Does anyone actually give a fuck about Dishonored 2? Why was so much of Bethesda's press conference wasted on this shit?
>>343804980
I'm more excited for Dishonored 2 than any other game coming out this year.
>>343804980
I do. I liked the first one and this looks good so why not.
Dishonored is, without hyperbole, the best game Bethesda has ever developed or published.
It's a million times the game that the open world garbage they're used to putting out is.
>>343805308
Bethesda didn't develop it.
It's the strongest contender for GOTY and I say this as a huge Hitman fan that is loving the fuck out of the new one even with all its flaws.
>>343804980
Looks nice, never played the first but got it in the Steam sale because of E3. I'll probably have a better understanding when I'll be done with it. It looks good.
im excited for it and really looking forward to seeing how arkane improves upon the first game
>>343805393
I'm aware. That's why I said "or published".
>>343805445
I was in the same boat as you, finished both nain endings today and loved it. Good fun
>>343804980
It has a lot of potential, but I'm most excited for Absolver.
>>343805580
Main*
>Does anyone actually give a fuck about Dishonored 2?
Indeed, I believe so.
>>343804980
Fuck you, Dishonored is amazing.
>>343805826
>shall we go out for whiskey and cigars?
>I believe so
Automated guard banter was a mistake
You're a faggot, OP.
The first Dishonored is easily the game of 2012 and one of the best games of the last generation, if not the best.
It had flaws, no doubt, but it was still an easy 10/10 and if this sequel is half of what it promises to be, this will be another 10/10, an extremely strong GOTY candidate and a strong GOTG as well.
Rock on, gold dust woman...
Take your silver spoon... and dig your grave...
What are you on about
Name one or two games this year that you think will be better than Dishonored II
The only game in my opinion that has the potential to be better is Deus Ex:Mankind Divided
I'm excited. Dishonored was a fantastic game despite some glaring issues. So the fact that we're getting a sequel and they're seemingly working on shit that was bad about the original is great.
So far it looks pretty good. I love that you can refuse to use magic and shit. I'm definitely going to do a playthrough like that after my first one.
>>343805169
>>343805430
>>343805493
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>>343806238
Sometimes /v/ is alright.
It was the only good thing to come out of their conference
>>343805430
>It's the strongest contender for GOTY
ahem
>>343805445
I envy the fuck out of you. I wish I hadn't played through Dishonored and its DLC's a dozen times already. Wish I had that to keep me waiting until November.
>>343805826
NEVER DOUBT IT
>>343806770
What about it?
>>343805826
Shall we gather for whiskey and cigars tonight?
>>343806770
Three most likely GOTY are Hitman 6, Dishonored 2 or Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
With that said, Mankind Divided definitely seems like the least likely of them. Based on footage, it just looks like more Deus Ex: Human Revolution, with all of its same qualities and flaws. The story seems like it's gonna take itself even more seriously. Deus Ex, the series, has become a very different identity from Deus Ex, the first game.
I have it pre-ordered, but it's just gonna be a time-waster while I wait for Dishonored 2 desu senpai.
>>343805308
>>343805186
>>343805169
>>343804980
>>343805430
>>343805445
>>343805620
>>343806592
Holy shit, these retards are the new Fromdrones.
Game looks average as fuck, but will be paised to shit on /v/. Disgusting.
>>343807101
Blow off, choffer.
>>343806770
>not excited for both
Yep. My most anticipated game.
>>343807296
You always amuse me.
>>343804980
Yes. Just because you don't care doesn't mean everyone else doesn't.
>>343804980
There were only a few games I have been excited for in the past couple of years.
X-Com 2, which blew dick
Fallout 4, which blew dick
Overwatch, which was overhyped
And Dishonored 2. And through all these other games failing I still have hope that DH2 will be as godlike as the first
So what was so good about the first one?
I'm playing it right now and all the locations consist of 2 streets and the game is 10 hours long.
Also everything is designed in such a way that it's shit easy to sneak around undetected as soon as you get the teleport move.
The whole magic dimension shit is also poorly tacked on.
>>343804980
First was a solid 8/10 I guess there just wasn't anything at E3 aside from Zelda anyone actually cared about.
>>343807778
There's actually 3 streets
>>343807296
Another night, another thread with you.
>>343807778
>game is 10 hours long
have you been playing it real slow?
>>343804980
Yeah, but not for the right reasons.
>>343804980
Yeah, the base game was good. DLC was even better so I'm excited with what 2 will have in store for us
>>343804980
honestly, its one of those games you wanna get on sale with all the dlc included
i can't imagine paying anything more than $20 for it
>>343807778
Don't look at the levels just horizontally, look at them vertically as well. Some are bigger and more open than others.
Ghosting through is easy if you just blink away all the time to your objective, but it's more fun to do it while exploring the environments for dialogue, notes, runes, shrines, etc.
It's also pretty fun to go on a second playthrough where you just use your powers to become a psycho killing machine. Especially to see all the differences in how the game reacts depending on chaos.
Good artstyle, good world building, good setting, it's a lot of fun.
Out of curiosity: Which level are you at?
>Stephen Russell voicing a sneaky sneaker again
Fuck you, I waited years for this.
If they handle Difficulty right in this one it will be GOTY.
>>343808110
this
>>343808335
I just got the same impression from it I got from RAGE.
The engine is there, the design is there, the characters are there, the gameplay is there, the locations are there but it feels like you got one quarter of an actual game.
>>343806448
gonna pirate for that bitch
>>343808110
Have it pre-ordered at 60 dollars, pretty sure it's the only game I'll buy at full price this year. Not gonna buy the collector's edition just because I never have any use for the silly physical shit.
>>343804980
Because Bethesda forgot to make anything good this year.
>>343808598
I disagree and I strongly doubt Dishonored 2 will be much longer than Dishonored 1 (or any longer at all)
The levels were meticulously designed and had plenty of depth in them. Same deal with the DLC. It's true you can rush through the game in like 2 hours but that's on you.
>>343804980
I am. It looked fucking amazing.
>>343808110
>>343808423
probably never spent more than $20 on a game in your life anyway so shut the fuck up
>>343808362They should have had new characters instead of re-using Corvo, Emily and Delilah. That's my biggest problem with this game so far.
>>343809032
>meticulously designed
hardly, it all felt very stage-y with very clear moron-level paths to solutions of any given task.
yeah you could have a couple of different approaches to any given thing but it was all very obvious so normies wouldnt get confused
>>343804980
The first game was alright, had some flaws but still kinda fun. Might give the second one a shot.
>>343809406
I really don't agree with you. The biggest strength of Dishonored is in how well designed the levels were. Deus Ex tier.
Best looking game yet to come out this year
I want more robots
>>343809748
>MFW they changed the creepy looking robots from the cinematic trailer with funny looking drones from the Star Wars prequels
>>343809309
They should have had Daud as a protagonist, show his efforts to clear up hisdishonouredname.
The great thing about Dishonored is that for once, nonlethal is actually a viable approach to the game. It's not half-assed either, in that it gives you the same outcome as the lethal approach, the outcome is completely different (some people you take the nonlethal approach on even make a cameo appearance later on).
Also the great thing about it is all the varied ways you can complete the mission, for example to assassinate your first target you can just go in and stab him in the face, or you can poison his wine, or you can take a nonlethal approach. This is fucking awesome from a gamer perspective. The only other game to offer you similar choices are maybe something like TES/Fallout where you have the choice to complete an assassination mission or not, but even then your choice usually has little to no effect on the world at large, and a nonlethal approach is rare if available. Hitman gives you many ways to assassinate your target, but is hindered by so many constraints, there's no nonlethal choice usually, and the stealth sucks absolute donkey dicks.
I'm more excited for it than any other 2016 game I can think of.... The first one was my favorite game in ages.
>>343809406
>but it was all very obvious so normies wouldnt get confused
I have a literal case study in front of me. My normie cousin (who actually loves Deus Ex HR, but plays every single game on the easiest difficulty) literally cannot stand Dishonored. She finds it too confusing. I played through half of the first level stealthing and she kept complaining how boring the game was.
Eat my ass, I'm excited for it. It's probably the game I'm honestly looking forward to this year.
TRULY CORVO WE HAVE BECOME.......DISHONORED TOO
>>343810172
Nah, they should have made a new cast of protagonists and antagonists and have Corvo, Emily and Daud only being mentioned or showing up once as cameos.
It would still be set in the same world and on a different isle, but it wouldn't have been as contrived. Re-using the exact same characters is a bit lazy of their part in my opinion. At least they're giving Corvo a voice and personality now, though.
>>343810460
nice anecdotes bro
>>343810216
Hitman is about plain sight stealthing though, completely different concept
>>343810216
Agreed with most of what you said but stop shitting on Hitman. Hitman is a great series as well and Blood Money is the best game ever. It has great stealth, it's just that it's a very different kind of stealth than what the traditional stealth game does. The heavy focus on disguises make Hitman very unique.
>>343810560
I'll never be paid to discuss games I love on /v/
>>343810216
>The great thing about Dishonored is that for once, nonlethal is actually a viable approach to the game
>Arkane was going broke and about to dissolve
>Bethesda saves them and helps them continue making excellent games
What a based company.
>>343811280
>being a nonlethal dickass thief
What a faggot.
>>343811409
Bethesda are among the worst developers but somehow the best publishers. It's very conflicting.
because they have no games
>>343811442
You're a thief, not a murderer.
>>343806554
>The only game in my opinion that has the potential to be better is Deus Ex:Mankind Divided
But Human Revolution wasn't that good, and the studio was responsible for both new Tomb Raiders and THIAF.
>>343811442
>thief
>going on killing sprees
>>343804980
I give TWO fucks about it
I'm decently excited about it. I just hope it's less of a collectathon than the first one. Developing your powers and upgrading your tools should come naturally as you complete your actual job. In the first game you spend 90% of your time digging through trash for money and looting apartments for fucking scrimshaw.
Also, while alternative routes are nice, they need to be better balanced. For example in the first game, you could get past a wall of light by using half of your mana to possess a rat and then crawl through a vent that leads to the other side. Or you could use no mana and just blink over the roof in half a second. At that point it becomes more an illusion of choice than an actual choice.
>>343807221
All square enix games except ff15 wont have a chance winning GOTY. Their nip overlord has determined that already.
It will be uncharted, dishonored 2, ff15, dark souls and a token walking sim/ indieshit.
But we all know pic related should win, to show what video game are all about
>>343804980
Been waiting for Dishonored 2 and Deus Ex: MKD all year, senpai.
>>343807296
Here's your (YOU).
>>343811850
I mean personal GOTY, not GOTY in whatever arbitrary site or award show you're referring to.
>>343807296
>Holy shit, these retards play videogames!
This is you
>Dishonored
>nonlethal was viable
wasn't the primary complaint about Dishonored that everything was designed to make you a more effective killer while pacifistic stealth got a big whopping pile of NOTHING? Aside for the game telling you killing people is bad. I mean sure you can go through levels with nothing but THE PROD and not kill everyone, but the game drops quad-powered bazooka launchers in your path and is like 'come on, player, just frag 'em all, it'll be so much faster'
>>343811903
>MKD
"Mankind" is one word.
>>343810560
>other people liked a video game that you didn't like
>THEY MUST BE SHILLS
summer
>>343807753
>excited for fallout 4
nigga, Todd and Hines didnt even lie half as much as fo3 or skyrim.
>>343811620
TH13F was the greatest game of 2013
>>343812027
The upgrades were divided about 50/50 when it came to being geared towards stealth or murder.
Nonlethal was totally viable; it may not have been as easy as lethal, but that's the way it should be.
>>343807296
t. BF 1 dev
>>343809406
Then you probably didn't see the other options that aren't for morons
>>343812258
That's not funny. Don't even joke about that, anon. You've crossed the line.
>>343812027
It's funny you bring up Deus Ex because that's the perfect comparison.
Deus Ex cared if you went non-lethal or if you went lethal and its world changed based on that choice (not as much as Dishonored does, but still)
You can go around using sleep arrows and choking people out or just straight up passing by them without touching them and being seen, Thief-ghost style. Or you can slash them up, shoot them, push them off roofs, have rats eat them up and go on a time-stop massacre.
The game is fun both ways (obviously more fun in whichever way you prefer) and it reacts on how you do it.
The complaint people have is that there's a lot of fags that go "Waaah I killed everyone in my path, why did I get a darker ending?" which is fucking ridiculous.
>>343812027
You can't use most of the stronger guns(exploding bolts, etc) and you literally can't fight the Tall Boys. Also what would've been a god send to Pacifist Stealth is bodies dissolve into ash but that's ONLY on kills.
Also some of the "peaceful" resolutions for your targets are kind of dumb. Like when you help a dude kidnap a woman to be his rape slave for the rest of her life. Slackjaw magically dealing with the two brothers was a bit of a stretch if karmically fitting. The whole Granny vs Slackjaw scene is honestly better skipped because it's such a fucking hassle on Ghost.
Dishonored still a GOTY and DH2 gon be gud.
>>343811850
>It will be uncharted, dishonored 2, ff15, dark souls and a token walking sim/ indieshit.
Dishonored no, not a big enough cash cow for Bethesda to pay for GOTY nominations. They'll push Skyrim "Remastered" instead.
>>343812027
There are no prods and quad bazookas on Dishonored. Are you thinking of a different game?
>>343812579
>Also what would've been a god send to Pacifist Stealth is bodies dissolve into ash but that's ONLY on kills.
Just to be clear, you want to dissolve the body of a person who is still alive, and want that to not count as a kill.
>>343808812
We have a while to wait for Quake Champions. Hopefully Fallout 4 DLC will tide us over until them.
>>343812701
Actually, I'm pretty sure Dishonored rightfully won the Keighleys.
>>343812027
it was viable as the game isnt tedious to play and lethal/nonlethal produce different long term narrative/gameplay consequences outside scores.
>everything was designed to make you a more effective killer
and a more effective stealther as well. you can even play "action-stealth" if you want. 90% of the gadgets are for killing but 50% of the power arent about killing.
>>343812579
The nonlethal solutions were never meant to be "peaceful," they were supposed to be "fates worse than death."
>>343812548
this, i only killed about half the enemies in my run, and i got the good ending. its not hard.
>>343812027
It was perfectly viable but it was more repetitive than lethal since there was less equipment for it.
>>343804980
>/v/: Does anyone actually give a fuck about Video Games? Why is so much press conference wasted on this shit?
Babby's first Thief
>>343812965
I thought there was equipment enough, to be honest. The DLC did add some, though, and I think it's been confirmed all that equipment is in Dishonored 2.
>>343813017
Thief is babbys first Thief
>>343807296
>butthurt sonypony no one cares about blunderborne anymore
get over it the game was ruined by being a ps4 exclusive
>>343812731
Gameplay mechanic. How about I knock a guy out and the shadows shroud him?
>>343812701
This year they have doom or dishonored 2
Doom is too fun for goty. Best fps maybe.
So dishonored must win something more substantial.
>>343813017
>Huge Thief fan
>Love 1 and 2 to death
>Still waste my time playing new Thief 2 and The Dark Mod fan missions
>I love Dishonored just as much
What now, bitch?Also, I'd say Dishonored is more Deus Ex than Thief.
>>343804980
I expected good stealth or fun melee combat, got neither. Dark Messiah was so much better.
They didn't have anything else to show.
>>343812701
I forgot all about Skyrim Remastered. I need to rebait my hooks with that.
I'm looking forward to it, but I'm disappointed by the character design. Emile doesn't look good and Corvo doesn't look like a grizzled version of his Dishonored 1 self, which was goat.
I just hope they include a New Game+ mode.
>>343813302
I agree with that
Thanks for reminding me to platnium Dishonored and finish the Daud stuff
>>343804980
first one was good.
i hate sperg faggots like you op. literally "stop liking what I don't like" the post
fucking get a life bro
>>343813519
I don't mind Emily's design but I agree on Corvo's design. I really dislike his attire. I get that it's the attire of the royal protector and all that, but it makes him look like a little bitch. The attire in the first game was much cooler.
Bless the fact this is an FPS game, I suppose.
>>343807296
>>343804980
kys
>>343813830
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN
>>343804980
Jesus, Yes, I do give a fuck. I am fucking excited FOR FUCK'S SAKE!
Who would want to play as Emily and her rip-off powers?
Especially when you can play as Big Boss?
Here's hoping they don't bring darkvision back. That was the most casual shitter power ever, and yet you kind of felt compelled to take it in order to find all of the loot hidden in satan's asshole.
>>343806448
Did she make you cry?
Make you break down?
Shatter your illusions of love?
>>343813793
Corvo's attire in the first game IS the garb of the Lord Protector, it appears in the credits as he's standing watch over Emily while she's holding court. The new clothes make him look like a back alley thug more than anything.
I hope my buddy Daud managed to get a nice comfy retirement. He deserved it in my kind of playthrough.
>>343804980
I am hyped for it. First one showed a lot of promise and was pretty good. Looks liek they're makign the same mistakes again but still, story and setting....
>>343814151
Someone suggested going through each level as both characters before moving on to the next one, and I've been having a very hard time trying to convince myself not to do that.
>>343811409
I just want some good company to buy Arkane
>>343807296
>>343804980
I really don't get dishonored was a really shitty game with mediocre stealth fps mechanics that were boring even on the hardest difficulty. I don't really get it, thief did everything this game tried to do but didn't fail 20 years ago, why is this game praised as something other than complete mediocrity? It baffles me honestly.
>>343814383
This is the attire he had during the game. It looks much more rough and grizzled. I prefer it way more to Dishonored 2's.
>>343814662
>It looks much more rough and grizzled
he didnt live in a palace during the 1st game.
>>343814383
If this is actually Corvo's new outfit, he looks like a really stupid hipster more than anything else. He probably has a pink handlebar mustache under his mask.
>>343814660
>This game is mediocre because it's arguably not as good as two of the best games ever
>>343814843
Yeah, like I said, I know the logic for why his attire looks more royal now, but I still think it looks gay.
>>343814852
So fucking gay.
>>343814852
What if his clothes got roughed up as the game went on? Like in Spec Ops?
>>343814885
Even if you remove the thief comparison and the first stealth game I ever played was dishonored, I would still have the same view. It's just a seriously mediocre game, why is it so praised?
>>343814843
>Lord Protector of the Empire of the Isles
>somehow doesn't live in the Imperial Palace alongside the charges he's tasked with protecting
?????
Do you mean DURING the game? Because that doesn't change much, his ordinary royal clothes are still shown
>>343815073
Honestly they didn't have to fix what wasn't broken. His coat from the first game looked great and suited him perfectly. If they HAD to change his outfit to reflect his aging, I'd rather have something more along the lines of Daud's outfit. At least that looked practical.
>>343814885
this is how /v/ works
They compare everything to the best of the genre and can't get satisfied.dumb frogposter
>>343815237
To be fair to that anon, he was coming back from some sort of trip across the isles, so he hadn't had the chance to brush up his outfit in quite a while.
>>343815162
It's a fun stealth game (and fun as an action game as well) with great level design. Don't know what to tell you.
Yeah, I would actually like killing Campbell again to get access to his "basement"
>>343814852
When I first saw this picture, I thought for sure this was gonna be some sort of edgy antagonist trying to impersonate Corvo. Really disappointed that this is his design.
>>343815469
kek, whatever you say man, enjoy dishonored goy 2
>>343815657
Thanks, man. What an enlightening discussion we had.
>>343813706
The fuck is this image?
>>343815760
>hey why is this game so praised
>proceeds to use buzzwords like fun and level design without going into detail almost like he can't really find the right words to really praise it because he himself probably know's it's mediocre.
Kekkles.
>>343816115
>People discussing a video game they enjoy
>Why do you enjoy it? It's mediocre because I said so
Truly enlightening.
>>343815469
>It's a fun stealth game
false
>>343816237
I already said that the main core element which is the fps stealth is mediocre. The upgrade system is also really shitty and the story doesn't really go anywhere near the end and falls apart at the last chapter. The melee combat in particular feels sluggish and the animations are really bad, you could chalk that up to design choices with the design though, but really it just isn't that great of a game.
>>343810460
>she
there you go mate
>>343816470
I liked it a lot, so did other people. You did not.
>>343816470
Nice buzzwords.
>>343817137
It's a niche game for sure, but my original posts true intention was to help me understand why such a mediocre game that is getting a sequel is getting hyped up. It doesn't really make sense at all. It wasn't a bad game, but a mediocre one.
I liked the first because it had mystery and stuff.
Why did they confirm Corvo as Emiliy's father?
Why did the Empress learn to fight?
They should've made it different characters, seem too much to have the same characters "dishonored" again
>>343818385
>Why did they confirm Corvo as Emiliy's father?
It was pretty obvious anyway.
>>343818385
Agreed, and they're bringing Delilah back too for no good reason. We already thwarted her? Why not have new villains?
>>343811280
True, though the outcome of Thief missions never changed regardless of how many people you killed.
I did do a full nonlethal approach for all missions for Gold and TMA though.
>>343812027
Nonlethal players don't need anything except blink.
>>343817430
Okay, I don't know if you're serious or not, but I'll break it down for you.
It's a good game. It's not the best there ever was, and it had its flaws, sure. But it's overall a good game. Why was it so praised? Because it's been a long-ass time since we had a stealth game with at least a resemblance of choice and good, quality gameplay.
The game is praised so highly because we haven't had one like it for a long time. This applies to Undertale as well, the game is good, but what made it great was because we haven't had a game like it in a really long time.
>>343818721
Yeah but it was better uncertain, and it probably should've been kept unspoken in game.
I'd prefer a different era or a different cast.
I don't mind playing as Emily, but I mean is every member of this family super skilled in stealth and a target of a couple of conspiracies every year or so? I guess it's better than just Corvo saving Emily again
>>343819179
Something isn't good because you haven't had that good thing in a long time, you just admitted it's own mediocrity if you couldn't enjoy that same game if there was a flood of stealth based fps on the market. You confuse me.
>>343804980
maybe if the female was hotter
>>343804980
First one sold like 4 million copies. It's their next big franchise. It's also way better than shit like Wolfenstein: Modern Warfare and D44m.
>>343819792
And a billion times better than Elder Scrolls or Fallout after 2.
>>343816470
Care to elaborate on all of that shit?
>The upgrade system is also really shitty
what's shitty about it? you get upgrades to be harder faster better stronger. 70% of the upgrades are not directly related to combat. weapons are, a fucking surprise, for killing in various tactical way.
they have an "action stealth" focus. as in you can take direct, fast, decisive action to stealth instead of planning, ghosting, hiding like most other stealth titles.
>dishonored
>sluggish
nice meme buddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4rZYpByZQo
>>343819628>>343819792
>>343819872
>>343819981
Blow off, choffer
>>343806770
Dishonored is a better Deus Ex game than Human Revolution. Also Deus Ex has only gone downhill since the first one.
>>343819792
4 millions copy is good, but not shooter and open world good.
>>343812027
The problem is that non-lethal was boring and easy as fuck while lethal was the best murder simulator of last gen.
>>343818385
Because they hired a feminist to write the sequel, and women can't actually create their own ideas that aren't terrible so they raped the lore from the first game and turned Emily into a strong womyn who can also use magic and is also a master assassin and also the empress and also everyone loves her because she is so strong and amazing.
>>343820147
Shooters don't sell that well outside of games sold by Activision and EA.
>>343819872
I did liked Skyrim, would be nice to see some Dishonored influence in the next ES.
>>343819482
Are you really having such a hard time understanding this? That's exactly the case with video games. Why do you think the FPS market hasn't really been praised in a while, because it was ridiculously oversaturated. Games like Spec Ops: The Line that were truly great barely got a mention because nobody played it because there was so much FPS shit on the market.
Overwatch is the exact same thing, it's basically TF2, just new and shiny. We haven't had a good TF2-like game since, well, TF2. There were a couple attempts but nothing solid. And here comes Overwatch that basically delivers on all those fronts and wham, huge success.
I'm really more confused how something as simple as this confuses you. If you haven't had Chinese food in like, months, wouldn't it be great to order some again? It's the same thing in the gaming industry. A lot of games get praised and become famous not because of their outstanding gameplay, but because of the fact that they're pretty good and we haven't had something quite like them for a while.
Telltale's huge success with The Walking Dead Season 1 is also a pretty good example for that, if you want another one.
>>343804980
the first game was OK but overrated as hell. absolutely mediocre story with retarded ending, OK gameplay that was destroyed and trivialized by overpowered abilities (blink)
>>343820619
>Spec Ops: The Line
That's not a FPS, and it's gameplay is shit, SHIT.
>>343820380
multiplayer shooter not by valve or blizzard all die long or slow death.
most decent singleplayer shooter have respectable sales and sequels: shadow warrior, cucklands, metro, serious sam...
d44m and wolfenstein are the fucking bombs.
>>343820778
Right, sorry, FPS was the wrong word. Let me rephrase it to "generic military shooter".
>>343819792
>It's their next big franchise
So they're going to run it into the ground, great.
Have they revealed anything about the setting?
Did the whales go extinct?
Will everything look like the 1930's from our history?
The boss will be someone like Karras from Thief II. Calling it now.
>>343820619
Overwatch is miles ahead of tf2, that comparison doesn't apply at all, and fundamentally they are completely different games. The quality jump from tf2 is immense, and noone gave a fuck about tf2 for a very long time so noone played overwatch because they wanted something new, it was because it was a great team based fps game.
That comparison is retarded.
Spec Ops the line is a third person shooter so that comparison is also retarded.
And the walking dead is filling the void of what exactly? Are you stupid?
>>343820817
Bethesda has insane amounts of shekels from their big money-making franchises, they can keep releasing random FPS to see what it sticks, they don't have to care about not making a lot of money from those.
But Dishonored has an actual chance of selling as well as shit like Half-Life 2, Bioshock Infinite and old Halo. Also Borderlands sells really well, although that's a co-op franchise.
>>343818790
Well, it changes if you're playing on expert, in that the game ends immediately.
>>343821037
I wouldn't mind five Dishonored games as long as they were all improved upon each other in a good way and had a good development cycle of 4 years.
I do hope they don't turn it into Assassin's Creed and have one come out every year, though, even I would get sick of them by that point.
>>343820902
>generic military shooter
I can think of many "generic military shooters" with good gameplay.
>>343821061
>Overwatch is miles ahead of tf2Here is your (You).
>>343821061
>fundamentally they are completely different games
Confirmed for someone who has never, ever played both games. How much does Blizzard pay you per post? Are you based in India or Vietnam?
>>343821208
If that was the case they would have alternate tes/fallout every year. They didnt.
But they fully intent on release mmo, moba, mobile, card game, multiplayer only spinoffs.
>>343821053
The setting is inspired by tropical British colonies.
>>343821053
Here's what they revealed, from memory
>15 years after Dishonored 1
>Starts and ends in Dunwall, but the vast majority of the game takes place in Serkonos, there's already plenty of information in the first game about Serkonos that you can go look up
>There's some sort of plague equivalent with those blood flies
>This setting relies a lot on wind for its technology because it's a coastal land
>You play as Corvo or Emily trying to get back their kingdom
>Delilah is back and she somehow managed to make herself the new empress
>>343821053
>Talk
>A
>>343821061
>walking dead is filling what void exactly
Non indie adventure game.
>>343821340
>>343821437
TF2 getsboring really fast and I only played the beta for Overwatch, the class system is completely different from tf2 and even though it doesn't take skill it isn't running on the shitty source engine and actually has a great art style with some pretty solid gameplay. It's still a game for babies who never played Quake but I can see why it's more popular than tf2. TF2 is fucking garbage and lost steam very fast after it came out.
>>343820817
>>343820380
>Shooters don't sell that well outside of games sold by Activision and EA.
>multiplayer shooter not by valve or blizzard all die long or slow death.
Maybe if these recent shooters had some content and features beyond online-only MP that requires paid online on console and a 5-hour single-player campaign they wouldn't die so quickly. Halo, for example, stayed popular for a very long time in part due to its offline and local features. You had other shit to do when you got bored with playing online, you could have friends over to play, you could make your own maps and gametypes, etc. Even CoD still retains some of these offline features. Games have no staying power today because publishers are cutting more corners and trying to monetize absolutely everything.
>>343821440
Bethesda current model seems to be more similar like the one Nintendo has, release big franchises every once in a while, then make a bug of lesser games and spin-offs at the same time.
I just hope Arkane helps them with Elder Scrolls VI so it has better melee combat and magic.
>>343821676
What are you talking about? Are you talking about point and click adventure games? because there are plenty of adventure games that are not point in click out there. How long did you have to think about that comparison so I wouldn't call you out on being retarded? Because you failed.
>>343821459
Info of Serkonos in Dishonored 1:
[Excerpt from a volume on Serkonos geography and culture]
Serkonos, the jewel of the South, is best known for its warm winds, spiced foods and endless beaches. While the city of Cullero sees the heaviest flow of travelers from across the Isles, Karnaca, on the Southernmost edge of the known world, is preferered [sic] among the elite of the Empire. It is said that a month spent resting beneath the sun of the beaches of Serkonos, or within one of the rural villages, can cure most maladies. Travelers bring back recipes and styles from the South, and the dances that all Serkonans learn in their youth are favored in Gristol for their sensuality, copied by the fashionable aristocracy in the capital city of Dunwall.
The only persistent trouble in Serkonos originates along the string of tiny islands stretching away from the mainland to the East. For generations, pirates have hidden among this archipelago, raiding traders passing between the Isles and, more recently, attacking whaling ships returning with rich stores of oil.
>>343821704
>TF2 gets boring really fast
You are not even trying anymore.
More than half the classes play extremely similar to classes from TF2, for example there are 3 fucking engineer classes that all perform roles that the original Engineer already did.
>>343821235
all dying except the big three: cod, bf, cs.
they cant support something meaningful like a tourney nor can they cater to a variety of tastes or moddability to keep player coming back like arma.
Most of them turn to the obvious solution: microtransaction and grind for meaningless ranks.
generic military fps is deader than rts. they relegate to indiecrap while rts can still stay at AA level.
>>343821842
[Excerpt from a guide to port cities across the Empire of the Isles]
Cullero, Serkonos: This city is crowded in the warmer months, and for a good reason. You’ll find yourself shoulder to shoulder with scantily clad locals and foreigners on holiday, pale skin burned pink by the sun, which somehow seems larger and brighter in Serkonos. The food in Cullero is a shining example of Serkonan cuisine, and there is always music, always dancing. Hand-rolled on the steps of tobacco shops, the cigars are of course fresher than the ones you’ve had shipped to other parts of the Empire.
Karnaca, Serkonos: The Jewel of the South at the Edge of the World. The city is bustling with industry, after a wave of settlers from Morley, and an influx of wealthy trading companies from Dunwall. Everywhere you go in Karnaca, there are new ideas: hybrid forms of music, groundbreaking theories of natural philosophy, and even extravagant delicacies made by mixing ingredients from all the known cultures. The locals work tirelessly for their coin, welcoming the elite from across the Isles.
>>343821713
Battlefront sold like 14 million without any of that.
>>343821905
I think there's only one hero that builds turrets, and that's the dwarves, don't the other two heroes turn into turrets themselves? I'm not saying that they aren't similar games, they have similarities, just that they are fundamentally different. And even if you don't agree with me, overwatch is better than tf2 ever will be if you are comparing casual team based fps for babies.
>>343821905
Other than the dwarf hero what else is similar to tf2? One of the heroes has a rocket launcher so that character is soldier? You're really grasping at straws here.
Wait has a new trailer been released?
>>343822080
[Excerpt from a report commissioned by the Royal Spymaster]
Later installments in this series will cover the mines of Serkonos
Also, other facts about Serkonos:
-It's the birthplace of both Corvo and Daud
-Like Dunwall is based on England, Serkonos is based on the Southern Countries of Europe like Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal
>>343821993
There are games that sell well enough like Red Orchestra and Insurgency. You don't need to sell as much as CS in order to be successful.
>>343822409
Later installments in this series will cover the mines of Serkonos, where prisoners must work in order to survive
>>343822196
>I think there's only one hero that builds turrets
Stop posting if you have no idea of what you are talking about.
>>343822306
>One of the heroes has a rocket launcher so that character is soldier?
Pharah is a brain-dead version of the soldier, it was designed so even babies could master her right away. If you played Soldier for any good amount of time in TF2 you would know this.
>>343804980
I don't understand why they added another playable character and a female nonetheless.
Why the fuck would you not play as Corvo.
>>343821745
arkane dont even want to touch bethesda's magnificent tech, you dunce. not like it is too hard with their curren tech, fusrohdah or pain train can do the same thing kicking do in dmomm, skyrim mods make npcs and player slip, fall and ragdoll, destructible environment... all that crap. Todd doesnt design shit, he just throw features in and out on a whim or in the name of consoles.
>>343822587
I'm pretty sure only the dwarf builds turrets, I only played the beta, but that was all I needed to see that this game would be a hit with blizzard. And well well, we have a brie camel poster from /tv/. God damn I could smell the stupidity on you from a mile son. Here's brie's true form.
>>343811442
>Not playing on Expert
You're the real faggot
>>343822712
Different powers mang
>>343822690
I do know this, but soldier is probably the only thing that takes skill which 95% of the mains for it don't even use because rocket jumping is hard for them and only old quake players really utilized, so it's a moot point honestly.
>>343822712
>not wanting to play as a grown up Emily
>>343814660
Welcome to the modern game industry, where people think Pillars of Eternity is on Par with Baldurs Gate 2, and that Dishonored was a good stealth game. Dishonored was at least a somewhat enjoyable game all flaws aside, unlike that dogshit Pillars. You share a board with a bunch of people that were in diapers 10 years ago or close to it.
>>343822741
I already told you to stop posting so you don't embarrass yourself any further.
>>343822712
because they dont want to nerf him or bloat the hotkey bar.
>>343822712
I dunno but I'm still going to play Corvo
>>343822991
Either post definitive proof that there are more than that hero I mentioned that copied tf2 or concede the argument. Honestly man it's so plainly obvious that you are deflecting it's not even funny. Ever since I blew you the fuck out from your shitty comparison post you've been shifting the argument ever since to back pedal the fuck out of your losing side.
>>343822843
>rocket jumping is hard
This is the modern FPS audience, look at it and despair.
is playing dishonored during the holidays the comfiest thing or what bros?
i plan to play both on November
>>343821631
Consoles exist
>>343815313
>Someone makes a great game
>every company ignores how it improved the genre and just makes games with a fraction of the intelligent design and mechanics because it all flew straight over their heads.
>Everyone complains
I wonder why. Maybe if people improved on games that came before them instead of dumbing them down, people wouldn't complain. Call me crazy, but I think I'm on to something here.
>>343823128
Forgot my Brighton Camelo complementary pic, she looks like the camel mascot.
>>343823141
I can rocket jump, I played quake for 15 years, but 95% of the people who play tf2 don't even utilize it so why even bring it up in an argument as it somehow validates that soldier takes an immense amount of skill when noone does it?
>>343822789
>>343822712
>>343823056
Oh, the girl doesn't have blink? That would be pretty awesome. Was OP and made the original game pretty boring for me
>>343823128
Any idiot who has played Overwatch for more than a couple hours knows there are two heroes that build turrets. And that Bastion is basically a brain-dead version of a Wrangler Engineer.
Just go back to your containment website kid.
>>343822879
>wanting to play the dumb dyke rather than the grizzled veteran
Think you'll get your own squad after what happened last night?
>>343823297
>I can rocket jump
Woah lad we have a super-skilled FPS expert over here, I bet he had to play thousands of hours in order to master this super l33t skill.
>>343823394
And this makes overwatch a carbon copy of tf2? You're kinda proving my point kid. Any other classes that are rip offs from tf2? I can see junkrat being an engineer but he actually plays differently.
>>343822191
How many of those 14 million are still playing it though? Few, I'd wager. It sold well but has no staying power, there's little to it. I bet lots of people wound up trading the game back as well.
Publishers know most of their sales come in the launch window, so they get as many customers as possible to pay or the game and season pass upfront before release. Doesn't matter how many people actually keep playing, they already sunk ~$100 into it. And they'll do it again in six months for the next high-profile game.
Publishers are cutting more and more corners and we're not getting anything out of it. The majority of costs associated with games used to be in manufacturing, but discs and digital distribution have changed that immensely. the most expensive games ever made are so due to manufacturing costs. SFII and Mario world are two of the most expensive games ever made because Nintendo and Capcom spent almost half a billion producing carts. Development costs haven't gone up too much either, adjusted for inflation. FF7, for example, would have a development budget of around $70 million and a marketing budget of $100 if it were made today.
The costs generally aren't much higher, publishers are just cutting corners and stripping out features while trying to monetize absolutely everything. Lots of microtransactions and DLC splinter your playerbase, lack of features like local play, or anything beyond online MP, hurts your game's longevity overall and devalues it as a product. Games today have no staying power because that's what publishers want, so they can sell you more games.
>>343823413
I can also play both, which is what I am planning to do anyway.
>>343823636
>being a demo
>>343823595
I can also play Quake competitively, surprisingly you would think that rocket jumping is very skillful because 95% of the soldier mains in tf2 are too brain dead to actually do it.
>those shitty slum sections towards the end of the game
>Punished for playing lethally renders 90% of the gameplay options and abilities redundant
>Non lethal is boring
>Terrible story
>Literally only good levels were the bathhouse, the party and the island tower at the end, and 2 of those were E3 gameplay demos
Dishonoured was mediocre
>>343823790
>Punished for playing lethally renders 90% of the gameplay options and abilities redundant
I fucking hate this meme
>>343823636
>And this makes overwatch a carbon copy of tf2?
No, the fact that OW is a carbon copy of TF2 is what makes OW a carbon copy of TF2. The modes are identical, the level design is a subpar imitation, projectiles and hitscan work the same for the most part (even having the same gigantic hit boxes for arrows), most of the classes are extremely similar to the ones in Valve's game.
Anyone who has actually played both games would know it's just a poor imitation of a better game.
>>343823475
Never doubt it.
>>343823739
If you cannot rocket jump as a Soldier then you are not a Soldier main.
>>343823973
Truth hurts
>>343824076
Dude is english not your first language? Reread my posts again, and actually try to comprehend english.
>>343823790
>>Punished for playing lethally
>replacing the MC with a woman to be "politically correct"
I don't give a fuck if they changed it, the fact they needed a fan backlash to bring the main fucking character back for the sequel of his own game is pathetic. Die.
>>343823987
>projectiles and hitscan work the same
did you hear that guys, the projectiles are projectiles and the hitscans scan hits. it's the same game.
People who compare OW to TF2 don't get it at a basic level, they're nothing alike because OW introduced the ability to be useful with zero fps skill by hitting a button. TF2 isn't like that outside of playing engie, which is still far more complex than anything you can do in OW
It doesn't matter if it's an FPS and looks sort of similar. The foundations of how the game work differ to the core, in terms of what's expected from players, and this opens the game to a 10x larger audience than TF2. You have to have some FPS skill to play TF2, you don't in OW.
>>343805308
Arkane Studios developed it.
>>343804980
Yeah. The first game was great.
>>343824194
>>343824176
Your English is pretty poor though. Are you projecting?
>>343824194
>replace the mc
they announced from the start that there will be 2 characters.
