded. If it wasnt the only one with native windows support I wouldnt own one ever. The asymmetrical sticks dont bother me as far as performance, but the shitty "Buttons" RB and LB and the shitty D-Pad make it a fucking joke. the XBone fixed the buttons, but the D-Pad is still far from the DS4. Plus theres the added fact that XBox controllers are such bricks you can literally use them to murder someone.
>>343885652
>>343885902
>don't call them hunting games since I personally thinks that refers to a much smaller genre of games that is significantly less popular
>>343886249
For you.
>>343882106
>Sony's dpad is trash in fighting games
Not in based Tekken, you're a faggot street fighter player based on what you said there. PS3/4's D-Pad is a must for Tekken so that it doesnt constantly read diagonals like the trash 360 pad. Enjoy your combos, oh wait, Street Fighter is just press punch and kick to win I forgot.
>>343867353
>Looking around with the right stick
>Not in the primary location
What kind of shitty game do you play?
>>343867353
Except in many games you are usually walking while moving the camera. Having your fingers on both upper sticks still give you access to the upper face button as well as up on the d-pad (if positioned correctly like on the WiiU).
The 360 pad fixes nothing by having that layout.
