What is the best Total war game? Discuss.
Mechanically probably Attila but some people get turned off by the setting
>>343781705
Medieval 1
M2 has the best mods though
Rome I and Medeival 2.
Only thing that pisses me off in Medeival 2 is the dumb Ai that declares war to you for no fucking reason within 5 turns. I installed the "Ultimate AI" mod and the AI does feel smarter without any random declarations of war or betrayals without a good reason and such
Medieval 2 and rome 1 are overrated. They are incredibly flawed in many ways, especially med 2 with its multiple downright broken game mechanics. Still great though.
>>343781969
this
If mods are included id say either Bellum Crucis for medieval 2, DEI for rome 2 or TROM3 for shogun are the best total war fun times. Just choose favorite setting.
Medieval 2 with mods.
>>343782351
>Only thing that pisses me off in Medeival 2 is the dumb Ai that declares war to you for no fucking reason within 5 turns
Isn't that pretty much how medieval history went?
>>343781705
I don't really know, but I liked Empire the most, and Shogun 2 as close second. I tried out Medieval 2, Rome 2 and Attila but didn't like them, and bought a couple of weeks ago the new Warhammer one and was very-very disappointed.
Why can't they just make a new Empire game?
>>343785141
>but I liked Empire the most
That's a very unique taste you have there.
Napoleon Darthmod and Shogun FotS.
Call me a weeb all you want but Shogun 2 is fucking perfect.
>>343785141
I've always wanted a Total war game based in mainland Asia.
>>343781705
Shogun 2
>>343785272
This little weeb gets it
>>343785212
Why? I love that era and when I was younger I played the shit out of Cossacks which has a similar setting.
>>343785272
My one and only complaint with the game is the lack of faction variety, but that's because of the setting. Feudal Japan is still fucking great and FotS really spiced things up.
>US Marines
>>343785141
>But I liked Empire the most
Same. Still play that and Napoleon all the time. Shogun 2 I would argue is objectively the best in the series though. Rome 2 and Attila are also great. Safe to say that Warhammer and Medieval 2 are by far the worst and should be scratched from the record.
>>343781705
In terms of balance and design and shit it's probably Attilla or Fall of the Samurai.
I've been having an absolute blast with Warhammer total war though, to the point where it's becoming my favorite.
>>343782351
It doesn't declare war on you for no reason. The point system from Shogun 2 where you can just how bad or good your relation is, has always been present in the game. It was just made visible to the player in S2.
>>343785460
>>343785272
>>343785771
>>343785562
I feel like Shogun 2 had the most non broken diplomacy in the entire series as well. They really did a good job with hostages and negotiation.
Medieval 2 seems kinda broken honestly, speaking as someone who has only played Rome 1 and Shogun 2
The AI doesn't seem to know what to do when it comes to sieges
>breaks like 5 holes in my wall
>still just stands in the field doing nothing
Also cavalry charges just seem to not work, where they stop using their lances at the very last second
Shogun 2 was the last great total war game
>>343781705
Warhammer is my favourite because it's really fun and I love fantasy.
However I don't feel that Warhammer can be measured on the same metric as the other total war games, it's too different mechanically from every other TW game.
So I would have to say Shogun 2 is the best of the 'genuine' TW games, at least in my opinion.
In Shogun 2 is there a timer for CPU initiated battles? There's been a couple of times where I've been massively overpopulated and when the battle start the computer just has its entire army sit there. I tried to wait out the timer to win, but after about 15 minutes of 3x speed I charged their lines.
>>343785562
Geez why so hostile to m2?
Literally all crap.
>>343785272
Only thing that annoys me is that your vassals turn on you when realm divide happens. There's no point of keeping vassals before that happens.
>>343786376
I think the broken cavalry charge is the only real thing that infuriates me. For some reason it works fine on Teutonic and Britannia just not the other modes
>>343781705
Medieval 2 was my favorite in the series for almost a decade and then a month ago I tried Napoleon.
Wow. Game has blown me away. The setting fascinates me and I have learned so much about the time period playing it and then doing my own research.
The canon and bullet mechanics feel so good and rewarding when they hit home.
Seeing a line of men scattered like rag dolls by shot is just pure gratification.
I think my only complaint is that there aren't as many unique feeling units in the game in any other sense aside from they just take a unit, give it a special name and jack its stats through the roof (I'm looking at you English Royal Guard Infantry).
I also wish that the campaign AI wasn't so predetermined to ally with the same factions every time, but I can deal with it.
Either way it's my new favorite game and as I type this I am ordering food so I can eat while watching Waterloo.
>>343786670
Not hostile, it's just shit.
>>343786961
Yeah, vassals are really pointless in the game. I only ever make them in the first 40 turns. After that I dont risk it.
Played Rome, Medieval II, Alexander and Attilla. Just picked war hammer up this week.
I gotta say war hammer. As a man who struggles in empire management and does really well in battles I really like the province system. I don't feel like its been simplified, at least not if you've limited hero abilities.
More than anything its interesting to see a game push the total war model so far interesting directions.
Napoleon by far
But I'm biased because Waterloo is my favourite movie
Got the blood for the blood god DLC with dismemberments, decapitations, bodies literally exploding and blowing up, undead fighting with their heads off, and holy shit am I having fun with Warhammer again.
Now THIS is Warhammer.
Medieval 2. It had the best campaign map, great battles, tons of awesome mods, and the graphics still hold up 10 years later. Rome 1 probably has the best battles/MP by a hair. Everything since Medieval 2 has streamlined the campaign map so that it's not really a game by itself anymore and made the battles feel completely weightless. Also DLC out the ass and no mods.
>>343787070
>rome 2 is great
I think you just have the worst taste.
>>343781705
Shogun 2 and then Medieval or Medieval 2 for mods. I have to be honest though, I'm not very good at the new TW and the friends who like the series love every single game, but playing Rome 2 was pretty horrendous. The incredible disgusting UI was making it impossible to play and when I would get it into it shit would become buggy at any given point even in the latest version. I think that's probably one of the major points why I just can't play any TW after Shogun2 anymore.
>>343787328
>day 0 DLC
And this is why I never pay for Total War games.
>>343781705
Attila is by far my favoriteI don't mean to talk shit but I don't think M2 holds up very well
>>343787695
There was a perfectly good reason for them to do it. Everything is fine :)
>>343781705
I'd have to go with Shogun 2. The new Warhammer TW is good, but everything about it is so dumbed down that I can't call it the best, even though various elements like the AI are the best they've ever been in a vanilla TW game. Combat and city building got dumbed down hardcore.
Attila is the best most refined TW game
People who say otherwise are biased as fuck
>>343787059
you should check out mount and blade napoleonic
>>343788124
>biased
why does /v/ not know how to use this word?
Do you get Attilla's improvement in Rome 2?
>>343788263
No, it's a separate game.
>>343788350
Seriously? this is stupid
Modded i'll have to say Empire or Napoopan.
Attila is probably the best TW game all around though (fuck you guys, i love the setting) but a lot of the management stuff feels really half-baked compared to more indepth games. Wish they'll expand on in other TW games.
Warhammer was fun for the first campaign but as of yet doesn't have a lot of staying power.
>>343788434
is this the meme when the king literally dies on the front because he dressed like a common soldier while he shouted
"IM THE KING IM THE K-Blurhg"
and then his army turned and ran while being chased to their deaths?
>>343788678
wat
>>343785771
Medieval 2's point system had several bugs that were never fixed like occupying a city causes you to lose reputation points, massacring a city causes you to lose more reputation points, and looting a city causes you to lose even more reputation points than that in spite of the fact that fewer people die.
>>343788835
Answer the question
My personal ranking:
Rome 2 > Attila > Napoleon > Shogun 2 > Warhammer > Rome 1 > Empire > Medieval 2
Attila seems have the best mechanics, but I prefer Rome's setting much more.
I would put Napoleon on the first place if the battle AI wasn't so poor.
Warhammer has high potential, but for now it lacks content.
Empire is interesting but similarly to Napoleon, AI (which is even worse) makes it unplayable for me.
Rome 1 and Medieval 2 were great for their time, but battle mechanics are poor compared to newer titles, and sometimes doesn't even work at all, as is the case with M2.
Best total war is Attila, at least its my favourite, FOTS, and med2 with bellum crucis come close
>>343788185
I heard a rumor it's multiplayer only and the servers are dead. I have hesitated in picking it up.
Do you have any more info on it?
>>343790431
I don't have it installed right now, but I'm sure it had at least one populated server, often reaching 200/200 players.
Classic Rome
>>343790431
Not that guy but i haven't had trouble finding a populated server when i've played recently.
I guess there not being 10000+ people playing right now means it's dead by /v/ standards but you won't have trouble finding people to play with.
It is MP only though.
>>343786961
>your vassals turn on you when realm divide happens.
You can get your reputation high enough that they stay loyal.
>>343781705
Shogun 2
>>343787695
>day 0 DLC
It was literally released a month after launch.
>>343787695
>day0
This came out just this past week and the game came out in May. So a month and a week or two dlc
>>343789904
Try Warhammer online. The speed of it is perfect for MP battles in my opinion
>>343781705
Rome 1.
>>343791428
It's too unbalanced, and the whole meta consists of spirit leech vamps and demigryph/greatsword spam
Objective WarScape™ Power Ranking:
1. Rome 2
2. Attila
3. Fall of the Samurai
4. Shogun 2
5. Empire
6. Napoleon
7. Warhammer®shit
>>343791893
>rome2 better then attila
noattila > empire > shogun > rome2 is the correct warscape ranking
>>343790431
Skip that dlc, it is multiplayer only. Instead, get a mod called L'Aigle on the workshop. Single player Napoleonic total conversion mod for Warband. Don't even need the dlc for it. It's great.
>>343791893
What the hell are you doing
>>343792242
warhammer as it is now shouldn't be in the top 5
I'm glad shills left this site in the mean time
>>343792242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98
>>343792876
>warhammer as it is now shouldn't be in the top 5
I agree, it has annoying bugs, balance issues and lacks content, the pic is just amusing
>>343792985
may I have the source ?
>mfw rushed tech that had Marian reforms in Rome 2
>mfw having centurions ~100 years they became into place
>>343781705
Warhammer is pretty good but it doesn't have all that much content right now so I will have to go with Atilla.
With mods probably Empire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7RFQ8Soges
am i the only one who likes Rome 2's soundtrack as much as 1's
>>343792242
>>343792683
>putting rome 2 any less than #1
Empire with mods is my favorite. But i do have a huge boner for the setting and the type of warfare depicted in that game.
>>343788678
that's saul jew meme
>>343794884
>Empire with mods
I really liked imperial splendor until they decided to make everything dark as fuck, what mods do you use?
>>343794884
did they fix the ai loop shit?
i could never take a city with walls cus the ai would lose its shit trying to go around a broken parapet and would loop so hard the game just broke in half
>>343785272
Muh nigga
>489 hours total played
Wtf am I doing with my life
>yfw autoresolve
I really love Warhammer. I also love Shogun 2 and Rome 2, even though it gets a lot of shit, for the settings.
>>343795887
>489
thats nothing I have over 1000 hours in attila, and the game isn't even that old
>>343781705
Warhammer is very simple but if you like the setting it's really great.
Atilla or Shogun 2 are the best games. Full stop.
>>343787328
>paying for a graphics option
>>343785272
Teethman is that you?
>>343796415
Warhammer if you like your combat more arcady.
>>343796134
>>343796134
The autoresolve is the main problem with Warhammer right now. That and the Campaign's empire management is far too simplified.
>>343796801
>>343796801
how embarrassing
>>343796646
Yep.
Still pretty fun to watch giants smash stunties.
>>343796896
>>343796859
The last patch made it a bit better now your stronger units are not almost at their death.
>>343796801
those islands aint no joke man
>>343797194
Nah. Most of it was cause they open fired on each other.
>>343787059
Check out total war center for this one napoleon mod the name escapes me but they have a bunch of differant scenarios and they added 1000s of units to the game
>>343785272
Shogun 2 is perfect.
I don't get it how much they managed to fuck things up afterwards..
>>343797363
>Italians
>every time
>>343797574
Started with Rome Total War back in the day. When Medieval 2 came out it pretty much devoured my life. AI was retarded without mods but I love the setting and the UI is simple and uncluttered unlike Rome 2.
Shogun 2 was a massive improvement over Empire and Napoleon (both of which I hated). Rome 2 is pretty decent and so is Attila, haven't played Warhammer.
If I had to rank them I'd say
1. Medieval 2
2. Rome 1
3. Shogun 2
4. Rome 2/Atitila
5. Empire/Napoleon
>>343791893
>be a pack of post-Sega CA fanbois
>have horrendously shit taste
>think Empire was the first Total War game
What a fucking surprise
>>343792985
how the fuck
>>343797663
I played the shit out of Shogun 1 back in the day, and this guy's ranking is objectively correct.
>>343781705
Rome 1, Medieval 2 and Shogun 2
Empire/Napoleon are the most boring
Rome 2 is the worst
>>343797754
>be a nostalgia filled retard
>refuse to acknowledge that med2 is a horribly broken game
>have no reading comprehension at all
not even the anon you are replying to, but what part of:
>WarScape™ Power Ranking:
>WARSCAPE
did you not understand?
M2, S2 and Warhammer are top 3 TW games. TW was a bit ruined by the fucking agent system, which went to complete shit since Rome 2 and Atilla. Like seriously, fuck those fucking agents and the fucking agent spam. They should've put a 2 agent of each type limit in campaign.
>>343797363
That is really fucking goofy. I feel like France and Venice planned that.
For campaign map mechanics - the absolute best in Attila. For in overall personal narrative and battles the best is Warhammer. When Warhammer gets more content it might overtake Attila for campaign map.
>>343798071
>shit since Rome 2
>since Rome2
did you not play shogun2? fuck the agents in that one, I won the ikko-ikki campaign almost entirely with agents
>>343785272
you mean fall of the samurai right?
>>343798071
Empire was the last total war to have a good campaign. Later games are destroyed by terrible design decisions fueled by casualization. The battles themselves are getting better though, especially with the newer games having wicked charge mechanics.
Anyone try the Fall of the Eagle mod for Attila? I was playing an Eastern Roman campaign a while ago but noticed the battles were way too quick and also I've always liked playing overhaul mods anyway, Roma Surrectum 2 was my favorite Rome 1 mod. Probably gonna install it for when I next play Attila but I was wondering if anyone already tried it
>>343795887
The best.
>>343796336
That's intense anon. Glad TWH is low on content and R2 pissed me off enough to skip Attila. I feel free.
>>343797658
>most hardworking
>greece
hah!
>>343796336
is that a fucking Tower of Silence?
>>343800510
yeah
>>343800305
>I feel free
good for you, now you just need to leave 4chin and finally be happy, remember Moot already left
>>343801593
:( I doubt that will happen. Unless I spam CP and that's too much effort. I'd miss chuckle fucking with you guys too much.
It's setting's lack of variety lets it down a bit but Shogun 2 is so close to perfection.
My issue with the newer TWs is kinda stupid but here it goes.
In pretty much all of the TWs before Rome 2 the first 5 turns of a campaign were a fucking cakewalk, but that was often long enough for many factions to diverge from their starting positions to make each game a bit different.
eg:
You play as some Japanese clan, you wreck some easy rebels and take the castle of the clan you start at war at. Then you look around and see how everyone else faired in those first few turns and that dictates your next move. Then you can get into the brawn of the campaign and get some doomstacks having at each other
In Rome 2 and Attila though I find right from the start literally everyone has doomstacks within two turns and its possible to get bogged down in campaign decisive high stakes battles with 5 turns of the campaign starting. If I bother to play though that initial stage I then find the next 100 turns extremely easy as almost all the ai factions also got bogged down and weren't able to make themselves stronger so just get steamrolled by me later on
Rome 1
Warhammer, Shogun 2 and Atilla are the only ones worth a goddamn fuck.
People who still say medieval 2 are megamemers
>>343781705
Medeival 2 without a doubt, most of the changes that came after that game are shitty
>>343797363
How fickle
>>343803206
Warhammer is garbage, a complete failure of a TW game
Medieval 2 for best mods. Shogun 2 is the best pure experience they've released, but I haven't played Attila or Warhammer so I'm not sure how good those are. All their DLC for their recent games is pretty annoying though.
>>343803349
More like you're poor and can't pirate it
>>343803206
>People who still say medieval 2 are megamemers
Don't worry, one day you'll grow up and develop adult tastes for things like vegetables and gameplay as distinct from graphical improvements.
>>343803646
>adult tastes
liking broken things is "adult tastes"?
>>343782351
I love the fuck out of Rome 1 but I can't stand how the AI always just slaps their units into a single flat line unless they're a Roman faction. Battles become a mess spread out across the whole map. At least Medieval 2 fixed that to some degree but it had even more problems.
To be quite honest Warhammer is one of my favorites so far. Heroes are fun to use and the unit variation is great. The campaign map, though detailed, leaves a lot to be desired but it's a hell of an upgrade from Rome 2.
>>343803646
One day you'll grow up and be able to afford a PC that can run a game made in the last decade.
>Napoleon
>Medieval 2
>Shogun 2
I tried to get into Empire because a lot of people say they prefer it to Napoleon but I think it was a mess.
>>343786090
true but whole realm divide thing was stupid. I understand it was beacause of the late game challange but it made allies useless.
>>343803821
>I think it was a mess.
it absolutely is, its just that the much bigger map and better grand campaign give it a lot more replay value then Napoopan
>>343785272
Yeah, but it's not exactly ambitious.
>>343803779
Every Total War game is more or less broken, without exception. Stop trying to make excuses for your plebian opinion.
>>343803803
MUH GRAPHICS is ruining vidya
>>343803821
>I tried to get into Empire because a lot of people say they prefer it to Napoleon
People actually say that? Everyone I've talked to about it say to pick up Napoopan instead since Empire is inferior
Look, I seriously love Medieval 2 but there's some many little features that the more modern TWs have that ME2's lacking that stop me from playing it over Shogun 2.
Little things like how moving units around on castle walls and giving move orders inside cities is pretty tedious to get them to go exactly where you want. Can't loosely group units. Horses are crazy OP. Cant easily see the range of missile units. Worse diplomacy options than recent titles.
Every now and then I get really into a campaign again and do love playing it but those little things all add up and make it just less fun as a timesink for me
>>343791893
this is wrong on so many levels
>>343804225
>graphics is the only thing that improves in 10 years
uh?? lol
>>343803803
sleep snug, smug
>>343791893
not only is this super wrong you couldn't even get your Shogun 2 rankings right
>>343804295
>horses are crazy OP
that's quite accurate for the time period
>>343804225
>Every Total War game is more or less broken, without exception
med2 is exceptionally broken, only empire and release rome2 are worse
>>343804678
That's probably true, but TW has gone against historical accuracy for enjoyment before
>>343781969
this, but nostalgiafags and poorfags pissed about DLC will violently disagree
>>343804295
>Horses are crazy OP
They maneuver like tanks, but certainly don't hit as hard.
Getting them to charge properly is in itself quite a feat, never mind getting your lategame, elite knights to break off without half the unit getting skewered by mod of angry peasants with pointy sticks.
>>343804295
My main issue with medieval 2 is it does not have multi-thread support, meaning PCs with many cores get shat on infinitely if you so much put unit size on large, and yeah, cavalry is too damn OP, and pikes are literal shit though some mods do balance them out.
warhammer is a really great game. the engine works well, heroes are well implemented and difference between all races makes the game really exciting even after many hours of gameplay.
problem is, the campaign ai still is pretty dumb, they removed some features from attila, there aren't settlement maps which were really interesting to play since you could fight a big army in small streets and still have a chance...
I feel like they could have done much better than this
>>343791195
It was a 7 mb download. That dlc was made before the game was released, they only withheld it for the esrb rating.
>>343797658
>Poland
>Most Trustworthy
>Germany
>Least Trustworthy
>Germany
Oh Polandball.
>all these babbies pretending that Rome 2 and Attila weren't piles of dogshit
This is the only correct answer, along with Shogun 1.
>>343808261
Surely it couldn't have been included in the 2GB patch.
>>343798796
>Attila
>casual
>>343799246
go to for Attila,atleast ubtil AE and MK come out
>>343787873
good, good goy
vey good goy
:)
>>343808796
Spotted the old man.
>>343808796
getting that shit to work post xp be hard tho nigga... unless you don't mind playing it on the lowest res
>>343797363
>le tricked faec.jpg
Rome 2 is the only tw game I've played probably going to get Shogun 2 next I've never realized what I've been missing out on in the tw series
>>343810368
Get Empire, or just be progressive and get Warhammer. Has anyone tried Battlefleet Armada?
>>343787435
The real reason he has shit taste is that he thinks Empire is good.
>>343809276
It's fairly easy to get it to work with a simple batch file.
>>343809257
I'm 24. Go back to playing Minecraft.
>>343792242
Empire is objectively in a worse state than Rome 2 so it should be last. It's a shitty and disappointing game that never got the patches it needed.
Liking Empire but hating on Rome 2 is just hypocrisy, unless you like Empire for its time period. But that doesn't say much about the quality of the game.
Warhammer.
>>343810368
If you want gunpowder, get Fall of the Samurai or Napoleon. Empire plays like shit, so don't bother.
Attila is pretty fun.
Warhammer or rome 1 if you want fantasy.
attila really grew on me. i had a lot of fun just raiding coastal cities as nordniggers
>>343812685
>>343813045
>>343781705
Medieval 2 and Warhammer
Best game was Shogun 2.
Warhammer brought me back after the Rome 2 shit fest though. More factions & units from tabletop then it might be the best.
>>343797363
Explanation
>>343813443
>This kills the total war center
It's ok.
>>343781705
Third Age Total War: Divide and Conquer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chPRYXS0YZI
why have the ingame voices only gotten worse since Rome Total War?
>>343814157
The recent games have great unit quotes imo. They even added unit chatter which makes it even better.
>>343808796
This. The 3D Total Wars coincided with the AI becoming utter dogshit, barely worth playing against.
>>343803497
>stomps on ground
>no enemy gets squished just pushed back
>that cartoon blood splatter
I like Warhammer, but man it runs rough on my pc.
>>343781705
I vote Rome 1. Sure it had AI issues, but the campaign was long and really fun to play. It also has the most responsive army mechanics to date: everything has just gotten slower and slower.
Also, hands down the best music of the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXWxBJXMF5c
>Valiant defeat with the General being the last man
Is there a more bitter sweet feeling?
>>343816947
Heroic victory with your General the only survivor.
Shogun 2 is such a pretty game
>>343816947
Best feeling is beating a full Imperial army with Samurai and levy's.
>>343817626
Wouldn't that go down as Pyrrhic though?
>>343818336
shit wrong person
>tfw no Marienburg Landship legendary unit
I hope they add it in as DLC later or something.
>>343782351
it doesnt though. it simply calculates your factions strength against its own, not much else.
>>343808796
This is and will be my favorite out of all tws I've played. Excellent taste my man.
Warhammer is my favorite but I've only played Medival 2 and Rome 2
Remember to install Radious for whatever version you prefer. ;^)
Those Naginata Ninja Light Cavalry Archers aren't going to play themselves.
madmen
>people literally mentioned every TW
These threads always turn into "my favourite setting"
>>343816738
This nigga!
the online is best though.
>>343815140
Funny how the focus on graphical upgrades always seems to coincide with gameplay downgrades
>>343800357
There was a collective laugh at this in Europe, you can't even get some bloody directions at a service desk at their airports thus they have to fill up half their tourist service businesses with European summer labor to stay in business.
>>343820792
Nothing will save the ruling classes when the people decide it's time to rise up
I wanna see cool total war webms of big battles. Why aren't there more webms in the thread?
>>343822590
I second this.
Ive only got some screens, I should start making webms.
It really pisses me off that decent ambush battles and unit line of sight hiding came into Total War AFTER all the fucking musket themed games.
It would be so sweet to lure some unit over a hillside into an absolute fucking lead gauntlet of fuckery that they couldn't see coming
>>343822202
:^)
>>343785562
>Medieval 2 are by far the worst
wow, easy there cowboy.
>>343782951
>especially med 2 with its multiple downright broken game mechanics
I keep hearing people say this, but they never actually explain which mechanics they believe are broken, or how they compare to the broken mechanics in every other game in the series.
>>343823307
I've always found moving units onto castle walls and within city streets broken prior to Shogun 2 and possibly Napoleon (I don't remember if the forts in Napoleon were as awful as in Empire)
>>343823307
>castle and town pathfinding
>pikes are broken, they all switch to shortswords instantly
>halberds missing some animations
>two handers are broken in some way I forget, they do worse then they should
>gunner troops are incredibly glitchy, can't really fire from walls and all and constantly refuse to fire
Just shit out stacks of foot knights or mounted knights and win the game.
>>343788678
Nah, that was the Battle of Muret during the Albigensian Crusade.
>>343812115
Spotted the contrarian.
>>343823176
It's a broken turd carried 100% by nostalgia, its setting and mods.
>>343823457
it's a little finnicky but it works fine, you just have to do one unit at a time
>>343823307
I'm not him, but he might be referring to some of the utterly illogical unit stats. It's like they never looked at some of them.
For example, an early knight in chainmail will have HIGHER defence than a fucking plate-armoured Gothic Knight, and the Gothic Knight will cost MORE and will only be available in the late period. What the fuck is the point in using the Gothic Knight? Or another example where a standard sword+shield dismounted knight will have a HIGHER attack than a fucking Zweihander shock knight, and the Zweihander knight will have lower defence. What the fuck is the point in the Zweihander knight?
>>343781705
Medieval I.
The battles are strategically complex and satisfying, the music is absolutely God tier and the city building/campaign is the best in the series.
Also, the simplistic graphics make the game excel at simulating combat without having to worry about making it visually animated.
>>343792985
You just know that nigga is drowning in nomad pussy
Rome I for those cavalry charges
Medieval 2 is my favourite because of the setting and the general feeling of it
Shogun 2 is fucking awesome and the only reason why it's not my favourite is for nostalgia
>>343785272
>Play for first time as the Date clan up north
>Beat up beginning fine
>Oh look, blue builder guys are near
>Start trade with them
>For no reason they declare war after only 6 turns max of trading
>They have a good 12 provinces
>Their ally has 10 or more
>Start wrecking their closest couple provinces
>A third large clan declares war
>Then a fourth a few turns later
This is fucking ridiculous. I know I set it to hard, but fuck I have over half the entire country hostile to me just because the blue assfaggots decided to declare war after agreeing to trade and being happy.
Has anyone ever managed to finish a campaign of Rise of the Samurai?
It's just so fucking boring I find
>>343824548
I have upwards of a thousand hours spread on all the total war games.
Never fucking finished even a short campaign, I always restart or switch to another game/mod when it becomes clear that im top dog.
Never been to the americas or properly fought the mongols or tims in med 2.
>>343823812
Come on. Show me your emotions, show me your hatred. Tell me more.
>>343814157
>cunnus
Heh...
>>343824924
The pure joy of using the longbowmens' stakes to bring down thousands of Mongols is one of the main reasons I'll still play ME2
Is there any news of when Bretonnia is being released? Also what the next faction after that?
>>343827093
No news
Likely either Wood Elves or Beastmen but it's mostly speculation and some educated guesses
>>343796896
LONGBOWS MOTHER FUCKER
Once all of the Warhammer factions are released it will be top 3 for sure. It will be the fantasy rival to Atilla, Shogun 2 & Rome 1.
>>343827547
it already has more variety than any of the other games
>>343788434
Is there a better job than longbowmen on the medieval battlefield?
>don't have to wear heavy ass armor
>expensive to train, so not thrown away by commanders
>OP as fuck longbow
>far from the bloody shitty fighting
>get all the bitches
>>343827858
When there's 11 factions and a huge map it will be indisputable.
People do have a point about the campaign depth but people's top TW pick will always vary, I'm just glad they didn't fuck this up like Rome 2.
>>343818336
It depends on initial strength. If you're vastly disadvantaged and win with only one guy left, it's still heroic.
>>343828259
>especially hated enemies and horribly treated as prisoners
>constant, intense training to maintain body strength needed to use a war bow
>stress of training fucks up your bones if you live long enough
Other than that, yeah.
>>343828620
sounds like you'd rather have 30 factions that are just recolors of each other than 4 factions that are significantly different
>>343829120
No, I'd rather have 11 factions that are significantly different with a larger map, which we are waiting on and I'll gladly pay extra for.
>>343827170
Would the Wood elves have the forest spreading mechanic?
>everyone ITT praising Attila
What makes it so good? I couldn't get into it. Seeing the same campaign mechanics from Rome 2 was an insta turn off for me.
Why couldn't they keep the campaign mechanics from Shogun 2? They were literally perfect.
Total Warhammer is my favorite but Shogun 2 and Napoleon are great too. I feel disgusting for buying the gore DLC for Warhams though
Gore DLC is literally cutting parts from the game and selling them as DLC.
What next, diplomacy DLC?
Or maybe sell the campaign map for 60$ and 'battle mode' as 20$ DLC?
>>343795467
>Try "Imperial destroyer" mod
>Campaign movement is so low it takes ages to move across your own home provinces
Jesus christ I don't understand how anyone could find this fun. Back to Imperial Splendor I guess.
>>343832134
It wasn't as bad as Rome 2 at launch.
Also the factions weren't recolors of each other.
>>343832134
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98
Just listen to tuvan throat singing while playing Shogun 2
>>343833223
>It wasn't as bad as Rome 2 at launch.
So it wasn't literally unplayable? And that makes it one of the best TW games according to many people?
>>343832614
Could have just pirated it anon
>>343833050
It's like I'm really reading youtube comments.
>>343833531
anon pls
>>343833569
or /v/
not much difference
>>343833569
Good goy.
>>343833680
>he doesn't know how to pirate steam DLC even with Denuvo
>>343833790
Spoonfeed me this black magic
>>343833737
I'm not endorsing the business practice you fucking idiot. Notice how I didn't quote every post complaining about the dlc, just yours, and think for a second why your post stood out as youtube comment tier.
What game killed Totalwar fanbase?
The best by far wasShogun 2Realm divideprevented it from being a perfect game. I hateRealm divideso fucking much. Thatshitis the stupidest mechanic in video game history.
What's the absolute best modded Total war game if I just don't like the vanilla experience.
>>343797658
>Britain : least trustworthy : France
Brits are still mad after the 100 Years War I swear
>>343834217
Rome 2 divided the fan base and turned it into baby boomers vs millenials with one word "streamlined".
>>343797363
>Scotland randomly joins in at the end.
>>343798178
SHUT IT DONE !
>>343834217
Rome 2 made me give up on Total War.
Until Warhammer.
