In today's episode: Uchi picks "Betray"
Fucking snail
>>343757000
I hate that guy.
Somebody post this "see? this is my power" image pleaes
What were his motives again?
>>343757731
C O M P L E X
WHY DO PEOPLE
Why last thread was deleted?
Still can't belive into invisible old man. It's 100% ass pull. No one even say Sean untill this fuckin moment. They're suspicions about everyone but completely okay with "blind" and "deaf" guy following them in wheelchair everywhere?
>>343757731Create a timeline where 9 espers perfected their abilities and were in his command and are willing to risk their lives to save the world
>>343757971
I want to fuck carlos
>>343757731
>>343757000
Wait a second
Would his plan work without snails?
Does that mean he mindhacked snails? Or trained them?
If it wasall the same ward, where didGab go every time he was sent into the vents? Was hemind hacked to just stay in there until the right time?
>Mira and Sean want to kill snail
FUTURE RUINED
>>343758261
You didn't read the post game files, did you?
>>343757845
There are shadows in many scenes, Q is never referred to as a child, Q's X-passes reference his eyes and age, and no one ever says there's only 9 people in the shelter.
>>343758261
HE HAS A NICE RUG TO SIT ON
>>343758253
it's perfect
>not using this for the OP
>be simple wannabe world savior
>your woman kills majority of world population because she's a qt
>your son does everything so world can stay this way
>basically every time shit hits the fan, it happens because you knocked up a redhead
life is simply unfair
>>343758253
Seansteel edit when
>>343758325
>>343758451
>instant doubt, i bet it's not there
>get vita, check through files
>
>fuck
Fuck.
Mira and Eric shifting at the end was the dumbest part of the whole game
THREADLY REMINDER
>>343757812
BULLSHIT EACH OTHER?
>>343758572His son crafted the timeline where the Dcom team had the desire and willpower to seek out the terrorist who'd kill 8 billion.
>dat Back to the Future reference
Instead of shifting to a timeline where they won the coin toss, why didn't they shift to before that when they met each other at dcom? Delta's stupid bullshit would've still been there
>>343759182
>Now it's like that movie about time traveling car.
>Back to the Future?
>NO NOT THAT ONE
>>343759248
Because whole story is retarded and characters actions in this game are the worst from the whole trilogy.
Returning characters were there to stop the virus and brother, yet they done fucking nothing, 90% of the time acted like they had no fucking idea why they are here. Akana is the worst example
>my master plan is to act clueless and sperg out everytime something happen to Junpei
>>343759085
>that annotation
>>343758749
Who is worse characters?
>Retarded Akane and Jumpei
or
>psycho killers Eric and Mira
?
>>343759470
>you'll never play as Gab
The final dialogue where Zero tells the teamthat they haven't got shit on him and despite the fact that they went in with the desire to stop Radical-6 it was Zero who crafted the timeline that will save humanityis fucking top tier.
Pic related
What was the first "OHH SHIT" moment for you lads?
Pic related was mine. I literally fell for those body parts being fakes.
>>343759902
This was the first puzzle room I got to.
Good start.
>>343759902
>dat half head in the corner
A subtle spook.
>>343759902
>I only just realised those body parts weren't fake.
Oh shit.
>That one hand frozen into a fist.
>>343759902
How did Mira kill Junpei?
>tfw
>>343760014
Chainsaw
So did anyone else really enjoy this game?
>>343759489
retarded akane and junpei
junpei was only good the one time he flirted with carlos
>>343759902
I made to this room late and plot twist was already spoilered to me because in other fragment Carlos saw this head.
Fragments system was shitty desu
>>343760062
>thanks guys for the effort so we were able to fuck this game because of appealing to the new crowd
>>343760014
Why this bitch and Eric got happy end?
>Mira is serial killer
>Eric is psycho who can kill little kids and woman without any problems and feeling of guilt
>>343758115
I'd rather seek a way into her vagina with my penis if you know what I mean
>>343760180
A bit rushed near the end but I enjoyed the closure
>>343760180
I enjoyed it a lot
>>343760294
Aren't you happy? You created a future where ZTD exists!
>>343758572
The world would be fine if Sigma didn't try to disarm the bomb.
>>343760349
Meanwhile Carlos is in the forever alone hell.
Life is unfair.
>>343760062
>tfw ZTD is worst game in trilogy
R11 = VLR > 999 > E17 > ZTD > N7
>>343760494
He's not forever alone, he's with his sister
>>343760494
He don't need pussy to validate his self worth.
He is the man who just get the shit done.
>>343760180
Enjoyed everything except ending
>>343759489
How was Junpei ever retarded? Akane sure, but Junpei decisions made plenty of sense; besides THE FUCK.
>>343760535
>sister
That's not a loli.
Life is unfair.
>>343760210
Screenshots or it didn't happen
>>343759902
>Eric is asking me who Zero is
>maybe Delta grew up to be evil? I'll put his name in
>oh god what's happening?
>>343760521
>not putting ever17 above everything else
>999 above ever17
nice baito
>>343760180
It was great, but it felt too short and small compared to VLR. Twists were good, but nothing mindshattering. Delta always being there was more "Wait. What. Really?!" moment than a moment like K's helmet coming off to reveal yourself, which was crazy. I think Uchi wanted to make a bigger game, but couldn't. So I'm okay with the result.
>>343758902
Give it a rest mate. Stop shitposting up the threads with your salty tears about things that were never gonna be answered.
>>343760521
VLR > Ever17 > ZTD > 999 > R11 > N7
I'll marry Carlos!
>>343760803
What so good about E17 except true route and can? It was your first VN? Piyoooo?
>>343760349
>read the epilogue file for Q Team>Mira is cured of being a psychopath through the power of love
>Eric and her are engaged and in true love now
>Sean fucking smashes through the prison to free her, and they plan to SHIFT backwards to prevent Mira from becoming a serial killer
>even if it means unraveling the whole fucking game because Mira is basically the source of all the calamity that occurs due to killing Eric's mother
>mfw
>>343760935
>he is baiting because he expected the game to be a closure to every plotline like we were promissed
Yeah, based Uchi or something
>>343761202
should have killed the snail
you can't be arrested for snail genocide
How can other ZE girls even compete?
>>343756789
how to play vlr without a 3ds
>>343761334
Play it on Vita
>>343761334
Vita or wait for the steam release
>>343761285
How would they be able to find a single snail? They need to unleash Radical 6 for that sweet 75% chance of killing it.
>>343761308
Boss Phi can.
>>343761438
I'm not taking any chances, let's nuke the world to get rid of snails.
>>343761285
Why is this even a snail fault?
Maybe he was going this route because the other one was blocked by the rock that was throwed by some kid who was throwing rocks because his dad was too poor to buy him a toy, and his dad was poor because....
This whole thing got out of hand, really
>>343761438
>Delta knows about snail
>still kill everyone
>>343761620
He needs to be born first.
>>343761202
They will just create another timeline. Or better saying, they already did, how can Uchi expect that we hype something that will use the same trope for the 999th time?
>>343761716
keked hard
>avoid /v/ for 3 weeks leading up the game's launch and while playing through the game
>tfw come back to this
>>343761587
Life is simply unfair...don't you think?
>>343761691
But this is paradox
>>343757793
G L O B A L
>>343761274
>we were promised
>>343760483
But innocent lives will die if he didn't try to!
Would she survive as a participant?
>>343759853
I need a Delta edit for this, this perfectly describes his smugness.
>>343761492
>short red hair that's dyed an unnatural color
>glasses
>dry snarky personality
>constantly accuses Sigma of sexual harassment and whines about how logical decisions might make others feel bad
Phi is literally Tumblr.
>>343759419
Read the prologue, retard.
>>343762039
K A N G S
>>343760180
same as >>343760564, everything was fun until the ending
>>343760808
>it felt too short and small compared to VLR
Is it? I think my VLR playtime was also 20-22 hours.
>>343760180
I'm satisfied. Game has issues (little original music, don't think the "cinematic" approach was better than the traditional VN format, fragment structure is still a bit fucked even with the plotwists justifying it, etc.) and you can tell the game was rushed/didn't include everything Uchi wanted to put in. Having said that, if 999 and VLR are 10/10s or 9/10s, ZTD is a solid 8/10. For the final game capping off a trilogy, they could have fucked it up significantly worse.
>>343761816
>n Uchi expect that we hype something that will use the same trope for the 999th time?
Uchi should use all tropes from R11 instead of invisible old man with complex motives, magic aliens, x-mens and power of friendship.
Baby colic > everything in ZTD
I've seen a lot of discussion put into this game regarding a lack of understanding for the twist and how certain things pan out with the transporter or why characters do certain things that they do, but personally, I'm more of a big picture kind of guy that can forgive plotholes here and there if they don't majorly get in the way of things. That being said, besides the little details that may bother, I'm more annoyed by a lot of the creative decisions that were made with this game, especially considering that this was supposed to be the final entry that wraps everything up, so I'm just gonna go through some things point by point that bothered me quite a bit once the game was over, since I honestly don't even know what specifically to focus on.
Diana, Phi and Sigma being a part of the game makes a lot of sense because they factor into the story a lot, not just in this game individually but also linking directly from the last game. Junpei and Akane feel a little out of place overall, I know that they also tie into VLR, but that sort of feels like the ONLY reason they're in the game, because besides actually tying their plots from this game to the next one, nothing much else happens with them plotwise regarding anything necessary to their pasts or character connections. Then you get to the rest of the cast with Carlos, Sean, Mira and Eric, and their inclusions come off as mostly unnecessary in the grand scheme of things, and that the only reason they were included is so that they could round out the number of participants to 9, just because that's how it was in the other games, because once you learn the basic backstory of these characters no other kind of interesting revelations or character developments happen, and really, you could have removed or changed any of them to help tie things into the plot better in relation to either any of the other participants or zero.
>Mira is a virgin
>Diana is a slut
I honestly didn't see that coming.
>>343762597
The main twist of the game also doesn't stack up to the twists of the last two games, from either a logical or emotional perspective. In the first game, you spend the entire game asking yourself a few specific questions, like "Why was I kidnapped and put through this" and "Who is Zero?" and ultimately, everything built up to answering and resolving these questions, same with the sequel, but with ZTD these questions almost come off as less important or less pertinent due to the way that everyone volunteered to be a part of the experiment, and the "Who is Zero?" question is given less room to work with since you know that it's not going to be one of the on screen characters, because you straight up see Zero walk up to everyone at the start for the coin flip, so by the time you see who Zero actually is, it's no where near as shocking as finding out who Zero was in the previous two games.
In the first two games, you were dumped into a situation where you're a (Seemingly) normal person with a variety of other characters, which over time you slowly come to converse with and understand over the course of the game, in ZTD, all of the characters are split into teams of 3, and only ever stay with their respective team members for the course of the game, which unlike the first two games, means you get a lot of redundancy in terms of characterization for the different situations the characters find themselves in, instead of having the characters constantly split apart with different team members for different conflicts or information. I would have actually forgiven this system if something interesting had been done with it involving how your perspective of time and space was being played with, but ultimately everything was pretty much how it seemed to be with the exception of the needless ward twist.
>>343762661
The Fragment system is an interesting idea that could have interesting applications for a story like this, but not only doesn't justify it's own existence by the end, but creates problems the series didn't have before this point. The game starts off on a similar note of being trapped in a mysterious environment by a crazed killer and being forced to play a game to escape, but unlike the other games in the series, falls into a massive repeating pattern due to the memory erasing drugs essentially meaning that almost every fragment has to begin under the assumption that it could have been the first one you picked, meaning that consistent character development doesn't start until about the 2/3 mark of the game when they finally start shifting through the timelines, since they can finally start retaining memories, and don't need to explain their pasts again to the other characters.
This isn't even so much a criticism about the game itself and more a problem with the fact that this is third game we've encountered these things in. In the first game, it was a genuine mystery as to what was happening, because it was the first game in the series, and wasn't building off any of kind of established plot. You wake up on a sinking ship, you all have bombs placed inside your chests, and overall there's this kind of oppresive, sickening feeling in the air of the entire game, as it feels like death has weight and there are actual horrible things happening. The second game tones down the oppressive atmosphere and instead focuses more on the mystery of the situation and characters, which I was totally fine with, personally.
Blick-Winkel here, don't forget the ZTD stream starts next Friday at the usual time.
hitbox / blick-winkel
>>343762597
I think Mira and Eric are just there to introduce an element of threat. A game with nine Luna's wouldn't be very scary.
So, what parts were ripped off from Ever17 this time? What comes to mind for me is:
>awkwardly shoehorned inexpressive dog companion (Coco's dog/Gab)
>characters stuck in shelter eating bland rations, resulting in one of them eventually freaking out at the tedium and eating the same food every day (Kid/Diana)
And of course, the SHIFT shenanigans at the end are a given.
>>343762742
The problem with ZTD is that it simultaneously wants to recreate the oppressive atmosphere of the first game, while also recreated the sense of mystery from the second game, the problem is that at this point, we know that death doesn't hold much meaning anymore, so the death scenes where they either try to make you feel sad at a characters death, or make you feel sickened with the way they die, don't hold much weight. On the other end of the coin, because we're all so used to crazy twists at this point, the entire game is also spent trying to theorycraft who the killer is/what the killers motivation is/what the twist is, and no matter what any of those things wound up being, would never match up to what anyone else would have come up with, and in general would never be as shocking, since everyone is going into the game expecting a crazy twist at this point.
Another issue I found myself not liking was the overuse of Blue Bird Lamentation. I understand that perhaps there were budgetary concerns and maybe they couldn't have as much music as they would have liked to work with, but a song that was used to such emotional power as that one in VLR being used anytime anything happened with D-Team really sucked away any kind of emotional value it would have had, although I guess this point is probably open to personal opinion.
Also Aliens, but I really feel like I don't even need to go into detail about why that plot device doesn't work.
Sorry, I just beat the game and needed to vent my feelings
>>343757845
The other teams knew Q for five days at DCOM, and I agree that Sigma, Phi and Akane should have been suspicious.
However, remember that for the majority of the time, Q was only with Q team. Meaning C and D had no idea Sean even existed until the latter parts of the game.
Maria was not suspicious since she was conspiring with Q.
Eric is definitely suspicious and it showa in his actions.
>>343760742
here you go
>>343762597
How does Akane feel out of place? Her entire motivation in VLR stems from what happened in ZTD. And Junpei comes because of Akane. Carlos makes sense because he's a potential SHIFTer. Sean has connections to Zero. Mira for that wildcard factor, and Eric cause he's an obsessed loser.
>>343762838
>Another issue I found myself not liking was the overuse of Blue Bird Lamentation. I understand that perhaps there were budgetary concerns and maybe they couldn't have as much music as they would have liked to work with, but a song that was used to such emotional power as that one in VLR being used anytime anything happened with D-Team really sucked away any kind of emotional value it would have had, although I guess this point is probably open to personal opinion.
Agreed. It's the same problem that MGS has with the MGS3 salute: Fucking fantastic the first time around, arguably the best moment in the entire series. In almost every substantial game they milk it.
>>343762838
agree 100%
>>343762439
Damn, you're fast. Mine was somewhere between 30 and 35 hours. This game was 18 hours for me. So you can see why I thought it felt short.
>>343762173
Fuck off back to your shitty D4 wannabe game
>Akane, Sigma and Phi concoct an absurd 45 year long plan to create a timeline where they stop Free the Soul and Radical6 is never released
>Carlos creates that timeline in a coin toss
>Junpei and Seven destroy FtS' HQ by coincidence off screen
Akane, Digma and Phi are fucking useless
>>343763415
but anon MY FEELS XD
>>343762439
Fucking how? Mine was like 37, I was honestly getting tired of it by the end.
>>343761308
ohhh, there are the scars
>>343758902
this hurt my feelings
>>343763470
37 hours?
It's a fucking visual novel dude. What were you doing? Puzzles are like only a third of the game.
>>343761308
>no NTR route
>no Phi x Sigma route
Wait hold up
where the fuck was Kyle?
>>343763437
This is the worst bullshit.
They set up whole VLR so they can get into Mars Station and do fucking nothing.
But you can see that the story was changed and they only mentioned Kyle and Left once, and they were suppose to play a big role in third game.
>>343763410
>>343763470
I think it's the puzzle. I didn't really care about them so much so I mostly use easy mode and looked it up online.
>>343763601Rhizome 9.:3
>>343761961
Have you even played 999?
>>343763601
Dropped so the new audience is not confused
I did VLR in 55 hours
>>343763563
VLR was long as fuck dude. I've seen several people play it, and they've all been at least 30 hours.
>>343763652
That makes more sense then.
You now have the power to change the participants of the Decision Game.
Which six characters do you add? (Sigma, Phi, and Diana must fill 3 slots according to VLR.)
1: Sigma
2: Phi
3: Diana
4:
5:
6:
7:
8:
9:
finished it now. the beginning was great, then it slowed down, mid to late game was again pretty good, i didn't like the ending. I have questions1. where the fuck is kyle, is he the dog
2. how did mira kill junpei
3. delta was only in q's team right?
4. when did mira and loveboi learned robot's name is sean? i think they call him sean in another timeline, where sean didn't learn he is sean yet. although i'll accept he told them after he learned it from another timeline. still retarted tho.
5. what was the deal with transporter room weird puzzle thing that i haven't solved. something like a card reader that laughs. there was another puzzle-like thing in another room that i skipped if i remember correctly
The problem with the twist isn't that it doesn't work, it's that the game has to pull so much contrived, convenient bullshit for it to work. Just dropping some shadows here and there doesn't get around the absurd movements you have to assume a crippled, blind old fucko is making in-between scenes to hide himself from the camera for seemingly no reason besides to hide the twist. The fact that Q-team knows Sean's name yet NEVER refers to him by it a single time before the reveal is also another example of how far you have to reach to make this dumb shit work.
Wait a fucking second.
In the apocalypse ending, when Sigma loses both arms he's like "OH WELL I guess I'll spend the next 45 years working on the next nonary game to train my old self to SHIFT".
But why? Why not just SHIFT by himself?
>>343763624
I'd be more critical of this normally, but honestly the fact the game even came out is a big deal. I can deal with a few dropped plot strings.
>>343763563
Actually 42:25 according to my 3DS. I got stuck on a lot of puzzles though so I guess I'm retarded.
>It's a fucking visual novel dude.
Visual novels can be long though (see Clannad)
>>343763652
well that explains it
DLC
999 - absolute ludography
VLR - video game
ZTD - app
>>343763857
This
>>343763078
I guess what my issue boils down to is that the characters have a sliding scale of importance, where you have characters that are important to the plot (Sigma, Diana, Phi) either for what they do in this game or for what they do in the next game, but having characters that are only there to create conflict with other character like Mira or Eric feels kind of weak for what is supposedly the final entry in the series, and like you said, Junpei is there not because he actually has anything to do, but just because Akane is there, which I think is a disservice to his character. I also really don't feel like Akane needed to be there for the next game to take place, unless there's something in particular I'm forgetting about VLR that suggested she took place in the ZTD experiment?
>>343763749
Dio, Uchikoshi, 9th Man, Snail, 1905 Phi, All-ice (not Alice you baka), Funyarinpa
>>343763802
Because of complex motives
>>343762838
I, too, was disappointed in blue bird lamentation's overuse.
>>343763793
1. his plotline was dropped
2. Delta basically let Mira walk around and kill people if she wanted to.
3. Delta was Q, so yes.
4. Don't remember.
5. Cards = numbers. It wasn't hard.
>>343763793
1. MIA
2. She wasn't injected with sleeping drugs
3. I think so, but he had cameras
4. He told it himself
5. Math
>>343761390
It was released on Steam since June 30
Why couldn't Delta just pick the snail up from the path?
>>343763875
fuck off don't start this shit here
>>343763749
Luna
Clover
Snake
Future Clover
Alice
Mira
>>343764048
VLR dumbass. The steam release is coming but not for a while.
>>343764048
VLR, anon.
>>343764095
His motivations are complex
>>343764095
Snails are gross man.
>>343764067
>Mira not in Alice tier
>>343763563
>one third of the game: doing the puzzles
>second third of the game: reading the visual novel
>last third of the game: watching a blinking dot move on the map and doors opening and closing
>>343764095
Because he needed to recreate the nunnery game (Except with ten people this time) in order to create two timelines, one where a virus was released to see if he could beat the odds and infect an isis terrorist with a suicide virus to stop the world from exploding and to also create a timeline where the world isn't infected but instead has 6 psychic warriors who now have the motivation to stop the world from exploding
>>343764067
Someone actually suggested that Alice was not the worst character in the series last thread. She is fucking awful.
>>343764172
Because Mira is not as bad as alice.
>>343764095
Molluscophobia.
>>343764095
Why would he? He needed the snail to be there in order to complete his goals
>>343764095
He don't know this snail.
He tried killing 75% of snails but his plan failed, this snail was in the remaining 25%
>>343763749
Carlos
Junpei so he can flirt with Carlos
I don't care about the rest, but I guess Akane can't be there because she'll distract Junpei
>>343764067
This is a pretty awful list.
>Eric
>Likeable
It's clear that whoever made this list isn't likeable.
>>343764172
>implying mira is as bad as alice
>implying anything is as bad as alice
>>343764298
COMEPLELX
>>343759902
You would think Akane would recognize his body parts, at least his torso
>>343764067
>muh Akane
>high tier
>>343764135
that snake is a euphemism isn't it
>>343764471
It's called denial
>>343764471
You'd think she would recognize his crotch.
Is Delta the new Skullface?
MFW everyone who criticizes the game adds "But I liked Carlos" at the end
>>343763809
actually, that's a good point. I'll whine less now.
>>343763995
>>343764035
so you are supposed to use that puzzle to figure out which card is which number? i just figured them out on my on.
>>343764423
Eric is great fuck you
>>343764552
No, because Delta actually did shit in this game
>>343764607
Yeah, it gave you plenty of hints.
>>343764552
A giant cartoon of a villain who manages to make the best character look like a giant retard? Yes. ZTD should have just been Carlos vs Akane and Junpei
The story was crap, but it was worth playing it just for the ring and hug scene. After 999 and VLR, it was nice seeing mad max and time goddess getting some sweet time with each other
>make a game filled with possible deaths and horror
>kidnap nine innocent people
>force them to play and die in several histories
>do it so you can live
>akane does it and it's ok
>delta does it and he's a monster
At least Delta didn't blow anyone up. I was really mad that the whole "this Zero must have known what happened last year!" amounted to nothing whatsoever. Delta should have called out Junpei and Akane on their hypocrisy.
>>343764423
Eric is one of better written characters of the series
>>343762610
>>343764607
Well, you can either bruteforce mindlessly or try to figure it out yourself
>>343764634
As great as you are, undoubtedly.
>>343764559
Carlos was designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator so he did his job well.
>>343764634
Eric is awful psycho. But I liked Carlos because he's hot boy and siscon
is this the phase where only fanboys are left and any criticism no matter how valid is seen as "shitposting" or being "haters" ?
>>343764746
You can't be serious.
>Delta somehow knew Mira was going to kill Junpei
>He somehow knew that Mira wasn't going to take his heart
>He somehow knew she'd cut him up into pieces so he could use that in his very specific puzzle
???
Why Carlos sister had a disease working exactly like Radical-6 and this was NOT important to the main plot in any way?
Why even add this? Why not just some random sickness?
>>343764804
I'd say no, considering how most of everyone criticizes the game.
What's up with people shitting on Junpei's English VA? He was one of the best guys on the cast and portrayed Punished Junpei to a fucking tee.
>>343764741
>At least Delta didn't blow anyone up.
>The button
>The manufacturing lab
>The reactor
>The Force Quit box
>>343764804
Nope. We all agree that the game is a disappointment.
>>343764804
Yes you must be glad that you were able to pay full price for the botchered game because based uchi
>>343764862
>working exactly like Radical-6
What? I thought it worked completely differently.
>>343764804
I'm seeing productive discussion and criticism. The fuck are you on about?
>>343756789
I think i've got stuck, all that is left for me to do (I still have quite the number of fragments in ?) is to
Press the acid rain button on each team, will that unlock something? or is it just for laughs?
>>343764862
Carlos's sister was a shifter (I think Akane is the one who figures it out) which explains the visions. Did you even finish the game?
>>343764895
His voice was so inconsistent.
>>343764895
English VAs were generally great
I pity the people who didn't get THE FUCK?
S-so the 3DS version is selling the best right?
>>343764862
Maria's disease doesn't work like Radical-6. Maria couldn't control her ability to access the morphogenetic field and basically overloaded on information and shutdown.
Radical-6 slows brain function and makes the person intensely suicidal, they are nothing alike.
>>343764746
I was waiting the entire game for something to happen with Eric, like either he turns his act around and realizes what kind of person he is and then does something heroic, or you find out it was all an act and he was behind part of the plot, or that there was SOMETHING up with his character and his reason for being alongside these other, far more important characters, but no, he stays a pathetic shithead the entire game
I mean granted his entire family died and he was forced to hide his brothers body and he was beaten and raped by his dad but STILL
>>343765019
which visions?
>>343763749
carlos
mira
eric
junpei
a second carlos
>>343764914
He means in the good end.
Good end of 999 still involves 9th man, not-Snake and the Ace all dying.
>>343764804
>any criticism no matter how valid is seen as "shitposting" or being "haters"
Point where this is happening?
>>343765085
I got it on 3DS so I could play it outside, but fuck I regret it
It's genuinely broken and if I leave it on and shut my 3DS half the time it fucking crashes the console
>>343765076
They were alright until they had to show any kind of emotion/yell/scream. Literally had to mute it everytime out of embarrassment.
>>343764804
You're an idiot.
>I hated the complex well written character filled with horrible and realistic crippling issues, insecurities, repressed memories and flaws
>I liked the perfect ripped tall handsome xman firefighter with a good heart and no issues whatsoever
You people are the cancer that keeps storytelling in games lowbrow.
Carlos was pathetic
>>343765085
I wouldn't care if it sold the best on excrementbox as long as I can play it on a platform that I own that's all I care about
>not killing all normal humans and creating new world order fo SHIFTers only
>>343765162
Ace doesn't die in the true end.
>>343765162
well, in this one mira lives so it's kinda equal
>>343765151
The doctor at the hospital says his sister is constantly dreaming and this turns out to be her just hopping between realities uncontrollably. Like I said, it's explained in the last couple hours. I'm not at my computer so I can't prove it right now.
>>343765217
In a cast full of retards, it's nice to see someone with their shit together
>>343765174
>>343765203
I just came into the thread, calm down faggots.
>>343765217
nice meme
>>343765217
>I hated the complex well written character filled with horrible and realistic crippling issues, insecurities, repressed memories and flaws
C O M P L E X
>>343765295
this desu senpai
>>343765217
>no issues
>siscon
>probably gay
>>343765162
Oh, then that anon is right. Akane had three people die in the perfect timeline, which makes her position worse than Delta's.
>>343765378
he's gay for his sister.
>>343765217
>shitting on carlos
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Acta est fabula, plaudite!
>Acta est fabula, plaudite!
Acta est fabula, plaudite!
>Acta est fabula, plaudite!
Let the series die you fucks
>>343765217
>complex well written character
let's not kid ourselves now
Finished the game last night. Liked it but thought it was alright. Probably worst in the series.
Wake up to come here and read stuff finally and see that there are post game files and holy shit do they really tie everything together. The stuff with Sigma and Diana almost made me fucking cry.
>>343765246
He never got a fucking thank you. This is just after he gives his life to save Akane. He did just as much work as Junpei did.
Damn right he will be the best man at the wedding.
>>343764828
I don't find him likeable, but I still like how you could see he was turning into his father by doing things to Sean like his father did to him and his brother.
>Akane wasn't Machiavellian in this game at all
>She's a retard who goes full Clover
And the worst part is that the game's writing -acts- like she is Machiavellian, by having her say I WILL DO ANYTHING TO ACHIEVE MY GOALS
>>343765494
did you read the stuff in the booklet too? it's worth it
>>343764895
I liked him. And not just because he sounded a little queer.
>His name is sean and has never been called anything other than that in the underground shelter
Is that true? I don't remember anyone calling him sean until the reveal obviously.
>>343765304
That wasn't a hostile request bro.
>>343765494
>Wake up to come here and read stuff finally and see that there are post game files and holy shit do they really tie everything together. The stuff with Sigma and Diana almost made me fucking cry.
They all should have been epilogue scenes (except the Mira one, that one is fan fiction-tier garbage).
Anyone weirded out by how Mira got zero comeuppance throughout the entire game including the ending? She even fucking marries Eric in the real ending, and I guess that's.. okay? She's still a psychopathic serial killer but somehow at some point no-one cares any more.
>>343765293
Yeah i know them. Let me rephrase my question. Which visions were related to the story at all? Carlos was a shifter before the game, Akane also figures this out. Carlos hears her voice once in the game, but it does nothing. Her sister having that disease was unnecessary.
>Mira gets a happy end when she's worse than Ace
>>343765598
>Is that true?
Yes. It was ass pull.
>>343765564
Well she's certainly two-faced.
>>343765685
Ace doesn't even get an ending, last we've seen of him was the end of 999 where he was stuck in the car trunk.
>>343765675
She got cured by the power of love and friendship
>>343765195
Fuck that, Sigma's cool exterior shattering when he finally reached out and hugged Diana had me in tears.
>>343765675
Eric marrying Mira in the end was fucking hilarious and suits his character. The shit with Sean punching a hole through the wall and breaking her out a prison to get to the teleporter is fucking awful though.
>>343765812
All she had to do is show a little heart?
>>343765085
>mfw I'm still waiting on my Amazon pre-order
>>343765598
he was never referred to sean in any of the dialogue that WE saw
he was called that outside of that
yes it is a bit stupid but whatever
>>343765680
His sister being in the hospital was just a sob story for Carlos to tell. It's not the characters fault, obviously, but the writers'.
>>343765639
Mira just wants to experience killing Eric's mom again. That's my head canon
I liked how Phi really wasn't all that important/mysterious etc. Ever since VLR she gave off a that vibe, but she really is just a normal girl no different than any of the others who can shift.
>>343765675
It's okay when Eric shoot all people.
It's okay when Mira kills everyone for fun.
They have traumatic past!
>>343765556
>not related to the cast/plot
>sister isn't even sick
>forced to be the leader
>forgot in the VLR ending
>saves them and doesn't even get a thank you
Carlos is Delta's way of telling us that life is simply unfair.
