So was this gamegood?, thinking about buying this.
>>343800620
yes, it's good
make sure you've played 1 beforehand
its only good if you are going to play it once.there is really no replayiblity and the combat is lackluster and spammy.pvp is the worst one so far.i would suggest you to rent it.
It's the pinnacle of the series.
Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 1 > Dark Souls 2 > Demon's Souls > Bloodborne
>>343800880
>>343800620
It's one of the weaker souls games but still worth playing if you can snag it used
>>343800620no piose
>>343801091
We don't want the player to have fun, that would be unbalanced.
>>343800880
You're right about your Dark Souls ranking, the rest is subjective.
>>343801091
what are you talking about, poise is """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""working as intended""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>343800880
BB = DS3 > DS1 > DS2 >>>>>>>>>> DeS
>>343800620
Yes.
Even moreso if you played the first game
>>343800880
>>343802095
DS2 needs to be at the bottom
>>343802095
Objectively wrong.
>>343802272
>Ds2 is bad meem
Have fun only playing your game once
>>343800880
Dark Souls 1 is rated too high. It has some of the worst areas and gameplay in the series
>>343802541
>meem
whatever you say
>>343802541
who said it was bad? it's just the weakest souls game
>>343801091
>wearing full knight armor
>getting stunlocked by rats
hmm
DS1 > DS 3 > BB = DeS > DS2
>>343802685
My bad
>Meh meh
>>343802995
no, it's that people thinking that the hate on DaS2 is a meme are deluding themselved
>>343802307
t.demonscuck
DeS>BB>Dks1>DkS2>DkS3
This is not up for debate
>>343800620
After playing Bloodborne, DSIII sucks.
It just makes me wanna play Bloodborne again, but I already got all trophies including the DLC.
DSIII is balls.
>>343803127
Literally placed second worst in my ranking but okay.
DaS 3 has been a disappointment since I left the undead settlement. Just killed Yhorm, who I accidentally stumbled upon, on my first try. I'll finish the game, but man I was hoping it was better
>>343803123
Give me reasons why ds2 is bad without the obvious soul memory
Fuck no. This game has a lot of unbalanced issues. Invasions is broken. Covenants is broken. NG is fine but other than getting the + version of rings, there's 0 reasons to go beyond NG+. Even Dark Souls 2 did it better than any Soulsborne game and Dark Souls 2 is regarded as the worse game in the Soulborne universe.
Just don't get this game. At the very least, wait until they release a GOTY edition where it comes with DLC + updates which could finally make the game balanced and gives a more reason to venture beyond NG+.
>>343803138
Dark Souls 1 has the worst combat in the series and the game wasn't even finished. That makes Das 2 and 3 better than it by default
>>343802663
Surely you meant 2
Pre vessel > old hunters > scholar >artorias of the abyss > dx9 scholar > post vessel > das II > des > das3
I sincerely hope das3 dlcs is godlike because that game desperately needs something . Hope they make an actual hard boss
>>343803280
demons was the only game i couldnt play more than twice, i guess i was spoiled by playing bb and ds3 so much before hand, but its the weakest and easiest to me.
>>343803654
I forgot to put bb in there, put ot after post vessel and before das too
>>343803561
No, I didn't. Dark Souls was so broken on release that you had to fight the game to switch targets while locked on. You also could no longer roll while running. It also had terrible, slapped together areas. Granted, DaS 2 did also, but combined with the horrible gameplay, DaS 2 is superior. Not taking pvp/co-op into consideration at all, since I didn't do it
>>343803357
Overall horrible level design
Adaptability
Dual Wielding is useless
The designs of the levels makes the world feel like a random assortment (unlike in DaS1 and 3, you can clearly see areas you have been to or will go to). Not to mention DaS2 has the "Ride the elevator in a windmill and suddenly a castle on the lava sea" and yet no lava could be seen outside of the windmil.
Every fight is a ganksquad
Useless covenants.
Weapons break way too damn fast
Boss fights that seem out of place at times (Ornstein is a perfect example)
Most bosses are humans in armor.
I've put 70 hours into it and I'm about burnt out.
>>343800620
weapon balance and poise is fucked beyond belief
>>343803859
>ds3 after 1 and 2
>your opinion
>>343804051
All bosses I'm das3 are humans in armor except for the three of four gimmick fights and Oceiros
>>343804194
Yeah I enjoyed it but it's very obviously the weakest and easiest game for me. If scholar and old hunters proved anything tho the dlc will be great
>>343804245
difference is, they all have unique mechanics and movesets
all the humanoid bosses in DaS 2 are extremely similar to fight
>>343804361
They had completely different movesets, did you play the game at all?
Das>DaS3=BB>DeS>DaS2
Why are the bosses so easy? I'm in Irithyll and i've died quite a few times to basic enemies but I have yet to not kill a boss on my first try
>>343804708
JUST WAIT UNTIL PONTIFF YOU FUCK
>>343804708
Casualization is only natural when a series because popular and mainsteam
It's ok.
You should play 1 and 2 before.
>>343804489
they have extremely basic movesets. if you figured out 1, then you would have no trouble with the rest
dark souls 3 on the other had always introduced something new that surprised me every time (free-for-all with the boss involved, teleporting and magic secondary attacks, multiple phases)
btw I have 200+ hours in dark souls 2. it's a good game, but it had severe flaws
>>343804361
hell, one fight in DaS2 reuses a boss and throws in an extra one FROM THE SAME GAME
>>343804051
To say duel wielding is useless means you haven't played the game. It was the ONLY dark souls with relevant duel wielding
>>343804708
Maybe you got good
>PVE
BB > Das 3 > Das 1 > Des > Das 2>playing PVP on a game with such shitty netcode
>>343805161
>To say duel wielding is useless means you haven't played the game
I played DaS2, tried dual wielding and went "this is useless because I have fuck all for I frames" and never tried it again
>>343804759
I beat him first try and found out later sl40 was low for that place. Pontiff was cake as was the rest of the game.
It was a joke and more so on my second play through when I let myself summon
>>343805416
So because you're bad at dodging you stopped using a strong weapon style. Okay.
>>343805302
It's not that. The bosses are just easy. I still die regularly to basic enemies. The Irithyll knights in particular are brutal.
>>343805582
twin princes pushed my shit in, how about you?
>>343805669
Don't use lock on in souls games
>>343805571
I treated DaS2 like DaS. There was no indication that they made the I Frames tie in with a stat.
I am glad this stat is gone for DaS3. Along with the shockwaves
>>343805582
>The Irithyll knights in particular are brutal.
I hated the fire fuckers because their flames have a FUCKING HUGE range
Its objectively good
>>343805765
why, it locks on to him after he teleports
>>343805669
Haven't fought them yet. I'm still in Irithyll
>>343804051
Duel wielding was fucking godly, and DS3 is riddled with humanoid bosses too but you're too busy sucking dick to realize that, faggot.
>>343805828
You did not need adp. No attack on the game requires more than base adp except chariots wheel. Shockwaves are not a thing it's either your got hit it you didn't. Das2 dodging required you actually time your rolls and not press roll immediately after an enemy raise their wrapons. You refuse to adapt so you shit on the game.
>>343805765
except you have to for twin princes or else it's "psshhh nothin personal kid"
same deal for Yhorim if you want to kill him as fast as possible (which is idea because the fight is basic as shit unless you're doing Onionknight's quest line)
>>343806107
>You did not need adp
only if you are a spell user
>>343805669
I'm still amazed, to this day, Twin Princes gives people trouble.
>>343806261
Absolutely not
>>343805037
>free-for-all with the boss involved
that fight is FUN
>>343805828
fire witches are basic as shit, it's the fucking pontiff knights which are just garbage. especially the ones with scythes
>>343806308
them and the soul of cinder were the only bosses that gave me any real trouble my first playthrough
idk why
>>343806218
Yhorm has to be one of the most dissappointing boss fights I've ever fought, only behind the Dragon God in DeS. The opening movie made him look huge, and in-game, he is actually not that big at all. Having to equip a weapon you found in the room with him to fight him is terrible design and the whole fight was just a letdown. He also wasn't introduced with a cutscene like Farron's undead legion. I just walked through the fog and was like 'oh, there's Yhorm'
>>343806553
>Pontiff gave me PTSD
>"LOLOL BEAT HIM FIRST TRY
>Beat Twin Princes on 2nd try
>Twin Princes is a top-tier hard as balls boss
I don't understand you guys sometimes.
>tfw you loved all the pandering and references the game is getting shit for
>>343806791
>Having to equip a weapon you found in the room with him to fight him is terrible design
So I guess the Storm King was also a bad fight
>>343806980
Haven't fought him
DS3 > BB > DS1 > dogshit > DS2
>>343807130
>Haven't fought him
it's a boss from Demon's Souls that has the same "gimmick" as Yorhn. You can also use arrows and spells to harm him
>>343806791
>He also wasn't introduced with a cutscene like Farron's undead legion
he was if you finished Siegward's quest line. The lore behind their relationship and just the Storm Rulers/Yhorim in general are amazing but you don't get to see any of it unless you put up with that bumbling idiot getting stuck in every fucking corner of Lothric
>>343806976
this
>tfwhearing gwyn's theme during the soc fight
>>343807224
Oh, I forgot all about him. Yes, that is also a bad boss fight
>>343807270
I could not find Sieg after finishing that fire demon.
I fucked that quest up, I fucked up the scholar one because I could not find a scroll, I even fucked up a covenant because I killed a certain boss AND angered someone else before finding it
>>343806976
Don't worry, it's only mad soulsbabbies that can't accept that their beloved franchise is one of the most famous ones right now
>Catalina knight stepping out of the elevator
>Gwyn piano
>fucking Anor Londo
It's a truly great successor.
>>343807270
I never rescued him from the dungeon. Searched that place top top bottom several times and never found the door to his cell
>>343800880
BB>DS2>DeS>DS1>DS3
>>343800620
Yeah, but it's story is pretty dependant on you having played Dark Souls 1 first.
>>343807575
and the Gwynievere photo.
Not to mention the Aldrich thing where it's implied that it ate Gwyndolin AND Nito
So many people summon for Yorhn the Giant its absurd.
One wennie summoned THREE people to fight it
>>343807513
>I could not find Sieg after finishing that fire demon.He get's stuck in the well outside of the Cathedral of the Deep's first bonfire. If you got the tower key already just go find Patches in Firelink and buy his armor to give to him, or if not find Patches in the Cathedral and either kill him to get the armor, or bring him back to firelink and buy it there. Then give it back to Siegeward in the well.
He then shows up in the House in Irythill, where you talk to him and he disappears.
Then he get's locked up in Irythill Dungeon. You need to find the key and release him before fighting Yhorim
Took a few tries for me to figure out what the fuck to do. I accidently killed him during the Fire Demon fight on my first playthrough (and he just drops his Armor/Storm Ruler when you kill him), and lost him in the same place you did on the second.
But yea, a lot of the quests (especially Sirrus and Anri) are so fickle. You fuck up once and it's over until NG+
>>343807667
It's in the profaned capital, where you fight that mage on top of the church. Face the stairs where you came up and there's an open window you have to jump into.there's also a titanite slab in there too
>>343808440
probably because they had no idea how to actually do the fight. Without Storm Ruler's weapon art you do no real physical or magic damage to him.
>>343807667
You get to him through an obscure jump in the Profaned Capital below the dungeon. Because fuck you, player.
>>343803357
Petty shitty traps that make the entire game like sens fortress. Poor nonsensical level design. Uninteresting areas (except majula because it's pretty), very average bosses and most of the things the other anon said.
>>343808667
Patches was in this game? I usually search an area completely over multiple times before moving on and I never saw him. I've also messed up every single story line in the game so far. Nothing new there though, as I've done the same thing in every game in the series
>>343800620
>buying the game after the sale ends
Why?
>>343808667
so that sign I saw of "need armor" actually had a purpose? I thought it was someone being cheeky
>>343809120
>probably because they had no idea how to actually do the fight. Without Storm Ruler's weapon art you do no real physical or magic damage to him.
True. Plus you need to hold L2 and Press R1 to use the shockwave
>there's also a titanite slab in there too
Is there any other Slabs in the game? Also where can I get chunks, I need them to upgrade my Dark Sword
>>343802781
>hate Ds2 the most
>play a buttload of it
>cant even make it halfway through SotFS to see the ending I've never reached
>>343802541
Decent concepts on a terrible base game. I would've liked more changes each NG cycle in later games but I'll take a good game world over a bland and dry one that expects me to want to go back to it.
>>343809587
This, seriously why wait till now? Don't tell me you're gonna spite the devs and buy it on a keysite
>>343809587
I'm getting it for my brothers xbone
>>343800620
I have so much trouble with games like these.
I guess it's because I don't fall in line with the whole male power fantasy thing, which most games are geared towards. You know, being a murderous drone with no real identity beyond your killcount. That sort of thing. I just can't do it. And that's a shame, because often I will enjoy the lore and the world.
Put me in front of wildlife or even a dragon and ask me to kill it, though, and I'll feel sadness. I can't help myself. All I see are other creatures trying to survive, and the levels of Freudian in killing a dragon do me in. I mean, it's almost like a rebellious youth thing, isn't it? The dragon is a representation of a person with power, authority, wisdom, intellect, and knowledge -- it's literally an avatar of what it means to be an elder.
>>343809767
>>cant even make it halfway through SotFS to see the ending I've never reached
there's only one ending in DS2. You sit on the damn throne
>>343809474
I love Majula. It's probably my favorite location in the entire series. Kind of reminds me of the save rooms in the old school Resident Evil games. I always feel like I never want to leave when I go back to Majula.Because every other place in the game pales in comparison.just kidding, sort of
>>343809924
SotFS lets you leave the throne dummy
>>343810243
fuck that, it's not worth buying and suffering through DaS2 again to get that
>>343805427
>140
What a pussy.
>>343809896
here's a free (you)
>>343810401
I think he means 40
>>343810401
>american education
>>343810401
good one
>>343809581
yea. You can get him to show up either buy beating Deacons of the Deep and then buying the Tower Key from Shrine Handmaiden (and going to the top of the tower and climbing back down), or if you haven't done Cathedral yet, he's there as a part of Siegward's story where he shows up in the onion armor and throws you into a pit with two giants. You find him later and he asks you to forgive him, and if you do he shows up in Firelink.and he gives you the squat gesture
>>343809737
>so that sign I saw of "need armor" actually had a purpose?
yea, if you get close to the well you get a "Talk" prompt (so long as you and Siggy killed the Fire Demon together)
>Is there any other Slabs in the game?
there are a few (IIRC like 8 in total per NG cycle). That one specifically is the earliest one, but there are a few more around the Grand Archives and on top of Lothric Castle. plus i think there's one on Archdragon's Peak and one in Untended Graves. As for chunks, they drop around Lothric Castle and Profaned Capital
why cant i tank hits with a greatshield in this game like in the first?
>>343800620
Yes, it's quite good, anon. It doesn't bring anything new or groundbreaking to the series and at times relies too much on the first game, but it's still a hell of a lot of fun. Some flaws, but that's to be expected.
>>343809896
Some of the stuff, yeah. Some of it died a long time ago.
The things like that though, I sort of think you're supposed to feel shitty about some of them.
>>343811082
>That one specifically is the earliest one, but there are a few more around the Grand Archives and on top of Lothric Castle. plus i think there's one on Archdragon's Peak and one in Untended Graves. As for chunks, they drop around Lothric Castle and Profaned Capital
I am not in any of those areas except for Profaned Capital. Do the Gargoyles drop them?
>>343811663
just looked it up and i was wrong. There's a few that drop in Irythill Dungeon (like from the giant and the crystal lizard in the area) but none in Profaned Capital.
>>343811250
because poise is """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""working as intended""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>343812060
So no enemy until the castle drop the Chunks?
>>343812221
Basically yea. Chunks, Twinkling Titanite, and Scales are hard as fuck to come by for some stupid reason
>>343810379
It's included in both versions
>>343809896
there's a lot of stuff in the lore that goes deeper into this.
Like Vordt and Dancer of the Boreal Valley. They were simple knights appointed by Pontiff Sullyvan to guard Irythill from the encroaching darkness. But thanks to all the fuckery Sullyvan was responsible for, the Irythill knights (including Vord, Dancer, and all the Outrider mini bosses you come across) started to lose their humanity and began regressing to a feral, animal like state.
And Yhorim, he was the ruler of the Profaned Capital before Prince Lothric abandoned the flame. During Yhorim's reign he wielded two identical swords (Storm Ruler) with insane power. Out of a show of good faith and his duty to be a peaceful and just ruler, he gave them both away, one to the people of the Profaned Capital, and the second to his long time friend, Siegeward of Catarina. If you complete Sigeward's questline, you learn that before Yhorim was consumed by the powers of the Abyss, he made Sigeward promise him that if anything bad happened, Sigeward was to kill Yhorim, and completing the quest gets Sigeward as an accomplice in the Yhorim fight, attempting to fufill his friend's last request.
And then there's Oceirous. With Prince Lothric's outright refusal to help link the flames and keep the era of fire continuing, Oceirous feared for what would happen should the darkness consume Lothric. So he turned to attempting to harness the power of the dragons as a means of saving the kingdom of Lothric. But it had severe consequences. It corrupted his body and destroyed his mind, and plenty of theories (based from in game items and his dialog during the fight) point to him either sacrificing or ultimately losing his child in the process. The entire fight is him cradling his invisible child and fearing for her saftey, only to realize that she's not in his arms, where he starts to cry out for her to come to him with no avail. (not to mention the fact that you can barely hear a child's cry during the fight)
>>343814721
I will never understand the lore in these games. Where do people get this stuff from? Item descriptions are way too vague and NPC dialogue is scarce, in DaS 3 especially. I just killed Yhorm and everyone in firelink literally is saying the exact same stuff they've been saying since the beginning of the game
>>343815384
a lot of it is from NPC quest lines that you complete, but most of it does come from just meticulously piecing together item descriptions and the scraps of dialog you get from NPCs around the game, and just piecing everything together.
The biggest thing about DS3 is that it references DS1 so much that we can look back to it and find a lot of information that fits different things.
Like Oceiros. What we know from in game dialog is that he references a child, Ocelette, that apparently doesn't exist (which implies either something tragic happened or he's gone insane).
We also know that he's attempted to harness the power of the dragons and associated with the scholars inside the Grand Archives thanks to item descriptions around the game
He also drops the gesture that's needed to unlock Archdragon Peak, which has a lot of direct and indirect references to Sethe from Dark Souls 1, which helps prove that Oceiros wasn't always a dragon but became that way somehow.
And then taking in the things we do know from the overall story of the game (about Prince Lothric willingly abandoning the flame and ushering in darkness), we can fill in the blanks.
A lot of "lore" is just assumptions based on what bit of evidence we can get our hands on. That's the biggest thing to remember when people start talking about Lore in Souls game, so there's a lot of "off the wall" stuff that people just assume which we can't strictly confirm or deny, so we tend to ignore things that don't seem logical for the world
>>343812481
You can buy them all eventually though
>>343817403
Also possible the baby was invisible, as you can clearly hear crying sounds during the first phase of the fight and a loud squash when he enters the second phase of the fight and stops cradling whatever was or what he thought was there. Priscilla could become invisible at will so not a stretch to imagine another crossbreed-thing could as well.
>>343801783
Dark souls 3 is absolutely not better than the first rofl
