How the hell do you counter this argument?
You can't.
>>343853696
yeah hes right... blood come out of the asshole as well
it's a lot easier to assume everything is shit until proven otherwise
With experience comes wisdom. We don't have to prove every single thing to an unreasonable degree. Todd Howard may be telling the 100% truth with his next game but the smart thing would be to distrust him based on the evidence we have.
>>343853696
Someone post the edit with the gold bar.
>>343853696
Now we just need a version where the guy has started eating the shit because his friend said it got good 80 hours in
>>343853870
/thread
>>343853696
How come his body stems from the side of his left cheek first, but then it's in the middle?
>>343853696
This isn't an argument. It is a picture of a dude about to take a shit. You know what's going on in this picture.
>>343853870
>>343854025
Well that would still be the act of shitting right? Now its just shitting poopy blood
>thinly veiled food analogy threada
>>343853696
With enough evidence of game play and dev interviews you can make a educated guess on the outcome of a game. There is no counter to researching a product.
>>343853696
>arguing about video games online
lol
>>343854048
Nice, saved
>>343853696
>How do you know the shit is good if isint even out yet?
>>343853696
>fixed
>>343853696
>it's a bunch of drugs smuggled in a condom
>once you get past the shitty opening, you enjoy the hell out of it
>addiction consumes you and you wither away
What game, /v/?
>>343854048
saved
>>343853696
With a cleverly thought-out food analogy.
>>343853696
What argument? I don't understand.
Version where the guy shits out gold but the guy still thinks it's shit when?
requesting the gold bar one
>>343854096
but it's not even out yet
It can be reasonably assumed, from the precedence of the entirety of the human species shitting, that taking a position heavily connected to the action of shitting will result in shit.
True, something else could happen. The guy could squeeze gold bricks for all we know, but that's not exactly a common occurrence, and no reasonable person would think "This guy squatting over my plate is going to drop gold bricks onto it."
If anything, the guy specifically stating "You don't know it's shit!" would just raise even more red flags that he's about to shit, and is just being obnoxious about it.
You don't. If he shits, it's not a big deal. If he squeezes out a few gold bars smuggled from Peru, you're now a lot richer. Why would you take the chance to pass up a fortune?
>>343853696
When that guy shits out a solid gold poo you'll be sorry
>>343854278
Warframe, ASSFAGGOTS, etc. All of them are rough, then good, then horrible but you cant stop
>/v/ compares video games they don't like to the act of consuming human feces
>They think they are making cogent points
If you disagree with me you LITERALLY eat shit.
>Food Analogy
>Shit Analogy
>>343854175
There is literally nothing wrong with a good food analogy.
Why would you counter it? What does it even mean to counter an argument? If you mean, what concerns might one raise to oneself about that argument, then of course the answer is, if you try and actually make no assumptions you'll never be able to get anything done. Everything will have to be a new experience to which you carry no foreknowledge at all, and you'll be stuck choosing basically randomly between all available options.
If you mean, how sould you respond to a shitposter on /v/, the answer is, don't. Though I can't help but feel like I just violated my own statement.
>>343853696
If you've played video games long enough (i.e. didn't start playing them on the Xbox 360) you can deduce patterns and warning signs. It's not hard.
>>343853696
Firstly you should re-evaluate whatever claim you're making to be sure that you're not jumping to conclusions. If you're not, then present the evidence that has lead you to said conclusion. In the image in the OP, anybody who somehow thinks that a naked man, straining as he squats over a dinner plate, isn't about to shit is ignoring a whole heap of evidence that shit is on the horizon.
>>343854434
This. Just step away from the plate (don't get caught up in hype) and check on it once you've heard him finish. If it's gold, you're a rich man and your trust in the plate squatter is raised. If it's a turd, you didn't have someone shit on a plate right in front of you and can still kick the crazy bastard out of your house. In both cases, you can be grabbing your gun while you wait.
>>343854540
You're a good food analogy
Fuck you
>>343854048
Can I save that, anon? I really like that image
>>343853696
>Not posting the superior version.
>>343854342
>>343854391
Fuck, I'm laughing.
90% of everything is shit so it's always a safe assumption.
>>343855186
Are you 14
>>343855071
Fucking kek I miss these /v/. We need more of these.
>>343855425
not an argument
>>343854540
dumb fredposter
>>343853696
>Educated guessing based on gameplay presented so far in trailers/conventions
>Educated guessing based on developer track records.
If a dev like Ninja Theory is coming out with a new game you can assume its shit and most likely be right. Its like saying "How do you know the animation from a Toei studio anime is going to be shit?" Its shit almost every other time so why wouldn't i expect it to be this time?
>>343855425
Not him but being 14 would moreso mean not having discerning tastes enough to differentiate shit from good game. On the contrary most young people play whatever is in front of them without question. This is why you underage 90's born children are shit on so much.
>>343853696
Rule number one of arguing.Ignore them. Don't fight fire with fire, sometimes people just gotta learn shit for themselves and there's nothing you can do to stop them.
>>343855425
Not him but are you? The only people I see gobbling up every triple A game on a regular basis are fucking children and normalfags. At the bare minimum most of the games that are released now lack creativity and do nothing new and should be called what they are, "mediocrity." Literally everybody just plays it safe.
>>343853696
Only shit comes out of a person's butt (hopefully), but lots of things besides shit can come out of a new video game release or anything else.
>>343853696
Wait until the game ACTUALLY COMES OUT
Look it up, see what the general consensus is
????
Profit.
>>343855425
Saying 1 out of 10 games is good is pretty optimistic
>>343855587
you got something to say motherfucker
>>343853696
But this picture is wrong because the whole argument revolves around the idea that the guy in the shitting position is an anagram for a game company. Putting the guy in the shitting position is complete opinion. It could be a man dressed in a butler suit presenting a fancy covered dish, but the customer would be complaining it's going to be shit before it's even revealed
Assuming the person/company releasing the product is shit is opinion
Unless it's Activision or Blizzard
>>343855880
Nah not anymore, video games might as well be someone's asshole.
>>343854982
Me too! Save it, it's all yours my friend :)
>>343853696
>guys I'm losing an argument on reddit help me out
>>343854391
Holy shit that's great anon. 10/10 lol
>>343855965
>>343853881
This. It blew my mind that people were dumb enough to buy Borderlands 2 after Colonial Marines. I still like to rub Battleborn's failure in the faces of people who bought it. That's what they get for supporting corruption.
>>343853696
Games are either good or shit, and that doesnt even take into consideration guilty pleasures and people's subjective opinions.
Shit on the other hand will always be 100% of the time shit, so it isnt really correct to compare the two.
>>343856204
delete this
>>343853881
This.
After so many years, you develop a level of discernment.
>>343855880
The butt represents bad developers or simply red flags about games. If it's from Ubisoft or Bethesda, it's safe to assume they're about to shit on your plate. Same thing about an incoming "early access procedurally generated open world survival" game.
One of these threads huh?
>>343856742
Yep, there's no crime commited. Have a nice one anon.
>>343853696
By explaining that you have come tot he conclusion that it is shit based on previous experiences and occurences that follow this same scenario. If i'm wrong, then there's no harm no foul and I can simply buy it. But if I'm right, then I avoided giving money for an inferior product.
>>343856926
>no crime committed
>Except the whole illegal cloning thing
I hate food analogies. Why not compare to books or movies instead?
Example:
>>343856742
Why a bike? Why not just have him copy a book or a movie? That makes much more sense than a bike.
>>343857135
How is the cloning illegal?
>>343857143
a bike isn't food anon
>>343857143
>Why a bike? Why not just have him copy a book or a movie? That makes much more sense than a bike.
Because /v/ is bad at analogies
>>343854540
Food analogies are like prunes, even the best ones are still pretty bad
>>343857186
Did he get permission to clone the bike?
No?
Then he committed a crime
>>343853696
>shit (noun)
>shit (adjective)
woah.........
>>343857210
i-it's not?I meant to edit the first sentence but forgot
>>343856632
kek
>>343857186
Because its theft of the owner's intellectual property
>>343857302
Why does he need permission to clone the bike?
The bike is still there
>>343853696
All you can do is pretend its retarded.
What gets me is the people who say "you don't know it's gonna be bad" are hypocritcally assuming it's going to be good.
>>343857385
>that last part
>>343857389
It's a retail store, bike wasn't made by the shopkeep
>>343857302
your argument would hold more water and loot less silly if it was possible to clone physical objects
>>343857402
Because its on his property
There's a reason why you aren't allowed to read magazines at a magazine stand without purchasing them first
>>343857537
You actually can. I do it all the time
>>343857537
>you aren't allowed to read magazines at a magazine stand without purchasing them first
do you live in a country that is ruled by sharia law by any chance
>>343853870
Or in some peoples cases... cum.
>>343857385
See you on r/4chan
>88 posts
>no gold bar edit yet
Come on /v/
>>343857816
Been posted twice already you dunce
How can you counter this argument?
>>343857879
not an argument
>>343857250
playing aos with /v/.jpg
>>343857678
Just sweden
>>343858052
sounds pretty horrible. are you not allowed to try on clothes before you buy them either?
>>343857780
Pic is old as fuck you dummy
>>343857879I can do whatever the fuck I want and play whatever the fuck I want
>>343857975
>this was made shortly before those thick pancakes started being posted
Self-fulfilling prophesy
>>343857537
But you can
>>343857617
>>343857678
Missing the point the bike is on his property and is his property
The cloned bike is an exact duplicate and still on his property therefore technically making it his and by taking it the second man has committed theft
>>343858254
So what you're saying is, because I'm not on the game developers' properties when I pirate their games, I'm doing nothing wrong?
Awesome. I'm gonna go pirate something to celebrate.
>>343858254
but it's not his property, the second man made it
if I made my own bike based on a bike I saw in the store, would it still be the store's bike?
>>343858116
>old as fuck
>posts are from 2014
>>343853696
I made this long ago just for this scenario
>>343858337
Pfthahahaha
>>343858254
How about this,nobody cares.
>>343857975
>sequel of this is him walking into a pancake house and bitching about pancakes
>>343858254
>on his property therefore technically making it his
Anon that's not at all how it works. My friend's shoes aren't my property just because he comes into my house.
>>343858421
But he made it on the store owner's property
He literally mad it form the store owner's property
He didn't buy or bring parts to make the bike
He just zapped the bike (with no permission mind you) and rode off in the sunset with something that isn't technically his
>>343854540
hello, dobson
>>343858254
>implying you wouldn't clone physical things if you had the power
fuck off
>>343858254
So if I clone a bike from really far away it's okay?
prove it wrong
How the hell do you counter this argument?
>>343857537
>Because its on his property
so if he torrented the bike from home, it'd be a-okay, right?
>>343858701
Can I have a protip?
>>343858604
It took his cloning powers to make the bike, likely requiring substantial effort. He did nothing with the owner's bike besides use it as a base for his cloned bike that he made.
>>343853696
Because the Vegas odds of someone pushing something out of their butt and it being a shit is extremely high, but the odds of a known shit publisher pushing out a game that's shit is only very high.
>>343858618
I don't understand this, are golden weapons able to be stolen when you kill someone? Permanently?
>>343858337
>plate is in front of him
>not for him
This metaphorical analogy clearly isn't accurate enough to vidya.
Did someone say pancakes?
>>343857302
Not really, unless there's a patent violation.
It'd even be hard to argue trademark infringement if he's not selling the end result.
Copyright doesn't apply to bikes and a retail shop owner wouldn't have any intellectual property rights on the stuff he's selling anyway.
The point I'm making is that the analogy is shit.
>>343858604
What if he bought the bike, took it home, used his cloning powers to make copies of it, and then gave the copies to other people?
not exactly vidya, but here's contributionalso how do i counter the "entitled" argument
>>343858254
What if I take the bike out of his shop and clone it on public property. Oh no, it would probably belong to the government in that scenario... hold on, what if I take the bike onto MY property, clone it, and then bring back the original. And then the shop owner takes my cloned bike, brings it into HIS property, and makes another for himself? Are you fucking retarded or do you just like shitposting?
>>343858751
I guess I'll just have to pre-order.
>>343858205
No it wasn't.
>>343858930
You can just pick up other people weapon's after they die and use them.
>>343859036
Yes it was
>>343859103
No, it wasn't.
>>343858954
THICK
>>343858701
Who's the horned girl on the bench?
>>343854048
>it tastes like shit
>HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT SHIT TASTES LIKE, DO YOU EAT SHIT LOL??
>>343859113
delete this
>>343859113
he doesn't have any hair
>>343858986
It depends how the argument is used. Sometimes consumers can inappropriately feel entitled and expect developers to make unnecessary sacrifices to please the consumer. That doesn't mean consumers have to have no standards, however. You're not entitled to a great game, but companies aren't entitled to have consumers praise them and buy their games if the game isn't up to par.
>>343858954
Anyone know how they got the pancakes to get so thick?
>>343859137
Yes, it was.
Use the archives retard
>>343859238
Eyebrow
>>343859058
but is it permanent
>>343859182
/mlp/-tan
>>343859182
/mlp/-tan
>>343859396
suck my dick nigger I posted it first
>>343859352
Fuck no, that'd be dumb
>>343859352
No, which is what makes it so silly to complain about it.
>>343859270
The archives don't go back that far.
>>343859383
I still don't get the point of this one.
>>343859352
Oh no. You lose the weapon after you die.
>>343858168
Playstation fags.
>>343859113
rrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>343859501
>doesn't know about offsite archives
Sure is summer in here
>>343853696
There needs to be a variant where a guy is clearly cooking something that looks delicious and the customer is still asking why he's shitting on his plate.
I can think of a couple of games at least that reflected this reaction in /v/.
>>343854048
>>343859267
They're not true pancakes.
mandatory
>>343859459
>>343859637
XV-kun pls go
>>343859267
Steam them
>>343859635
The archives don't go back that far.
>>343859458
>cutfags
>superior to unmutilated masterrace
topkok
>>343859690
Did the guy on the right just say "Hi"?
>>343859690
>people who subscribe to Twitch channels for emotes
>>343859772
who the fuck is moot
>>343859818
Yes, they do
>>343858994
>>343858959
>>343858957
>>343858863
>>343858752
>>343858689
>>343858639
>>343858580
>>343858510
Are you guys implying its ok for someone to walk into your house right now and clone something you hold close to your heart and you'd be ok with that?
>go to subway
>order a $5 footlong meatball sub because it's delicious
>the sandwich artist laces it with heroine
>you eat it and get high
>after a while your body craves more
>you go back and order another one
>your body wants more and more
>end up losing all your time and money buying more sandwiches
How do we avoid videogame addiction, /v/?
>>343853696
Here you go OP
>>343859670
>having a bad day and just when in interested in something i learn that something is a sham
>>343859887
HE'S THE LEADER OF THE BUNCH
YOU KNOW HIM WELL
>>343859902
No, that would be trespassing
>>343859902
Yeah?
>>343859902
As long as I get to keep the original and he fucks off promptly, I don't see a problem. Are you implying bike sellers form deep connections to their products?
>>343859902
Yes, I'm not an asshole and don't feel the need to force others to do without something I have to feel superior
>>343859892
No they don't.
>>343859902
>Do I still have it?
Yes
>But they also have it?
And?
>But it's yours
And it still is, because I still have it. If they can copy it and have it too, but I still get to have mine, then I don't see the problem.
>>343859902
He could clone my daughter (if I had one) so long as he cloned a spare for me too.
>>343859902
>Clone my MG of the Zeta C1
>The world gets another quality gunpla
I would be super duper okay with that anon because I don't lose mine
Your analogy is even worse
>>343859902
>Are you guys implying its ok for someone to walk into your house
no, i dont live in a bike store
>>343856280
Borderlands 2 came out like a year before Colonial Marines.
>>343860036
>>343860001
>>343860010
>>343860026
>>343860035
What are you guys going to do if he stops making and selling bikes?
Be aware that other bike retailers and manufacturers may also quit when it happens to them
>>343859948
>I'm going to roll this dice behind this curtain, and it will be a 6
>Dude there's no way it will be a six, dice never land on 6
>You can't say that I haven't even done it yet
>Rolls a 2
>See, dice never land on 6!
>>343853696
Probability. Shit comes out of the colon, and he's assuming a mammalian "I'm about to shit" position.
>>343859902
I already let my friend do that all the time with videogames though. Maybe you should stop posting.
>>343859902
>something you hold close to your heart
I don't think he holds it close to his heart if he's selling it, and for only $80 no less.
>>343860201
I already have my bike, it's not like I can't make my own anyways if that bike craps out.
>>343860201
Considering I don't ride my bike very often, and I haven't replaced it in ten years, I don't really give a fuck about the integrity of the bike seller.
>>343860201
Make more magical bike clones.
>>343853696
Shove a fork up his ass.
>>343860201
Continue using the bike I already cloned for free
>>343860201
Why is someone trying to make a living selling bikes in a world where anyone can clone bikes instantly?
>>343858930
That would be fucking cool but I guess collectors would hoard them
>rare as fuck gold weapons
>if you have it out when you die you forfeit it to your opponent
>>343860464
THIS SUMMER
IN A WORLD WHERE BIKES CAN BE CLONED INSTANTLY
ONE MAN
>>343860379
kek
Why doesn't the bike maker get Denuvo?
>>343860437
I just noticed there's a penis shape in the food in panel 1
>>343860570
>bike now rides like shit
Nice "bike" faggot, all bikes these days suck anyways
>>343860379
Fantastic
>>343860570
>implying they won't eventually release something that lets you use your cloned bike with external parts
>>343856280
You mean Pre-Sequel, right?
>>343860464
More importantly, why is someone trying to make a living in a world where anyone can clone things instantly? Necessities would be infinite, thus not needing to be bought. Anyone who invents, creates, designs, or so on would do so out of desire. Kind of like how mods are made for vidya on PC. Mods can be more complex than the actual game, yet end up being free.
>>343860570
>buy bike
>gets rusty as shit
>can't put oil on it
>breaks
>have to buy a new one
FUCKING GAMESTOP
>>343858214
Every time
>>343853696
>there are people who will defend a product after a shitty trailer is produced
boggles my mind that we are moving away from having opinions.
>>343860796
Suddenly it goes from being a shitty analogy to being paradise.
>>343858957
>infringement with or without monetary gain is subject to prosecution to the fullest extent of the law
Wow it's like you know nothing about copyright laws.
>>343860201
You dirty Pro-Bikers are ruining everything
The clone movement is the only way we can move forward in the word, so shut the fuck up and give me your bike so I can clone it nerd
>>343860874
You're thinking of the Ghostbusters trailer, aren't you?
>>343859308
I hope next Japan time is fun again.
>>343861064
what are you talking about? are you saying you didn't like the ghostbusters trailer? are you a fucking misogynist or something buddy?
>>343861039
The clone movement is against God and the Free Market
>>343853696
>Can see you trying to take a shit
>literally aiming your asshole over my plate, as one would do when taking a shit
>nothing pleasant ever comes out of an asshole ever
You could call it an educated guess.
Now just imagine instead of a person taking a shit, it's a game company telling you the shit they're about to take is their newest game. They promise that it'll be great when it comes out, that you'll love it, but you can see their asshole above your plate and you just know what's coming out isn't going to be good, from past experience with assholes shitting on your plates.
>>343857828
i like this comic
>>343861064
Pretty much.
>>343854048
>WELL YOU ATE IT SO YOU MUST LIKE IT
>>343861107
>see group of normie friends discussing new Ghostbusters movie
>ohboyherewego
>they're actually all in agreement that it looks fucking terrible and is a disgrace to the original
I kind of wonder if anyone besides tumblrinas has high expectations for it.
>>343861606
>hate it because it just looks bad
>UGH YOU'RE SO SEXIST CAN'T HANDLE A SET OF FEMALE GHOSTBUSTERS HUH
I would have still hated it if they did the equivalent and do something like cast Zack Galafianakis as the awkward idiot and Chris Rock as the black guy
>>343859772
Not /v/
>>343861203
Why can't you all see that WE NEED to clone in order to move forward in order to reach a more peaceful bike filled world.
It's always you "Pure" fags that ruin it too, no one else even cares
>>343861652
I feel like the "it gets better after x hours" argument only works if x is 2 hours, tops, and even then that game had better be something with a massive playtime. like an rpg or something.
>>343861107
>>343861274
The only way for this to end good is if the movie fails and/or gets bad reviews and no males decided to talk about it because it'll be a galactic shit show everyone got baited by Sony anyway. They wanted sperg lords to act crazy at the start so people would side against them
>>343861923
>2 hours
>Steam refunds.png
Nowadays, the first 2 hours are great, alright and the rest of the game is an embarrassment in comparison.
>>343861947
Didn't someone at Sony leak their brainstorming process and it's basically just picking three random words and making a story out of them? It's like that fucking South Park episode with the dolphins.
>>343861947
I think it's backfired for them tho with guys like AVGN. Personally I don't why people think it'll be anywhere close to good. Ghostbusters was great not because they busted ghosts with le cool science, it was because Harold Ramis, Bill Murray, and Dan Akroyd had great chemistry and natural humor.
>>343862181
>>343861947
The problem is that all this controversy means that tonnes of people will be going to the theaters just to shit on the movie and Sony still gets to make bank.
>>343862181
They really really REALLY fucked up letting the mass media go off against James without any idea who he is/was.
Not just a massive dick move, it also laid bare their entire "marketing" plan for the movie.
>>343859113
>Hair looks nice
>Is clearly bald
Fucking bitches
>>343861003
Yes, that's correct, for copyright infringement. Which doesn't apply to a bicycle. Trademark infringement is significantly different.
>>343861258
>not arguing that the framerate is likely much better as a result of the graphical changes
>not applauding the decision to put framerate over graphics
That's the real tragedy. Of course the bottom pics look worse.
>>343861258
I really don't get why graphical downgrades still shock people here on /v/. Devs always start high, and then lower settings until the system can handle it smoothly.
>>343862581
your copy of the bike would still have all the logos and trademarks/store price tags. thus it would be classified as copyright infringement.
>>343862374
>>343862380
Yeah, it's pretty unfortunate. But at the same time, I'm holding out hope that it'll at least break even. God forbid it turns a profit and encourages Sony to kill another franchise.
