Why did we ever care about Mighty Blunder 9 when a superior spiritual successor already exists?
Azure Striker Gunvolt wasn't that great, but then again I only played the 3DS version with the cut content.
It was better than Mighty No 9 i'll say that, what i've seen of Copen in the sequel looks better and he might be fun to play.
>>343825117
I have never played Gunvolt but I thought this was a successor to Gunstar Heroes
>>343825830
That would be more worth doing than a follow up to megaman of all things.
>>343825117
I will wait for steam release.
I hope they do not cut off the japanese language.
>>343827181
http://store.steampowered.com/app/388800/
>>343825117
M9 > Gunvolt
No contest. Gunvolt isn't even fun
>>343827681
http://www.strawpoll.me/10659837
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Favourite boss fight?
Speaking of boss fights, even after getting true end I'm still shit at Elise fights. What the heck?
>>343827975
So how much did you donate to Inafune's retirement fund?
>>343827809
I mean, the sequel.
So who's gonna watch the anime when it comes out?
>>343828883
Shit, I will. Why not right? I suspect it will probably be terrible, but hopefully it has good music or fight scenes or something.
Maybe I can seeJoule alive one last time
>>343825117
Gunvolt is fucking shit tho, the lightning gimmick is just as bad as MN9 absorb dash.
Why the fuck did the localisers think it would be a good idea to change the character names? It's fucking distracting having the dialogue and the text not match up. It's not like the names needed changing in the first place.
>>343830094
Most of the time I don't even realise it since I don't really pay attention to the voices (it's Jap, I don't understand it so why bother listening?) but it's really noticeable with skill names.
Like, Sunshine Nova becoming Refulgence. What the hell? There is literally no point changing that.
>>343830094
>>343830883
>8-4 localized it
I don't know what you expected
>>343831095
I don't pay attention to companies and individuals and stuff like that. I take it 8-4 does this thing often? What's their worst localisation for example?
>>343827975
I will try gunvolt after the release of sequel on steam.
I know it will take a long time but it is better than
importing the game to brazil.
Thanks Dilma.
>>343830883
>>343831095
I know jap as much as legit japaneses.
I won't buy japanese games what cut off japanese language from the options.
That ideology of mine goes beyond the idea fo MN9 is good or bad.
That's why I bough Senran Kagura too.
>>343825117
Have they confirmed that 2 is also coming to steam?
>>343831303
They've done the two recent Fire Emblem games, for example
>>343831850
Probably goes without saying.
>>343831951
Wait, that thing where they removed an entire support conversation between two ninja-like characters and replaced it with them "..." at each other?
Wow, fuck'em then. What the heck was that about? Why even do it?!
Wait aren't they doing that new Nier game too?
>>343832078
Xenoblade X Chronicles and Bravely Defaults too
>Wait aren't they doing that new Nier game too?
And OH FUCK THEY ARE? FUCK I AM MAD FUCK FUCK FUCK I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT GAME SO MUCH
>>343825117
ASG doesn't really play like Mega Man.
>>343831951
Correction, they did Awakening. Fates was done in house by Nintendo.
>>343831095
Wasn't it Inti that looked at the Gunvolt localization and told 8-4 "This is not going to cut it. Fix this."
>>343832359
I thought so. Did Awakening have any awful examples to the degree that Fates did?
>What is Shovel Knight?
>>343831850
I wouldn't be surpised if they didn't, 3DS version sold a lot more than Steam despite the shitty localization.
>>343832571
A very good game that houses a better game, Plague of Shadows?
I don't get much in terms of Mega Man vibes from Shovel Knight, though the inspiration is there.
>>343832184
they did the first Nier as well
>>343832571
I think people will care more again once those new expansions drop.
>>343832184
http://nichegamer.com/2016/07/04/8-4-handle-localizing-nier-automata/
“As for localisation, the team working on it is called 8-4.They actually changed a lot from the original script to fit the different regions,” said NieR: Automata director Taro Yoko. 8-4 is known for localizing games such as the original NieR, Drakengard 3, and Azure Striker Gunvolt, with the former having more adult dialogue cut, and the latter seeing its English release having lots of dialogue cut, or random pronouns thrown in."
Just pretend the game doesn't exist anon. You can't save it. Look away, it's already dead.
>>343832474
The only thing I'm aware of is the curtain over Tharja's swimsuit. Henry and Gregor were also changed some, but most people consider those changes for the better.
There's also all the pointless name changes, but literally every Fire Emblem does that, so it'd be weird if they actually didn't.
>>343825117
Marking enemies and then hitting a button to do damage disconnects you from the combat and is not fun. It is trying to get you to worry more about movement during combat, but it just makes you stand around like an idiot at times. Not saying MN9 also has a problem of not being fun but don't try and prop Gunvolt as some great thing.
>>343832861
I'm not familiar with Nier and Drakengard, but those are bleak games correct? Like, built to be grim, dark games that are rated M for a reason. What's gained from toning down on that stuff?
>>343833112
Yeah, you're right. It's filled with weird shit like the party member who is a pedophile and the elf girl who eats babies and the futanari girl with the demon cock or something.
Macabre, dark, depressing, violent and sexual. Clearly not intended for younger players at all, so why tone it down for younger players?
>>343828260
You know the reason.
>>343836401
No really, it's making some challenges impossible for me. I always end up jumping into knives or landing on a cobra or some shit.
>>343825117
Gunvolt might work as a MMZ successor but we still need one for the original.
But at this rate, Capcom will make a sequel to Roockman and Forte before that happens.
>>343825117
>being published by Yacht Club Games
Neat
>>343838145
They became a legit publisher now?
>>343838327
I guess so. I remember them being on a podcast a few months ago with 8-4 coincidentally enough and I think they were talking about looking into publishing beyond Shovel Knight.
They also shit talked Yooka Laylee and Banjo Kazooie, it left me with mixed feelings.
>>343838635
>They also shit talked Yooka Laylee and Banjo Kazooie
That's surprising to me. I'm not terribly offended as I'm not a fan of either, but I would think they'd appreciate trying to revive retro gamestyles.
>>343838635
What did they say about Yooka Laylee?
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/zugUWsJ.png "latest[1].png")
>>343832474
Fates was worse. They even removed most of the romance options for your son/daughter.
>>343826067
it already exists
>>343838902
who gives a shit about yooka laylee though
shovel knight is a way better game than it
>>343839879
Yeah, I figured. I keep hearing new horror stories about how they butchered Fates. These people have no business gutting authors' intentions. A game like fates doesn't even seem targeted at children to begin with.
>>343840071
Shovel Knight is more down my alley, but I'll reserve judgment for now. Yooka looks nice enough.
Gunvolt is a filthy shota killer.
>>343840274
>These people have no business gutting authors' intentions
This argument goes both ways actually. The developers and writers never intended for the marriage mechanics to be in the game to begin with. In fact at least half the developers were against the face touching minigame even being included.
>>343840554
>Gunvolt is a filthy hasubando killer.
Fixed that.
>>343840639
>The developers and writers never intended for the marriage mechanics to be in the game to begin with.
Really? Was this forced on them because of Awakening's popularity?
>In fact at least half the developers were against the face touching minigame even being included.
Most dissenting opinions we never hear because what ships is all most people see. Games are likely always full of compromises. Except in those cases where one person made a game. In the end, a feature was cut because they thought we couldn't handle it. I think I'd want a game as it shipped unless it means ADDING content.
so, gunvolt is becoming meme or something?
also, i love the game
>>343841565
>so, gunvolt is becoming meme or something?
I think people have started appreciating it more after seeing that yes, it's possible to fuck up a Mega Man-style game.
Comcept needs to do the industry a favor and file for bankruptcy.
>>343832571
Shovel knight has more in common with ducktales than with megaman, the only reason people relate the two is bacause every 8bit "retro" indie goes for megaman visuals
Gunvolt is ok but the default means of fighting enemies just feels tedious rather than fun.
Also is there any point to projecting that giant visual graphic of electricity besides making it hard to see what's going on?
>>343842053
And because of the 8 boss format. And because they're all named "____ Knight" instead of "____ Man." And also maybe the boss rush. They took several pretty core inspirations from Megaman, no matter how you slice it.
>>343842239
The lightning attack that hits tagged enemies?
>>343825117
Because Gunvolt is a spiritual successor to MMZ/ZX series. We all know how those are.
>>343842352
I'm saying is there any benefit to needing a giant ball of electricity rather than just bolts leading to enemies?
I hate how it obscures stuff.
I enjoy it as one of my favorite 3DS games but the tagging mechanic is kinda obnoxious.
Inti should seriously just the crap, give Gunvolt a saber and turn this game into the Zero clone they secretly want it to be.
>>343842545
It deflects certain projectiles.
What would happen if I managed to create a MMZ Ace Attorney Hybrid?You'll have to wait and see
>>343842053
>having more in common with duck tales
>literally only the bounce ability
>EIGHT FUCKING MAIN BOSSES AND THEIR VERY SPECIFIC THEMED STAGES
>no, it's more like duck tales bro
You can't be fucking serious
>>343825117
Gunvolt was fucking great.
Let's talk about Gunvolt.
How much did they spend on it? Less than 3.8 million?
>>343838635
Link to podcast?
>>343843212
http://www.giantbomb.com/podcasts/8-4-play-182016-yacht-rock/1600-1472/
>>343843180
Thinking about it, while I don't support the removal of all of the dialog, I've came to the realization thanks to Mn9, that having all of that dialog during gameplay is a huge hindrance.
>This boss works via audio cues
>INCLUDING HIS OHK
>lol dialog that plays over it
>>343843002
And even the bouncing ability has more in common with Zelda 2 than Ducktales, since you can't pogo off just ground.
>>343842634
I can't find the source but apparently inafune was the one that suggested a more gimmicky combat instead of a traditional one
I liked the 3DS versionPeople don't like it because it butchered the game in the localization but the constant dialog popping up in the Steam version is an awful idea and I'm glad they removed it
>>343842545
It's in purpose, it detonates missiles before they hit GV and blocks some projectiles but it's harder to see bullets when you're using it, so you have to pay attention to your surroundings if you want to keep your score high.
RAYZYRAYZA
>>343842545
It counts as an attack and hurts things inside it, albeit for much less damage than your tag+lightning combo. It's useful for getting rid of destroyable missiles and adding a DOT effect against bosses though.
>>343842634
>>343843734
Found it http://www.siliconera.com/2014/08/18/keiji-inafune-talks-contribution-azure-striker-gunvolt/
>“I was approached by [CEO] Mr. Aizu of Inti Creates, who showed me this game and asked me how to go about selling it,” Inafune says. “So, I told him to let me play through the game. I didn’t think much of it. It was just really dull and not worth releasing as a product.”
>“The potential was there,” Inafune adds. “Mr. Aizu really just wanted to know how to market the game, and all I did was criticize the action. But then he said, ‘Okay, we’ll change it.’ [I] couldn’t believe it. I told him my ideas and he agreed to them. So, I thought, might as well get involved.”
Considering how MN9 is also full of gimmicky gameplay, I'm pretty sure what he calls "dull" was a regular run and shoot game
>>343843494
It's shit but you could turn it off just by pressing a button, there was no reason to cut it from the game.
>>343843180
>How much did they spend on it? Less than 3.8 million?
Most of it was literally done on their free time before it became an actual game
not kidding.
Because the first one was a hot pile of garbage, just made me wish inticreates could still ploay with the megaman licence. That's all
>>343844241
Ekoro should be a playable character.
>>343844618
>Because the first one was a hot pile of garbage
nice meme
>>343840914
>tfw your game suddenly turns into a bullet hell in the middle of a boss battle
>>343845089
I'm surprised GalGun isn't getting censored. It really makes me wonder why some games get censored over minor stuff but then games like Senran Kagura appear with minor changes if any.
It's certainly not the power of the studio/developer or anything, I think all comes down to how much you're willing to fight for an uncensored game. And a lot of companies don't care at all.
>repeat the same line of dialogue over and over
>you feel closer to joule
Also I don't understand why they did the whole 'I quit Quill' thing at the start. No... I do understand the reasons behind it in story. But why did the devs even go to the lengths to set that up? You still take contracts from Quill, you're still briefed by them. You still talk to them. You are still literally a team member in all but name. What was the point of all that?
>>343845724
Theoretically it's to show how much Gunvolt cares about Joule and wants her to live a normal life, but he can't escape his fate and still has to fight regardless. Of course in the endJoule gets caught up in the fighting and dies anyway.
Either I'm overthinking this or the game had a poorly explained 2deep4u thing going on in the background.
>>343845695
I don't think ERSB cares about panty quests at all, they just rate them M and get done with it. Publishers censor stuff because they want a lower rating or , in NoA case, to keep a family friendly image. Galgun publisher gives zero fucks.
>>343845724
He goes freelance as opposed to spending all the time doing missions on quill in order to take care of joule. Specific missions are also given to GV as part of asimov ruse as well.
>>343833082
You still damage with the normal tagging. Its just not that much.
>>343845724
>>343846285
>>343846349
The real question isdid he fug Joule?
>>343844180
If I remember right, some guy asked on twitter or something to the effect of "the dialogue seems like it might be distracting. is there an option to turn it off?" and 8-4 responded with (I am quoting to the best of my memory) "good news! you won't have to worry about that, they wont be in the localized release!"
This was without mentioning the little fact that the japanese version had a fucking button to turn the dialogue off and on. They removed a feature and called it a service to the consumer.
>>343846442
Unless you're using Dullahan.
>>343846613
Oh then thats fucking stupid. I mean I personally didn't like the dialog but if there was an option to disable it, it wouldve been fine
Is that in the Steam version?
>>343846558
He's 14 or 15 and I think Joule is even younger, so probably not. Besides, Joule is not for sexualising.Lumen is.
I've been playing this game and I just beat the guy in the white hood the first time.
All I can say is... thank fucking christ I grinded challenges in the first two levels to get an airdash trinket. I didn't know about this extra level popping up and when it does it completely prevents you from doing any other mission.
What do you even do if you don't have a dash or hop ability for that fight? There doesn't seem to be any other way to dodge those 3 black orbs he shoots twice.
>>343846812
Steam lets you disable it, yes. So you still have both options.
>>343846902
Joule is 13, it's not that far away.
GV is just too dense.
>>343837879
>Capcom will make a sequel to Roockman and Forte before that happens
welcome to 1999
>>343846969
Use your flashfield in the air to slow your descent and time it carefully.
>>343847041
I can't exactly blame him for that, considering his age.
>>343846558
Unless he is a massive faggot he had a threesome with her and Lumen.
>>343846902
A scenario where two people of similar age live together in such intense circumstances would realistically end in sex.
Only in animuish fantasies does this not happen because the girls are all idealized and 'pure' maidens who will literally cream themselves when you give them a token piece of jewelry. And the guys are all as dense as a lead brick.
>>343846812
Steam let's you pick from the gutted version, and the full version. After people who bought the 3DS version lost their shit about it, they first said that there wasn't enough space to house the new script. This being clear bullshit, they announced a patch to basically turn it into the Steam release in terms of content.
And here we are, months later, with no word. The trailer they showed off for the physical bundle release seems to be using the full script, so either they are releasing the bundle and the update simultaneously, or they are jewing us into buying the bundle to experience the update.
>>343847358
If they were a bit older, sure. 15 maybe, 16 probably. But like, they're around 13 and 14, I don't really think they'd be interested in sex yet. Too young man, just kids.
>>343847218
Is Lumen even physical? It seems like she's more like a hologram or something, looking at that fight with Nova.
>>343847638
>But like, they're around 13 and 14, I don't really think they'd be interested in sex yet. Too young man, just kids.
They are literally bundles of confused hormones on legs at that age.
>>343847638
>they're around 13 and 14, I don't really think they'd be interested in sex yet.
>>343825665
what did they cut on the 3ds?
>>343847638
When did you hit puberty, anon?
That is important.
By the time you are 13, you already have those sex hormones going up and down to you.
This usually means tablesex and unwanted boners everywhere.
>>343847737
>>343847972
I'm getting really concerned now. Are you guys just lolicon perverts or am I just fucking wrong?
>>343847638
>they're around 13 and 14, I don't really think they'd be interested in sex yet.
>>343847505
there's literally no advantage to the gutted version. you can enable or disable dialogue at any time by pressing a button (y iirc)
>>343838145
Is it getting a physical release like Shovel Knight?
>>343848343
You're fucking wrong.13-14 is definitely old enough to start thinking about sex.
>>343848592
There's a lot of people saying I'm wrong, and now I feel like I must be.
>>343848540
Yep. Sept 30th.
>>343848802
You might've been a late bloomer.
So are we saying if we left two 13 year olds in a room for long enough, they'd fuck? This thread is blowing my fucking mind.
>>343849525
Well, if they liked each other, it's a possibility,
>>343849525
this isn't just 'leaving in a room', this is months in each other's company with one being a cute, naive girl hugely dependant on her bold strong manly boii for security. And he was basically willing to throw his life away for her well being.
The real question iswhere is all the porn?
>>343849132
>Two months
>first game bundled with it
>Butchered content added back in
>>343850362
Game has to be popular enough for people to care.
>>343850362
It's all gay. Go check yourself.
Joule is cute, cant wait for her OVA.
>mfw at the ax panel where they announced it
Everyone had only inspiring things to say to Inafune, I was shocked
Speaking of MN9
What happened to the people that donated 10k to have a dinner with Inafune?
Did that ever actually happened?
>>343850942
I want to pat her head. So adorable, I love having more talk options in the Steam version.
I read that they will re-release Azure later in 3ds. Are they going to include all steam content or what?
>>343848242
All of the dialogue that occurs in-level. Without it, none of the boss characters are fleshed out at all.
>>343852064
From the reveal trailer it looks like they're using the Steam release translation and Gunvolt's midriff has been uncensored.
>>343852064
>>343852684
I didn't know about this.
Will it be free if I already own it?
>>343851793
>tfw still waiting for the 3DS patch
>>343852973
It is a re-release mate. You think it gonna be free?
>>343825117
>superior spiritual successor
>tagging system
Mmmm nope.
>>343852162
Odd, I only played the 3ds version but i remember plenty of dialogue in the stages. Are you sure?
>>343850942
Literally generic animu waif trash.
>>343852973
There'll be a patch for the eshop release of ASG. It will obviously not include ASG2.
>>343853227
When I played the 3DS version there was no in-stage dialogue, and it wasn't added until the Steam version. By in-stage dialogue I mean that there's action text that pops up while you're playing the stage, coupled with Japanese voice acting.
>>343853394
Certainly no voice acting but there was text pop ups for sure.
>>343848802
It depends on the environment. If you aren't exposed to older siblings and shit that care about it, you probably didn't either.
>>343855353
I had no older siblings and I was sex charged at that age.
>>343855608
And you didn't have friends obsessed with it? Parents that were open about it? Nothing?
>>343855682
I wasmolested by slightly older girls from a young age. My parents were in a band and I was often travelling along with them to their friends' houses and left to get up to mischief with their horny daughters while they played music.
>>343856006
Well, uh... damn dude. I wasn't expecting anything that straight forward. I wasn't even implying anything that drastic had to cause it.
>>343856006
>anon was living a shitty harem anime
>>343856243
>shitty harem
that sounds redundant
>>343825117
It had low budget and Gunvolt's tag gameplay needed something else since it always felt a bit stale.
