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Don't worry guys, the Q&A will fix and explain everything!
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Reminder that Diana is a drunk slut.
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Smut thread >>>/aco/686648
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Life is simply complex, don't you think?
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>>343831571
>Nope. It will take ZE4 will untangle it all.
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Zero was good until the end.
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>>343831917
I honestly don't think I would have fucked Diana after that

Like shit I might just be petty, but the whole "HEY SLEEP WITH ME IF YOU'RE A REAL MAN" thing would have bothered me too much
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>>343832119
She probably is used to not even need to ask for it.
Stranger probably fuck her when she is busy licking alcohol from the floor.
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>>343831985

Are snails complex?
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Why didn't Akane murder Mira for causing her parent's death again?
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>>343832270
Yes, they cause bad ends to prevent snail extinction.
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>>343832004
I really don't want a 4th game because the nonary games are getting fucking old but it looks like thats our only chance to get answers.
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>>343832301
She's going to let someone else do the dirty work for her in ZE4.
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"Zero Time Dilemma" is an anagram for "Me? I'm Zero. I'm Delta."
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Other games that deal with the Shifting concept? I only found this so far after beating the whole ZE series.

http://quantumbreak.wikia.com/wiki/Shifter
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>>343832663
YU NO
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>>343832452
Another game with classic Nonary rules and exploding contestants would be welcome. The AB game was cool, but the Decision game shat the bed tension-wise.
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>>343832589
no way
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>>>/aco/687376
I ASKED THIS DRAWFAG TO DO PHI PORN AND HE ACTUALLY DID IT THIS ABSOLUTE MADMAN.
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>>343832663
They're usually called sliders.
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>>343831571
I feel like Uchi should take a step away from the direction he went in and just write a continuation. No game needed. Is that so much to ask? No "budget" would be able to hold him back, then.
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Any other media that use the same plot twist?
Mastermind was there the whole time but you just didn't notice it?
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>>343832735
Ok fine if they bring digital roots back and maybe spice things up differently id be down.
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>>343832589
ZERO TIME DILEMMA
MEME TIME LIZARDO
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It tied up most of the loose ends at least. Uchikoshi should just make a visual novel if he wants to tie everything up neatly thought. I don't think I'd want to trudge through more puzzles just to tie up the plot. If he wanted to make a new series with puzzles and plans, I'd be all for it though.
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>>343832837
More like we couldn't notice. Has anyone actually deduced Zero's identity and existence before entering his name at the two decision points?
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Jesus christ the entire twins ending was so surreal and mega fucked up. Just imagining their children starving and then not even having a place to bury them so they just rot in a corner somewhere and then they die too. And besides, isn't Sigma 70 when they're hooking up? Everything about their relationship seems really creepy
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I feel Uchikoshi must have felt like Kojima making MGS4, he just wanted to make something that would make the fans happy without realising that nothing makes a fan happier than good writing, That's why Akane and Junpei marry at the end and the cringeworthy ring scene, and why D Team end up reuniting as a family. The characters of 999 are mentioned because they had no place in this story but it's nice to acknowledge their existence. Even Mira, Eric and Sean have a nice ending for themselves (that makes no fucking sense but whatever).

The way the teams are formed could be seen as fanservice as well. Zero knew about how these characters know each other and yet decided to group them in the 999 group, the VLR group and the newcomers group. Imagine if these teams were mixed and Junpei had to decide about pressing a button that would kill the team Akane is, for example.

I like to think that Delta's motives were actually complex, but for budget reasons they had to cut that entire part. It's sad that the last hour is such a underwhelming clusterfuck, because it doesn't give any of the closure this game really needed.
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>>343833013
I would use the incinerator to group sudoku myself.
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>>343832795
Super terrorist shoves them in another game show, they come out on top, it's revealed the terrorist was preventing something bigger.
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>>343833013
Dr Klim is a lonely old man who loves Diana I don't see anything wrong with how he acted. That D1 ending file is really sad.
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>>343833013
It's not like Diana isn't aware that Sigma is 70
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>>343832452
You assume he wraps up the story in ZE4. I honestly do think that ZE4 will become a reality in 3 years if the ports of 999, VLR and ZTD do well on Steam. The ending of ZTD begs for a 4th game to explain the shit Delta was talking about with the terrorist and all.

However, I wish that Uchikoshi just wrapped it all up in ZTD.
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>>343833095
This shit is starting to get too cyclical.
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>>343833013
And it's bullshit because Carlos 2 will always rescue them.
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>>343833174
I would definitely play a ZE4, but I think ZTD is a fine enough ending to the series as is. Disappointing in some ways, but solid enough wrap up.
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You wouldn't sleep with a drunk and emotionally vulnerable girl who's used to being abused and exploited?

Because I would. Top slut.
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>>343833013
They had a sick bay loaded up with enough anesthetic to keep Carlos from going mad with the pain of losing his arm. Not to mention the sedative in the bracelets needed for the Ambidex portion
I imagine that Sigma and Diana anesthetized their kids for a peaceful death, left them in the healing room on the comfy chairs, and then blew their brains out with the shotgun.
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>>343832589
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>>343833174
>However, I wish that Uchikoshi just wrapped it all up in ZTD.
Agreed. And you know what this was definitely possible if the game wasn't so damn short.
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>>343833384
lost
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>>343833289
https://youtu.be/Nv7GFRkus4g?t=48m40s
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>>343832751
>He got the measurements right
Ace
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>all of a sudden alien technology

What a mess
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>you will never mind hack your waifu
why live?
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I drew a thing, sorry if it's bad.

>>343832751
yeah
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>>343833031
>I like to think that Delta's motives were actually complex, but for budget reasons they had to cut that entire part.
Anon, didn't you see all those end game diary notes? All he had to do was drop some extra Sean/999 ending monologues and he could have covered all the plotholes and given the series a proper send off.
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>>343833693
What if Diana died and phi became her own mother?
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>>343833634
They could have said it was from the future.
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If the team leaders were supposed to make decisions, why was Sean making decisions instead of Q?
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Guys, Delta just wanted prove to his Dad that he could be super cool Zero too. Please don't bully 124 year old man for thinking Mind Hack sounds cool.
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>>343833824
Because they were under the impression that Q couldn't hear or see or make any decision of any real note

They didnt even know if he could fucking speak
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>>343833784
You'd get Futurama edits then.
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>>343833824
Because the ebin and pointless twist needed it.
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>>343833693
that's awesome
could you do phi again, no glasses, in a full nelson anal position?
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>>343833824
uh, didn't you get that Q was pretending to be mute and deaf, no way he could have make decisions in the first place?
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>>343833693
Draw some Diana-Sigma on the time traveling pod.

>>343833784
>her name would be Phi
>her mother would be caled Phi
>she would have a daughter called Phi
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>>343834002
Don't forget that she would have been raised by the 1908 Phi when she arrived in 2008
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I seriously thought he used the virtual reality tech to make him appear to be Gab to them.
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>>343833013
>>343833463
>>343833090
>Implying they didn't just press the button
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>>343834114
They would try be a Phimily
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>implying you don't get mad pussy being that hot
>voiced by sugita, that explains everything
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>>343834180
That'd be a much better twist desu
Plus they're both old as fuck.
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>>343832837
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>>343834274
Akane has a cute smug face.
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>>343834239
>they would truly be a
Fucking typos ruining my shitting humor.
By the way, does anyone have that Carlos edit?
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>>343834274
Carlos can probably fuck the crazy out of Mira if he wasn't such a siscon
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>>343834314
>Ryukishi and Uchikoshi are friends and have done interviews together in the past
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>>343833693
This is pretty good.

How about drawing a 3-way with two Carloses and a girl of your choice? Maybe with some cucking involved?
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>>343834180
Literally no one saw that coming. Not because it was really smart but rather how stupid and absurd all of it is.
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>>343831571
"This will be revealed on the 4th game. Hope you guys look forward to it."
-Uchikoshi
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>>343832301
How do you think she's gonna kill someone who are able to overpower Sigma?
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>>343832837
Aren't you just ruining those media for yourself if you know the twist going in?
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>>343834314
>an autist will never make a 12 hours long video explaining why Uchikoshi is trying to deceive the readers
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>>343834565
>overpower Sigma
It's quite difficult to restrain someone while you're bleeding out from a stab wound
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>>343834592
My motives are complex.
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>>343833013
>And besides, isn't Sigma 70 when they're hooking up?

There's no age limit on consenting adults.
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>>343834565
Her endless supply of knockout gas.
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>>343833824
the whole thing seemed like a shitty twist to me.
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>>343832301
Because the part of the story where she figures this out got cut from the game due to time/budget constraints
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>>343834565
By shooting her face off? Siggy ended up being surprisingly weak.
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>>343832837
Sharin no Kuni has the same twist but it's executed a million times better than in ZTD. When the twist was revealed in ZTD I felt nothing but disappointment.
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Which characters do you want to return for ZE4: Terrorist Edition?
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>>343832452
Interestingly enough, ZTD wasn't a nonary game. It played on our expectations, that each nonary game has 9 participants
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Aren't Clover and Alice still in a deep freeze at the time of ZTD? What's happening to them?
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Anybody got a pic of Diana and Phi hugging
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>>343834784
She might be a rapist but she ain't no villain.
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>>343834854
Ace and Snake
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>>343831571
>K constantly Betrays his pops
This is why Kyle didn't come back
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>>343832983
I noticed a few of his shadows and weird dialogue that referenced him, but I didn't put it together properly
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>>343834854
Snek.
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>>343834784
yea they just introduce a character pretending to be deaf/blind/mute at the reveal because it was necessary to the plot. i was pretty disappointed too.
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>>343832301
She never really got the chance, since C,Q and D team were almost always separated. That kind of disappointed me desu, I was looking forward to some decision games with 6 people involved interacting with each other directly .
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>>343834784
But absolutely everyone knows his sister is there but ignores her, even in a private residence, just because it's the law. It was worse.
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>>343834854
Santa and Snake
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>>343834860
>deep freeze
>What's happening to them?
Nothing? Duh
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>>343833824
Because it's retarded. If Q couldn't make the decision then at least Eric or Mira should have done so, not some literally who? who just appeared there.
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>>343834854
Clover and Sigma's terrorist nephew named Alpha.
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>>343835067
But they were chasing down a terrorist cell or something. I don't remember if it was related to Free the Soul or not though.
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>>343835030
But you as the reader don't. I thought a ghost was following the protagonist ddsu
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>2029
>ZE9 is released
>head to the store 30 days after release to pick up my watch copy released exclusively for the Gameboy Advance
>Fire it up, immediately hit with the puzzle
>Solve it after 6 hours of intense deliberation
>Credits begin to roll
>Please look forward to the next game
> post-game file reveals Akane and Junpei may be alive or dead
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>>343835096
did you play the game? Eric wants to make decisions but Mira wants Sean to make them because she is interested in what a kid will do.
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>>343834854
Would like to see Sigma and Phi actually doing things this time. Carlos is a given, he's a fucking hero of justice.
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>>343832983

I went through the fragments enough to see baby Phi and Delta and thought "You know, fuck it, Zero could be a midget with a ball on his head," and entered Delta's name during the Mexican standoff with Q team. That shit made NO sense at all until a few hours later when I went through the rest of the game.
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>>343834314
>big titty brunette maid
>look up source
>it ISNT eroge

why would you do this
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>>343834854
Carlos and Snake.
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>>343835030
But that was the point, and it had attention drawn to it constantly while not revealing what was actually going on until the reveal, so it was possible to figure it out yourself and if you didn't then when the reveal happened it would be shocking.
ZTD has a few sparse hints throughout the 16 hours until the reveal and then goes "lol there was an old man there the entire time and also everyone knew Sean's name but never said it until now".

The difference here is that one actually foreshadowed it and didn't hide information from the player. ZTD's twist was on par with Heavy Rain.
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The terrorist is an angry Kyle tired of Akane's bullshit.
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>>343835204
Akane is the one who put them to sleep so they are doing exactly that. Sleeping in a safe location.
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>>343835231
Pic related, it's the puzzle
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>>343832301
>Eric never figured out that Mira probably killed his mom
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>>343835446
Jumpei?
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>>343835440
It's okay, he would forgive her.
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>>343835504
savage
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>>343835446
Yeah it was kinda bad but it's just video games senpai
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How can your waifu say she loves you, if she won't kill for you?

Akane best girl.
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>>343835395
I don't understand, where is the button for the instructions?
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>>343835446
I forgive him because he gave me Carlos.
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>>343835446
It was fine until ancient aliens.
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>>343835446
Dangonronpa fags trying to sabotage these threads.
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>>343831917
She's been trapped for a month in an underground bomb shelter with nothing to do with one dude after playing an insane death game with no sign that help is coming.

I don't know, I think I'd have a fucking drink or ten as well.
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>>343834459
>yfw Junpei and Akane are the meat in this Carlos sandwich
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>>343834854
I really like Eric and would want to see him again. Of course, he wouldn't be able to be the character that doesn't have a clue what's going on any more, but I think he could still be good without that. I was convinced he was going to end up going back in time and becoming Zero or Brother at one point in ZTD, after all.
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>>343835395
wait a minute that card..
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>>343835661
>not carlos and akane fucking on a bed made of junpei pieces
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>>343835564
What's the point of Akane being in ZTD? Explaining to Carlos what shifting is?
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>>343835290
ZTD did deliberately hide Delta from the player with the camera angles and magical teleportation bullshit, but there were plenty of references to him being there. Mira even thinks it's a joke when Q is announced as the team leader. They constantly refer to the "old man" while panning the camera over Gab. Sean repeatedly mentions "you all" instead of "you two", when in fact he's never met anyone outside of Q team.
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>>343835643
at least danganronpa doesn't suffer from bullshit endings
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>>343835752
Did you not play VLR?
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Is Phi a virgin?
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Doesn't Delta have to die in or to survive and get to the future to tell DIO to fuck up the nonary games?
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>>343832301
Because Mira turned herself in, she already got justice
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>>343835290
No way, dude.

They both hide information from the reader, and ZTD does have some foreshadowing (the shadows, the comment about 'poor Q' never seeing his death coming, other particular word choices in the scenes with Q Team), and Q gets ignored all the time for a much better reason than the sister does.

Let's just be honest here, whole ending for SnK was hot garbage, ZTD fucks up considerably but not anywhere near as much.
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>>343835752
to have 9 people and make fun stuff happen. The only needed characters are delta, phi, sigma and diana. All the games has characters that aren't actually important or needed in the grand scheme of things.
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>>343835889
She's a ~22 year old that looks AND dresses like that, what do you think
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>>343835815
>constantly
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>>343835738

So when did /v/ get into ntr stuff? Like I guess it is a natural progression for cancer but I just didn't see it coming.
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>>343835893
She escaped.
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>>343835831
I like both series because they both suffer from that anon
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>>343835268
I did the same. I thought the game was breaking the fourth wall and I, the player was Zero.
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>>343835815
But they never fear that Zero will punish them for Sean voting instead of the crippled bastard? I find that hard to believe.
They would at least use brute force to make invisible shadowy guy vote.
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Was I the only one that expected ZTD's cast to be astronauts/NASA personel in training?
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>>343833974
I'll do a Diana and Sigma next, then do some Phi

Don't have time right now to dedicate it to the drawing, it'll have to be tomorrow.
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>>343835815
>>343835912
>They constantly refer to the "old man" while panning the camera over Gab.
If by "constantly" you mean literally only once, yeah.

As for the rest, you're ignoring my point. Yes, there are moments where ZTD foreshadowed the twist, but they were only ever sparse vague hints, which is why so many people were confused by it rather than surprised. In SnK the protagonist narrates everything to his sister, which is bizarre when you start the game but quickly becomes natural and you completely ignore it as the game goes on. Every time he meets a new character they notice his "affliction" and the atmosphere is uncomfortable. SnK has the twist ceaselessly dangled in front of your face without you even realising it, while ZTD just drops a few bread crumbs and calls it a day.
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>>343836110
That would have been better than what we got
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I get that they had a tight budget but come on! Why is the "premium booklet" is this small?I wanted the game box art & a full picture of the picture on the booklet inside but there is none.
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>>343835815
>Q is the leader
>Q Team doesn't let Q do anything and makes the mystery kid do it instead
Shitty team, very inconsiderate.
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>>343835998
No?
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>>343835998
she is only 20 and she thinks she is weird or above most others and grew up in irregular surroundings so I doubt she isn't a virgin.

She is cute though, and diana being 22 and already fucking married and divorced means anything is possible.
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>>343836176
why would you spoil other games anon

WHY
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>>343835912
>Let's just be honest here, whole ending for SnK was hot garbage

I liked it though. Some parts were overlong but I thought it was bretty good.
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>>343836187
So is his sister dead or what?
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>>343836264
>Q doesn't make decisions
>Q team never gets a rule violation

wtf
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>>343836327
the real spoiler is that Hina turns into a breeding sow for Weedman
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So what Carlos' sister had was basically radical 6 right? Or did I miss something?
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>>343836313
>doubt she isn't a virgin.
But she's Diana' daughter and she was getting plowed way before her 20s.
Being a slut is hereditary
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I feel the twist would have worked better if Delta was on D Team, since the could have made constant "old guy" references that the player would think they would be about Sigma.
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>>343836187
This. SnK handled it a lot better since it felt more cohesive and tied better into the story. ZTD felt more like they were forcing that TWEEST even if they did foreshadow it a few times.
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>>343836260
I don't get why Diana gets the front cover. She wasn't much of a character and the only notable thing she did besides getting decision games right was getting knocked up.
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>>343836374
I bet she's a legally owned sex slave and it's considered impolite to acknowledge her.

That's just my guess, nobody tell me what actually happens please.
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is this game good
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>>343836260
That looks like someone took the cover off the booklet and not the booklet itself
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>>343836416
>rule violations

this part bothered me. Like, the fag never really gave 'rules', did he? Just 'door opens for 30 seconds once 6 of you are dead'. You'd try some shit, and either he'd show up on screen like 'pls dont bomb' or zombie sean will show up and go DBZ on your team.
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>>343836416
>Q doesn't make decisions

He essentially makes every decision
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>>343836479
Two completely different diseases, anon

Reverie Syndrome is caused when ESPers don't have control over their powers. All it does is cause you to go into what's basically a coma.

Radical-6 is a BIT more serious
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>>343836327
Daganronpa was shit and should've kept what was happening in the real world vague. I just cant take it seriously that a single girl could ruin the entire world like that.
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>>343836438
Damn Trudeau wins again
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>>343836479
Her symptoms had nothing in common with r6
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>>343836260
and this one too in not in it
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>>343836479
some disease brought up and the immediately resolved, she's apparently a shifter who is shifting so much that she can't stay conscious
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>>343836187
First off, your point was that ZTD didn't foreshadow it and hid information from the player while SnK did not, which is blatantly false. Don't act like that wasn't exactly what you said.

That out of the way, your issue with ZTD is that the twist isn't as easy to pick up on because the foreshadowing isn't a constant thing happening all the time, which is entirely your problem.
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>>343836479
No she had "reverie syndrome" which is basically just a side effect of being a shifter. Her consciousness was shifting to alternate histories so frequently that she was barely cognisant in any of them which made it look like she had some undiagnosable brain disorder.
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Somebody tell me the SnK twist
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>>343836327
Sorry, I wasn't even thinking. Don't worry though, it's shit anyway. Imagine all the hype you felt for the entire Zero Escape series and how it ended, multiply that by a factor of five and then condense it down into one game.
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>>343836176
the ending makes sense for that story. here you have ayylmao, complex motives, plotholes, time travel inconsistencies, and pretty much a cliffhanger to a trilogy.
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>>343836502
That specific situation is what allows Zero to succeed, so I guess that's why.
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>>343836481
Yeah A corrupt tree can not bear good fruit.

But I think Phi is a good girl. At least for now.
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Slut
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>>343836728
She's a dakimakura
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>>343836728
you're a cat
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>>343833384
Maze Dirt Oil Meme
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>>343836728
Literally a few posts above you.

>>343836674
The only foreshadow I liked about Delta was the scene where Carlos talked to Gab. Everything else felt either disingenuous or trivial.
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>>343836616
>>343836176
>I'm an autist who can't buy into the idea of a hot titty monster Charles Manson with a fuckload of cash and influence causing some trouble
lol yeah, it's totally the series fault
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>>343836374
If you want the whole thing spoilt for you:
The setting of Sharin no Kuni is in the future of Japan where a new justice system exists where people are given specific personalised punishments for crimes they have committed and enforcers are tasked with ensuring that their punishments are carried out and the people are reformed. The worst punishment one can receive is to be marked as someone who can't be communicated with, and they're given a tattoo to show this and cannot talk to or draw the attention of anybody, and anybody who acknowledges their existence will be made a criminal as well.
The MC's sister is falsely convicted and is given that punishment, and the MC becomes an enforcer to try and save her. Throughout the game the MC is constantly talking to his sister as though she wasn't there, for example, saying "I'm just a weird guy who loves my sister!" which allows him to indirectly communicate to her without breaking the rules. Throughout the game the MC is shown smoking herbs, and it's implied that he's addicted to drugs, and occasionally gets the shakes, which is what it's implied that his "affliction" is when people notice it and become uncomfortable. In actuality his sister is following him around for the entire game, never saying a word, and it's revealed towards the end when she suddenly speaks when the MC decides to rebel against the system.
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>>343836789
Like you wouldn't beg for the 18 Incher
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>>343836728
You were the witch, bodyswapped, the whole time.
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>>343836804
DAMN

BRAT
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I wish they added the filter the trailers had since it looked better.

Maybe adding it as an option after the true end or something since you'd know you were looking through cameras.
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>>343836616
>Daganronpa was shit and should've kept what was happening in the real world vague
This. The mystery of what is actually happening outside actually played into the psychedelic nature of the game.
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>>343836789
LEAVE DIANA ALONE
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>>343836761
>teenage girl destroys the world for teh dispairs /lulz
>makes perfect sense
What?
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>>343836518
no
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>>343835564
>acknowledges jumping through time, space technology, and every theory under the sea
>doesn't acknowledge that the mastermind can somehow bring people into a closed room situation by just unlocking a fucking hidden door
Worst girl
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>>343836260
tfw PC only gets pdf files
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>>343836882
>Charles Manson is capable of literally causing a global collapse

Okay.
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Would you a Dianna?
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>>343836994
>>343836960
>global collapse
>destroys the world
Even in the canon of both games the world was fine after a few years tops

Sasuga, retard-kun
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>>343836789
>Sigma gives the run down of her shitty life and why she joined
>after all of that and being locked in the facility, she basically turns into her ex husband
Man that part really made me feel like shit to see someone go down a destructive path like that. Like it's one of those situations where I don't even know what I would have done. On one hand I don't want her to feel alone, but sleeping with her isn't the right fucking answer at all.

God fucking damn that ending was a masterpiece.
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>>343836887
>Throughout the game the MC is shown smoking herbs
This was another incredibly stupid thing about this game. Supposedly the fandisk makes it seem like less of an asspull, though.
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>>343836957
>>343836904
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>>343836887
>and cannot talk to or draw the attention of anybody
What counts as 'drawing attention' though? Because just standing in the middle of public can draw attention.

Are you expected to live in the shadows your entire life?
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>>343837049
No, I don't people who cause the deaths of 6 billion
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>>343836887
That sounds really stupid.
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>>343836963
everyone in this thread seems to hate it, what was so bad about it? personally i loved 999 but thought vlr was kind of shit. will i hate this too
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>>343836972
IF YOU KILL JUMPY THEN I GET GRUMPY
HORRIBLE
HORRIBLE
HORRIBLE
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>>343835752
Her dad got framed by Mira's first murder. Her mom killed herself after that.
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So it was Mira who killed Sigma and then Phi in that one timeline? Where did she get the cloak?
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>>343837086
18 INCHES
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>>343836674
The ways that the games hid information is not the same. This is why I made the Heavy Rain comparison. In ZTD you never once see anyone refer to Sean by his name, and yet the moment after the twist you get a file saying "nobody has ever called Sean by anything else", which blatantly contradicts what we are shown. That's how it hides information to force the twist, and when everyone suddenly starts using Sean's name like it's going out of fashion, that shows the twist is incredibly forced.

>That out of the way, your issue with ZTD is that the twist isn't as easy to pick up on because the foreshadowing isn't a constant thing happening all the time, which is entirely your problem.
No, my point is that SnK's foreshadowing being a constant which starts off weird and then becomes natural makes it a twist that comes entirely naturally while making you feel like a fool. ZTD only has sparse hints which make the twist easily forgettable and not particularly tied into the overall story much at all.
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>>343837064
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>>343837086
DELETE THIS
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>>343834854
Not counting the main protagonists, Ace/Seven and Dio
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>>343836960
>bootstrapped paradox baby makes a death game in order for his parents to fuck to for his survival
>makes perfect sense
what
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>>343836518
It's ok. It's great at first then slightly gets worse and worse after analysis.
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>>343837115
I'd kill 6 billion people for you anon-kun~
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>Going to work, it's a lovely day outside
>Sun is shining, birds are chir-
>Suddenly in a dark room facing a shotgun pellet
>Me from another timeline shifted and took over my life

Oh boy SHIFTing definitely doesn't create an existentialist crisis wherein your entire life has no meaning

>Brother could have been someone that's gone insane from SHIFTing too much into other timelines
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>Eric
>Shoots a little kid with a grenade launcher
>Blames little kids for killing people he was was willing to kill
What a piece of shit this guys is.
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So who the fuck killed Phi and Sigma in that one D team fragment?
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>>343837086
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>>343836887
Sounds similar to the Black Mirror Christmas special.
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>>343837084
It wasn't an ass pull at all. The game blatantly explained that it was a ruse to fool his boss, what more needs to be said?

>>343837097
Speaking to or interacting with people. The idea is for them to suffer from being made to live a life without interaction.
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>>343837154
The file says no one refers to him as anything OTHER THAN Sean. (No one ever called him Q)
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>>343837316
yeah, shifting is scary as shit. At any moment, another you that mastered shifting could take over your place and kill you.

Pleasant dreams.
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>>343837258
In a huge contradiction, I actually think Akane's insane devotion to Junpei is incredibly attractive

>>343837345
Mira, she has fucking colored nails even in the scene
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>>343837214
>guy has access to ayylien technology, is fucking old and can mindhaxx people
>meanwhile boob girl has le despair and hypnosis and like a really good memory
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>>343835889
I never got the boob thing. Are they compressed or what?
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>>343837148
I honestly think they meant for someone other than Mira to be the murderer. She didn't even tear their hearts out, which is he entire reason she kills people. Same with Junpei, why the fuck did she butcher him, and why did Delta then think "boy I bet I can make a real good puzzle room with these mangled body parts"?
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>>343837408
That's exactly the same meaning, but again, the point is that everyone suddenly starts using his name, as though they'd been doing that all along. It's not natural at all.
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Do I have to play the first two zero escape games to understand this?
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>>343837154
>>343837408
Never mind just understood what you wrote. Pls disregard
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>>343837086
>>343836789
Did anyone else appreciate they actually fugged? I mean, that NEVER happens in these kind video games outside of hentai vns. Kudos for them not pulling out.
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>>343837064
>that Carlos
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>>343837503
She's lying because she's self-conscious, anon
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>>343837527
Not really, which is the problem.
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>>343837527
Not really.
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>>343836728
Your best friend used hypnosis to brainwash himself and your loyal comatose follower into believing that he is you in order to trick a highly advanced AI in order to mask your movements while you create an free nation state to fight an upcoming information war only to have them send your artificial clone son against you who used an aerosol can and a lighter to burn you alive only for your remains to be kept alive and later recovered after your trick the AI into believing you're dead by using the remains of your youngest clone who is also the ex-president and then you die after hug fighting your son at the grave of your former mentor.
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>>343837527
You'll miss a lot of the references and investment in the characters but, no.

Shit, I think some of the people here still don't understand it
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>>343837527
Yes. But jump right in anyways and tell us about it.
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>>343837553
>Kudos for them not pulling out.

neither did Sigma
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>>343837470
>last sequel had to resort some mind hacking ass pull to finish it

ayylmao
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>>343837553
>3 months later
>Heh, it'd be funny if she was pregnant, but no way that'll happen.
>"Sigma, I'm pregnant."
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>>343837527
I would recommend it. It spoils major events from both games.
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My gripe was all the reused music and overuse of trepidation and blue bird lamentation that made the tracks lose their impact.
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>>343837553
>Kudos for them not pulling out.
I think that's stupid and incredibly irresponsible given the circumstances, but it turned out for the best somehow.
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>>343837636
Took me a second. Still sounds like a legit VN plot.
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>>343836728
They were the titans.
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>>343837413
Ah but you can shift when you're shifted to the other timeline nigger
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>Carlos and Junpei become swiss cheese in order to protect Akane
>Hidoii Junpei-kun!
>SHIFTs like nothing to another timeline
???
What was the fucking point?
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>>343837842
Only if you already know how to shift
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>>343837842
someone's gonna have to bite that bullet.
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>>343837672
He's been mindhaxxing people since VLR, shitposter-kun.
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>tfw this will be the last game in the series
>tfw very little is closed and we'll never get answers to the last 2 games

I'd rather we'd just not of got this 3rd game desu senpai
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>>343837636
I believed everything until the hug, and then Naked Son flashed in my head.
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>>343836728
The universe is actually just a video game and the NPCs are the real player characters.
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