What's the best house in Skyrim and why is it Honeyside?
>house is in the worst village
fuck no
Lakeview
>not "building" your own house near Falkreath
Disgusting.
>>343764447
>comfy
>autumn forest, warmest region in the province
>balcony at the lake
>tanning rack outside, alchemy and enchanting inside
Please, Riften is one of the best cities in Skyrim, right next to Whiterun and Solitude.
>>343764459
>>343764495
Enjoy your giant attacks.
>>343764643
>filthy thieves fucking everywhere, even under your very own house
>whores and other scum
>ruled by corrupted inbred retards
Riften sucks ass
>>343764495
>not the one near solitude
>>343764329
lakeview hands down
>>343764329
Skyrim is a shit game and I'm pirating it again today just to piss you off, Todd.
>>343764843
There is NOTHING redeemable about that swamp.
>>343764843
Enjoy draugrs murdering your wife and children while you're out of your house.
>>343764768
>Not training your kids to fight by practicing on the occasional bandit it giant
So should I wait to choose the house until I've seen all the options?
markarth house was pretty cool
>>343764973
>leaving your house
Markarth has the best house. nice and roomy, fireplace right outside the bedroom, tucked away in a comfy little corner all the way at the top of the stairs.
inb4 17 year olds begin Toddposting
I can't be the only one who cringes hard when I see Toddposting, right?Right?
>Can't get Windhelm house without doing Civil War
Why isn't there a mod to make Balgruuf side with Ulric?
>>343765067
Enjoy sleeping on rocks homo erectus
>>343765000
Just buy Honeyside, trust me. It's the best house hands down.
>>343765117
>>343764329
>>343764447
>>343765191
It's so damn comfy.
>Whiterun is best town. Plenty of shopkeepers, simple layout, located right in the middle of Skyrim so it's a perfect place for a base
>The house there is the smallest shittiest house
>Doesn't even have an enchanting table so you have to smith all your shit and then plod up to Dragonsreach to enchant it
Fuck
>>343765067
But then you have to live in Markarth.
>Tfw I saved up to buy the house in the winter city ( i forget the name)
>So excited
>first thing I discover is blood on the godamn floor and then after moving most of my stuff in a secret butcher torture room
fuck that place I never moved out so fast in a game before.
I'm cool with my little dorm room in Winterhold desu.
>>343765306
Breezehome is alright, but Whiterun isn't really comfy at all.
>>343765268
Kill yourself you little fuckseriously it's not funny and never was, and I'm gonna cyberbully each one of you cunts until a percentage of you commit suicide
>>343765318
You can pay to clean up all the gore after solving the murder mystery
>>343765318
wasn't that bad, kinda reminded me of that house in anvil. loved that house
>>343765531
>>343765513
I love Whiterun. It's basically the most vanilla Skyrim town. And I absolutely love rolling hills-esque environments so traveling outside of Whiterun is maximum comfy. Plus the snow forests are like 2 feet away as well if you're into that.
I got the mod that adds a basement to Breezehome to fix all the problems with the shit it has, and I have never changed my house location.
>>343765614
>>343765634
nah fuck that, I moved into a house a long time ago that had a secret torture room and that shit brought flashbacks.
>>343764459
>>343764495
My only problem with the hearthfire homestead is, admittedly, because I'm a greedy prick in that I wish I could have ALL rooms options on one house.
A greenhouse, an enchanting tower, a library, an armory, a kitchen, a trophy room, all of it.
Also:
>tfw you adopt kids and need to carefully plan to trophy room's contents so if the kids accidentally stumble inside at night they don't flip the fuck out.
I mean, normally this wouldn't be a problem, but I've got a mod that expanded the gifts I could give them and they're packing dragonbone swords and bows/arrows.
I also wish I could hire a damn tutor to come teach my kids. I mean, shit, I'm with both Bards College and Winterhold College, I should be able to pay someone to be willing to take some time to come over and teach my kids.
>>343765000
Feel free to grab any house you see/that opens up. You'll have enough gold eventually to tank the entire Tamrielic economy through inflation soon enough.
Randomly, another thing that annoyed me about owning a home in Skyrim: no ability to throw parties and such.
I mean, shit, I would have loved to host a party with my fellow hold thanes and introduce my kids to some of the other children.
>that awkward but so natural feel of slipping into your bedroom during your party so you can change and finding Balgruuf fucking Elisif on your bed
>>343765170
Actually, you should be able to get it after the civil war under the new jarl. Unlocking the house involves first learning about the murders, which, I'm not sure requires your allegiance.
Vote best house
http://www.strawpoll.me/10662879
>>343765962
Your house had a secret torture room? The fuck?
>>343765860
Forests are much comfier than rolling hills IMHO
I prefer my vampire keep.
>>343765962
could you give details about this torture room?
I like the Whiterun house because it's actually the only somewhat proper/believable city in Skyrim, while using Lakeview manor as a sort of resort house (and only me gets to use it, wife and kids have to stay in Whiterun)
>100+ mods
>every survival/immersion mod I could find
>perma death mod
>living in Whiterun tavern
>spend day hunting outside city with my pupper companion, crafting items with the skins I collected, cooking the meat, ect.
>come home at night, drink mead and fuck/impregnate my waifu
Vanilla Skyrim is fucking awful, but it can be pretty great heavily modded.
>>343765306
>>343765513
>>343765860
Shit, Breezehome's got good memories for me, it was my first home in Skyrim. I fondly remember this particular Random Encounter outing:
>My DB wakes up one morning and decides to go hunting to stock the larder
>Heads out of whiterun and keeps trying and failing to snag some deer (heavy armor, everyone)
>Finally get one
>Look up and notice I'm in a giant camp
>Fuuuuuuuck
>Survive the giants and mammoths with a lot of run and shooting
>kill them
>Notice I wandered into a crevice where bandits were hiding
>For the love of Jone and Jode, really?
>Kill bandits
>Start to head back
>Random woman comes up and tells me she escaped capture from a fort controlled by bandits that I SWORE I CLEARED OUT LAST MONTH
>Decide it's my duty as thane and Dragonborn
>clear the place out
>Shit, it's noon (in-game)
>Start to head back
>SUDDENLY! DRAGON ATTACK!
>Alkosh's double barbed dick, seriously?
That little outing pretty much made me think that was EXACTLY what a day-in-the-life of the average Dragonborn was.
Also, as for any shortcomings with breezehome: mods, yo.
>>343766730
>breaking your immersion with mods
>>343766696
Tell me some essential mods for that kind of playthrough
>>343765962
>secret torture room
>>343766826
>implying there aren't plenty of mods that don't enhance immersion
>Implying there aren't plenty of vanilla skyrim aspects that hurt immersion
>>343766696Were you using Skyrim Family life overhaul to impregnate her or Beeing Female?
Also, another very rich experience in Skyrim:
>Playing with Daughteru Lucia in the tree plaza in Whiterun
>See a bunch of strange men in Akaviri-knock-off Dragon Priest masks coming up from the Plains district
>Tell Lucia to go home
>"But momm-"
>"NOW!"
>"Awww"
>She's clear just as they come up to me
>Alright, you fuckers, do you want your asskicking here or home delivered?
It was like right out of some kind of Skyrim movie.
>>343767140
Nigga that second paragraph was cringeworthy
Maybe /tesg/ is more suited for you
>>343765117
I suspect it's mostly 30-40 year old manchildren.
Skyrim has been out for like 5 years now and there's still
>No questline overhaul/randomizer mod
>No mod to make Balgruuf join the Stormcloaks
>No mod to make Serena dragonborn
>No mod to make combat not terrible
>No mod to make magic not terrible
>No mod to make cities a believable size because "muh world space"
>No good FMA mods
Fucking HOW?
>>343766981
Hunterborn
Realistic needs
Frostfall
Wet and cold
Lootifcation + tons of armor/weapon/misc item mods
Various combat mods
Hentai pregnancy
Sexlab
Plus tons more. I would post the full list, but I'm not at my computer at the moment.
>>343767514
Hey, at least there is sex mods amirite guise ?
>>343764916
it has a fishery, fish are fantastic for alchemy
>>343767937
So does Lakeview.
>>343767514
I guess it depends on what you're looking for, there's a ton of mods available for magic, city overhauls, combat, etc.
I was surprised at the amount of Witcher mods
>>343767514
>No questline overhaul/randomizer mod
Pretty sure that exists
>No mod to make Balgruuf join the Stormcloaks
Not sure this exists
>No mod to make Serena dragonborn
Think you could do this with Console Commands. (tricky part is if she'll use any of her shouts)
>No mod to make combat not terrible
>No mod to make magic not terrible
Define 'not terrible' and I'm fairly sure there's plenty of mods out there that help with both of those.
>No mod to make cities a believable size because "muh world space"
I've seen people add more buildings and shops as well as the settlement area immediately around the cities, as well as expansion of the non-loadscreen cities, but sadly few of them that actually increase the loadspace of the cities.
This one might just need multiple mods though to look up.
>no good FMA mods
That I can't help you with at all.
>>343766229
>>343766482
>>343767076
It had sound proof walls and all sorts of shit happened down there I don't even want to think about it.
>>343768260
How did you discover it? Why would you even buy the house?
>>343768126
lakeview has the apiary not the fish hatchery
>>343766110
I'm so fucking mad right now.
>>343767805
Yeah but they all suck unless you have zero standards.
>>343768359
0sex disagrees with you and calls you a dumb faggot.
>>343768347
>being a gun-obsessed burger
Guns were made to kill people, it's time to grow up and face facts.
>>343765962
>>343768260
Might not have been made for torture, just keeping an insane relative locked up so they don't shame the family or because the family felt they could provide better care than sanitariums at the time.They likely could
Think like the Last Dwemer under What's-his-name's house.
>>343768524
I demand you to delete this.
>>343767514
Okay I'll bite
>No questline overhaul/randomizer mod
How would you do that in a way that wouldn't break the game or it'd require a shitton of work for no pay off since nobody plays Skyrim anymore?
>No mod to make Balgruuf join the Stormcloaks
Wouldn't that go against his character? He doesn't want to pick a side. Might as well make a mod to make Tulius join the Stormcloaks.
>No mod to make Serena dragonborn
... why? You're the Last Dragonborn.
>No mod to make combat not terrible
Damage Multiplier
>No mod to make magic not terrible
Midas, Lost Grimoire and Apocalypse
>No mod to make cities a believable size because "muh world space"
That'd require remodeling the entire area in a lot of places since a lot of stuff can't have architecture built on. Again a lot of work with no payoff.
>No good FMA mods
Not sure what that is. Full Metal Alchemist?
I'm not saying that Skyrim isn't terrible and wouldn't benefit from a better story, gameplay and world. I'm saying there's a reason why these mods haven't been made.
>>343768331
I didn't buy it moved into it with a friend because it was up for rent by a roommate . We weren't notified and found it by accident.
>>343768347
>>>/pol/
But there's nothing wrong with better mental health care, as long as they include counseling along with medication.
>>343768347
I personally feel better mental healthcare is the best but also the trickiest solution.
Removing guns simply takes away a means, but if someone is deadset on harming another, gun or no gun will not keep them from hurting someone they want to hurt, and in today's society, too many people will refuse or cannot defend themselves when their life is in danger.
>>343767514
actually, weird question: do you want serana to be dragonborn or just to know shouts?
I mean I suppose in theory it would be a cool mod where as Dragonborn you could go on a quest to learn to teach Thu'um to others and start training followers.
>>343768737
>>343768804
Yes I'm fine with mental and background checks. I'm booty blasted about "all of these" cuckold choice winning.
>>343764905
W-why are you doing this?
>>343768498
Okay I admit that looks fantastic, but it looks like it needs a ton of graphics mods to be decent, and I don't have room in my load order
>>343766696
>>343767542
Since you seem pretty knowledgeable, can you tell me what are the best/most immersive sex mods and how to install them? I'm afraid I don't have the patience to slog through sexlab and spend 1 hour to install them and then 10 hours to make them work.
>>343768943
>and I don't have room in my load order
Nigga merge some mods. Also it's stand alone. Just install some bodies and shit with HDT physics for tits dicks and vagoos.
>>343768943
That and the mod creator said he wasn't going to work on it unless he thinks people want him to aka give me more endorsements, patreon bucks and nexus positive comments
>>343764329
You want comfy motherfucker? I'll give you comfy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfatj32zT9M&index=96
>>343768943
>>343768947
>>343769074
>>343769085
Get out of my house thread.
>>343769085
What's the point of doing anything if it doesn't increase your e-fame?
>>343769085
It's basically complete anyway. Yeah he made some drama because of Skyrim 2.0 but who gives a tit.
>>343769235
What's the point of having a house if you don't have a wife to fuck in it.
>>343768804
Be dragonborn. I figure that if the player is the last dragonborn, and Miraak was the first, that there had do be others in between. The only ones that could live long enough for the player to meet would have to be immortal.
Plus, I can get Serena and Miraak as followers, so having a 3Dovahkiin team fight Alduin would be pretty baller.
>>343769167
>open windows in an arctic climate
So close.
>>343769353
But I have a wife. Her name is Ysolda, and turns out she's a fucking drug dealerHow do I get a divorce
>>343769382
Maybe it's really warm inside.
>>343764495
Constant Bandit and Giant attacks, the worst part being the fucking Giant spawns inside the house when you're outside and you can just hear the dopey cunt mong out. Fucking hell why are Bethesda games so atrociously buggy, and then never patched?
>>343769451
Kill her.
Or get the Divorce mod but it tends to bug out and not let you remarry.
>>343769074
>Nigga merge some mods
I can't manage to do that without getting invisible items, NPCs, etc. even on mods where the merges have been tested.
>>343769370
Serena isn't dragonborn
>best house
>not the one in Markarth
do you even comfy?
>>343769235
Sorry anon, but most of the vanilla houses are boring to me. I bought Breezehouse, but I spend more time in houses from mods. Is that ok?
>>343769470
There is no way it's warm inside. I would buy that house if it was in South Cyrodiil.
>>343769382
b-but it's a magic Bosmer house with warm baths inside!
I'm not giving up that easily! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esi-bmUCTag
Why are there so many damn Skyrim threads now? This game is over, played and talked to death, you fags need to go back to /vg/
>>343769638
Only if you drop a proportionate amount of gold after installing the mod. Can't have free houses appear out of thin air after all, can we?
>>343769590
That's why I need a mod to make her one
>>343769235
Dicks are always relevant to TES hombre.Here you go anyway famalamb: the best house mod ever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kn5Z98ECxo
>>343769648
Consider me won over, minus the fact that I can't have my spouse and children live there :/
Where is the treehouse located?
>>343769726
I actually just picked it up recently and am playing through it.
Also it's the first Elder Scrolls game I've played seriously, after playing 5 minutes of Morrowind and hating every second of it.
Does that make you mad?
>>343768947
The sex mods I'm using are the ones I listed. So, I'm not too knowledgeable about those types of mods. But to get started, you need XPMS/FNIS, the sexlab framework, and then what ever addons you want. I'm just using HP. Install using wrye bash. You'll also need body replacers, which you'll have to install manually. There's tons to choose from.
>>343769726
there's been skyrim threads every day for 5 years, you just haven't noticed them.
also, skyrim's getting a remaster in a few months and most of us are getting it for free on pc so it's an excuse to go back and play the game again for the first time in ages
also, Vlindrel Hall = best home
>>343769802
Do you have legitimate autism?
Why do you want HER to be a Dragonborn? Why would you want anyone other than you and Miraak to be Dragonborn?
>>343769881
Do you have to pay at least 150,000 Septims for the house? Otherwise consider my immersion shattered. Are there guards?
>>343769779
For Whiterun mansion, you find the property lease on a dead body. Owners were killed by a bear, so I killed the bear, so it's mine now.
>>343769726
Because it'sfun
>>343767140
>not using HentaiPregnancy and Children+Soul Gems
>>343770080
Mod authors incorporating a mini-quest to obtain the house makes me rock hard.
>want to play skyrim
>redownload
>download mods
>this had taken days
>start it up
>remember how awful the combat is
>close
>uninstall
Like, eight times now
Someone please tell Bethesda to give up and let Capcom make the combat already
>>343770260
it's not that bad though. i'd say skyrim's combat is the first time in TES history where it's been acceptable. not great, but nothing to chimpout over.
>>343767542
Frostfall is great
>Northern part of map
>running out of supplies
>no trees so I can't make a fire
>a blizzard starts
>db is so cold that I can only walk
>suddenly a dragon appears
Seriously, why did the modders understand that Bethesda failed to
>Actually caring and visiting your house in Skyrim
Holy shit
>>343770260
>implying mods don't fix the combat
>>343769986
Because I think it would be cool. Do I need any other reason?
>>343770362
Its awful and games released years before Skyrim had infinitely better combat systems
>>343770406
They dont. Period.
>>343770369
>not being immersed
I like all houses in Skyrim, they're all great in their own ways and they're all comfy as fuck. Honeyside is definitely one of the comfier ones, the mannequins downstairs freak me the fuck out though, I shit you not they're exactly like those plastered splicers in Bioshock, I look away and they're right fucking next to me. Scares the shit out of me, my house is fucking haunted by these creepy cunts.
>>343770369
>Not getting the Lover's Comfort buff whenever you get the chance
Dumb goldposter.
>>343770609
wasn't there a glitch where the mannequins would animate and follow you around?
>>343770406
It doesn't. It fixes some aspects of it, but ultimately it's a fucked up core mechanic beyond repair.
Markarth is max comfy. I love mountains and misty waterfalls.
Fug, I need to move back to Colorado.
>>343769898
Somewhere in Riften area. Those autumn like forests. There's a quest to get it IIRC. I dunno about children but if you have followers and that one follower mod you can just say that they can use that house as their own. Works fine with married followers.
>>343770004
Nah you just waltz in and it's yours. The modder is a busy bloke. This is only the demo for his island mod which will include this house.
No guards but nothing is stopping you to form a guild with Guild Starter mod and populate it with members. It has enough rooms. I kept my Sorceress' Guild in Azura's Dawn while on the other playtrough I had this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvPN2cGf8I4 as an HQ for my Paladin's Guild.
>>343770667
dang that's a nice watercolor. did you do that?
>>343770716
I believe so. Sometimes I'd sleep in my bed and wake up to find them standing over me motionless, but they'd literally be looking right at me.
>>343768804
>it would be a cool mod where as Dragonborn you could go on a quest to learn to teach Thu'um to others and start training followers.
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/31061/?
faggot
>>343770558
>implying that you can get immersed in Skyrim with mods
I dont have enough gold lels to post fuck
>>343770769
I just want swords that stab.
>>343768804
>I mean I suppose in theory it would be a cool mod where as Dragonborn you could go on a quest to learn to teach Thu'um to others and start training followers
There is quite literally a mod that does that. I gotta look it up, forgot the name.
>>343768804
It can't be too hard to get her va back and there's high demand so if the remaster doesn't let us marry Serana I'm going to sue bethesda.
>>343770959
>implying you need mods at all to be immersed
>>343764459
Yeah Lakeview Manor is the best. Your wife and kids love it more than any other home and it's comfy as fuck.
>>343770716
>>343770893
>>343770609
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkBatGudNoA
>>343771045
Just shoot the voice actress a message on facebook. How long can it take her to record a few lines on her phone?
>>343765531
>He thinks you can bully a Toddposter.
Anon, posting Todds makes you immune to everything.
>>343771130
>implying that the game is playable without mods
>>343771150
>using autism mods and then blaming it on the game when you fuck up your mannequins
>>343771263
>implying the game isn't playable without mods
>>343765513
My biggest fucking problem with breezehome is the fireplace leads to nowhere. all the smoke and heat goes straight under the bedroom floor. You need ventilation!
>>343771434
>implying
>>343770554
>>343770769
Nope. You CAN actually make combat in Skyrim pretty serviceable andfun. Sure this needs some work and it makes it more action orientated but at the same time it enhances the RPG elements.
Reposting my quickguide:
ULTIMATE COMBAT
ACTION COMBAT
COMBAT EVOLVED
ORDINATOR
REVENGE OF THE ENEMIES
ASIS
Attack Commitment
TK DODGE
World eater beater
Dragon Soul Relinquishment
Thunderchild
More Draconic Dragon Aspect
Ultimate Dragons
Archery Gameplay Overhaul or Nock to tip
DUAL WIELD PARRYING
Unlocked Grip
Winter Myst
>basic spells
Colorful Magic
Forgotten Magic
Witchhunter Spells
Prayers Pack
Paladin spell pack
>encounters
THE WALKING DEAD
IMMERSIVE PATROLS
EXTENDED ENCOUNTERS
OBIS
Extensible Follower Framework - more followers because more enemies in general
>loot
MORROWLOOT
Immersive Armors
Lore Weapons Expansion
Insanity Shields
Third Era - Dwemer
Realswords Imperial and Nord
Arcania Armory
B-D-Y-E-B Shield Mod
Dawnguard Arsenal
Heavy Armory
WEAPONIZER
Bobs Armory
Horker Weapons Revised
>wow faget you need ALL that to make it fun?
Yeah it's a pain, but I'm just saying it's possible to make it fun with mods.
Just a quick demonstration/summary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qQD1VO69Gs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5WM8ejvC8g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M56N0tD0lU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc9c7gPl0M8
Remember there are mods for pretty much everything. Don't parrot /v/ just because you can't be bothered to put in some time to customize the game to your specific needs.
>>343771579
It has a chimney...
>>343771627
>30+ mods to make combat fun
jesus christ
>>343771334
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBTZ7Pd7nTo
>>343771627
>World eater beater
Ew no.
>>343764803
>Not being the thieves
>Not working with the Imperials to instate Maven as Jarl to get points with the Black-Briars
>>343771627
Iv done all those mods
It doesnt make the combat good. Its fundamentally fucked and no number of mods can fix it.
>>343771808
No you haven't.
>>343771627
>those videos
Dark Messiah has better combat, and it came out years before Skyrim
I mean its not as bad as Witcher, but holy shit is Skyrims combat bad.
>>343771754
God the atmospheric music in this game is beautiful.
>>343771878
I truly have, and it doesnt help. The core issues of the overly simplistic combat is not solved by any of those mods.
>>343771627
I don't need all of that.
I have 6 immersion mods, for sounds, and more lush cities an towns.
Faster leveling and higher trainers. Works well for a full nord mage run.
>>343771993
>playing TES just for the combat
Just look at morrowfags
>>343771721
I had like over 300 mods overall with merged and bashed patches.
Modding can be fun for some people. It gets really addictive but I guess people don't care that much these days to mod something themselves.
>>343771774
It's obligatory for people who want a decent final boss. That said if you want quest mods then pretty much Thirteen Oranges and Trainwiz have you covered.
>>343771808
>>343771993
I doubt that. Mostly because you're not providing any reasons as to why it's fucked even after all that. Just saying "lol it's fucked" and "core dude" is not useful.
>>343771913
DM's combat is legendary and it really was advanced for its time. Skyrim is a big game all things considered, can't be polished in every corner even with mods.
>>343772014
I had to compile that to remedy the melee and overall challenge in this game.
>home
camping outside by the fire is more comfy
After playing Fallout 4 I'm looking forward to house building in ES6, hopefully there'll be even more options to build a cozy as fuck place
that's assuming I'm still alive in 2022 or whenever the fuck they decide to start making it jesus christ todd why are you being a dick about this
>>343772079
Combat is but one part of Skyrim, dont oversimplify to save face.
>>343772135
muh nigguh
>>343772132
>DM's combat is legendary and it really was advanced for its time.
No it wasnt, its was barebones as fuck. No one else bothered to make a source based sword game that relied on the physics, but it wasnt ahead of its time at all.
>>343768347
> Both the republican and democratic candidate want stricter gun controls
Get with the times nigger
>>343772360
Dunno, I was blown away. If the word "advanced" is too much then I guess it's right to call it unique and all in allfun
>>343772214
I swear, if Todd replaces every town in Hammerfell/Elsweyr/wherever the fuck with settlement building I'll commit sudoku.
Skyrim was still redeemable, but Fallout 4 was the last fucking straw when it came to awfulness, grindiness, radiantness and general mediocrity.
if they were going to take 4 FUCKING YEARS TO SHIT OUT A TURD THEY SHOULD HAVE JUST GIVEN THE FUCKING LICENSE TO PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE FALLOUT LICENSE LIKE OBSIDIAN FOR FUCKS SAKE TODD IT EVEN RUNS LIKE SHIT
Now make TES VI so I can preorder it you cunts.
>>343772132
>Mostly because you're not providing any reasons as to why it's fucked even after all that.
Because EVERY feature in relation to Skyrims combat is awful, you can point out absolutely anything about it and its shit. Animations, impacts, physics, weapon balance, the shitty 'kill moves', skills (or total lack thereof of anything interesting), weapon choice (fucking MADE spears and didnt even put them in), scaling, enemy types and diversity
Just every feature was totally off the mark. And for a AAA developer to still be releasing games with combat this trash is shameful.
>>343772896
I had fun with it
>>343772132
>It's obligatory for people who want a decent final boss. That said if you want quest mods then pretty much Thirteen Oranges and Trainwiz have you covered
I prefer Improved Main Quest Finale myself, but it's only available on the Workshop
>>343773012
Literally irrelevant. We are talking subjectively about Skyrims shit combat system, what you or I think has no bearing on the fact that many other games do an infinitely better job than Bethesda for combat.
>>343772687
I have lots of complaints about Fallout 4, but I thought house ownership was massively improved over previous Bethesda games. The dialogue and character customization got simplified massively, but house ownership stuff got a bunch of new features and complexity and it all fit within their overall goal of simulating a world. That and the gunplay were the only redeeming factors.
>>343773141
>>343773012
>subjectively
Derp, objectively
>>343773148
I disagree with you. The world was shit and unimpressive. House ownership was flakey and unimmersive, the only real house available was in shitty baseball town that didn't make sense, and otherwise the most effective thing to do was just putting a safe in the middle of valley springs or whateverthefuck vault 101 town was called.
If Bethesda wants to include settlement building they can do it all they want, but not at the cost of the main game.
>>343767426
I would agree mostly, it seems to be split between those 30-40 year olds who feel their sacrosanct franchises have been defiled, and the late teens early 20s who want so desperately to be counterculture and be against whatever is new and popular, and do so by associating themselves with the old games.
A lot of it is probably just good old fashioned shitposting, though, and there is literally nothing wrong with that.
>>343772896
>Animations
Can be changed. They even hold risk with Attack Commitment.
>impacts
Can be change and poise/stagger/blow back is already addressed in the quickguide with ACTION COMBAT and COMBAT EVOLVED
>kill moves
Can be completely removed with Violens.
>skills
ORDINATOR, again already addressed
>scalling, enemy types and diversity
See
REVENGE OF THE ENEMIES
THE WALKING DEAD
IMMERSIVE PATROLS
EXTENDED ENCOUNTERS
OBIS
REVENGE OF THE ENEMIES
ASIS
IMMERSIVE CREATURES - lore patch
Again, all already addressed.
This is how I knew you were talking out of your ass.
I repeat, there are mods for pretty much everything and you can fine tune this game to your liking. Stop parroting.
>>343771913
And Dark Messiah is a linear game with much less content on an engine that isn't as able to be modular as with other things. It's a fun game, but it had different aims and goals from Skyrim. Sure they both have sword swinging, spell flinging, and stealth slinking, but Dark Messiah is more closer to that Redguard spinoff rather than a main series title.
How likely is it that the remaster patch for PC will fuck up mods?
I think the only visual mod I have is darker caves/nights.
I really want to play some comfy hiking and home building but without RN&D and Frostfall I don't want to bother.
>>343773793
They'll need to make a new SKSE which will probably take a while. I doubt anything else will be broken though, unless Bethesda tries to half-ass a new patch or something.
>>343773793
This is Bethy we're talking about. Even their texture packs are bugged and needed fan patching. Fucking texture packs.
>>343773793
Current PC Skyrim with Mods will still look better
>>343773793
http://store.steampowered.com/app/489830/?snr=1_7_15__13
It's not a patch, it has its own Steam Store page.
That said, a lot of mods will not work without things such as SKSE, which will have to be updated for the new game, and the guy who made ENB is kind of going through some shit right now so he might have some trouble making it for the special edition.
>>343772514
Literally a lie
>>343768524
Here in America, my people have a saying. "Molon Labe". It means "come for my guns and I'll fucking kill you".
![[can't wake up].gif](https://i.imgur.com/OYDV7CP.gif "[can't wake up].gif")
>start a new game
>keep running across Colorful Magic bosses that always one shot me
This is actually pretty fun. I wouldn't even have know it added all of these unique bosses to the overworld/dungeons had I not been exploring them again.
>>343773638
there are hardly any that fixed the GODAWFUL quests and writing.
>>343774698
So it'll be its own download and everything? Oh well.
I was saving a playthrough until then but I guess if I'm going to be waiting even longer for mods to get working I may as well play now anyway.
>>343774698
why bother making a new SKSE when people won't pay for mods?
>>343771627
>Posting Mods that are buggy, poorly balanced, outdated, or poorly made (script heavy, ect)
Good one, Skyrim combat is impossible to make good.
>>343764329
Because it has the best weapon in the game on the table outside(the knife and fork)
>>343773793
IIRC ANY Mods that use SKSE (which is like 90% of them) would have to be remade from scratch.
So good luck with that.
>>343773793
If it's a separate library entry (which it seems to me), I doubt it will affect your current installation.
Probably need a new SKSE depending on how extensive the changes are.
Mods that fix/change vanilla stuff will likely need an update. How extensive, I'm not certain. I'm thinking meshes, textures etc.
Fuck, maybe even the community fixes will need to get updated if Beth bothers to implement some of them natively.
>>343775269
>GODAWFUL quests and writing.
Well this was a combat quickguide. Let me take a shit and I can easily compile a quest recommendation. I already said that everything from Trainwiz and 13oranges is good to go.
There are of course lots of other great lore friendly quest/land mods such as Undeath, VIGILANT, Darkend, Cowl of Gray Fox, Wyrmstooth, Spectraverse, Moon and Star etc. and also those which can enhance the vanilla ones such as The Choice is Yours, better/immersive markers etc. Also the bounty hunting radiant ones.
You can also make your own adventures with Guild Starter to build factions of your own and a bunch of class specific mods to enhance your RP and play time. Such as prayer/religion mod for paladins that make them specialized against the undead and demons or the shapeshifting and animal companionship to play a druid. Also this is one of the only games to allow you to make your own vampire thrall army in your own vampire castle. Or pretty much the only open world RPG to give you Lich abilities such as literally respawning inside of your phylactery when you die.
Just go to tesgeneral.com and check under new land/quests.
>>343776097
I listed the optimal, compatible and tested mods. Most of those are very lightweight in terms of scripts. Hell the most essential ones are not even using any.
>>343773793
most mods will be fine.
>>343776531
Wouldn't SKSE just need to updated to work with the 64-bit exe?
>>343768498
I've been out of the loop forever, what is 0sex?
>>343776865
Easy to use sex mod with great animations. Just google it famalamb.
>>343776865
My life
>>343777135
>>343776670
Those were quest add-on or expansion quest.
There are hardly any that fixes the vanilla quest and writing. They pretty much all take you to underground ugly linear shithole to kill/fetch shit. Even the non-radiant quests seems like shit you could generate in a spreadsheet, and the npcs often have the most contrived reasons for the quests or just plain generic.
>>343767514
>fans constantly complain about Skyrim removing all the RPG elements of previous games
>almost no mods to add them back
hmm
>>343777913
BTFO
>>343777508
I know but aside from sidequests there are some decent Civil War overhauls and faction overhauls like making the Bard's College an actual Bard faction complete with perks and animations with songs. Also quite a few mods to allow you to have multiple choices with some of the quests, such as refusing to obey Molag Bal and calming down the priest. Also joining the Vigilant of Stendarr faction before they're wiped out.
I won't defend the writing and blandness of most quests, I admit they're pretty weak which is why I mostly listed add-ons. The most fun I had in terms of questing when it comes to unmodded Skyrim is with the DG and DB DLCs.
>>343776670
>I listed the optimal, compatible and tested mods. Most of those are very lightweight in terms of scripts. Hell the most essential ones are not even using any.
Not really.
The list you posted would take alot of fine tuning and time to get everything to work together without hiccups, meanwhile vanilla Skyrim is still going to be a buggy pile of shit that's going to fuck with the game no matter what, so it's a moot point. Moreover, it would take even more hours upon hours of worthless fine-tuning to get this integrated into an already established mod list.
I'm not even going to sit here and induvially point out the fatal flaws of each mod you posted, look them up yourself.
But to give proof, RotE is notiorus for fucking with enemy scaling and giving high-level mobs a huge amount of 1-shot kills spells.
>>343767805
>still no rape mods
>>343777913
World's Dawn. Also adds in Diablo-like random modifiers on dropped enemy gear, making loot worthwhile and fun.
>>343778963
>fishing for someone to spoodfeed you the rape mods
kys. If you know how to download sexlab you know where to find rape mods.
>>343778613
>your list is shit
>I won't tell you why
>I won't post my recommendations others could use instead either
Anon I'm not touting "my" list to be flawless, just presenting the framework and listing few acclaimed mods that will enhance the overall experience. It's a "quickguide" not an in detailed step by step tutorial.
Sure "fine tuning" is needed but modding Skyrim was never hard or complicated to begin with, especially not with MO which provides you the luxury of fucking up without consequences. Mix and matching is not the issue, especially not when these mods are either compatible out of the box, are made to complement each other (COMBAT EVOLVED) or feature a compatibility patch. As you can see it's modular, optional and highly customizable. If there's something you don't like about it, don't install it. It's not restrictive like Requiem and that's the beauty of it.
>RotE is notiorus for fucking with enemy scaling and giving high-level mobs a huge amount of 1-shot kills spells.
Yes enemies can kick your ass but you're more than equipped to deal with them. ORDINATOR will make you a demigod as you progress which will make the combat against the enemies with enhanced AIs and better spells more hectic and faster. The Attack Commitment+TK DODGE also makes it fair to avoid damage in real time which is why I said it's more action focused.
>>343778963Defeat.
I picked mods to complement each other, such as more patrols and enemies in the open world combined with more followers you can recruit at once will provide huge Mount and Blade tier battles so long as your PC can handle them.
>>343779964
Now see, here's where your wrong.
You want more examples? Fine.
Action Combat and Ultimate Combat are both EXTREMELY script heavy, like most 'big' combat mods.
I'm assuming you can figure out what that means, otherwise you are wasting time.
Action Combat also uses cloak scripts which are generally unsafe and have high chances of causing safe bloat.
You want to continue to blindly defend your cause, go ahead. I've rested my case.
>>343765531
>I'm gonna cyberbully each one of you
come at me kiddie
>>343781401
Honestly I never had any issues with it nor have I encountered people that did. I implemented AC to make alternative ways of dealing with turtling enemies because they were smart and conservative with the blocking and group defending. It adding shield breaking and parrying. If you're afraid of then by all means leave it out.
Ultimate Combat is however essential. It's THE best, most stable and balanced out of the "Big Three" combat overhauls; the rest being Deadly Combat and DUEL.
Unless you're some deviant who uses SoS with Aroused Creatures + MNC and Defeat you'll be perfectly fine. Also if you're smart and avoid abominations by Apollodown and Footprints mod.
Not really a case against anything but I do appreciate your input.
Hey fags it's worth to pirate the dlcs just to play requiem or Skyre?
I just finished vanilla Skyrim and even though It's shit I want more.
>>343782924
>requiem
>Skyre
>>343770362
combat has been the same since morrowind, adding in a shield bash changes nothing
>>343782924
>Requiem
>SkyRe
Do yourself a favor and skip both. You want harder gameplay, grab Revenge of Enemies or other assorted mods.
>>343782924
Yes. Requiem makes the game fun again.
I'd get rid of armor/stamina drain though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBP9xah5jKM
What's wrong with Requiem?
>>343771045
>marrying used good
come on man, she was fucked by Molag Bal, her pussy probably has an echo
>>343785290
>not wanting to cuck the daedric prince od domination
fag
>>343785008
Basically spreading out basic skills/abilities all over the place (you need tons of skill points just to function normally), and the creator clearly knows fuck all about the lore.
>>343785423
he raped her and tossed her aside like he does with all his offerings, you're not cucking him by eating up his sloppy seconds, he's probably raping some other chick as we speak
>>343785290
What's with the jaundice eyes? Face model is nice though.
>>343785008
It's like wanting a gaming PC and then going with a prebuilt. It's barely passable and comes with tons of shit you don't want or need. If you're savvy you can get a much better experience picking out your own parts.
Proudspire Manor after console waifing the queen.
>>343785474
>the creator clearly knows fuck all about the lore
How so?
>>343782924
honestly you should just use sperg or ordinator, they're fun and lightweight
>>343785681
Why did this picture immediately make me think of baneposting?
>>343769726
NEVER SHOULD HAVE COME HERE!
>>343785696
>jaundice eyes
that's what she looks like if you cure her vampirism, that's a vanilla screenshot with no mods
except enb
>>343785290
>>343785681
DELETE THIS REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>343785929
well I'm sure if you ask Serana she'd say he was a big guy
>>343785834
>not combining both
>>343785008
Nothing. It had a bad rep in a past because of its incompatibilities and over the top installation but now it's okay.
>>343785929
You don't get to bring your hymen.
>>343770362
>>343783172
Skyrim's combat is WORSE than Morrowind's. The only thing that's improved is the animations.
>>343785008
I'm surprised Requiem doesn't making breathing require skill points.
And good luck getting mods like requiem to work well with other mods, especially quest mods.
>>343785008
It's incompatible with everything. WITH FUCKING EVERYTHING.
>>343785681
how about i just shit in that little blood altar in that one underground shrine in markath? this should prove my superiority
>>343786267
>quest mods
And mods that change the skill tree.
And mods that affect loot.
And mods that add spells.
>>343786010
I honestly don't understand people who like Serana
she was obnoxious, her manner of speaking felt completely out of place, and half of her dialogue would only show up if you were extra nice to her
I was disappointed you couldn't kill her and taker the elder scroll the first time you saw her ending the quest right away
>he doesn't played a based magicka user
>>343786267
Especially quest mods? dawg those are the easiest
>>343786559
just get the compatibility patches :^)
The house in Solitude is the best one
You can't prove me wrong
>>343786730
Yeah, but Skyrim made magic unfun with its hand shit.
>>343764329
God, this game looks so fucking ugly.
>>343768347
>>343768524
Guns don't kill; people do.
>>343786614
>her manner of speaking felt completely out of place
This. She was born before the Empire ever existed and yet she doesn't feel out of place at all?
>>343786614
>>343787002
>she's from a different time period
>why does she feel out of place
>>343786845
>Not installing the apocalypse mod
The spell that attaches to the enemies and then discharges an elecric arc on them doing more damage the farthest they are is the best shit ever
Dragons get absolutely destroyed
>>343786896
bro just overclock your GPU so you can play with an ENB at 90°C alongside DyndoLOD for distant visuals
>>343786896
>unmodded game from 5 years ago looks bad
>>343786730
I just realized I haven't played a magicka based build once in like 6+ runs of Skyrim. It's just not fun at all.
The one with the wood.NO NO wait...the other one made out of wood.Ya know next to the trees, and rocks.That one.
>>343787002
>>343787215
I meant she sounds like a valley girl from 2010, if she spoke old english or with british colloquialisms that's be fine, but she sounds like Laura Bailey does in every single game she's ever made
>>343787215
It's the fact that she doesn't at all. She never asks questions or seems curious, she seems to immediately understand culture and customs, etc.
>>343771627
Don't bother, people here have no idea how to mod Skyrim properly and all they can do is bitch about the combat, like it hasn't been garbage since Arena.
Btw your mod list is good, but could you please explain to me where is your Perkus Maximus or at least Skyrim Redone? It makes stealth gameplay fucking glorious.
Fuck I want to play Skyrim for another 600h now.
Whelp, guess I'm reinstalling Skyrim and hundreds of mods yet again just to get bored five minutes in.
>>343771627
>>343772132
>>343787948
Serious question:
If you have a lot of mods, like 100+, and if you install them properly, can you actually complete a full play-through of Skyrim without it crashing and fucking you over?
>>343788074
have fun!
save textures and enb for last so you load fast
>>343764643
Shittiest quests in the game
>Whiterun
>good
>>343770558
>skyrim is probably the most immersion breaking of all the Elder Scrolls games.
>>343788324
crashes never fuck you over
load back in
>>343788324
crashes are gonna happen no matter what you do, it's a bethesda game
but as long as you do things right you should definitely be able to play the entire game
I have about 30 mods installed and I only crash like once every 2 hours
>>343771627
>not including the Apocalypse magic mod
That mod alone makes illusion magic actually worth using.
Thanks for the list though, I'll check these out.
I also enjoy the mods that let you create a party of people and travel around, too bad it makes the game even easier than before.
>>343788391
What do you mean so I load fast? You mean for checking to make sure my installed mods don't CTD my game?
>>343787258
dragons already get destroyed by the vanilla lightning storm spell
lightning is also the best magic, nothing beats going full Sheev on your enemies
>>343788324
I have 250 mods and nothing crashes. Not to mention TES save files are unbreakable, you can add, remove, modify every script heavy mod, save over it, fuck with the .ini files, save again, it still won't break. People here are just fucking retarded and have no idea how to use a PC. Mod organizer, properly patched and merged mods, texture optimizer, extended memory allocation, save cleaners, and nothing will happen. My current save file is 650mb, 500h and it just werks.
