>you got a degree in games design
No I didn't.
>you got a degree in being an idea guy
>>343866217
underrated
>you got a degree
>you
I have a feeling that they dont actually hire people with design degrees but instead hire randoms off the street
>oh baby
>you
>you got what i need
who else fell for the STEM meme?
>>343866112
>he got a degree in games design
>>343866434
They hire whoever has the nicest portfolio showing off what they've actually done. 10 years of school is useless if your portfolio is still crap.
>>343866442
>but you say he just a friend
>but you say he just a friend
>>343866504
I did. Fuck, I was told engineer was insta-job.
>>343866504
t. Arts/Humanities major
>>343866112
>tfw good at designing gameplay but too lazy to make use of it
Do these things actually help you or do people really ask for them if you were to apply for a company?
I've never heard of anyone getting into a video game company with a degree and a portfolio
>xe got a degree in sociology
>You saved anime
>degree in games design
>doesn't know how to code
>doesn't know how to art
I have a friend that did this
I have a bachelors in primary Education.
Probably make more money if I shat out some game maker garbage and sold it as an 'interactive experience' and tout my character designs as being progressive and artsy.
>>343866112
>he graduated high school
lol
How does it feel to be literally retarded?
How's Project Management for an IT business?
I'm doing a finance degree and retaining like none of this.
>>343866623
I want to protect that smile.
>tfw history degree
>>343867567
With the ease in accessibility of great resources on the Internet, I think companies focus on finding raw talent and drive, rather than someone who needs to be taught.
>>343867567
Honestly, not really. The way I see it the following is the most likely to affect your chance of getting a job from most likely to least:
>luck
>knowing someone who know's someone
>portfolio
>experience
>
>
>degree
>>343867567
Video game companies don't hire people with 'video game degrees'. They higher coders, artists, writers, account managers, lawyers, PR companies, sound engineers, platform engineers, hardware engineers and consultants. But not 23 year olds with a 'degree' in 'Video game design' from some second rate community college or TAFE.
>>343866112
>tfw there's a cute as fuck girl at my work who's studying game design
I'm still too scared to ask if she likes Pathologic
>>343867167
>OH BA-BYYYY YOU
>>343866112
>Knew faggot who's studying game design degree
>He's still updating his Minecraft mod with the rest of his useless friends
>I randomly got a writing job for a game studio with zero qualifications
>>343867567
they hire people with good portfolios
most game schools are a scam
>>343867870
So it's pretty much a scam to get kids to spend 10,000 dollars on a useless degree? Thought so, my friend has a "game design" degree and she's been out of a job for a few years now.
>>343867870
This. No one wants to hire a visionary. The REASON they're hiring is because someone's already HAD vision.
They hire to help create that vision the way THEY want. They want your skill not your ideas.
Which is why video game degrees are such bullshit. They essentially teach you how to phrase good ideas.
>>343867991
>GOT WHAT I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
>>343868071
It's a meme-degree. Yes. Kinda' like gender studies, yet somehow you retain less dignity.
tfw any degree costs 10000 dollars
>>343868160
Unfortunately, you can get jobs with a gender studies major.
>teachers
>advisors
>motivational speakers
Awful.
>>343866623
He has such a kind laugh
>>343868253
Exactly. There's almost, ALMOST, dignity in a gender studies degree because if you're preachy enough you can sucker, guilt and bully your way into someone hiring you.
Having gender study majors looks great in government statistics.
Get a degree in video game design and you may as well apply to become the Sandwich Artist you were always ment to be.
>>343868220
AMERICA
>>343866504
I'm an Electrical Engineer and Ican't find a job anywhere.
>have a B.S. in Psychology
>didn't take one single Clinical course during my undergrad
Feels good man.
>starting Master's in August
>worried over comprehension/memory issues interfering with my ability to succeed
Feels bad man.
>>343868220
>10,000
mine's about 50,000all on the govt dole though, so I actually got paid to get it :^)
>>343867387
>>343868981
What was y'alls GPA? Are you guys not willing to move or something? No internships?
>>343867624
JUSTICE
>>343869120
>he thinks jobs give a shit about GPA
>>343866112
>tfw English major
>>343869120
The market is insanely oversaturated.
>>343866112
Yes, I did.
I also got to meet Kojima and Suda51 because of this. :)
>>343869312
>he doesn't know that the bigger/better companies don't have at least a 3.0 GPA requirement, some having a 3.5 GPA requirement
>>343869312
You're both right, Jobs usually don't if you have the experience. But internships generally do if it's a competitive field.
>you got a degree in biology
>>343869623
>But internships generally do if it's a competitive field.
And then they make you work for free.
>>343869394
You will get a job. Unless you're not teaching certified.
>>343868071
They're usually set up by secondary educational institutions like 'Evocca college' in Australia, and the equivalent in other countries. You see them advertise on facebook and shit sometimes. They capture high-school drop outs and stupid people with promises of careers in Video games and often give a 'free gaming laptop'. I have a few friends who have alienware laptops because of shit like this, but they only get to keep them so long as they're enrolled. So they're paying more for the laptop in the long run anyway.
They're dodgy and useless. Absolutely fucking retarded. Go to university if you want to actually make something of your life.
>You got a degree in Mathematics
>It is not $500k starting
>>343869672
>you didn't get a degree in anything
28 years old and I'm just stocking shelves. At least it's at night so I don't have to deal with anybody.
>>343869863
What about a "gaming" degree from an actual university?
>>343869914
>having high standards
wew lad you gotta work your way up, kiddo
>>343869107
Mines 50k for the entire 4 years. Except I don't have to pay anything for it upfront, and I actually get 16 thousand per year as 'Student Allowance'.
Australia is cool.
>>343867970
She has a dick, dude.
>have a friend who has a game design degree
>constantly claims he's an expert
>never shows us anything
>tease him and ask why he's still working a 9-5 retail job to play back the money he lost on the degree
>>343869974
Same thing. Although if it's a 4 year degree they might actually teach practical skills. But you're still better off focusing on one particular field, like coding, writing or even fucking art (3d modeling, graphic design etc).
>>343869914
Bachelor of Education here45k starting, 60k with 10 years experience in a private school. ;-;
i wanna do a psychology degree and have crazies pay me to talk to them and work out their issues
>>343869723
What's funny is the less you get paid the harder you have to work.
>Unpaid internship
>Expected to work 50-60 hours
>>343870210
Do you have any experience with mental disorder or unfortunate, irregular events during life? If not then please do not go into Clinical with the purpose of becoming a counselor/therapist/etc.
>>343870201
At least it's not social work
>Must have Masters
>Starts at 35k
>>343869672
>biology
Meme.
>>343870201
That sounds like ass
I know they need to be wary of hiring only people interested for the money, but I feel like they also drive away a lot of good people who would otherwise be interested
Though I guess that latter point is something employers are all good at
>>343870129
I wanna get into programming, but the closest four-year degree my future school has is called "Digital Simulation and Gaming." One of the professors has already advised me to pursue this degree even if gaming isn't necessarily my focus.
I hope I make it, bros.
>>343870246
This
Fuck I want to reroll my life.
>You got a criminal justice degree
>Making bank with a BA as a paralegal
>>343870460
Programming is meaningless in college. Most employers will see it as a weakness that you needed to go to college to learn it.
I'm dead serious, the company my brother works at declined applicants WITH degrees if their portfolios weren't filled with independent work.
Fuck college. Get coding.
>>343870386
The money definitely drives away people who don't have a passion for teaching.
I myself value education highly, and love working with children. I have career aspirations further than being a year 4 teacher forever. I'll eventually work my way up to principal, then district/regional education department work - and then one day, after many many many years of hard work and further education either teach Education at University degree levels or work for the ministry of Education.
I love my job though.
iam gonna get that degree in hystory
I'm an employed career councilor. Ask me anything Reddit.
>>343870460
>>343870602 knows what he's talking about
>>343866112
>Getting a games design degree
>>343870460
Do it. If you want to learn programming and coding, do it, go for it, follow your dreams. Learn and learn and learn until you want to die, and then keep learning. College/University is hard, and its draining, and you'll want to quit when you're finishing an assignment overnight for the 50th time, but keep at it.
Even if what this guy says (>>343870602) is true, do it. You go to Uni/College for personal fulfillment and knowledge. If employees don't hire people with degrees, then just say you don't have one. But I personally think this guy is full of fucking shit. A degree or bachelors shows you have the work ethic to start something hard and see it through.
Go for gold man, and don't stop at bronze or silver.
>>343870829
JUSTICE
>>343870602
I don't think I have the discipline to teach myself. I'm depressed as fuck and think about killing myself pretty much every day. I'm not even that passionate about programming; it just seemed relatively laid-back.
I don't know what the fuck to do with myself.
>>343870870
Thanks for the encouragement, anon.
You got a degree in international bussiness
>>343870870
Except the software development industry doesn't work as others do. It's not about your education, it's about your skill.
Sure you can lie and say you don't have a degree, but if you're gonna' do that, why bother getting one?
Write an application, get a few friends together and write and app with them. See if you can't integrate some formal design methodology and it'll shine a thousand times brighter than any degree ever will.
I downright fucking guarantee it >>343870927.
College for programming is a waste of time, money and might leave you in a WORSE position for an employer than if you didn't go.
>>343870602
>>343870773
>Programming is meaningless in college
I feel like this is due to all those meme graduates who can't even do Fizzbuzz. When I was interviewing around, a lot and I mean A LOT of interviewers kept remarking how I was doing things that other candidates had no hope in and I wasn't just sure if they were buttering me up but after being in it for awhile I can see it may not have been a complete lie.
But going through a respectable curriculuum either in-school or on your own will help you in the long-term. Some red flags are if you don't have a rigorous first course where the instructor bothers you to hell and back about signatures, concise expresiveness and lambdas.
>>343869074
Samefag here. One of my first courses in the Fall is Stats and, as I only took one basic Stats course during my undergrad while not remembering shit from it, could any of you niggas recommend me any decent places where I can begin studying?
I have https://www.openintro.org/stat/ bookmarked that a buddy told me about a while ago but I figure it can't hurt to ask for other suggestions as well. The more basic and simple that it explains things, the better. I'm practically an unintelligent five-year-old when it comes to this.
>>343871030
business*
Why can't I spell tonight?
>>343866112
Got a degree and masters in psychology and starting a career in hr. Its pretty comfy.
>Did degree in games design
>Got super into concept art Design
>Did the entire classes Concept art for their "games"
>During an outing to a con get really into talking to a former Retro Games concept artist
>Says I'm pretty good
>I make around $1,000 a week sitting on my ass drawing
Feels good man, I only wish I knew a course that let me do literally nothing but conceptual Art Design.
>>343870927
>programming
>laid-back
Oh Anon.
>tfw can't decide between getting a STEM degree (maybe CS), some other easier bachelors degree, or go for something like an associates or apprenticeship
>most any googling about this just brings up "x degrees that make most money" without regard to anything else
Help me /v/.
>Got a degree in gastronomy
feels good man
>Tfw electrical engineering
>Got a full-ride scholarship so even if I don't get a job immediately I've missed out on nothing and still have the ability to do whatever I want while I keep looking
It feels good
>>343870829
JUSTICE
>>343870927
>it just seemed relatively laid-back
You are going into one of the most high-stress jobs in the world. Feeling customers breath down your neck as some code you've never seen before needs to start working in the next hour is one of the most soul-crushing experiences ever.
Hope you thrive under pressure.
>>343871117
why do you want a course if you already have a job?
>>343871240
Isnt gastronomy a pretty shitty career?
>>343871079
I don't know if you're in the US, but I did a fair amount of programming in high school and my university forced me to take 3 semesters of basic computer science anyways because I didn't have class credit for it. There's not much you can do about it in most situations
What degrees are guarantee jobs?
>psychology B.A.
I now teach English in Japan but, I I'm getting very serious into photography, how fucked am I? Anyway for me to slither into something business related?
>>343871345
Because if I could have taken it instead of just games design I would have.
Then again, you will never guess how much money I made off of my games Design degree by creating assets for "idea guys"
It's funny.
>>343871154
>>343871275
You guys are scaring me. I don't know what else I'm good at, if anything. Fuck, I don't even know if I'm good at programming yet.
>>343871275
>programming is one of the most high-stress jobs in the world
your ancedotal evidence might suggest otherwise but that's generally not true
>>343871246
>tfw electrical engineering
>been working at a grocery store for 6 months after being neet post-graduation for 6 months
at least part time I got plenty of time for these video games
>>343866112
>didn't get a degree in game design
>got a job as a planner at Squeenix anyway
Weird how life turns out.
>>343870927
>I don't think I have the discipline to teach myself. I'm depressed as fuck and think about killing myself pretty much every day
Im the guy you thanked for encouraging you.
I have problems with depression a lot, and I find over my break periods this gets worse. I've tried to kill myself twice, and i've tried almost every medication a doctor could prescribe. Know what actually helps me though? Staying busy, focused and fixated on a goal. It brings meaning to your days and gives you something to keep your mind on. It's great and a large number of studies have shown that saying busy can help with depression. So, even more reason to go for it man. If you want it, you can do it. Tell yourself everyday you can do it, and you will.
I dropped out of grade 11 and started doing drugs and drinking too much. I actually had to go to rehab when I was 20. But now I have a bachelors degree and a stable career. The power of focused institutionalised Education is mind boggling - and I think it'd do wonders for you. So go for it.
>>343871246
>full-ride scholarship
Are you a wizard?
>>343871232
Just get a BS in chemistry and make shampoo for a living. It's a pretty safe bet.
>>343871232
Don't even bother with an associate, they're a waste of money. Apprenticeship would probably be the least stressful.
>>343871420
People call STEM a meme but honestly it's probably your best bet if you want to actually make decent money. You have to go to every event your uni offers to try to network and land internships though because those are extremely competitive and also the only thing that employers will look at when hiring. I'd be willing to wager that most anons complaining about not being able to find a job don't have at least two internships under their belt, it's a grind for sure and I don't blame them if they just couldn't find the internships to start though
>>343871246
>tfw paid to get my Psychology B.S.
Felt good mang
>>343871482
programming isn't laid back but this guy trying to make it sound hard as hell and school doesn't matter is full of shit
I mean that actually applies to some areas like games programming but developing apps or web programming is easy and cushy as shit if you actually have a brain
>>343871482
If you can do FizzBuzz on you're first try you're better than 90% of college grads and 50% of hired programmers.
>>343870045
That only makes it better.
>>343867616
>>xe got a degree in sociology
>looks at keyboard to see how close the h key is to the x key...
>>343871482
I worked as dev for 7 years for a small company, and I worked my ass off. You might be able to find some comfy gig in a large company and just hide from all responsibility, but I strongly doubt it.
The reality is that it's not easy work, and it will take more time and energy than you think.
>You got a degree in animation AND games design
>>343871364
what do you mean by shitty?
if you are rich you can make your own business and make a restaurant. if not you have to climb to the top, working on shitty places, until you get experience and recognition to handle a kitchen or make a menu for an hotel, or cook on a recognized restaurant, or some other shit
>>343871591
>be math major
>CS department eyes us like a snake in their garden, their internships are unavailable to us
fug
>>343871154
>
writing this from office and i post on 4chan 5/8 of work hours
if you are decent at programming and dont have high ambitions you can just get a simple code monkey job with alright pay and live the dream
>>343871482
It's hard work. If you want something relaxing, go into design or some other pseudo-field.
>>343871556
There's a couple of tricks to it anon that I found out that helped me land it.
Apply to a lesser-known public college far away. I changed from the west to the east coast and it's a university that has 94% in-state. They're pretty much begging for people from anywhere else and the scholarships are easier because they know out of state tuition won't bring anyone in.
Also I had 2250 SAT's and 34 ACT's which won't do much at a private school, but public school's standards are low
I don't have a degree
>>343868114
Settle down, Beavis.
>>343871435
Do you have a steam? I'd love to ask questions about teaching English in Nippon-land
>>343871435
Fellow psych grad here with masters in applied psychology. HR is your best bet. Gotta start at the bottom and get a qual in it but its a pretty natural transition. Got a CIPD cert in it to compliment my studies but not sure how it is in the US
>>343871825
I was CS before I switched. I don't know why you guys are barred, the whole CS major is just implementation of algorithms for the most part as long as you know coding syntax
>>343871801
I think he was trying to make a joke, anon.
>>343871747
>animation
That's actually useful though. You can create something cool and be proud of it. Of course you'll have to slave away for hours and won't be paid much, but at least it's creative.
>>343871867
Probably the smartest person ITT.
>>343869672
>you got a degree in neurobiology
>>343867387
It was not too long ago. Now I'm rotting in a non-engineer job that pays a ton and my engineer friend joined a company and doesn't even do design because it's outsourced to India.
It's not going to stop at just the manufacturing jobs :)
>>343871935
What made you go into HR, anon? I'm starting my Master's in Applied Experimental Psychology soon but I plan to go into psychopathology.
>>343871435
How's teaching english in Japan?
I'm considering signing up for JET after I graduate because the yen is so much stronger than the nzd, so I'll be able to pay off my degree quicker.
>>343866112
I wasted my time AND money. Whoops.
>>343871946
i always suspected we're barred because, and i realize i'm tooting my own horn here, but when math people can program (i.e. there are some math kids who I know who don't get it at all) they blow the less than top CS students away
CS courses certainly help boost my otherwise middling math grades
>>343871586
It did seem like that, I was having trouble finding associates degrees that would lead to good careers/pay. I have a buddy that is working in some tech job without a degree for about 24 bucks an hour, so maybe I should get some certs/tech knowledge/maybe programming and try for those. Need to ask him how he landed that job.
>>343871956
oh...
>>343871482
>Studying CS
>Can't afford to take an extra year
>Am not enthusiastic about it but it's the only thing I know
>Can't switch majors because I'm too far in to start anything else
>Can't tell if I don't like the major or if I'm just too depressed to enjoy anything
I know the feeling anon, it'll be okay we're gonna make it
>>343867870
Actually, a lot of "game design colleges" have programs set up with actual game developers to get people working there into a job.
But the thing is, you'll get a job somewhere at the lowest possible, work there for a few years and then be replaced by someone cheaper who did the exact same thing as you. Then you are fucked because you've got a useless degree.
Why do you think video games these days are so shitty and technologically so poorly made? Most of the people working on them are kids fresh out of some game design school.
Is "programming" lower on the totem-pole than "computer science"? I never understood the difference. Don't you both learn to code anyway?
>>343871482
It's a long road that leads to quite a bit of hard work. But hey, maybe you'll become Bill Gates 2?Probably not.
>major in business
>both useless AND boring
Honestly I respect people who major in shit like games design, because at least they get to have fun while they're spending the most important years of their lives building a CV no employer will take a second look at.
>>343872253
>it'll be okay we're gonna make it
You might, maybe. I'm completely fucked.
>>343871482
Code-monkeys are essentially slaves. Mediocre pay for crazy pressure and workload?
Fuck. That.
>>343871698
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic about people who identify as god knows what and demand from you to use their custom pronouns.
>>343872156
I believe it to be honest. I had my 4 year course load planned out and in order to get the major I needed only 3 math classes beyond calculus. Every other mathematical concept was to be taught in CS classes which I assume teach implementation instead of theory. I made it through two years with just my high school calculus and was nervous whenever actual math problems came up.Then I switched to computer engineering and actually learned more about computers AND math then I would have before
>>343866796
Fucking this. Coming from someone who has a degree in criminal psychology, you are fucked unless you actually have experience to back the degree up. People who act like College instantly leads to big jobs and big money need a wake up slap.
>>343872270
computer science delves into the academics behind it, a real 'computer scientist' does research
undergrad cs is basically a primer
in fact, it's basically "math, with applications to CS"
programming just implies you're writing code which can mean anything, like being a code monkey
honestly I think many of these terms are overloaded
>>343872401
Bruh, business major is great. We order around the slaves and don't do shit aside from "have this ready by Friday". We also get to dress nice as fuck and make more than the actual workers.
>wanted to be a teacher
>the situation in the schools here is absolutely fucking abysmal, teachers have no authority anymore, kids do whatever they want and get away with it
>also, there's a shitload of paperwork to do, more time is spent on it than actually teaching
>and your odds of getting a job depends heavily on what subject and years you pick
>tfw ended up pickingpreschool
>>343872270
They're similar in the sense that they both use computers, Computer Science is centered around algorithms and theory. Depending on the school you can not even do programming classes in the comp sci course.
>>343872028
For me here in Ireland a PHD is a necessity to become a clinical Psych and that is 4 years of extra study. That would make me 31 before I got a proper job or even started a career. So I felt I would use those years insteas to get on my feet and HR is the most natural transition from psychology. That and its one thing for Paddy coming in screaming that Larry stole his office teddy or a legal dispute and quite another having people coming to you over very personal and very emotional problems.
>>343866112
I'll do you one better, anon
>you got a degree in digital media / broadcasting
>>343872401
>major in business
Isn't the idea with that to take some of the knowledge you learned in school and apply it towards your entrepreneurship?
1/2
>>343872502
Oh, thanks, that's a good explanation. So a computer scientist is then a person more suited to the theoretical side of computers, while a programmer is essentially a guy who speaks a few weird robot-languages and does that well enough to translate between man and machine?
>>343872538Great choice, middle/high school kids are the worst to deal with
>>343871435
>fellow B.A. in Psychology
>also living in Japan like I am
Sup fellow expat, how's the English teaching? I've never done it so I wouldn't know. You live in Buttfuck nowhere?
>live outside the US
>my STEM degree actually means something
I'm about 50k in student loans and have a year left of uni.I have no experience or portfolio aswell. Fuck I want off this ride. Whats the quickest way to get a decent paying job/experience or am I ultra fucked?Fell for the STEM meme. Software Engineering.
>>343871482
any job has it's bad moments. I'm doing a neurobiology PhD, you don't know how much it can be shit when after several experiments your dataset is not-significative and your PI asks you to show results at the lab meeting.
But sometimes it's just fulfilling and it is what I like doing.
Try to find your own way
>>343866504
Chemistry
making bank straight outta college and secure in the knowledge that I can make meth if the economy tanks or whatever.
I might do it just to deal with my CRIPPLING student loan debt;__;
>about to start getting into engineering and work my way into maritime engineering major
I literally have no idea what I'm going into and flipped a coin for this choice.
>>343870829
JUSTICE
>>343872481
>People who act like College instantly leads to big jobs and big money need a wake up slap.
I got a job as soon as I got out of college. and im earning aroun $200 a week though
>>343872681Hope you interview incredibly well.
>>343872181
You really only need a portfolio of work to show that you're competent. Certs do help but having a body of work will make the biggest impact.
>>343872538
>mfw I just landed a job as a substitute english (ESL) schoolteacher
I have no fucking idea what to do and I'm absolutely terrified.
>>343872604
>>343872701
That's actually some good advice.
>>343872625
Yeah, I've heard that too. When I took a course in history (purely out of personal interest) a guy that had done temp work at a high school advised me: "Whatever you do, don't pick high school. They'll suck out your will to live."
Pitty, I kinda wanted to teach history but I also value my sanity.
yall wanna pay my student loan? ill trade you infinite beejays
>>343872810
>$200 a week
So you are agreeing with this guy?
>>343872898
QT?
>>343870829
JUSTICE
>>343872810
>$200/week
>big money
>anecdotal account disproves a rule
Why am I even replying
>>343872743
You honestly should.
The manufacturers of meth almost never get prosecuted, and even if they do threaten you with prosecution you can just claim you were threatened by a dealer/distributor.
Even small amounts would help you out a lot.I manufactured molly and acquired LSD to pay for my entire chemistry education.
> tfw fell for the game design degree meme
I want to reroll my life.
>>343872859
TRT can be great. Apply as a TRT to every single school you possibly can, and with a good track record could actually make a stable career out of substitute work.
Why are you terrified? You have a bachelors in Education right? You in theory know what you're doing yeah?
>Post yfw you fell for the University meme.
I should have just worked at publix or some shit after highschool and saved money.
>>343872681
Do you work on anything in your spare time?
>tfw studying game design for years
>25 years old
>almost done
>have no idea what I'm going to do after school
>regret everything
>I'm in too deep and will never find a meaningful job
>>343872859
Do you remember substitutes in school? You'll probably be able to outpace those fine.
Also it's ESL so those classes don't even reflect on the teacher anyways since every student is at such different levels and coming from a dozen different linguistic backgrounds.
I'm sure it's something you can improve over time, don't worry about it
>>343872681
>I'm about 50k in student loans and have a year left of uni.I have no experience or portfolio aswell.
Me too but I'll only be 20k.
>Whats the quickest way to get a decent paying job/experience or am I ultra fucked?
Sit on a driver's license for two years, get the necessary license and become a trucker.
>Fell for the STEM meme. Software Engineering.
Computer Science. Boy do I love politicians who accept bribes from tech companies so they can import chang and pajeet to pay them peanuts.
>That feel when you're an accountant but you have no idea how your life lead to this
Accounting is one of those jobs no kid wants to be when they are older. If you ask any accountant how they got to be an accountant, none of them will know. It just kind of happens and they never really planned for it.
Man accounting is so shit. You turn off every part of your brain except the part that can handle (mostly simple) numbers and do useless shit all day. Accountants have no souls because accounting is the sort of job that destroys souls.
On the upside accounting goes all the way up and you can get paid really well if you get into a big company and work your way up. On the downside by the time this happens you'll be a shell of a man waiting for your death.
>>343872960
nothing a blindfold cant help with.
>>343873043
>25 years old
How did it take you that long to finish?
>you got a degree in maths
Should have done engineering.
>>343872646
nah I live in nice city in 広島県 (I typed where I live in kanji so the other baka gaijins won't be able to tell), teaching English is nice if you love kids, I'm able to save up a lot of money with my low rent so I'm happy I'm not in Tokyo
>>343872093
it's tight, I'm in JET
>>343871935
thx, I'd love to couple this with marketing though in some way, seems like I'd be much better at that, thank you for your advice sir
>>343871898
pdgrizzles
>>343872535
It's great for people who study something useful like engineering, get some years of work experience, and then go back for an MBA. Or people who study at a super prestigious university and build up a good network. I'm neither.
>>343872558
That's one path you can take, but you'd probably be better off getting a job out of high school to save up some money to finance your idea, and just pick up an accounting textbook for that little bit you'd be missing by not getting a business major.
>>343873043
>tfw 25 years old and haven't even started uni
I'll die old, broke, alone and with no achievements
>>343872538
What country are you from?
Im a registered teacher in Australia and work here is pretty stable and good. Contracted work per semester is fairly easy to come by and full time work can be given to you in as little as one semester if you prove yourself.
Paper work comes with the job though. Don't become a teacher unless you're prepared to face a mountain of work at all times. It's not like people say, you don't get weekends and holidays off with the kids, you're working your ass off at all times, weather that be in building your lesson plans, creating ILPs or ELPs, creating reports for the department of education, reports for your principal, grading work, attending meetings, yard duty etc etc.
its hard work man, don't be fooled into thinking it's a regular 9-5.
>>343873000
>>343873043
>Friend studying game design at a private school
>Took out 100k in money he doesn't have in loans
>I warned him against it for years
>All I can do is wish him the best and hope it doesn't flop and bring his depression back while his life is shit.
I don't know what to do anymore.
>>343872991
Retard.
>>343872931
Semi-retard.
>>343873120
>On the downside by the time this happens you'll be a shell of a man waiting for your death.
I'm already there anon. Might as well make some money at the same time.
>>343872995
I'm actually really interested in organic synthesis. so making that stuff would be interesting even if I dumped it down the sink after or whatever.
My problem is not having any connections in that world. I live in the ghetto so I could sell it myself but
1) Who'd trust to buy drugs from a strange white guy
2) Said pudgy white dude would look suspicious "posted up" somewhere around here
>>343872604
>>343872701
is this kodomo no jikan?
>>343873023
Fuck. If I could go back and tell myself that chemistry gets real boring real fast, you won't actually make much friends and it would be better to just get a trade skill I would.
But im stuck in this hell now, gone too far to turn back and get nothing. At least I won't be in crippling debt after
>you will never have the chance to be in high school again and take it seriously this time
Kill me.
I win around $700 a week.
guess my job /v/
>>343873151
Not him,but it happens more then you know. Alot of kids don't know what they want to do and the first 1 or 2 is often the rocky phase. But then we have people that just fuckin useless like this fuckboy I know that is 29 and still in college.
asuho an slut
>>343866796
How do you gain experience if companies only hire based on experience?
>>343873000
Just do what every other loser does.
Start a youtube channel dedicated to btfo'ing feminists
>>343873164
grass is always greener anon
i have a literal honors student friend who is still looking for work
despite our research experience, our
>no internship experience
kills us
>>343870829
Is this Inferno Cop?
>You have a degree in the arts
Not even im that stupid
>wanted to be an archaeologist when I was a kid
>somehow ended up in game design
What have I done to my life?
>>343873043
If you're 25 years old and want to get into games and you haven't made significant progress on your own work outside of school then what the fuck are you doing
>>343873112
>Computer science
>Started in high school, best in my class then but probably because nobody else gave a shit
>Go to uni with great grades
>My major is 80% international students who refuse to speak english and have had programming since they were much younger as a core school class
I hate how slow-paced the american education system is. In my home town they removed a required test from the graduation requirements because "only" 93% of students were able to pass it. I just want to be on par with all the gooks
>>343873151
Not everyone goes straight into university after high school.
>>343873043
Do you actually like what you're studying?
What can you do, what do you WANT to do?
Work on a portfolio showing these things, do not give up.
>>343873449
Do shit in your spare time.
>>343873176
I guess I that's better than most JETs.
Theres a reason why all the inaka jets take weekend trips to Tokyo, let me tell you. I work in Shinjuku and I have no plans of going home.
>>343873449
Companies will often say they want X years of experience, or Y skill, but that's just because they want to weed out people who aren't confident. You'd be surprised what you can get if you just apply.
No Quantity Surveyors here?
>you got a law degree
Just fucking kill me now
>>343872093
Not him but it's pretty easy. Higher levels of education is obviously harder but I do just fine with Junor high. I guess it depends on where you go too, but no prestigious place will probably hire you you're back by an English degree. The kids are friendly, and you don't really have to do that much. At least compared some other professions. I ended up in Osaka too, which everything tastes delicious. Pay could be better, but way better compared to my homeland.
>>343866504
I am in electrical engineering and got a job roght out of school. Most other people in STEM are somewhere on the spectrum so just being able to communicate like a human puts me above most others in the field.
>>343873486
It's his boss
>>343873176
No problem. Marketing can work as well but it takes a certain personality to break into it, as well as keeping up with day to day trend changes. Marketing CAN work, better than Hr in fact depending. But that depends solely on which area you want to go into. I would talk with people first or do research on it cause again, things may be totally different in the US.
>>343873449
Be persistent. Keep applying and looking for openings.
>>343873402
You could always redo highschool classes online if the grades are all you need...
I just did it at 22. Start in uni in a couple months now.
>>343866112
>you got a degree in liberal arts
>>343871543
Sure thing friendo, and my dad works at nintendo ;^)
>>343873449
Portfolio isn't experience. It's an album of "this is the kind of shit I'd be making for you if you hired me", which you put together in your free time.
>>343873449
work for free
work for less money than your competition
work on shitty places
I had to do 2 years of Stagiaire until i got hired in a real kitchen
>>343873008
>Why are you terrified? You have a bachelors in Education right? You in theory know what you're doing yeah?
Yeaaah, about that...
I don't. They're low on english substitutes and basically gave me the job for being highly qualified in the language. I have zero teaching knowledge or experience.
>>343873062
Thanks, I'll do my best.
>>343869396
Wait a few years. The baby boomers are all dying and retiring now. There's going to be plenty of space in pretty much every field of work soon enough.
>>343866112
>>343871543
It's a scam made by colleges. The industry never made any notion that you needed a degree to get into it, just a portfolio that showed your work because ultimately that's what it comes down to, whether you're competent and creative and can get shit done by wasting hours and hours overtime per week making levels.
I honestly feel sorry for anyone who gets into the game industry. Reminds me of this video back in 2010 about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGar7KC6Wiw
>>343873235
>What country are you from?
The New Caliphate of Sweden.
It's not the paperwork that's the biggest reason for my decision, íts the lack of respect, threats that teachers apperantly face and completet lack of authority teachers have here. And the pay is not very good either.
>Do a course on game development
>Land a job as a game designer in less than a year
>Still here four years later
Can't complain
>>343873427
23 this year and still don't know what to do. All of my interests like Graphic Design and Animation wont net me a job in Australia since there's no demand for it. It's all I know really.
>mfw looking up courses for graphic design
>those fucking prices
If you're into art, anons. Just teach yourself or find an apprenticeship like I did in the field.
>23 years old
>4 more years of studying
just fucking end me
>>343873593
>no prestigious place will probably hire you you're back by an English degree.
No offense, but would you mind clarifying what you meant by this?
>>343870602
>Programming is meaningless in college. Most employers will see it as a weakness that you needed to go to college to learn it.
Please don't listen to this
>>343866112
>letting your major dictate your career.
Literally the definition of a stupid faggot.
You can become a medical doctor with a degree in art, as long as you have a 4.0 GPA, ace the MCATs, and take and ace any additional prerequisite courses you don't have before applying.
Same with Law School...or just...any job, and justify how your degree has given you some skills or some talent that is relevant to the duties it entails.
>>343873501
Make games about archeologists
> not majoring in biochemistry
>>343866504
Here, job prospects are no remedy for hating every second of my life I spend working
>>343873989
>You can become a medical doctor with a degree in art
>>343873958
Except that it's completely true.
If you can't learn programming with nothing but a computer, you have nothing worthwhile to show an employer.
If you learn it yourself, you'll stand out as an enthusiast. If you learn it from college, you'll be another copy of the 7000 other people who applied for the job, and you'll be just as shit at is as they will.
>>343866112
>teacher is not even an actual game dev.
what's the point? is this why western games always has boring gameplay?
>>343873635
I probably already have that personality I'll be starting a kickstarter this year and I've just done so much observational research (lol) that I'm pretty sure it will work and it's nothing too outlandish, not asking for tons of moeny or anything, just think it would look sick on a resume, consumers are so fucking formulaic it's so easy with the right language your market positively responds to the most. I also love capitilism morally yay, thx for the solid advice, I have to look into this big time, My English teaching in Japan is probably only good for another 2 years
>>343874051
mah nigga
>>343874129
Let me guess, you don't have an IT degree
>>343873219
you don't need uni, just get off your butt
>>343873023
What does it matter? Just go to publix now
>>343873449
Internships.
>Biotechnology Degree
>works every fucking where
>doesn't like working out of town.
should have gone with computer relate major
>>343873989
>ace the MCATs
good luck with that.
>>343874129
Please don't talk about things you know nothing about.
>>343874103
Yeah, you can.
I knew people in medical programs when I was in it that were art, fashion, accounting. Even the silly bullshit like "kinesiology" that only athletes pretending to be smart take.
>Wanted a degree in game design
>Soon came to the realization that I fucking hate code
>But I have an eye for money
>There's a large amount of drunks in the area
>A large amount of casino goers
>And a burgeoning scene of "nerds" and gamers
>Now aiming to start a barcade
God, I hope this isn't just a worthless dream I'm chasing, but it's better than the actual fucking nothing else I had planned to do with my life.
Maybe I'll just become a franchisee for some fucking branded restaurant if it goes south.
