>Play Persona 4
>Great characters
>Play Persona 3
>Better characters and grills
Why did 4 get worse?
You're entitled to your opinion but I found the girls in 3 to be not that great sans Yukari and Aigis. I mean as characters, I was never into the whole waifuism thing that most of the Persona fandom seems obsessed with. The guys steal the show for me when it comes to the P3 cast.
>>343852087
Mitsuru is not for raping. Mitsuru is for drug addled mindbreak sex in a love hotel because theres no other way for her to release
Chie and Yukiko are like the Rosencrantz and Guildenstern of Persona. They're virtually interchangeable and just "there". Naoto's entire gimmick is not being a girl. That's how shit she is.
Rise is pure Japanese romance fantasy where some slutty popular idol just happens to come to you're town falls in love with you. But she's still the only decent character by a landslide by elimination.
>>343852087
now play persona 2
>>343852087
Because the P3 cast overall sans Aigis felt less designed as existing to appease a self-insert fantasy. Most everyone you met early on didn't think too much about you beyond being the new guy. You had shit like Junpei being jealous of you. Compare that to 4 where everyone seems like more of an anime archetype that exists to suck your dick nonstop.
>>343854078
I've always been interested in trying the Persona series and didn't know where to pick it up at because of how long the games are. Are they actually story driven or are they for pervs or what? Serious question. Also, is OP a perv?
>>343852087
>play Arena
>best girl
Because it was a quick and lazily done rehash.
They also realized that P3 manage to interest many otaku, so they decided to turn the anime up to eleven to see what happened. And oh surprise, it became a huge hit among otaku and weeabos.
>>343854508
why isn't she in anything else :(
>>343854353
They're story driven with VN bits between dungeon crawling. You have the option of dating the girls and after you date enough you get implied sex if that's enough to make you think it's for degenerates. In 3 it's the same with all of them but 4 gives you the option to friendzone them. You always have the option of not dating anyone.
>>343854353
They're more character and story-driven
Start with Persona 2 Innocent Sin if you want a really great story and characters with fucking trash gameplay, start with Persona 3 FES if you want a pretty good story and characters with servicable gameplay
>>343852087
Felt the same way OP. I'm honestly glad I played 4 first before 3 since I loved the atmosphere way more in 3.
>>343852087
That's backwards, everything but the characters was better in p3
Everyone in p3 is an orphan
That's their defining character trait
Except for bitch ass Yukari who was just coming to terms with becoming as shitty as her mom
>>343854508
>Labrys
>girl
3 had better characterization while 4 had a bunch of lazily done archetypes and cliches.
>>343852087
>4
>great characters
if you call cardboard cutouts who never develop as characters great. kanji, ai, naoto, and rise are the only characters worth a shit and rise is really pushing it.
>>343855139
The only character worth a shit in 3 is FeMC
What were Mitsuru, Yukari and Aigis arc?
They weren't well written at all
>>343855268
You just want to play as a semen demon don't you.
Test
>>343854614
after carefully analyzing persona 3 I've come to the conclusion it was made as a subliminal self help guide for lonely good for nothing nips
>study
>work hard
>you have to get out and try to make friends, at least try to make the first contact
>you can become smarter, more physically fit, and more outgoing with enough practice
>you can get a gf and sex her if you aren't a socially inept asshole
>>343855374
>not fucking akihiko' best friend and his friend's murderer and then friend-zoning akihiko
>not tasting that delicious "oh...ok" that falls out of his lips
>>343852087
4 had like 5 minutes of development for each character of the week in their dungeons and then any other potential development they get is optional and doesn't affect them in the story.
I know maxing S.Links gives gameplay benefits but something about having any potentially interesting development be optional kinda rubs me the wrong way. Plus said benefits are stupidly arranged, like getting a party member's s.link to lv 2 makes it so they'd take a fatal hit for you and that's pretty silly.
P3's cast suffered from everyone having some kind of tragic backstory but at the very least they were made out to be capable on their own rather than needing to orbit Protag to wipe their asses like in p4.
>>343852087
Persona 4 felt more comfy. And being comfy is the most important factor in vidya
>>343855338
mitsuru deals withher dad being kill, inheriting their company, and the possibility of getting stuck in an arranged marriage.
yukari finds out the truth about her dad and that's kind of it, also /u/ undertones with mitsuru.
aigis deals with not being a meatbag and not being able to fuck door-kun.
>>343854508
I honestly like Labrys more than Aigis. Aside from being more attractive, she has a more unique personality as opposed to "emotionless robot girl that learns to love and be a nice girl!"
>>343855338
Mitsuru's was coming to terms with the fact that it's not her fault that her family did really fucked up shit, and that she has to fight for reasons besides redemption
Yukari's was realizing that her dad wasn't a massive dickbag, and wanting to continue what he started
Aigis was the basic thing where she tries to figure out what it means to be alive
>>343855683
Mitsuru doesn't deal with it, she just addresses that she has feelings and then moves on
Incredible
>>343855525
>You're gonna fucking die, don't worry about it
>>343854353
Despite what the fanbase might led you to believe, the romancing elements are really tame and even somewhat lame. It's mostly about teens who live their daily lives, hangout and fight monsters as a secret pastime.
It's story and character driven.
The game is divided between going from day to day sections, deciding how you'll pass your time, with who you'll hang out with, or which skill you'll want to level up. And in my opinion, it is the most interesting aspect P3 & 4.
The other part is spent doing dungeon crawling, and trying to fuse the most useful monsters that you can.
The actual gameplay is casualized from the average megaten game, but it is still enjoyable and engaging.
The game is ok; ranging from passable to maximum comfy if you want a story to inmerse in, and pretty fun if you are interested in taking advantage of the time management aspect while going blind.
I'll just warn you that it is a slow paced game, and it is better played in small chunks of time over several weeks or months.
>>343855338
Mitsuru has a genuinely boring personality, but she goes through some interesting arcs which get developed and concluded in a pretty reasonable way, something that is a fucking godsend in these kind of weeb games.
Yukari is probably the most realistic female character of the bunch. She suffers from being a borderline villain in the Answer, but in the Journey she is pretty alright and works well as the pseudo-heroine.
Aigis is kinda weird. She is just a robot for 80% of the game, but she has a nice S-link which fleshes her out a bit more, and got the best scene in the game thanks to the ending.
Fuuka is just a nice girl. She stops being relevant after she is introduced, but she is still helpful to the team and has a cool albeit slow-paced arc where she becomes best friends with her former bully.
I don't think they're spectacular but they aren't terrible either. Although they're definitely better than anything P4 ever offerered sans Ai and the Dojimas.
>>343852931
Uh sure I agree if that get's me an excuse to post mitsuru
>>343854508
>Not that one maid no one remembers.
Shit taste anon.Nah you're alright, she's adorable.
Two best girls
>>343854508
Is arena even worth playing? I doubt any of my friends would be like "Dude a fighting game based off the weebshit you play!" "Hell yeah! lets go!"
>>343857681
I love me a mitsuru, and yukiko was the least awful of the persona 4 girls for me so I guess you are correct.
>>343857779
No, not really.
It's very fun if you happen to be in a phase of obsession with Persona and it also has some great spritework, but the story is complete, utter irredeemable garbage, and the online community is kinda dead by now.
Elizabeth is very fun to play though, and if you buy it you should main her right away.
>>343858191
That's her loss animation right? Her loss is literally making a sexy pose? Eitherway, how shit is the story? Since that would probably be all I would have if online is dead.
>>343857779
It's surprisingly complex, but nothing that special.
Story is basically "Muh bonds" turned up way past 11 heading into the 90's range, but the gameplay is solid and the music is exactly what you'd expect from Persona. People will definitely think "Anon's playing weebshit again" though.
It does add Sho, who's pretty funny even if he is completely dreadful character-wise.
>>343857586
Pic related for reference.
>>343858397
Her shtick is that since she's super overpowered in the fluff she doesn't take anything seriously.
>>343858191
>but the story is complete, utter irredeemable garbage
Could not agree more.
>"why are you being mean??"
>"you left me with no choice, we must fight!"
>"you're back to normal? are we being TRIIIICCCKKEEDDDD???"
>repeat 50 times
>>343854961
>Everyone in p3 is an orphan
Fuuka has both parents, but they just neglect her and are only interested in her grades.
I NEED YOUR HALP
I NEED YOUR HALP
I NEED YOUR HALP
>>343858538
Ah so that's why they didn't make the p3 mc non canon dlc. He literally would be unstoppable considering the fact he beat her at full strength one on one. Unlike p4 protag who had all his buddies with him against margaret.
Is Elizabeth or Margaret stronger anyway?
>>343858663
YOU DID THIS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plcf8rthXqk
>>343854961
Have you even played P3?
>Yukari just hates her mom
>Fuuka's parents don't give a shit about her but she's still got them
>Junpei never talks about his parents, but it's implied they're alive
>Mitsuru's dad dies, but she's not an orphan at the start
Ken and Shinji are literally the only ones who are orphans.
>Persona 3
>Better characters and grills
Hate P4 all you want but lets not make shit up now.
>>343858723
Maybe Margaret but she really has no motivation to do anything unlike Elizabeth who wants to help door-kun.
>>343858932
And Akihiko broheim
>>343858932
Junpei's dad is a raging alcoholic according to P3P.
>>343858397
Yeah. When in it comes to the real power levels no one can really match her, so her lose animation is just her chilling.
The story of Ultimax is downright depressing over how bad it is. Arena 1 has Labrys' story which is legitimately pretty good, I would even dare to say that it is the best story to come out of P3-4. But that doesn't salvage the rest of the shitshow that consists on the entire cast retelling the same situation from own their flanderized perspective over and over again.
As some anon said, the game has some nice depth to it which will guarantee that you'll have fun for a few hours while you check out all the characters and fight dummies. But other fighting games offer the same thing and they happen to have alive communities.
>>343858663
When you fall, get right back up
I haven't played a game that exemplifies Japan's odd insistence on a depressed outlook on society as well as Persona does. It's mildly disturbing.
In the west, when a creator wants to paint society in a bad light they show corruption, violence, these sorts of things that are normal and humane.
When a japanese creator wants to paint society in a bad light the world is an endless herd of depressed, borderline-suicidal zombies that consider mass extinction a desirable event because it breaks the monotony of life.
Spoopy.
>>343859796
In all honesty if the shit that happened in persona 3 and 4 happened in real life. I think the general people would act the same way as they do in the game.
>>343858663
PERSONAH!
PERSONAH!
PERSONAH!
KEEP YOUR FILTHY HANDS OF MY SISTER!Metis counts as Aigis right?
>>343859530
I'd strike her iron while it's hot
opinions are opinions, but i thought that the best in p3 (akihiko, mitsuru, aigis, shinji) are better than the best in p4 (kanji, naoto, yosuke sometimes), however, the worst in p3 (yukari, junpei, ken) are SO much worse than that of p4 (really only yukiko as far as playables)
>>343860023
>Junpei
>Bad.
Anon that's just ridiculous.
I can understand the rest, but Junpei? He was a legitimately great character.
>>343860002
Id fill her compendium
>>343860023
>junpei
>bad
>>343860023
>Aigis
>Mitsuru
>Better than anything
>>343859981
So you're telling me that If I yell Persona three times in a row, I'm gonna get magical superpowers?
Y'all a bunch of crazy niggers.
>>343860023
Yukiko was bland but she was never as bad as Yosuke.
>apparently in love with a girl who barely ever talks to him
>still apparently in love with her after he learns she only did that much because he was her boss's son and she didn't like him
>inserts himself into almost everything you do
>admits that he's always jealous of you and this never changes
>still thinks he's your equal and is willing to fight you to prove it
>always comes up with some stupid plan to TOTALLY GET SOME CHICKS BRO when you're drowning in pussy
>constantly gives shit to superior Kanji and other party members
>>343860023
Naoto is literally the worst character in the Persona series
Her shtick is being the competent detective but she does absolutely fucking nothing besides get herself kidnapped and repeating what you already figured out 40 minutes ago in her company
>>343860492
Yosuke could have been interesting since he was like one step away from becoming like Adachi, too bad they never bring it up and he's acting like a hypocrite when talking shit about him.
>>343860492
To be fair, Yosuke was the mouthpiece since the protag didn't talk.
>>343860480
Nah, it's a little different than that anon.
>>343860480
How did the Persona 2 characters figure out how to use Personas by the way?
They just acted like they could always do it
>>343860689
Protag doesn't need a mouthpiece since he's just your self-insert. Even in the anime they gave him his own personality.
>>343860138
ehh, i always found him annoying, especially if you play FemC, but i guess i could see some people liking him
>>343860993Mayashowed them how whenthey were kids
>>343861120
Im still disappointed his romance was cut though.
>>343861150
/ss/
>>343861150
Oh I guess I haven't just played far enough into it then
>>343854353
They're about story first, gameplay second, waifus third.
>>343861193
>cut
Is there anything left in the files? I just assumed there never was one because it would fuck up the whole Chidori thing.
>Play Persona
>characters are putrid shit worse than seasonal harem anime
/v/ has absolute shit taste
>>343860492
oh yeah, for sure yosuke has lots bad moments, but imo he has the best moment in the game, being the argument in the hospital. that plus several of his s link scenes (including the cut shit) makes me still think of him as a positive
>>343861120
He was annoying anon, but he was still a good friend.
Believe it, or don't
>>343855429
Fuck off.
>>343861313
There was an entire newgame+ ending scene recorded and still in the files.
>>343860849
This fits so perfectly with the gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLHd4BQIiGwAnd I love it.
>>343854508
Hell fucking yes
>>343861327
Great opinion, now get out.
>>343861364
Stupei, get out.
>>343858643
I've never scene this scene before.
Fuuka is literally me in that scene what the fuck
>>343861579
>opinion
I didn't post one.
>>343861264
You're coming up to the best dungeon in the series soon then.
>>343852931
>implying that doesn't make her even better
>>343861650
As much as you'd like to hear it, your opinions are not facts.
Persona 3 had a slower story in the beginning, but I liked the bros more. Akihiko is best boi.
>>343860480
The story behind that game they play actually has a pretty cool backstory.
It's some legend about three people walking from corner to corner in a dark room tapping each other on the shoulder until they get to the fourth corner, where an unseen presence kept the motion going
>>343861920
Have you played P3P? He has a social link and you get tofriendzone him and go for pure /u/ instead.
4 didn't get worse than 3, rather the tones the games go for is so drastically different that depending on your outlook on the themes, your perception of the characters changes if their good or bad, not actually based on what people see as "better characters"
In 3 the more somber themes plays well the tragic backstory that almost everyone shares, many of the social links highlighting how people deal with their real problems and continue on with their lives. Because this was the first persona game that heavily relied on social relationships that you manipulated, they had to have the social links play a somewhat important role in the story or they imagined players wouldn't bother caring and would only do them for the persona power. However people can also interpret this as whiny, and are only there to provide unnecessary tragedy to an already bleak scenario. Their character development fits well with the story, because almost everyone resolves there issues and finds purpose before the ending, as everyone is in someway related, personally, to the plot .FES ruins this slightly by making door-kun "alive" and making the characters act as almost mockeries of what they at the end of the original game.
4 on the other hand with it's lighter tone, blends well with the idea that these kids issue is personality based and not related to the more heavy "realistic" issues present in the previous game. Of course the many dungeons revolve around these issue as well, their personalities don't inherently have impact on the story. Instead the depth of the characters are explored optionally, and obviously because no one has tragic dead family members or some serious mental issues, their problems are more skin-deep and can come off as non-issues, especially in the story.
These characters all have merits and faults obviously, but your wrong in assuming the characters are better in either game. Its what appeals to you
tl;dr that's your opinion numb nuts
>>343861651
>They all become faglords (Besides best girl)
Where did it all go wrong?
>>343861585
Stupei? That's not english, is it?I don't know where all my Junpei pictures went.
>>343861327
Opinions are much like assholes.
You, friend, are a noxious, shit-smeared asshole. And your opinion stinks, too.
![tumblr_n6z8lnjalv1tsessxo1_500[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tcKaXSG.jpg "tumblr_n6z8lnjalv1tsessxo1_500[1].jpg")
>>343862386
Gotcha, covered senpai.
>>343862386
Here, have a Junpei pic on the house.
>>343861639
it's in the main story, I dunno how you could miss it.I also find Fuuka very relatable
>>343862315
There are some problems with 4 that aren't just opinions. Since character development only takes place in social links which are almost completely separated from the main story characters generally act exactly the same all the time and don't appear to have developed at all no matter where you go in their social link or if you've even touched it at all.
3 doesn't have this problem because social links are tied into the story more and some of them are locked until you hit a certain point.
>>343862687
>>343862698
Cheers guys, much appreciated.
My last Junpei unfortunately, unless you count ones with all the characters or Tartarus Theater.
I just finished Persona 4 recently, and I was pretty shit at it. The whole Persona fusing concept and time management was too much for me.
How does it compare to P3 in terms of difficulty? I heard you can't control your party members directly like in P4.
>>343863257
Oh god anon... if you had a hard time with 4. Prepare your anus. It's gonna get rocked more then ever.
>>343863257
Should have started with 3 first, 4 is easier. Time management is easy, all you need to do is stick to a schedule. You don't need to get balls deep into fusion, all you need to get is the basic concept of smashing two weak personas together to get a better one.
>>343863457
But the only hard part in 3 is (Mild spoilers ahead)the last 1/5th of the last bosses final form.
>>343862814
Because the story doesn't inherently show the characters issue after certain points, it would make sense if their personality wouldn't conflict with their investigation. It's hard to imagine a scenario where their personalities would conflict with the idea of investigating who was throwing people into the TV, rather than p3 where almost everyone had a personal vendetta involved with the main story, so you almost have to know their problems in order to think of them as believable characters.
That's why during p4's social links its moreso about personal strength and dealing with your issues eternally of who you are, accepting your persona, rather than dealing with dramatic issues affecting your life like p3.
again this is a personal taste matter and not some issue of character development. The issues in p3 are external, so their is external development. the issues in p4 are internal, so their is internal development.
>>343863257
To be fair, you hardly should expect to get all the S.Links in your first run through, save that for the next game where your Character Status are Maxed out from the start.
>>343852087
The way I see it is theres few good characters of 3, but the best of 3 is better than the best of 4, Aigis, Junpei, Fuuka andShinjirowere the best, Kanji and Chie are pretty cool
But 4 has less characters I think are fucking dumb and wish were dead like Yukari, Mitsuru and Ken, I mean the only character of 4 I particularly hate was Teddie. Everything else was just Eh, Yukiko, your slightly bothersome, but I dont dislike you
>>343861651
Man, I'd love a grade-school Persona spin-off with kids donning on different masks. They could do all kinds of goofy shit with it.
>>343863856
Please don't call my wife bothersome.
>>343863775
It's not really the way they act during the investigation but the way they act in general. None of the things they go through in their social links which all end in what is supposed to be a life changing revelation are reflected in the way they act at all.
>>343860492
>inserts himself into almost everything you do
>admits that he's always jealous of you and this never changes
>constantly gives shit to superior Kanji and other party members
That's just projection.Yosuke's pretty much the only reason why the case got anywhere near the point to where you could actually go in and prevent deaths So he's kinda more than just the players voice. And we he said he was jealously it was nothing like Junpei's jealousy, just mild envy. Him ripping Kanji is what any realistic teen would have done back then so it make sense and barely even did that
>>343863719
Yeah, but if he had a hard time with 4.
>>343859170
Wait what I don't remember this
>>343863719
TheWorld Balance in the final blockgave me trouble on Hard since I refused to grind and its megidoloan was dealing 300+ damage to my party each turn.
I ended upcheesing it with Odin.
P3FES was my first SMT, though, so I wasn't aware that simply leveling up a few times would lower the almighty damage per round to a more reasonable number.
>>343861327
Back to /a/ mongoloid
>>343864634
It's only in FeMC's social link.
>>343852087
>Play Persona 4
>cringy weebfest, everybody forgets the point that their shadows try to make
>Play Persona 3
>Lots of characters that act like real people with serious conflicts
>>343864759
this
>>343862315
3 deals with self in proti existential terms. 4 deals with self in much more psychological terms. So 3 to 4 is Kierkegaard / Camis to Freud and that guy who researched sex
>>343864217
The problem is assuming that by doing these social links you will majorly affect the way they live, a life changing revelation, but for a kid with mostly social or mentally produced issues, because they have comes to terms with it, wouldn't change them dramatically immediately.
In p3 this makes sense because its such a dramatic and serious problem but in p4 it's more of understanding their personality and trying to become better over time.
The issues they have even aren't that personality changing anyway.
Yosuke is jealous and cocky, over time he tries become more like MC, but realizes being himself is ok aslong as he's happy. Kanji comes to term with accepting his femininity, but still acts tough because that's the way his "persona" is. In the epilogue there is clearly a change. The same thing occurs for the other characters aswell, it's more subtle than what happens to the cast of p3
>>343864759
>p3
>real conflicts
>>343864759
Part of it is setting too. 3 is in a metropolis while 4 is much more weeb, and unlike all other persona games is set in bumfuck nowhere
>>343864985
>Yosuke is jealous and cocky, over time he tries become more like MC, but realizes being himself is ok aslong as he's happy. Kanji comes to term with accepting his femininity, but still acts tough because that's the way his "persona" is.
It seems like you're trying to interpret their not changing as some kind of story element when it really isn't. You can skip a lot of their social links and as far as main plot of the game is concerned there's little if any difference. It might as well not have happened. The epilogue was also done several years after the original game.
Fuuka a shit
>>343865589
You can also not do their social links and the epilogue won't change.
INEVERFELTLIKE
>>343866893
The persona 3 soundtrack really stuck to me. While the 4 one is nice, but I found it grating after awhile, maybe because it felt louder?
>>343864985
They are not just kids hanging out and going for lunch. These characters are going through life changing events where they meet, befriend and accept new persons that might be completely different to them, they confront their biggest fears in front of complete strangers, they save the world and are fully aware that they are alone in this task since no adult or outside force is gonna help them, and they go through many other problems.
Lesser things than these change real life people, so I think it's only fair that the writters didn't just hide and forget about the character development in a game that was all about being honest to yourself and growing up as a person.
I guess this is ok if you only expected fanservice, comfy-happy fun times and anime tits, but at some point Atlus expected this game to be taken seriously, so it deserves to be judged accordingly.
>>343864052
Reminder that Yukiko got knocked-up by a japanese businessman sometime before the epilogue, instantly aged 20 years, and anyone who romanced her must work to help raise the son of another man.
>>343867794
Lmfao is this true? I'm not playing spinoff garbage to find out.
>>343867884No, but her redesign really gives that impression.
>>343864759
This has to be bait.
>>343869627
I know right they are both cringey weebfestsAnd I love them both
>>343869705
>cringey weebfests
Shameless, to use these 2 words unironically and actually post it.
>>343869889
>Implying there was no irony in my post
They are videogames. I don't care what a game is. I don't judge it as "weeb" or "cringe" I judge it whether it is a fun game or not and to hell with everyone else.
Persona 4 is boring as fuck because all the side characters lives revolve around the main character, if this was real all those people would be considered super pathetic.
>>343870454
Naoto was probably the closest to subverting this... you have to work a bit harder for her to start sucking your dick.
>>343852087
Because the girls, and party in general, had more purpose and character development in the storyline in 3.
In 4 took all the character development and tossed it into the Social links which fucked over their purpose in the story once you finished their dungeon.
>>343852087
>Great characters
It always amazes me how people who barely read any book or watched any movie in their life would be willing to put up with a game as slow and verbose as Persona.
>>343870978
I'm not even sure what you're trying to imply here
>>343871186
Looks like he's saying that the games have bad pacing. Sounds accurate to me.
>>343871393
I enjoyed it, a nice slow paced story is what I enjoy from time to time.
>>343871393
It's not like books don't have bad pacing sometimes or movies.
Though I think he's suggesting more along the lines of, if you can take the time to sit and watch/listen to a movie, or read through a standard novel. Then you should be able to stickw ith a story heavy game like persona.
Jrpgs in general don't sit well with the generation that worries more abuot their kill streaks.
>>343852087
P3 is full of drama queens and dumbasses. Only character worth something is Junpei. The rest is full of bitches, waifu baits and stupid male characters. P4 was maybe scoobi-doo tier but it was way more enjoyable character wise. P3 has mostly the story going for it.
>>343852087
Mitsuru = cocaine / amphetamines + sex
Yukari = Bondage and Light S & M, dripping hot wax on her
Fuuka = that japanese fetish where she lies naked with sushi all over her and fucking her after you finish eating
Aegis = compiling your own linux distro
These are the romantic ends for each P3 girl, yes?
>>343855525
Careful analysis? I thought that was pretty obvious.
>>343864732
I think it's also passively mentioned a few times in FES. I don't remember exactly where but I've only played FES and I know his father was an alchoholic and they fought or something.
>>343858723
Margaret mentions here and there that she used to fight Elizabeth and never lost.
>>343872416
>P4 was maybe scoobi-doo tier but it was way more enjoyable character wise
Oh please, even Scooby Doo had more complex characters than P4. Fucking harem LN anime has more complex characters
>>343873510
absolutely
The P5 cast better be better than all of them.
>>343855525
i just want to surf on the internet all day and cum on the robot girl.
Does NG+ in 3 let you keep items or is it only gear? Mostly wondering if my nihil items from the golden hands will remain even if I don't make weapons out of them.
>>343857586
>>343858462
If she has a Persona, hers will be Atalanta
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atalanta
>>343876135
>>343879807
>they didn't translate it as lets positive thinking!
this irritates me every time desu
>>343854078
Yeah I honestly don't like that about 4. The Slinks are where it's most noticable. In 3, you have Slinks like the Devil where you're being blatantly ripped off and made a fool of, or Emperor where you have to say what Hidetoshi wants to hear.
In 4, almost every S Link boils down to some first world problem, and ends with 'Thanks to you anon-kun, I was able to pull through!'.
This is why I recommend people play P4 first, then P3.
Some say 'you can't go from controlling your party members to just giving them instructions', but I went from 4 to 3 and it only bothered me for the first block of Tartarus
Kanami is unironically one of my favorite characters.
I really enjoyed her manner of speaking. "I just HAVE to do this!" etc.
>tfw no persona
>tfw no Teddie glasses
>tfw no chance for future apperances
>tfw nodoujins
>>343880832
Yeah, easily the best dub voice in P4D. Shame about that one other dub voice in that same game.
I really like these games, but I'm not a weeb, so all the tropes are basically new to me.
It's like I get to enjoy them for what they are, while most of /v/ is all self-conscious about it.
I liked the girls in P4, aside from Yukiko who is the worst girl in the series, and didn't like the guys, aside from Kanji. In P3 all the girls were boring but I didn't hate any and the only guy I disliked was Ken, the others were great.
>>343881551
>liking persona series
>not a weeb
Just pick one.
The series, especially 4 is more like a Japanese culture/social life simulator and liking it unconsciously makes you a weeaboo.
Even their localization team admits that they should've removed more of Japanese elements from the game for the sales in the west.
>>343884461
Let's hope the same people who think removing things from games like that aren't localizing P5.
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