Why was Reach so perfect?
>>343828162
>360
I'm pretty sure that was the actual resolution of Reach.
>>343828162
I wouldnt say perfect
I didnt like the ability system
>>343828162
>ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK
>>343828162
Forge World was comfy
That's about it
>>343828748
What about sprint, chief? Sprint is pretty cool
>>343828162
Hopping in the Wraith and going on a 32 kill streak was a ton of fun because apparently nobody has ever heard of power weapons and the vehicles in Reach weren't made of actual paper. The aerial combat in Reach was also superior, with teamwork being utilized to cap objectives and steal flags with the Falcon.
Can't do that in Halo 4 or 5.
Too many people bitch about Armor Lock. It was only ever a problem if you were fucking shit at the game. Granted, most console gamers do suck ass at FPS.
>>343828748
Like anyone with half a brain used armorlock
On a side note I fucking loved using cloak.
>>343829096
Also, the armor customization was vastly superior. Everything in Halo 4 and 5 looks like fucking Chinese plastic. Reach actually had a rugged "I've been through the meat grinder" look to it that super commandos in a future war would have.
And the firefight mode might have been bad compared to ODST, but it was still miles ahead of 4 and 5.
And Invasion was the best goddamn game mode ever created. Fucking perfect.
>>343828162
Keep dreaming reach baby
>Armor abilities ruined gameplay
>forge was bland and grey
>Reused campaign assets for multi maps
>Fire fight was easy compared to odst
>Brown dull grit overlay compared to 3's vibrant colors
>Spartans are dumpy chubs with tacticool armor
Only redeeming qualities was pro pipe and the Ui
>>343828162
I wouldn't call it perfect (far from it tbhesu) but that was the only Halo game I ever liked for what it's worth.
>>343829359
Spartan 2's don't get dirty and worn specially considering that they are top dogs of the unsc, while s3's are suicide grunts who plaster themselves with vests and ammo belts and spooky scary flaming skull helmets to defend the planet.
>>343829847
HEY. Spooky scary flame skulls get results
>>343828162
Halo 3 was better.
Reach custom games were a fucking wasteland compared to 3.
>>343829847
Yeah, Spartan 2's have never had any dirt or damage on their armor. Except for the fact that, you know, 90% of them died during Reach.
>Campaign
1>Reach>ODST>3>2
>multiplayer
1(holy shit playing it on LAN was great) >3>2>Reach
>overall
1>Reach=3>2>ODST
ODST was my favorite modern halo
It felt like it was made for the gamers who started with the first and felt lost after the 2nd.
>>343829847
That is retarded
>>343830179
Spartans never die anon, you should know that.
>>343830076
Is that a joke
>>343829532
>>Brown dull grit overlay compared to 3's vibrant colors
Now you're just being stupid.
>>343828375
underrated post
https://youtu.be/RWnB_o2_5dY?t=1m54s
Whoa, so this is the power of Spartan IIs...
>>343828162
>shitty maps
>shit balance
>shit new weapons
>armor lock
Fuck no
>>343828162
>Halo thread
>image.jpg
Beautiful.
>>343830287
It's like you WANT to summon him
Forge and Custom Games peaked in Reach.
halo 2 best
>>343829096
>the vehicles in Reach weren't made of actual paper.
That's not the Reach that I remember.
>>343828162
>tfw the only 360 Halo game with players is Reach
>tfw Xbone isn't worth buying and the MCC is a mess
I just wanna play Halo 3 senpaia good PC port when?
>invasion is the only gametype either bungie or 343 has made post OG trilogy worth a damn
>BEST forge mode/map without question
>Fun campaign
>Firefight was good
>Best online customization for your characters
>Theater mode didn't feel like it took several steps back from the one Bungie gave us in 2007
>While it did incorporate some shitty aspects that people hated, it didn't completel CODify Halo like the 343 games did
if MS had any brains at all, they'd do a CE/H2 Anniversary edition for this game and release it as a Scorpio launch title (yes it won't have any games current Xbone's can't play, but they can take advantage of the hardware)
>>343830489
Terrible example
Compare that drab shit with this
>>343830179
It was established that Spartan IIs were practically untouchable and could easily crush the Covenant opposition whenever there was a fight on the ground.
The ONLY reason why most of them were wiped out on Reach is because that advantage of theirs didn't mean shit when the Covenant could glass planets they were still currently on.
>>343828162
Bungie went back to Halo's roots and dropped a lot of what made Halo2 and Halo3 feel different from CE. The artstyle was vastly improved, and the soundscape was really great.
The only real blemish on the game was the implementation of armor abilities.
>>343828162
It was shit, but that sniper looked really nice.
>>343833014
They didn't go back to their roots at all. Your feet were perpetually stuck in mud, the guns were all weak and inaccurate, and the health system was totally different.
>>343828162
Yea, naw
Campaign is just ok, like every other halo game, nostalgia aside
Multiplayer matchmaking was the lowest point in the series
Customs was the highest point in the series
Overall balance of matchmaking and customs goes to 3, since halo 2 modded lobbies weren't as easy to get into compared to customs in 3
if there's one thing I remember about Reach it was that the Elites were vastly more aggressive and difficult to fight than the other halo games.
I also appreciated the fact that the Grunts stopped being Jar-Jar Binks style midget aliens and actually sounded alien and at least attempting to be threatening.
>>343830179
90%
wasn't it like 99.9%
>>343829532
>Armor abilities ruined gameplay
literally what?
>forge was bland and grey
literally what?
>Reused campaign assets for multi maps
Hello anon, this is 90% of all games, how are you doing today?
>Fire fight was easy compared to odst
and?
>Brown dull grit overlay compared to 3's vibrant colors
literally what?
>Spartans are dumpy chubs with tacticool armor
muh dudebros
lmao you sure are REACHing for bad things to day.
>>343834528
>i don't have any opinions on game design so i'll just question this guy's
>>343834740
you probably don't enjoy playing any of your games sir
>>343834939
Of course I do, just not the shit ones like Reach.
Reach might be my favorite looking game on the 360. It knew the limitations and didn't attempt anything flashy. No shit filters, no crazy effect, just clean models, clean textures, and clean shadows, with a shocking amount of anti-aliasing for a 360 game.
Only downside was the framerate. They had trouble even maintaining a stable 30fps, I felt the framerate drop a lot when I played it.
>>343835305
>No shit filters
It had a shitty film grain filter, and a shocking amount of motion blue.
>>343828162
I really liked the campaign but the multiplayer was so awful.
The MP maps were so bad and the matchmaking was flooded with those forge made maps that got boring quick.
>>343830310
>3 better than 2 multiplayer
faggot detected with shit taste
do the world a favor and kill yourself
>>343835394
I'm fine with a 30fps game having motion blur, and film grain has never bugged me either.
>>343834528
>armor abilities
It changed the base of the game, this isn't bad in concept but there was no reason to not use armor lock or sprint, and even then the benefits of armor lock were so vastly superior after a certain point that it made using anything else null.
>grey
Most of the set pieces and look of outdoor maps were fairly grey. Forgeworld is a decent example of just a bad looking area overall.
>reused campaign assets
this was not done as much in halo prior, there was always a decent selection of maps that had very little assets or at the very least didn't look like complete rips from campaign
>firefight was easy
Thus making it not nearly as fun as ODST's, and making the drive to want to play it significantly less
>brown dull grit overlay
It is a bit washed out, but doesn't bother me
>spartans are dumpy chubs
It's been a while but I remember all of the spartans in the game reach other than jorge and master chief are all spartan 3's which again to my limited knowledge are repurposed soldiers in spartan armor with mechanical or biologic enhancements.
I'm not the other guy but to my knowledge reach was the homeworld of the spartan 2 project, and he is probably complaining about the lack of their existence within the game.
>>343831804
Maybe a port with/after Halo 3 Anniversary next year
>>343830310
Is 1 mp still good?
>>343828162
Well it did have the best version of the map you posted at least.
>>343835921
It hasn't changed in a decade and a half. If you have a modded Xbox, you can play some of the fanmade maps too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAFUuhMk9VY
>>343830310
>>Campaign
>1>
No. Just no.
Halo CE's campaign is highly overrated. It's one of the weakest ones. I'd put it down there with 4 and 5. Hell, I might put it below those two.
>>343836426
I liked it because the enemies weren't bullet sponges and could all be dodged if you were good enough. And all the weapons, within reason, were usable for the entire game.
Gotta give Bungie credit, their skyboxes are GOAT
Reach was a great game overall, but came second in every aspect
>Halo CE was best Campaign
>Halo 2 was best MP/ best maps
>ODST was best Firefight
>Halo 2 was best soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W5TvaBdNJc
fight me
>>343836762
The dodgeable plasma shots were nice, but I don't really get the other points (beyond the plasma pistol in CE being a beast of a weapon that everyone underestimated). The enemy health outside the Hunters remained pretty constant throughout the first few Halo games and besides the aforementioned Plasma Pistol most weapons were useful in the other games.
>Removed movable objects in Forge
>Broke one-life Infection modes
>Removed dual-wielding
>Only one Forge map, however large it may be
It was a great game, but they made a ton of mistakes. Then 343i went on to copy those mistakes and make a mediocre game on top of it.
At least Halo 5 turned out alright for those of you who were stupid enough to buy the Bone, right?
>>343836825
>>Halo CE was best Campaign
By best I hope you mean worst.
>>343828162
Reach was perfect because Bungie wanted their last hurrah to be that which the community would love, respect, have fun with, and overall, give the Xbox community more validation towards their purchase.
The keyword is "was".
Soon as 343 came in, the game was fucked to high heaven by shitty community maps, shitty community gametypes, and piss-poor managed matchmaking that was all decided on by which players blew 343's cock the hardest.
Then 4 came out and we got the death of a once-good series.
>>343837068
Were they, though? Legendary in Halo 2 was practically impossible without a noob combo.
>>343836426
>the Library
>>343828748
>driving ghost
>go to ram someone running across open ground
>swerve at the last second
>they armor lock thinking they were gonna score that sweet meme kill
>wait there and just shoot them to death at a safe distance
So many people forgot that the Ghost has ranged weapons.
>>343837153
I meant best in terms of story/ atmosphere
>>343837641
Still loses. Guilty Spark is the only character in CE with good dialogue, and ODST had a much better atmosphere. Hell, 4 had a better atmosphere, but that might be the ex-Retro devs helping out. If anyone knows atmosphere it's Retro.
>>343837147
>dual wielding
Yeah, they finally got rid of it and went back to Halo 1 style. Dual wielding broke the balance so that one-handed weapons were virtually useless unless you had two of them - see: Halo 2's Needler.
>live in a small rural town in Ohio
>its september 2010 and I just got home from GameStop with my copy of Halo Reach
>Sit down and turn my Xbox on
>all of a sudden house starts shaking
>a fucking tornado out of nowhere
>me, my mom and dog huddle in the kitchen while shits banging around outside, power goes out
>tree fell on our house and left us without heat for that winter
>power in our part of the city was out for weeks
>finally get to play after waiting so long
>put disk in
>Xbox falls over (I was a dumb ass and had it standing upright)
>giant circular scratch all around the disk
I stopped playing Halo games past 2. I remember playing 3 at someone's house but remember nothing about it. Heard Reach was really good. A shame so many Halo titles or versions are locked to XBox with no PC ports.
>>343837891
Funnily enough, those weapons were still useless when dual wielding went away.
I remember I learned how to literally launch yourself from the farthest rock all the way to the hangar bay in forge mode
>Max speed
>Lowest gravity
>Roll AA
>Get on rock
>Run to full speed
>Roll forward and mid-animation turn into the monitor
>Aim yourself where you want
>Change to character
>Launch at a gorillion miles an hour
>>343828162DUDESO
ARE YOU READY
FOR HALO
REACH?!
>>343837331
Halo 2 on legendary is the exception, not the rule.
The balance in that campaign falls apart on legendary.
>>343837974
holy shit anon...
>>343838132
It was slightly better in the later games, but there was still no reason not to have a BR at any time in the other games.
>>343837331
I remember playing Legendary on both original games. I don't remember WHY, but I decided Legendary on 1 was overall more difficult, but the first level on Halo 2 Legendary was practically impossible. But once you got past it, it wasn't too bad.
>>343828162
Gonna keep making these Reach threads, Reachfag?
>>343835789
>t there was no reason to not use armor lock or sprint
Yes there was, the reason is that jetpack was BROKEN, high level Arena and Squad Slayer was just 5 man team jetpack battles.
Literally all obey did was abuse jetpack teamshotting and they shit on everyone sans pro teams.
>>343838454
One sentence:Brutes on legendary with only a Needler.
>>343829096
>Reach vehicles
>not actual paper
You retarded cunt, Reach is the garbage that started that mess.
>>343838073
>Needler in anything but Halo 2
>useless
>>343829245
Every shitter who played like a sitting duck used it. Shit could remove plasma grenades stuck to you.
>>343832501
The only difference I see is worse lighting and lower poly models.
Stop trying too hard. Reach has the best art direction of the Halo games. Shame about the ghosting and silky smooth 24 fps sub-HD
>>343839763
The Needler was the worst gun in Halo 1, and was actually impossible to hit anyone who was moving.
>>343834528
Anon you should be ashamed at this post, just delete it.
>>343832501
Reach was less colorful because it was a tragic story.
You're playing through humanity's biggest loss in their war with the Covenant.
>>343828162
>Reach
>good
>image.jpg
jesus christ, man. get a hold of yourself.
>>343837891
Yeah, dual-wielding's actual worth is debatable, but Reach still had quite a few fuckups
Then 343i took over the fucking matchmaking and updates.
Jesus christ.
>>343828162
reach is literally the worst halo
buh bye
why was Reach so perfect at ruining the Halo franchise?
The story was so badly written, than not one single event in the could have possibly occurred. From the very first frame, to the very last. NONE of it was possible as it contradicts established lore
The multiplayer was CoD instead of Halo. Bullshit perks (AAs) and loadouts. Shit maps ripped from single player. Crosshair bloom.
It was a fucking abomination, and I'm calling you out on being underage if you try and say otherwise.
>>343840229
>343
>not objectively improving reach
>>343830489
I miss those grimy medals.
Okay I tried to hold my anger in but I FUCKING HAD ENOUGH! Reach was border line shit. It equal to Metroid: Other M in this franchise and is a glorified insult to the Halo name!
>terrible campaign
>shit story
>no plot
>breaks canon to exist
>tries to use nostalgia to make up for bad level design
>shit character development
>return to battlefield or die
>shit mp maps
>mp maps reused from campaign
>other mp maps are in Forge World
>shit ranking
>ranking can only be seen on Bungie.net
>grind to rank up
>get new armor by grinding
>most of the weapon sandbox was shit
>cardboard vehicles
>slow ass based movement speed
>low ass jump height
>bloom on every weapon
>armor abilities
>loadouts
>nuke grenades
>sword block with any weapon
>broken melee
>shit health system that was nothing like CE
>motion blur causing ghosting
>film grain filter
>desatuarated color palette
>on-rails shooting
>MAC gun
>no scarab battles
>no Super Carrier level
>no grand battles
>fight only two wildlife in game
>that shitty Tip of the Spear opening cutscene
>no fucking power ups on maps
>shit replacements to covenant weapons
>the removal of Brute weapons and vehicles
>gimped theater
>arcade Firefight
>only two grenade types
>only being able to carry two grenades with only two grenade types
>gimped Elite customization
>Elites are only playable in modes that are made for them (Elite Slayer, Invasion)
>Forge World is gray
>ally AI is the most retarded in the entire series
>no bleedthrough
>boring as fuck
>no "Halo" epic moments
>doesn't feel like Halo
>replacing flashlight with night vision
>enemy AI have six-sense
>shit spawn systems
>no skull searching in campaign
You Reachfags on /v/ are literal cancer in need to get head by a fucking train. Also don't think I'm going to leave you ODST shitheads out of this because you fuckers are next in part fucking 2.
>>343840229
>Reach pre-343
>Garbage with one good playlist (Invasion)
>Reach post-343
>Tolerable with a few good playlists (MLG, Anniversary, Team Classic, Invasion)
if you're a BTB kiddo my condolences.
>>343838604
Only 18-ish more months until Halo(PC) comes back, right?
>>343837974
capped
>>343828162
Remember the old vidocs before it came out
>Huge sandbox combat
>Expansive areas
>100's of npcs and vehicles on screen
its just a fucking ingame cutscene.
WOW
So glad they fucked off to destiny after that.
>>343840318
I never understood why people claimed the maps were ripped from single player when it was exceedingly obvious that the maps were often shoved with varying degrees of success into the single player campaign after being designed for multiplayer. Take the beginning of New Alexandria, you start on that one multiplayer map just to walk from one side of it to another to walk through a door with absolutely zero enemy encounters.
>>343840338
>Dude DLC playlists lmao
>Improvement
???
Am I remembering the wrong game or are you trying to goof me?
>>343840802
>bungie didn't make dlc playlists
>>343839971
>he cant hit people with the needler
jej git gud nub skrub :^) :^) :^)
>>343828162
It had an atmosphere nearly identical to earth's so it was perfect for colonization.
>>343840508
>Reach Pre-343i
>>Tons of playlists
>Reach Post-343i
>2 playlists then 4
>>343840949
>>>Tons of playlists
>all with 3 people apiece
>>343837147
Yeah I like Halo 5 more than Reach, for multiplayer and the gameplay at least.
Halo 5 had the best story of all the Halos.
>>343840386
Now on to you ODSTfags
>still feel like a Spartan
>can take more damage than a Spartan
>empty ass hub levels
>can do everything a Spartan can do yet somehow you can't duel wield or use Equipments
>removal of Halo weapons and vehicles
>shitty ass SMG and pistol
>film grain filter
>washed out daytime missions
>crap character development
>boring ass story
>it's literally Firefly
>The Rookie doesn't talk when needs to
>shit encounters
>boring level designs
>stuck using VSIR at night because it's so damn dark
>you don't even fight Elites and they're already dead
>Truth fleet makes it to Earth that early
>downgraded Phantom explosion (also in Reach)
>Firefight moments in campaign
>uninteresting finale
>game not a stealth game like Bungie promised
>campaign short ass hell
>$60 on release
>no Firefight Matchmaking
>Has Halo 3 mp on the disc instead of its own
Now do me a favor you non Halo fans fuck off and stop making this shitty bait threads ODST & Reach are shit.
>>343840549
Looking how much they lied with Halo 2's campaign and ODST as a whole, I had already given up on Bungie as soon as they decided an expansion pack was worth a full price game.
>Arby 'n' the Chief is almost a decade old
>>343841737
No. End thyself.
>>343842097
Yeah, destiny was my last straw with bungle, I realized I didn't love the creators but just the ip and the concept ideas they had.
>>343841790
Relax, Autismo. They're still great games, and no one's trying to diminish the other releases' relevance either way.
>>343842335
Consider that half the studio's talent left when they parted with MS. Some even stayed in 343. They don't even have Marty anymore.
>>343832501
Yup that game was such a piece of shit. One think I actually like about what 343 did was bring the color from Halos 1-3 back to halo, since Halos 4 & 5 are once again colorful unlike those film grain messes ODST & Reach.
>>343840508
Funny how all the evolved playlists died and only the classic ones ever had population. The people who praised what 343i did to Reach, don't actually play Reach.
>>343844068
>The people who praised what 343i did to Reach, don't actually play Reach.
I was playing ZB customs every single day.
It would be nice if we could have a single halo thread where we talk about the shit we like in each game or discuss lore or our general love for the series rather then just everybody calling everybody elses favorite halo game shit.
I don't even mind discussing the weak points of each game, but it's just whining and bitching, not dissuasion '
>>343831804
MCC is basically fine now, but there's not that many people in MM for it. You can get matches, but it takes a few mins.
>>343833297
>The guns were all weak and inaccurate
The automatics in Halo Reach were the most accurate they had ever been in the series till that point.
>>343841790
>>343840386
Jesus Christ man, calm your autism. No one says ODST and Reach are perfect but they are enjoyable games that served a purpose in the Halo franchise.
Go take a lie down or something man.
>>343840318
>The story was so badly written, than not one single event in the could have possibly occurred. From the very first frame, to the very last. NONE of it was possible as it contradicts established lore
That's wrong, though. Read Halsey's journal and the data drops.
>The multiplayer was CoD instead of Halo. Bullshit perks (AAs) and loadouts.
The only things the loadouts had were AA's, so splitting that into 2 separate points is misleading. Also, AA's are way more similar to equipment in Halo 3 then they are to perks in CoD.
Also, you could always just turn them off.
>Shit maps
No argument there.
>Crosshair bloom.
Was good for automatics, which cancels out it being bad for precision guns.
>>343842097
Except MS made them do it, it wasn't their decision,
>>343844658
It would be nice if we could have a single halo thread where we talk about the shit we like in each game or discuss lore or our general love for the series rather then just everybody calling everybody elses favorite halo game shit.
I don't even mind discussing the weak points of each game, but it's just whining and bitching, not dissuasion.
Its sad really cause Halo is really quite interesting. Its my vision of what our future military would be like.
Plus the games have some amazing atmosphere and characters, with some amazing designs.
And lets not forget about the music, holy shit Marty O'Donnell is a genius, so sad to see him go from the Halo franchise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDSQbCYrXu0
>>343845109
Dang forgot to quote the first paragraph.
because bungie is the greatest western game developer on earth.
so insanely talented unlike the hacks at 343i. there is still no better thrill in console gaming then storming a flag as one of the gunners in a full falcon
>>343830287
Kill yourself, Barneyfag.
>halo reach
>nails the future soldier aesthetic perfectly, UNSC marines look operator as fuck, the army troopers have the look you'd expect from them, spartans are just fucking badass looking, combining those colorful space marine designs from earlier games with a more logical "how would this actually work" twist
>343
>LOL EVANGELION ARMOR
>LOL SPANDEX
>LOL DOZENS OF "WE DIDN'T CARE" TIER ARMORS IN 5
when will micrososft port reach to PC?
>>343840386
>>343841790
fukkin lol
ODST and Reach are the best games in the series faggot
>>343845305
>guilt
Damn aliens don't feel guilt for wiping out human cities. They wanted the extermination of mankind.
>>343845074
Oh god it's you again, seeing as how you like to throw that Journal and Data Drops everywhere, will you finally answer how did the Pillar have enough time fight in a space battle above Reach, pick up Chief, and pick up Cortana's clone?
>>343845751
that's wrong you fucking faggot
http://www.halopedia.org/The_Return
http://www.halopedia.org/Unidentified_Shipmaster_(Righteous_Vigilance)
>>343844658
They were also the weakest they've ever been.
>>343839941
the truth is, and a lot of you won't believe this, but reach has the best graphics, art direction, particle effects, gameplay, vehicle and weapon content, and literally best everything in the halo franchise. Bungie is one of those companies that build off the frameworks they set in previous releases. they seriously only improved after each halo iteration.
as someone who has spent 500+ hours on each halo it's obvious that:
Reach > 3 > 2 > 1
throw all of that in the trash when the talentless shallow (but honestly hard working) hacks at 343i took over
>>343846214
It had a lot of "stuff", at the cost of making everything super watered down.
>>343828529
Nah, I have to disagree. I actually liked the ability system, I thought it was quite fun without overdoing it like blackops/adv warfare
>>343845305
Yo lad, is that picture made in Gmod or SFM? I want to start getting into making this kinda funky shit.
>>343845683
You must be the pencil neck cunt that made this thread. Bungie's two final Halos were pure shit and is better non canon faggot.
>loadouts
No. Unforgivable.
>>343837147
bungie's halo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rridXskgWg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRhg1_BWHwM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMYrKTU8Hmc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnw-Sfvh-zo
343i's halo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKb8U8R4A7M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvy43tGvnog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGYh4e0YoxI
aka everything 343i touches turns to shallow garbage. halo was once a game about a suicidal religious war, now it's anime tier bullshit.
also this is what a warthog exploding looks like in Reach (an xbox 360 game) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgEnv9clqEk
while this is what a warthog exploding looks like in 343i's halo (a next generation xbox one game) http://i.imgur.com/cInCQS7.gifv
rip halo
>>343828748
>Armor lock is what shitters bitch about the most because they're stupid enough to stand still and wait
>not bitching about Jet-pack that let you reach parts of the map you weren't intended to reach and camp with the DMR
>>343845751
The covenant wasn't some hivemind that collectively jacked off to killing humans, they were a massive empire of different species and cultures.
It was common among sangheli to have a great deal of respect for spartans and how humans just would never give up fighting, having an honor based warrior society and all. Kig-Yar sometimes traded with human colonies, and there was even a settlement where they lived side by side. The covenant had some fucked up leaders and there were definitely fanatical soldiers who fucking abhorred mankind's existence (brutes for example) but war is hell and even aliens could feel bad about having to wipe out entire planets to fulfill their destiny.
>>343845817
The PoA was outfitted with the in atmosphere boosters you see it with in H:R prior to it getting ready to commence operation: RED FLAG as told in the novel. This allowed it to go back down to the surface and pick up the half of cortana on the surface that Noble six had.
Chief was already on the PoA, and this took place during the period of time he was in cyro prior to the ship jumping into slispace, which, combined with the boosters, which is why it didn't show up in the novel canonically, since it was between chapters where john wasn't awake.
At least, that's what I recall the explanation being, I haven't read the journal or the data drops in a while. Also, I don't know who you think I am, but you should stop assumiing that everybody who brings shit up is the same person.
>>343846214
Halo 4 and 5's elites look good, it's just their armor looks garbage. Reach elites actually look shitty underneath the armor.
>>343846536
The Scanned commercial is good though. Also, the two vehicles in your image aren't even the same thing.
>>343834126
It was 90%, Spartan teams Blue, Red, Grey, and Black all survived Reach. Along with a handfull of Spartan III's.
>>343846536
>That warthog explosion
Jesus what the fuck?
>>343846536
Dude how about comparing the REAL Halo games (1-3) with 343's shit instead Bungie's two Destiny alphas which don't belong in the series to begin with.
>>343844068
only the biggest idiots who know jack shit about game design praised 343i
I think Halo 5 has better MP then Reach and Halo 3. It'd be better then 2's as well if it had more/better maps.
>>343846802
He's cherrypicking, it doesn't actually look like that most of the time, that was just a bugged explosion. The same glitch happens in all the previous halo games occasionally as well, where only the particles of the explosion show up, not the actual explison textures or the vehicle deconstruction
>>343829096
>Too many people bitch about Armor Lock.
>mfw I used to solo queue in multi-team, have my partner leave, and still win by spamming armor lock and cucking multiple teams at once
>>343828749
You're forgetting Invasion on Spire.
good times
>>343846834
I'd say that those first two you mentioned are pretty equal.
>>343846834
why the spoilers? halo 5 mp has great gameplay, one of the most balanced console shooters I have played, although I haven't really played it enough to really notice the finer details of the sandbox from what I've gathered everything has its role and isn't underpowered or overpowered. People like to say that it's Call of Halo but using things like sprint and the boosters too much as if you were playing CoD will just get your ass kicked by people who use them more sparingly and play Halo like Halo.
Art design in 5 is fucking awful and I hate how they reuse the same 4 maps for the "new free maps" but mechanically the game is great.
>>343846730
Did you even read the book, POA didn't have enough time to do all that shit. No more, I have had enough you popping up every single fucking thread trying to defend your canon breaking prequel with a journal that didn't with the standard addition of the game and your data drops which only added more confusion to the mess that was Reach. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS COMMENT AGAIN. Reach broke canon, THE END!
>>343828162
You reach fags are so insufferable. Sprint ruined Halo. Just like AA's and bloom did.
>>343847161
I would prefer 5 without sprint, but there are worse things in the game to worry about.
>>343847337
cry more and git gud.
I think we can all agree Reach was the best because it was the first game with playable femalesAnd hologram for seeing dat ass
>>343847228
>Did you even read the book, POA didn't have enough time to do all that shit
Did you? There's a point towards the end, before the ship flees, right around when all the Spartan casualties happen, where John is in cyro sleep where it the pickup could have happened.
>I have had enough you popping up every single fucking thread
Again, I don't know what the hell you are talking about. I'm not the only person who reads all the fucking EU material faggot
>>343846730
the armor is the only part of the elites that matter retard. those moronic designers at 343i butchered the armor and made it look horrible like pieces just super glued onto the elite.
anytime 343i comes up with something "original" design wise its absolute trash, its almost like the company is filled with tasteless hacks and we were spoiled by bungie or something
>>343846536
>that third 343 trailer
>literally "an ancient evil awakens"
>>343847442
You could change gender in halo 3.They jumped higher
>>343847443
I read that book over hundred times and no where does it say after picking up Chief POA went back to Reach for clone Cortana.
>>343847442
was looking for this post
also halo 3 was the first to let you play as female spartan but there was no physical difference. halo reach... yeah female model was a good... very good model.
>>343847337
>and bloom
>wah how dare automatics actually be somewhat balanced with precision weapons!
>>343847373
>the armor is the only part of the elites that matter retard
Except it's not you faggot, Reach elites look fucking stupid head on thanks to the fact you can see how retarded their faces look from that angle
>>343847627
>You could change gender in halo 3.
you could only change the voice
>>343847627
It only changed the voice. Imagine my disappointment when you could supposedly play a female Elite, and it wasn't what I wanted.
>>343847654
>no where does it say after picking up Chief POA went back to Reach for clone Cortana.
Because john was in fucking cyrosleep during when that happened so it was between chapters, how fucking dense are you?
>>343847442
>>343847627
>>343847689
I don't like how the female spartans in Reach, 4, and 5 all look so skinny, since they should be almost as musclar as males, but the fucking asses in reach and 5 make up for it.
>>343847694
Bloom on the automatic weapons is whatever, they still weren't balanced with the precision weapons in Reach. It was total cancer on precision weapons and was rightfully removed as soon as 343 got control of Reach.
>>343847515
Not that guy but Bungie even fucked up the Elites armor in Reach. Why is all of their armor over pronounced with all these protrusions and neon lights and shit. The Halo Trilogy Elites had none of that shit. I would sometimes get an Elite confused with a Brute in Firefight.
>>343847515
The one thing I really loved about Halo 3 was the matte saturated graphics
It was a nice respite from BLOOM EVERYTHING
>>343847442
reach treated the playable female right. she had a shaved head because she was a spartan. not like this eggheads shoehorned "POWERFUL FEMALE CHARACTER" garbage
>>343848046
Halo 3's graphics were shiny as fuck, though: Spartans looked like they were made of plastic due to how reflective they were
>>343847886
What's so great about Halo 5 asses?
I've never really paid attention to it.
>>343847886
>Between chapters
It was at the end of the book you idiot. After Chief was picked the ship jumped into slipspace and used the coordinates she got from THE FORERUNNER ARTIFACT THAT CHIEF AND BLUE TEAM'S MISSION ON SIGMA OCTANUS IV to reach Halo.
I never got to play halo because I always had PlayStation. Now that these new developers took over from bungee is halo shit? Are the new games coming to PC or is that something that will never happen?
>>343848415
5's multiplayer and Wars 1 & 2 are coming to PC.
>>343848415
All Microsoft studios games from now on are coming to W10, including Halo.
Halo 5 had great balance and mechanics but the actual content of the game (campaign, story, maps, gametypes, and visuals) were pretty lacking
>>343848576
>>343848475
Awesome I thought the master chief collection was getting ported though is that not happening?
>>343848328
No, nigga, there's a point where he's in cyro on the ship right around when RED FLAG got fucked over, Are you gonna make me open up my copy and fucking give you a page number?
>>343848282
You tell me
>>343848704
Not yet, but it probably will eventually
>>343848282
The panty line.
>>343828162
Reach had the best armor customization I've ever seen in a game, there were so many options and different ways to customize and that the tacticool shit looked absolutely perfect.
How they flew to the absolute peak of their art design and then 343 immediately nosedived into the marina trench is genuinely impressive.
>>343848282
Is this just an excuse to post Spartan booty?
>>343848780
Yes please post the page so we could see who is right so we could end this discussion.
>>343846995
>its a bug explosions dont look that bad in halo 5
start up halo 5 and shoot at a warthog until it explodes.
you are a fucking idiot and clearly have never played halo 5, the vehicle physics and particle effects/explosions feel like i'm playing an old call of duty
>>343829532
Just play SWAT or classic, tard.
>Objective: Survive
>>343849604
The only good mission in that game.
>>343828748
>not hologram master race
>>343849535
SWAT is garbage.
I'm so sick of halo 5 praise. it has serious content... but in all honesty 343i is such a sloppy developer there are still tons of mis-steps that makes it still feel like the game still never left early access early access.
>graphics are almost a joke compared to games like destiny
>the physics engine isn't even remotely fun or halo like at all, things don't even go into the air anymore which was a key part of halo 3/reach's fun element
>the particle effects are literally last gen
>spartans and things going on in the background drop to 15fps if they aren't right next to you which takes you out of the experience completely
>no blood, a game about war and genocide is rated T
>tons of mispelled aspects and little glitches and insanely stupid gameplay design elements that a real competent developer would never make
>seriously the physics and vehicle damage engine feels like it was worse than it was in halo 2 which is upsetting since this is supposed to be a next gen halo experience
>no co-operative flying vehicle aka gaping hole in vehicle sandbox 343i doesn't even realize needs fixing
>complete lack of gametypes
>no mvp and top medal in post game
>no real actual achievements for multiplayer
>no commendation progression that actually matters or keeps going past 100 kills with sed weapon, and some commendations are so glitched they don't even work in certain gametypes
>probably is the glitchiest xbox one game of all time, with some glitches making the game borderline unplayable (req station unable to load in probably 1/10th of games you play glitch) >sloppy design choices like wheelmans not giving assists so the scorebord looks like you were idling all game if you were a driver
horrendously bad graphics
tldr: the content and effort is all there, but if 343i really brings the polish and "smarter developers" to halo 6 we could have a serious 10/10 on our hands that blows literally everything else this gen out of the water.
>>343849978
>>no real actual achievements for multiplayer
>this is a bad thing
>>343850227
Oh shit it is
>>343830179
I hate 4s intro so much. Why do Spartan 2s, who wore Mark IV armor, wear Chiefs upgraded Mark 6?
>We'll never get a gritty Halo ever again
>We're stuck with 343lo's single futureshit aesthetic for every game from now on
>>343850982
Artstyle decision
Because Bungie knew it was their last go and threw everything and the kitchen sink at it.
>>343828162
It wasn't though?
The music was the worst in the series
Voice acting was all monotone
The generic marines put more effort in
Also death scenes didnt make any sense
>>343850982
Because the third party CGI team didn't want to make separate models for Mark IV, V, and classic VI. But none of the models you see in the prologue are canon.
>>343851048
Halo was never gritty to being with, go back to your ODST & Reach if you want that gritty shit.
>>343849693
Hologram was extremely good for the first month or two.
Then everyone finally caught on and it wasn't as good anymore.
>>343850839
Which is why Barneyfags should all be killed.
>>343830179
I sincerely despise 343's idea of what spartans ought to look like, I mean fuck me the Spartan IVs they've at least got some leeway to design their armour the way they want but what the fuck is Cheif wearing in Halo 4/5?
Just why?
When H2A proved that just doing a visual upgrade on Bungie's artwork produced the prettiest game in the series.
So long
>>343851048
>we'll never get a halo game where we play as a marine and the covenant are purposefully designed to be more powerful and scary compared to our mediocre human performance
>grunts and jackals are the same height as you, while everything else is massive
>fellow marines get dissolved and burned right in front of you from a single plasma rifle shot
Damn. I don't know if that would be fun to play, but I would play it for the atmosphere.
>>343851434
That's what makes me mad. They know what it's supposed to look like (and they do a damn good job at it) but they want to be unique.
>>343851579
>we'll never get a halo game where we play as a marine and the covenant are purposefully designed to be more powerful and scary compared to our mediocre human performance
Wouldn't that be odst? Aside from the scary thing, you're pretty weak in it
>>343851579
ODST was supposed to be that game but Bungie fucked it up.
>>343851354
>Halo was never gritty to being with
Literally this level onward and the game stops being so colorful
>>343846718
Those civilians aren't even fighting back. There's no honor to respect. Just watch Forward Unto Dawn. They slaughter soldiers without a second thought, why would they give a shit about average people
>>343851265
NOT CANON!!!
SUBSPECIES!!!
NANOBOTS!!!
>>343850227
FRIENDLY REMINDER
>>343834018
>jar jar binks
The very first scene of the first halo book basically established that grunts are regards that use mass swarm tactics and are about as smart as a dog. They're only threatening when they outnumber you 50/1.
>>343851883
That's atmospheric not gritty and both Keyes and Two Betrayals are colorful.
>>343851739
I'll be honest,I didn't play much odst
But from what I have played, I still felt like a spartan but with weaker melee, slightly restricted movement, and a different health system. Don't get me wrong, odst was a great game! but what I'd like to see is something with a completely different tone than the other halos.
I haven't played much of fear, but I picture a similar tone to that.
Armor abilities were fucking retarded. You are too young if you are already feeling nostalgia for that shit game.
>>343851963
I was talking about the armor in the prologue not Chief's in game armor.
>>343852289
>soon we will be seeing tons of people defending armor lock
>>343847140
I loved you bros during Reach. Most fun I've ever had.
>>343852394
I don't care
343 made a fun multiplayer and amazing forge with 5, but their handling of the story and universe is fucking terrible. If you're going to put something in your game, don't make it non-canon, don't try to explain it with bullshit excuses like subspecies and NANOBOTS
>>343832534
this
who else got hyped from this trailer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E95PeZ0qsLY
ODST>>>3>2>Reach>1>5>4
Did that Halo online thing ever amount to anything?
>>343828748
>Armor lock
>Enemy close to me on my left waits for it to run out
>Hold analog stick to the left
>Let go of armor lock and melee him
Feels good
>>343838128
>MY DICK IS SO HARD
>>343852049
WAIT WHAT THE FUCK
DID THIS ACTUALLY HAPPEN
>>343836825
2/4
>Halo 3 best campaign
>ODST best soundtrack
I'd argue its a tie between ODST and Reach for firefight. Also
>Halo 4 best forge
Only thing about it that was good but Reach's was still more fun
>>343853234
5 has better forge than any other game. The only thing 4 did right was Extraction.
>>343828748
i missed those days before 343 ruined it
>>343853234
4 definitely had theworstforge.
It didn't come anywhere close to halo reach and the amount of content from the community reflects that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMaKVDEBqoY
>>343828748
Life's hard when you're retarded, huh?
Armor lock lasted for like three seconds and was situational, just like most of the armor powers. And it was so satisfying to kill sprint sword fags with it. Although I might be biased because armor lock was good for berserker style close range fighting, and I was real good at outplaying people at close range.
All of the abilities were irritating in the right scenario. People just disliked armor lock because it made grenade spam less ridiculous
>>343849362
>start up halo 5 and shoot at a warthog until it explodes.
I spent the last 4 fucking hours blowing up warthogs and tanks in forge with the REQ weapon combination glitch, I think I know what the explosions look like, pic related
>b-but the vehicle disappeared!
Because it's forge and the object got deloaded.
>>343851048
>he hasn't seen the Halo wars 2 cutscenes
>>343851354
Litterally the first piece of halo media ever (the fall of reach) was gritty as fuck
>>343853218
All the time
>>343853982
4's forge was better then 3's, objectviely. It had more features and more canvases. 4 had a worse file sharing system, though.
>>343836825
>CE best campaign
Maybe relative to the time it came out, but not anymore. It's repetitive as fuck.
>>343851775
ODST did a decent job of it, it just was still being bound by being a halo game instead of a totally different style of game.
>>343852289
>>343852451
Did you also hate equipment in Halo 3? Or duel wielding in Halo 2?
Everybody on /v/ will use every excuse possible to shit on halo games they want to shit on and will ignore the stuff they do right. Every Halo game is good, but you can cherrypick shit to argue any of them are bad.
CEfags shit on 2, 2fags shit on 3, 3fags shit on ODST and reach, etc.
>>343854149
>Those visuals
Is this Halo CE?
I never really cared much for Reach. They tried to make it look good but it got laggy during the story mode at times. Never really bothered to finish it. I liked ODST more though. It drew me in a lot, and the soundtrack is pretty stellar when you're alone and the rain is falling, just enjoying the game and what it has to offer.
>>343854352
agreed. It's definitely better than 3's forge but only because it has the same features introduced by reach, which made it a lot easier
>>343854465
It's a forge map
To everyone in this thread who wants something grittier and has arma 3, try the operation trebuchet mod. UNSC vs insurrectionists, pre covenant. Really good blend of milsim and halo, and there's a nice DUWS rework someone made for it.also add me on steam if you want a group to play it with
>>343854201
I think this happened to me on /vr/ too. Granted I don't care for mlp, it was just as a joke to Quake.
Anyone remember that mod on Halo CE where there was a bunch of soldiers vs those alien things that shot that green shit?
Can one of you sprint haters please tell me how sprint supposedly ruined Halo?
>>343837191
This.
I was so mad when 343 ran that whole "we're going to have a popularity contest between standard matchmaking and some new shit and switch everything to the one that wins" thing, and then when the new shit got btfo, they went "lol, jk, we're going to switch half of the playlists to that new shit because fuck you".
And now, surprising nobody, when you boot up reach, there's only like 20 people outside of the standard matchmaking lobbies
>>343852750
Damn. I remember this.
Bungie was awesome with their trailers for Halo.
>>343852604
>their handling with the story and universe is terrible
As if Bungie did an incredible job with the story and universe with ODST & Reach.
>>343854352
>Better than 3's, objectively
What the fuck mate
>No movable objects
>Until the free apology map DLC there were only 3 workable Forge maps (as opposed to H3's maps, which were all workable until the very last map pack), all covered in shitty kill barriers with crap terrain
>Precision editing broken
>Pieces don't auto-snap properly at all
>Ordinance drops + loadouts instead of map weapons
The only thing it had over 3's Forge was that it still used Reach's editing tools, some of which didn't even fucking work (precision)
And what's even the point of using that shit when they neutered the fuck out of Customs
Seriously I want to know why you put H4's Forge above H3's
>>343852750
>Uphill both ways
My dick got hard.
>>343855460
I agree with all the flaws you mentioned being flaws with 4's forge (except the ordiance and weapon on map thing, you can choose to do those if you do or don't want in forge), but 3's forge lacked so, so much more then 4's lacked.
>>343850239
>this pic
>instantly reminded of file sharing service
>"In space no one can hear you scream"
>Batman
>lewd images drawn with guns
Good times.
>>343855810
H3's Forge community did a million times more with a thousand times less
The tools were a great addition to Reach, and Forge world was somehow good enough to stand on its own.
Halo 4's Forge maps were weak as fuck, while suffering all the same issues as Forge World and the issues with H4's Forge itself.
In H3, you had the ENTIRE map roster to do what you want with, with the sole exception of Guardian. You had actual variety in the colors and the terrain you could work with, as opposed to FW's grey and green with forerunner shit and H4's shitty cave slope + shitty space with kill barriers + shitty apology rock
And honestly, Halo 4's Forge community didn't really have much of a reason to keep going since >80% of the playerbase was gone six months in and customs were all but dead.
>>343856770
I'm not talking about community output, which I agree with you on. I'm solely talking about the functionality of the forge itself.
>>343855890
>Lewd images drawn with guns
>tfw you never figured out how to draw lewd girls out of guns
>>343828162
It was the worst bungie halo
good in comparison of 343's
>>343846834imo CE > Reach > 2 > 5 > 2A > 3 > 4
>>343856770
the only thing I don't agree with is that not all halo 3 maps were as forge friendly as you make them sound. It was really only foundry, darude sandbox, and avalanche that were effective for forge. All the other maps had predefined structures that you had to forge around, and no forgable structures that wouldn't get bumped by vehicles or explosions. However, that only enhances your claim
>H3's Forge community did a million times more with a thousand times less
which is very, VERY true. only the best forgers could really utilize maps like last resort and high ground, and when they did...
>>343854149
>>343849362
another webm demonsrating. Notice how the phaeton explodes into a satisfying shower of sparks and effects wheras the wratih and ghost don't: What happened with the warthog and the wraith and such is a bug
>>343857716
Use a gun that doesn't fire a million plasma nades next time. That makes the explosion appear much larger.
