Is Doom 4 any good?
>>343786935
It has the best campaign I've played in over 10 years. Multiplayer is being worked on, as is snapmap. It's 35 bucks on Steam right now.
>>343787970
Eh I already played it on Xbone but is it worth it to buy it again so I can play with mouse and keyboard
>>343786935
Nope.
It's a tedious and repetitious Glory Killing fest in endless lock-down combat arena rooms, that are there to hide the very limited max enemy count on screen.
D4 is full of modern crap, the most annyoing being not only one, but THREE upgrade trees & level-up systems.
Plot and exposition isn't crammed down your throat, except when the game literally sit you down to watch a legit fucking cutscenes.
Enemies are totally not a threat thanks to the GKs, and Chainsaw being a 1-hit insta-kill tool that fully refills your ammo and HP.
It's a schizophrenic mess with severe identity crisises, which people now only THINK means "oldschool". Especially the MP is a prime example of this shit, and you're just delusional, low-standard moron to think that the SP would be either perfect, or ANYTHING like Doom.
>>343787970
>It has the best campaign I've played in over 10 years.
You should play more games, son.
>>343788071
Xbone is apparently getting mouse and keyboard support in the coming months. I would hold off on that.
http://www.xblafans.com/xbox-one-get-keyboard-mouse-support-year-88122.html
>>343788374
Pretty much this. Although I'm basing it in a 15 minute demo, for me that got repetitive and it was endless melee mashing.
>>343788374
Alright, in terms of FPS campaigns, what has come out in the past 10 years that is better?
Its ok.
The gameplay is pretty good, but it could be faster and many enemies take far too long to kill.
And you get locked into an arena to fight some eneimies that spawn.
And there is way too much modern bullshit.
But its an ok game.
Pick it up once it drops to 20$.
>>343788765
This guy is being a tremendous faggot, Doom 4 is good, but Wolfenstein was better.
>>343786935
Yes.
I wish I had it on PC though.
Can't beat it on Ultra Nightmare with dual analogs feels bad.
I'm still waiting for the crack
Love the entire series. Still own my hard copy of Doom 3.
>>343788374
Its a damn shame that D44M has denuvo.
The gameplay is damn fun, with some modding it could be great.
Shorten the glory kills animations, get no ammo from them, but let them trigger earlier, so it becomes a tool to kill big enemies, instead of just a glorified health regeneration.
Buff health and ammo pickups and increase the maximum ammo.
And remove all that upgrading.
And reduce the glory kill teleporting range a bit.
The movement speed could also use a small boost.
And you got a pretty good game.
Yes
The single player is good
Multiplayer is crap but who cares about it? Really
It's great. Multi is shit, and the reasons why it's shit won't be fixed by id, but the singleplayer is ten-twelve hours of greatness. More if you like finding secrets or higher difficulties.
Apparently, glory kills are discouraged once you get to higher difficulties.
>>343789591
In ultra violence and nightmare most enemies can kill you in one or two hits, and since glory killing doesn't automatically pick up the health , it slows you down and makes you extremely open to getting hit
>>343789171
>Doom 3
>>343788765
Wolfenstein TNO, STALKER.
Hope they get rid of the glory kill system and that cringeworthy fanfiction garbage of the ''Doomslsyer''
>Doom purists keep spouting that DOOM 64 is better
>Download it
>Good game but nothing on new DOOM
Fuckin nostalgiafags
>>343790094
>casual thinks his '''''opinion''''' matters
No story, no glory kill garbage, it's automatically superior.
>>343790228
It's a wannabe horror game like DOOM 3
>>343790397
>doom 64
>horror game
It's as much as nudoom.
>>343790073
I honestly don't understand people's beef over Doom 3. Am I the only one that had fun going through the campaign?
>>343790469
Me.
The weapons were so satisfying, the shotguns specifically.
Doom 4 weapons feel like airsoft toys in comparison.
>>343790469
yes
well tbf it's a 7/10 game
>>343790452
It lacks thrash metal, and is full of dark lighting. It's trying to be a horror game as opposed to how DOOM 1 and 2 were.
>>343790646
Well, doom 4 gave us electronic low garbage instead of metal.
Also, it felt like the entire game had literally one track composed of a 10 second loop.
>>343788374
This feels like a copy pasta of autism.
Yes, the game isn't perfect.
I found the biggest flaw is definitely the level design, the lock down arenas and lack of enemies outside of them is kind of tiresome, but the combat itself is fun enough to overcome this rather noticeable issue.
People whining about the chainsaw and glory kills probably haven't even played the game.
You don't get so much chainsaw fuel that you can just laugh off every enemy and glory kills only happen when you do enough damage to an enemy.
It's perfectly okay to not like the game and I can understand why DOOM fanboys are upset with it but you sound like a retarded baby when you come up with such bullshit reasons to hate it.
It's obvious no new DOOM is ever going to satisfy your autism.
>>343786935
I'll be that guy.
It's a good "spaceman shoots demons with big guns" game; but it's not Doom. When I saw "Low Health" on my HUD; my heart sank.
I'm glad I got it as a gift.
I'm just glad I bought a key instead of giving my money to devs.
This isn't Doom.
>>343791036
>When I saw "Low Health" on my HUD
you can turn that off, and loads of other things on your hud as well, including the flashing brutal melee indicator
>>343786935
It's okay, but heavily flawed.
"Glory kills" are shit and disorientate you by moving the camera so much all over the place. It's not very good.
It's usually just a bunch of dudes in a room that you're locked in (sometimes) and then you proceed onto the next area.
The chainsaw is odd and turns enemies into pinatas.
Oh and like all modern "retro" shooters it has a weird skill tree upgrade system thing that's all over the place and messier than the guac bowl salesman.
Also some enemies seem to just be bullet sponges and there's also the shield guys where you're meant to use a grenade or something and that makes them lose the shield but it's really inconsistent and the game doesn't explain things properly.
Oh! The cutscenes! Every since half life 1, every game does these, but Doom 4 does it in a really terrible way. The game takes you and basically forces you to stand there doing nothing while the game throws what's basically a shitty unskippable cutscene at you, apparently someone at id thought that people would care about the story. But the story is shit and uninteresting and nobody cares.
It's a schizophrenic bipolar mess.
>>343790782
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6BbvCC0VI0&t=1m1s
>1:01
>electronic
>instead of metal
>literally one track
>10 second loop
>>343787970
How are they fixing multiplayer?
>>343791941
That's the impression it left on me.
>>343791941
>Rip and Tear
Why is everything about this thing all cringeworthy fan ducksucking?
Feels like a game made by Doom fanboys rather than an actual Doom.
>>343792197
Are you retarded?
>>343791941
the soundtrack in this game sucks
it's loud, unfitting and just adds more white noise to what's already a lot of messy white noise.
it's like it's trying to be "epic" but it just ends up being like an edgelord from the 90s who never grew up properly so they're still in their metal phase.
>>343792331
>edgelord from the 90s who never grew up properly so they're still in their metal phase.
Thats what Doom is.
>>343790782
>baaaw we got no metal
>>343792331
>baaw we got metal
You faggots literally just want to complain. I doubt any of you played the original Doom games.
>>343792451
yes, but games are meant to move forwards, their sequels should jump off from where the original game was, not just do the exact same thing.
doom 3 jumped off from 1 and 2 nicely
4's just 10 steps back
>>343786935
It's gotten a lot of hype around here but i'd put it at 7/10. Too many areas are just walking from point a to b without any demons in them.
>>343792770
>Y-YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED THIS AND THAT GAME
Everytime.
>>343792792
Doom 3 jumped off just like you wanted and all of /v/ hated it.
>>343793147
I liked it.
/v/ just hates everything because people like to be contrarian
>>343788374
If you bothered to actually play the game, you'd know that the chainsaw is really only worth as either a last ditch kill button or to get a quick ammo refill from a grunt given that using it on a Hell Knight and similar medium enemies takes 3 fuel, and a Baron or Mancubus takes a whopping 5, and fuel is hardly common at all.
Plus Glory Kills at times actually are dangerous since the instant you exit out of one, you're still and can easily be ganked by a stray imp fireball that easily takes more than you would have gained.
>/v/ cant pirate it so they trash the game
Every time
>>343786935
Fantastic/10
>>343793332
Gotta love how instead of accepting people have different opinions you have to make up excuses to justify people thinking differently.
>>343793885
Its literally impossible to dislike NuDoom so must be a troll.
>>343794006
Didn't dislike it, it was just meh, and it's not a game i'm going to replay.
Really forgettable.
>>343794006
what?
just because you liked a game doesn't mean that everyone else has to like it too.
are you autistic?
>>343788374
yeah this sadly. I refunded it after 3 hours of play. Shit you not they still refunded it.
worse than /v/ says. got bored mid game and dropped it.
You know, if you don't like glory kills, you can just disable the highlighted staggering and shoot them to kill. The only enemies you'll have to go up to are the bosses, which there are only 3 and all are satisfying to do especially the last one.
>>343786935
It's pretty darn fun but it gets stressful after an hour or so and I have to put it down. The sound effects are unsettling (lots of screams, howls, and death rattles) and it never gives you a break from the action.
It feels a lot more like the original series than Doom 3 did. Reminiscent of the Flood levels from the first 2 Halo games with low level enemies pouring out from every corner while you're trying to run and gun around the harder enemies.
>>343793885
>plays the game for 17 hours
>"f-f-fuck this game it's shit"
>opens game and plays more
>>343794826
>just ignore the only decent way to regenerate health
Just fuck off
Healthpacks are pretty useless in D44M and you know it.
The only thing I can gather from this shotposting thread is that the guys who are calling this gane trash, haven't actually played it.
>Cutscenes
Every cutscene but ONE is 15 to 30 seconds at the most, and they're just to introduce new enemies or the bosses. The longest cutscene is when you're in Hayden's office for exposition, and that is only like 2 minutes.
>Glory kills
What the fuck is everyone complaining about with these? Sure, they are a bit too long, but you can get a rune stone to decrease the glory kill time, or you can just not do them
>Arenas
That is literally the entirety of the first Dooms, and you're a goddamn idiot if you think otherwise
>Enemy Count
I'll have to give you this one, the game could definitely use more enemies at a time
>Upgrade Tree
There's three types
Armor
Weapons
Stats
All are well organized and add to the game
>Chain saw
Literally an ammo box that you don't get much fuel for
You have literally no solid arguement besides enemy count
>>343795119
>Complain healing is too easy
>You can disable it
>Complain is too hard now
>>343795119
You have the grenade that saps health, they still drop health even if you shoot them, and you can pick up packs and armor easily.
I can't fathom why you would think punching demon's shit in isn't fun.
>>343795119
>getting hit in the first place
>Cant evade attacks
But I thought you were a super hardcore original Doom player anon :^)
>>343795000
vee in a nutshell
>>343790094
"Doom Purists" claiming that DOom 64 is better are faggots that aren't old enough to have played the originals. Doom 64 is not a bad game but it's also fairly mediocre for a Doom game.
>>343794870
I can't really tell if you're triggered by the game and like it, or if you have a medical problem about the stimulation happening
>>343788374
>same autistic copypasta every doom thread
some people are dedicated
game is fine
>>343795000
>>343795653
I played the campaign once and played the multiplayer for about 5 hours.
You want me to judge a game without finishing it?
It was a boring game, but people were praising it, so I kept going, hey, maybe it got gud sometime, but I was expecting that moment until the credits came.
I tried the multiplayer and I was baffled when I found fucking loadouts and the customization and ''taunt'' shit from goddamn Cowadooty.
Don't know what I bought, but i'm glad the $25 I paid for the key didn't go to Bethesda.
>>343795000
>play the demo
>shit on it
>''HAHA HE'S JUDGING A GAME FOR ONE LEVEL''
>finish the game
>shit on it
>''HAHA HE PLAYED THE GAME, LOL Y U HATE IT''
Why is the nuDoom fanbase so insecure and incapable of accepting different opinions?
>>343795870
You obviously liked the multiplayer if you played it for 5 hours. I loved new Doom and only touched the multiplayer for 15 minutes because of how awful it is.
>>343795119
oh wow, so truth is you're really bad at the game huh ?
also play on nightmare and try to spam glory kills faggot
>>343796050
>one level representative of an entire mode
We all thought the game was gonna be shit before it came out because of the multiplayer; the reason people praise it is for the great campaign mode. And who subjects themselves to something they hate for hours without refunding it? If a game is shit in the first 3 hours, it'll probably remain that way until you finish it. That's what the refunds are for.
>>343796094
No, a multiplayer I love I play it for maybe 50 hours at least, I don't do two sittings of little more than 2 hours and then drop it.
It's not a game that makes me want to go back.
Those 17 hours are throughout 3 days, never played it again, felt the same as playing Rise of the Tomb Raider, played it for 11 hours until I finished the campaign, and I forgot about it.
>>343796285
>And who subjects themselves to something they hate for hours without refunding it?
As I said, I bought a CD key, I couldn't refund it.
It's a shame, but it was only $25 and that way I ensure that I don't support devs who make games I do not like.
>>343786935
It's bad and /v/ has been praising it as a return to form, showing this huge desire to have been part of the FPS era, wrapped in an unfortunate lie (these people were not part of the FPS era)
It doesn't play like any Doom, it doesn't even play slightly lik ean id software game. This is totally confusing to me because Rage still had the id software feel, but I guess the Wolf games didn't and that's where we are going.
It's basically Painkiller 3. It's just not good. Multiplayer was far better than single player but everyone shit it on both rightfully and ignorantly
I was reasonably excited about it and gave up after 3 levels. It just isn't fun.
>>343796430
What if a single cent of that $25 went to id? What would you do then?
>>343796619
Not likely considering most CD keys are just keys that some slav stole from a store or something.
At least I hope so.
>>343796570
> Multiplayer was far better than single player
Nice bait
>>343786935
Yes. The Campaign is fantastic.
And as casual and not doom as it is I actually like the multiplayer.
>>343786935
It's just a clearly uninspired game by devs who obviously had no idea what they were doing.
It's obvious they rebooted the original Doom 4 which was just Call of Doom and had absolutely no idea what to do, so they just saw what was popular at the time, which was Brutal Doom, and based it on it.
Not to mention the sound design is quite awful, specifically weapon shots, making them feel like airsoft guns, instead of actual weapons.
This is an aspect that Doom 3 excelled at, except the assault rifle, all weapons felt powerful, specially the shotguns.
>>343796928
how can you call the multiplayer casual and not doom but the single player fantastic?
i think doom is pretty much the most casual feeling game i've ever played
lockdown arenas and executions ruined this game. yet another in the string of id software games ruined by consoles
you know, i actually bought this for $60..it'll be the last time.
>>343796430
You realize that the keys are just retail copies bought in bulk and where they are cheap?
The devs still get some cash.
I refunded it.
If they make a sequel:
>absolutely no story, forget about all those runes of some demon talking about Doomslayer or whatever
>get rid of glory kills
>change weapon animations and sounds to make weapons feel meaty and powerful
>use a more varied color palette, the overuse of white and grey, orange and yellow and brown made all levels easily forgettable
![DOOM-4-4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pWZxoTD.jpg "DOOM-4-4[1].jpg")
>>343795754
I'm not 'triggered' but the constant blood and gore and screams just get to me after a while and I need a break. I don't play video games often anymore so I guess I'm not as desensitized to it as y'all are.
>>343792331
>not liking BFG division.
You gay, dude.
>>343797157
You do realize most CD keys are bought with stolen credit cards, right?
The places where those keys are so cheap are not even from the same region of the USA and EU stores.
>>343797253
Why are you implying there's any difference between soundtracks?
They all sound the same.
Plus i'm not that much of a virgin to listen to soundtracks outside of those games.
>>343797056
>post an opinion
>get told its shit its shit its shit and get a blog about how you refuse to pay money for products
Uhhhh
K?
>>343797275
>You do realize most CD keys are bought with stolen credit cards, right?
>most
a fraction of a percent.
please stop needlessly hyperbolating things you don't understand or have a very narrow understanding of. do you think any industry would exist in which a majority of transactions are fraudulent? *really*?
The classic Doom fanboy pandering was cringeworthy all the way throughout the game.
It's fucking laughable how they were basically begging to be liked by classic Doom fans.
Really sad, and it really lacks personality.
It's just a cringeworthy, Just Cause 3-tier at making a ''''''''''''badass''''''''''' game.
>>343797606
Yes because most people don't trust CD key sites, I mean, there are retards who still buy from Steam sales even though they've been garbage ever since they got rid of flash sales.
>*really*
Kill yourself.
>>343797608
it just felt not doom not id instantly because i couldnt at any point go "ill go get that health box i left back here"
i really didnt think the new game design of enemies spurting items was gonna be bad, but i also didnt think the game took place in lockdown arenas
the arenas completely ruin the game, if they could patch them out it'd be fun
>>343797606
>*really*
Ughh, like, could you NOT?
I mean, it's 2016.
*sigh*
>>343797872
why do you think i care if you police how i type? ive been on the internet longer than you have been alive, literally
Take a shot how many times the word "cringeworthy" comes up in this thread
It's probably the same fucking people spewing shit about how bad the plot is to scare people away from a really fun game they can't pirate.
Kinda fucking pathetic really.
Bought it along with Just Cause 3.
What a fucking waste of 50 dollars.
>>343786935
I had fun with it.
I expect to have a bit more fun with the mod that puts the weapons and mechanics into classic doom, as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCeC4JAuOyQ
>>343797989
>Y-YOU DIDN'T PLAY THE GAME
>Y-YOU HATE IT CUZ YOU CAN'T PIRATE IT
See my post in
>>343793885
Why is the nuDoom fanbase so unique?
Why do you have to make up excuses in your head instead of just accepting that people can have different opinions?
Why is it so hard to understand?
>>343797989
i dont use shit like that and i think this game was trash and shouldn't be bought
a lot of you just have no idea what an actually fun fps feels like or what actual good level designs feel like
>>343788374
the chainsaw only refills ammo on big enemies.
>>343797989
Yeah, I mean, people with different opinions, it's so fucking pathetic, I'm sure there's some ulterior motive or some kind of conspiracy against this game tbqh my phams.
>it's a reference to the battle of wounded knee, because that was hell too
bretty gud
>>343798116
wow it actually looks fun i wonder why
>player isn't locked down into an arena
>enemies don't constantly run behind player and hit him in the back with 50% health projectiles
oh yeah, the basic design is still from a good fps game. that's why.
yknow one of the things that made d44m bad is that the enemies are too good, they move too much do too much damage etc..you want some consistency of behaviors in single player
>>343798175
"Good design" is a huge bullshit term used all over /v/ to do nothing but describe something you like.
>>343798261
Every single DOOM thread I've seen has had the exact same shit posted in the same ways so yeah, there probably is. Especially when it has that anti-pirate shit that /v/ automatically hates any game that it uses.
>>343788374
Kys
It plays like a serious sam rip off
>>343798587
>player isn't locked down into an arena
nigga what. Mod looks awesome but the arena stuff is obviously still there
>>343798632
>Especially when it has that anti-pirate shit that /v/ automatically hates any game that it uses.
Funny, because I think there's some actual ulterior motive to spam about that thing in /v/
>>343798760
not really it plays like a painkiller ripoff. serious sam has more than 6 enemies at once.
>>343798632
Yes anon, it's all a conspiracy in here, independant thought doesn't exist, and all the people who think different than you have a masterplan to dislike your favourite videogames because this world is built precisely around you.
It's an average and boring shooter.
Nothing stands out, it just exists along other shooters in a sea of shooters.
I haven't played the game. It's good.
>111 posts
>38 IPs
Every Doom thread.
Shills and shitposters shitposting each other.
The industry has forgotten about this game already for a reason.
It's not good, it's not bad, it's just average.
>>343788535
So what? The PS4 has had it since launch but that doesn't mean anything until developers actually support it. Up to this point no PS4 game lets you play with a mouse and keyboard.
The Xbox One will probably get it and let you use it for the web browser and MAYBE Halo War 2. Outside of that it'll be incompatible with most games.
>>343799362
i don't think anybody is shills i think they just have awful taste
it's really not a particularly good game, and if people could get past the graphics of stuff like quake they'd see 10 times better FPS gameplay just waiting in front of them
also was doom hard to look at for anyone else? it makes my eyes blur/my eyes get irritated. I think it's because everything has too much detail, like the enemies blend into the backgrounds instead of being highlighted against them.
>>343799606
>if you're not me your taste is shit!
>>343799362
>I don't know that to have a proper conversation you have to respond to someone
>>343786935
Why do people shit on NuDoom's "cinematics" but offer Wolfenstein TNO as an alternative, which is just another movie-game?
>>343800495
Did you know that for some reason this betrayal of a game brand new Doom was made by the evil Betoddsda that didn't let id touch anything in the game and not as relevant Wolfenstein was made by our lord and saviour id and they managed to fool Bethersda into releasing the game by telling them it was Skyrim DLC.
>>343795000
>ill play it for 2 mins then form an opinion on it
retard
>>343793286
Or how about because it's a bad DOOM game and you're retarded.
>Anyone who holds the opposite opinion of mine is just a contrarian!
The contrarian opinion would be that you liked DOOM 3. That game was a glorified tech demo with bad design choices such as the shotgun's spread, only idiots liked it.
>>343800495
>movie-game
What does this even mean anymore? Is a game now automatically a movie-game if it has a story and you have to sit through one or two cut-scenes, even if there's legitimate gameplay in the actual game?
Why is a game automatically bad if it's a "movie-game" for that matter? This complaint seems so broad and vague at the same time to me.
>>343786935
It's ok.
best single player fps campaign I've ever played. I thought the weapon balance was a bit wonky. The plasma rifle and combat shotgun become useless really quickly.
>>343802914
>What does this even mean anymore
a game that spends more time emphasizing cutscenes than innovating gameplay.
Watching the steam trailers, TNO definitely seems like a movie-game. As if I'm supposed to give a shit if a soccer player shoots someone else in the head because muh dramatics.
>>343803047
Really? I still use the explosive shotgun mod although I'm at level 6
>do you guys have an opinon?: the thread
>>343788374
is that you sarais
>>343798175
>fun is objective
Fuck off.
>>343790794
Oh my god i love this picture.
Does anyone has a source? I can't find anything with the backsearch
>>343788374
> it's a glory kill fest
So you're just too casual to play nightmare? Glory fucking suck on the higher difficulties.
> three-upgrade trees and level-up systems
Except they're all done right. If you don't enjoy playing them then just play without them. They're only complementary and don't add much they definitely aren't necessary.
>cut scenes
Like when?
>enemies are not a threat
How can you even say this when you're playing on easy?
>chainsaw being a 1-hit insta-kill tool that fully refills your ammo and HP.
Again if you play on higher-difficulties you may find the chainsaw isn't overpowered.
>>343790228
>not playing ultra-nightmare
Opinion-discarded. Glory kills are shit. Have never used them.
Yes
Fucking really good, actually
MP is ass
Snapmap is barebones
But the campaign = ridiculous
>>343792005
I wonder this too
>>343790782
>thinking there was metal in the original doom
Literally one fucking song and it's in DOOM too and even more metal.
>You need PS Plus to access snapmap content
Oh, fuck you. I'm shouldn't have bought this for the ps4.
Then again my computer couldn't handle it.
>>343791036
>it's not DOOM because of a UI element I could have turned off if I was smart enough
I love the desperate nostalgia fags trying to find every reason why this game isn't DOOM.
Hell no. Console trash
>>343791487
How fucking autistic are you that you just reworded your prior post?
>>343788374
Stop shilling nostalgia fag.
>>343788765
Halo 5 has a better fucking campaign. Same with cod advanced warfare
>>343795119
Glory kills are shit on higher-difficulties.
>>343805736
idiot
Should I just play on the higher difficulties? I started on normal and it glory kills are too good
Which difficulty in that case?
>>343805792
Bait
>>343806021
That just makes the enemies even more of a bullet sponge then, since they usually take an extra shot to kill, which is irredeemable garbage.
>>343806362
Play in harder dificulty avaliable.
Also, disable almost everything in the game settings and you'll have a pretty good Doom experience
>>343800495
But don't you know anon. I'm a hardcore doom player which is why I'm playing on easy and using glory kills every 5 seconds.
>>343806668
>even more of a bullet-sponge
How so? Are you complaining that some enemies take more than 1 shot to kill? Staggers are still useful and a good mechanics whether you glory kill or not.
>>343806173
You literally reworded that entire post.
>>343806362
You simply cannot use glory kills on nightmare.
>>343788765
Serious Sam 3: BFE
STALKER: SoC
Crysis
>>343787970
>Multiplayer is being worked on, as is snapmap.
Stop this meme. They're adding a couple gamemodes and a couple of new cubes to use. Nothing that fixes how fundamentally flawed both are
>>343807170
Yeah, if I point blank an imp or a possessed soldier with the shotgun they should die, as it was in the classic games.
Imps take two shotgun blasts to glory kill unless you headshot them. Possessed Soldiers take three, and again, that is only just to be able to glory kill them.
Double the enemy count and half the health values and neo DOOM would have been a much better game.
I liked the campaign. Lockdown arenas weren't Doom style at all, but I found the arena fights to be engaging in nightmare. Any lower difficulty and you're just mindlessly running around.
MP is very casual, isn't an arena shooter, and is terrible especially from a competitive standpoint. Doesn't live up to the legacy of previous id Software arena shooters.
SnapMap had mostly uninteresting single player content when I checked it (to be fair that was a few weeks ago). The deathmatch playlist is dead. I'm not much a creator but two weapon limit, demon limit, and premade rooms don't sound very nice
>>343788374
>Enemies are totally not a threat thanks to the GKs, and Chainsaw being a 1-hit insta-kill tool that fully refills your ammo and HP.
Here's where you make it obvious you haven't actually played the game
>>343807630
You have some awful taste in games
>>343807819
You can oneshot (kill, not stagger!) and twoshot posessed soldiers (also kill, not stagger!) consistently with the shotgun. This is on Nightmare, even
>>343803298
Not him, but the later game weapons are straight up upgrades. They even use the same ammo pool. When fully upgraded they are just more OP than the earlier game counterparts.
Super Shotgun outclases the normal Shotgun in damage. The Chaingun does way more DPS that the Assault Rifle. Railgun just does insane amounts of damage.
The Plasma Gun ekes it out purely because the dully upgraded stun is useful
>>343789027
>>343790079
>Wolfenstein TNO better
You shitting me? It has so much of the same stupid shit.
>fuck around while people talk style cutscenes
>actually way more regular cutscenes
>melee finisher animations
>hardest difficulty just makes things do more damage
>enemies pour into the same room just like doom 4 until you clear it, except its through un-enterable doors in the wall instead of teleporting, wow so different
>also has upgrade shit
>forced stealth nonsense
If you hate Doom 4 but like TNO you're full of shit. They're very much the same cloth.
>>343809065
TNO also doesn't have anywhere near the weapon and enemy variety Doom 4 has.
Wolf 2009 has a better weapon selection than TNO.
>>343790794
DoomGal is cute! CUTE!
>>343808579
I agree that crysis is shit but the other games are pretty solid so i wouldnt call his taste shit
>>343791036
Holy shit, the autism. Also the stupidity.
You can turn that shit off y'know. The settings in the game actually give you a lot of options.
>>343808943
>Super Shotgun outclases the normal Shotgun in damage.
The maxed grenade alt only costs one shell and does more damage (and has splash)
The burst-fire mod also becomes unexpectedly great with its final upgrade. You still burn 3 shells a pop but subsequent bursts get a rather significant damage buff. Suddenly you're dropping Mancubi unbelievably fast
>>343794870
Pussy. You're supposed to be invigorated by the challenge and the opposition. Where are your testicles? Are you one of those mentally ill young men who take hormones to become like Briana Wu?
>>343802551
2 minutes and over half a day of continuous playing are different fuckface
>>343797240
Desensitization is a bullshit concept.
>"just get to me after a while and I need a break"
Probably had an abusive dad, a total beta dad, or no dad.
Sad.
>>343811437
Wouldnt having no dad make you lose your feels (or turn you into tyrone)
>>343790794
>I found the biggest flaw is definitely the level design, the lock down arenas and lack of enemies outside of them is kind of tiresome
I felt like the game was on the right track in the foundry level. It was large, non-linear, and even pulled tricks like having enemies respawn in areas you already passed through. I was disappointed most levels after that were linear lockdown-fests. I found myself longing for one or two old-fashioned monster closets or groups waiting in ambush instead of everyone just teleporting in over and over.
I'm assuming the reason there aren't more monsters already in the levels is the strangely low number of monsters that can be spawned in at once. One can only hope if there's a D55M that they'll remove restrictions that affect gameplay like that instead of just making it look better.
>>343808943
>Super Shotgun outclases the normal Shotgun in damage.
This is different from Doom 2 how?
