Does /v/ like Fallout 2 as much as it likes New Vegas?
>>343744859
I like it FAR more than NV, or any of the 3D games.
>>343744859
I like it more. NV is a close second though
Fallout 2 is near perfect.
2 is unplayable
>>343744859
>Does /v/ like Fallout 2 as much as it likes New Vegas?
No.NV is garbage and even F3 is better than it.
>>343744938
why? nostalgia? combat isn't any better.
>>343744859
Aside from some of its reckless memery, I love it.
>>343745202
funny. I played it before.
I prefer NV and 1. The writing was terrible in that game.
>>343745351
Fuck off Todd.
>>343745408
>caring about combat in an RPG
>>343745665
I liked the concept of being a wasteland native rather than an outsider to the culture from a vault so NV and 2 were right up my alley. I don't wanna be some clueless schmuck.
I prefer Fallout 1 but 2 is also pretty good.
>>343745198
>>343745202
i'm getting mixed messages here
>>343744859
Where's the brown filter?
I thought this was supposed to be a Fallout game.
>>343745951
what should I be caring about? the generic "roll your own" story that goes nowhere? the ugly dated (even for the time) graphics? the forgettable "music"? (or lack thereof)
2 > 1 > NV > power gap > 4 > 3
>>343746397
>dated (even for the time) graphics
>>343744859
1 is way better
Also what are some good games similar to old fallout that also perhaps have active time battle combat like the FF games?
>>343746549
underrail? underrail.
>>343744859
>as much as it likes New Vegas
You mean, the same 10 retards who circlejerk about it all the time?
i used to prefer fallout 2 because you could just run down and get power armor and screw around endlessly and cheese most of the game. fallout 1 has better pacing and a better story. it was pretty intense for me counting down the days.
>>343746669
>every thread has around 90 IP almost every time
>only 10 retards
>>343746669
it was pretty great
No it ruined the franchise, 1 was brilliant then avellone came in with his borderlands memes and superficial political droning.
>>343746467
they were.
>>343746549
how is one better?
>ATB
why would you want that? ATB is horrendous.
Worst tutorial ever
>>343747098
Should have just said they're shit instead of "dated for the time" and you might have gotten some replies.
1 > NV > 2 >>>>>>> 3
haven't played 4 yet and never cared much for the spinoffs
>>343747196
how are they not? thief looks better than this.
tactics is my favorite.
1>3>2>NV
Anything else is neo-v crap where they started the series at NV.
>>343747490
>3 higher than anything
Why?
>>343747490
You're in no position to judge anything with that terrible taste buddy.
>Get addicted to Jet after one hit like it's Reefer Madness
>Constantly suffering from Withdrawal, literally murder a doctor to get more Jet
>Look up if there's a cure
>There is if you do a quest line in San Fran
>I'm only Level 8
>>343746616
Looks shit and I heard it's SJW. Not playing it.
>>343747098
Two bugged on me really bad and I couldn't finish it even though I got to the end more a less. I also just was liking 1 more pretty much for awhile while playing 2. 2 seemed to get overly obnoxious with the dialogue. Also the combat for these games is nothing special anon. I felt it could have benefited a lot from being ATB or even having a complete overhaul. There's potential in the combat system as is but it needs a ton of work because it's shit desu.
>>343747490
series started with 3
>>343747630
>Looks shit and I heard it's SJW
You're wrong, and a gullible moron. If you enjoy exploration it's the game for you.
>>343747607
I did the same thing, and turned to the slavers guild hoping to make some caps. Jet, not even once.
>>343747864
No it looks too shit. I don't need to play a game to know it doesn't appeal to me. I want something that looks better like Shadowrun which has a legit licensing behind it.
>>343746128
But you are a clueless schmuck in fallout 2.
Hell, the elder even tells you what money is at the start of the game.
>>343747875
No you didnt you faggot, caps are dead easy to come by, as is jet, the withdrawal penalty isnt even that severe. You were just trying to 'make a story' like the pathetic loner you are.
Play the fucking game dont meme characters.
>>343748074
(You)
>>343748074
>Caps
>Fallout 2
Do us a favor and pull your helmet straps so tight you can't see the keyboard anymore
>>343747979
Who the fuck cares how it looks if it plays alright? The old Fallouts are an eyesore and I replay them every two years.
Wow didn't know bethesda made prequels to Fallout 3!
Are they as good?
>>343748061
Which was weird because, and it's been a while since I've played so I don't remember it that much, doesn't your character basically get a handle on things super quickly?
>>343748215
Unless you're less than 3 INT your character turns into a sarcastic quip machine by the time you leave Klamath
>>343746128
It didn't really work because your village was just as secluded from the rest of the world as Vault was.
You were still an alien at the beginning.
>>343748169
No the graphics are bad and it doesn't even play like Call of Duty.
>>343747607
There's a cure in Vault City too. Just get access to the vault, smuggle jet to the doctor and get your cure.
>>343748136
Aren't they caps though? Just flattened unlike FO1's plain caps.
>>343748523
it's just paper money
>>343748586
Minted coins backed up by gold. Paper bills was only introduced by Tactics for BoS.
I think New Vegas is best in franchise, but still it doesn't have that unique atmosphere of classical Fallout's. I miss their interactivity (for example, ability to use skills on every object, use explosives to blow up doors etc).
Also,I really like color pallette of first two games.
Fallout 2 was awesome.
Fallout 1 however, whilst good, is also kinda shit.
>>343748523
Well they're still called caps, but in 2 thats just short for capital bills.
>>343748823
> how to spot a redditor
>>343748701
NCR later introduced paper bills after the BoS blew up their gold caches.
>>343744859
It's fucking great man.
I wish it was more balanced, but its' definitely a fucking riot.
>>343748823
>>343748915
Dude, Fallout 1 was like 4 hours long and had bugs out the ass.
As I say it was good, but it's not exactly the best part of the franchise.
>played through the entirety of 1 without knowing how to use VATS or reload without entering the menu
Don't be me /v/
>>343744859
Fallout 2 might be "90's pop culture references : The Game" but it was still fun as shit.
Never managed to do a complete run, always got game ruining glitches that scraped my savefiles.
>>343749051
>reload without entering the menu
It blew my mind how much easier it makes the gamein 2015
>>343749042
Fuck off nigger, I doubt you remember the times when Fallout 1 was released and you had to go to local library and get updates on fuckingfloppies, at that time it was a buggy mess. But it really went a long way in terms of getting fixed.
Hell yeah I love Fallout 2.
I've started a new game recently for the first time in like 5 years and just got up to Vault 13 again.
Got Sulik, MY GODDAMN WIFE! and Cassidy in my party.
Pretty fun shit. Playing with the content renewal patch or whatever. Only thing I don't like is Cassidy's talking head - specifically his voice it's pretty bad.
Anyone else doing a playthrough right now?
>>343748823
What the hell you on about buddy?
The Master is the best villain hands down in the series. 1 ain't 'kinda shit' at all
>>343749042
2 was about 6 hours long considering heading south to san Francisco happens in 2 hours to most players of open world games who head to the far side of the map straight away like i did.
But then it also lost all the atmosphere of the first in exchange for memes.
>>343749169
I don't because when Fallout 1 actually came out I wasn't even born.
>But it really went a long way in terms of getting fixed.
Lad, it's been almost 20 years and there's still random quests that go nowhere either because of bugs or they just never got finished.
>>343744859
no. it goes
1>NV>2=Tactics>4>3>>>BoS
>>343749321
I agree.
But, you can't deny there's a lot of shitty parts in the game.
>>343749370
Point stands, its in playable state now for sure. A few loose quests don't really matter.
>HD remake of Fallout 1 & 2
>isometric remake of Fallout: New Vegas
would you dl?
The next game should be set in China. Walking through an untouched Forbidden City, katana in hand, hacking apart super mutants and ghouls in VATS, imagine. You could even get cool weapons from the other side of the war, considering outside of Fallout 3 we only see basic assault rifles and pistols.
>>343749170
Aye. I've decided to force myself to play something that doesn't start with small guns for once and am doing an unarmed playthrough. Already starting to regret that though as it gets a little dull not being able to use different weapons. Might switch to big guns when I can but my 2 perception might fuck me.
Sulik has just died after my assault on Metzger. Might keep him dead instead of reloading.
>>343749430
Incorrect
1>2>NV>Tactics>BoS>4>FOnline>Russian modifications of FOnline>>pile of stinking shit>"fallout" 3
>>343749519
Setting Fallout outside of the west coast was a mistake.
>>343744859
Only vocal minority here loves Vegas and they love to shit all over everything that is made by Bethesda.
>>343745408
The combat IS better you fucking retard. NV's combat requires absolutely 0 thought, even 1-2's braindead AP management is above and beyond the garbage brainless trash that's NV's combat. The games also don't waste your fucking time with one of the most poorly put together open worlds I have ever witnessed in an RPG.
>>343749519
>china
>katana
>super mutants
fuck off.
>>343749598
>vocal minority
I agree with this man
>>343749598
But 3&4 are objective shit.
>>343749519
dude that sounds EPIC! FOR THE WIN
>>343749686
This.
Any word about Obsidian making their own game?
>>343749628
>implying fallout combat requires thought and doesn't devolve into targeting eyes over and over
>>343749170
OP here, I'm actually on my first (blind) playthrough
Just to be sure, what is the order I should be visiting towns in? I just went Arroyo -> Klamath -> Den -> Vault City/Gecko -> Den again (to get the car) and now I'm in Redding on my way to Vault 13. Did I miss anything? The travel time from one location to another is so long it leaves little room for error if you want to go exploring
>>343749519
no, japan.
>>343749774
There is no time limit. Travel as much as you want.
>>343749334
>>343749042
>4 and 6 hours long
Did we play the same games?
>>343749686
to be fair, 4 is a very enjoyable game, you just have to take it for granted that even bethesda know now that their fallout thing is largely unrelated to the classic games or NV. its like a reboot or a side story
3 was a cluster fuck, but i feel like after getting BTFO by NV, besthesda have realised where their own strengths are, and where theyre too weak to compete intellectually with better RPG writers
its a fun action game with a good setting and a fair amount of content
>>343749774
Go to New Reno. You should've been given the location by now. You wanna do some of New Reno before you get to Vault 13
>>343749858
DELETE THIS
believing you're in a rush to save the village/get water for the vault would make it a lot more tense and I wish I thought that when playing
>>343749628
you need a nap.
>>343746397
>the generic "roll your own" story that goes nowhere?
>the ugly dated (even for the time) graphics?
>the forgettable "music"? (or lack thereof)
Fuck off todd i'm not buying your shitty fallout 4.
When is everyone going to realise that Fallout has always been a mediocre series?
>>343749904
did you get less time? I'll never understand you speedrunners.
>>343750074
name a better one in a similar vein.
>Tfw people who say "dated even for its time" were almost certainly not alive and playing video games during "its time"
Literally every pc game looked like this back then.
>>343750074
gothic fan detected
they're just okay, but if you want the real fallout experience you should buy fallout 4
>>343750089
Nah, I got at least 10+ hours on both
>>343749934
>wanting tension
>in a post apocalyptic rpg
Pl-
*cough
Pleeaase....b-buy...the...
*wheeze*
gaaaame....
>>343749773
Except you also have to stay out of range so that enemies don't get easy attacks in which is already a whole lot more than what you have to do in NV.
>>343750004
Suck my dick faggot
>>343750197
Often with half the resolution
>>343744859
i just did a play through of fo1. about to start fo2. what #charname should i roll?
>>343749904
I have no idea how you can beat FO1/2 under 30+ hours unless specifically knowing and going for the mainquest. Which doesn't sound fun at all.
It's clearly possible but why?
>non bethesda fallout threads are still full of toddposting
I hate what happened to this franchise.
>>343750368
I would, but you're probably underage and I don't want to go to jail.
>>343750417
Come on man no one has to know
>>343750197
>meanwhile, on consoles...
I remember Fallout 2's back of the box. They wrote "Fall in love, get married, and then pimp your spouse for a little extra chump-change. Hey, it's a dark and dangerous world".
Holy shit would people go ballistic these days if someone sold their game on these premises.
>>343750457
what's the legal status of using machines over the internet?
guess the law hasn't caught up with that yet?
brave new world
>>343750486
>It's a "Nintendo fanboy wanders into a thread that has nothing to do with Nintendo and can't help himself" episode
>>343750486
Ugly shit?
>>343749773
>Playing the most typical OP character ever in every fallout made: The Small Arms Sniper
It's interesting when you find energy weapons early on and have absolute shit aim. Do you run up point blank and hope for the best without targeting? Do you go for the abysmal chance to hit the eyes or take a higher chance to cripple its legs as energy weapons don't deal less damage in 1/2 depending on skill.
>>343750597
face it, Bethesda is a poor developer. they've never been good at optimizing. even the early fallouts are testimate to this.
Fallout 1 & 2 are just prototypes for a series that achieved apotheosis with Fallout 3 and Fallout 4.
>>343750658
nice
>>343750197
Wow, that's what fallout 2 looks like? I don't feel bad for missing out now.
>>343744859
For me it's New Vegas > 1 > 2
I feel that 2's main strong point (the variety and amount of content in comparison to 1) is also its biggest weakness, it's kind of a clusterfuck, there's no real focus and the tone is all over the place
>>343749334
>shoot straight south
>hit the river one square north of San Fran
>figure I have to unlock it somehow and head back up north
I wasn't a smart kid
>>343750387
On my first playthrough i headed due south on the coast looking for suliks tribe, eventually got to san fran with some save scumming, game was over 4 hours later. I thought it was total shit, second playthrough i did the obvious route and it was a bit better.
>>343749430
>1>NV>2
Yes, I like this. NV is a more direct sequel to 2, but 2 is weaker than 1 and NV, so it's still essential playing imo.
>>343744859
I'm an NV fag who fucked around with the originals around the time they came out but never really played them because I was kid. Got FO1 for free from gog a few years ago and grabbed FO2 during the summer sale. I finished FO1 a few days ago and it was actually pretty good. I wish the followers ending/quest was fixed, but c'est la vie. I'm digging FO2 even more and I just got to Vault City. The main issue I'm having with it is the fact I was given an Assault Rifle in Modoc, 50 rounds, and now I can't seem to find any more ammo to buy and I only have one mag left.
>>343749334
>hurrdurr i un-played the game deliberately by ignoring the questline of the game's story and wandered off in the complete opposite sirection towards something no character would know was there, met-gaming out my ass, got the best armour and gun and went straight to the end of the game.
>so obviously this is a shit 'open world' game with no length at all and is totally crap.
nah, go fuck yourself you metagaming cuntbag.
using out of character information to cut off 4/5ths of the game is retarded.
>>343751130
Maybe turn it off and go socialize with real people because you type like you have autism.
>>343751246
Not out of character, i had no idea what was there and i wanted to explore and see weird enemies. Its not an on rail shooter.
>>343750858
>graphics baby
You wouldn't enjoy it anyway
>>343750197
>Fallout
Fuck you nigger, leave Crusader alone
>>343750553
Very ballistic, you could also kill kids in fallout one and two.
Can't do that shit anymore.
>>343751130
>now I can't seem to find any more ammo to buy and I only have one mag left.
go to san fran, easy place for higher end ammo buying and trading usually.
>>343751361
> very ballistic
> totally radicular
> totes awesome man
Its a wonder you havent killed yourself
>>343750982
>with some save scumming
What can I say? The game made a soft border to make it difficulty to go towards san fran, hinting it might be TOO HARD for someone your level/equipment. You brute forced it and the game didn't stop you with invisible walls so you bypassed most of the content and won the game early.
I think it's fantastic how it allows you to pretty much break the game without insurmountable obstacles which must FIRST be triggered properly by another quest or such. I'd be thrilled if more games let me do shit like that today.
I don't think replaying a game after beating it exceedingly fast, feeling it's rather shit and short, is very rewarding either.
>>343751250
It's off because I'm going to bed soon because it's officially 4th of July and I have shit to do today with friends and famalams. Giving context isn't autistic. Thinking context is autistic is what's really autistic, autismo.
>>343751429
I'll check it out tomorrow. I don't why they'd fucking give me this gun and then not spawn any fucking ammo for it, though.
>>343744859
no
i could beat fallout new vegas in the time it takes for a single round of combat to end in fallout 2
>>343747490
Nah
2>1>Tactics>NV>3
>>343751490
People would go ballistic if you pimped out women in a modern video game.
Jeez even /pol/ has less cry babies then /v/
>>343751429
> go to san fran
> go to san fran
> go to san fran
Its no wonder none of you adhd ritalin abusing spastic children can enjoy an actual masterpiece like FO2 when you have to jump to the ending using your neogaf guide and pretend the game was always shit. The politics probably went woosh over your head. Go back to memeing FO3 you idiots, leave fallout 2 to the adults.
planescape > fallout
>>343749334
>memes
It's lovely how pop culture references retroactively gets transformed into meme status everyone on /v/ hates today. There were no such cancer status for references anywhere near when the game was made.
I'm not autistic/too ADHD to play turn based isometrics. All I want for Christmas is an Obsidian made redux of Fallout 1 and 2 in the gameplay of New Vegas.never ever ;_;
>>343749915
>its a fun action game
The combat is much smoother, sure. It doesn't do anything to stand above any of it's competitors though,and a lot of mechanics that aren't gunplay are stale because they're pasted right from Fallout 3 and New Vegas (which I've probably put 700+ hours into combined)
>with a good setting
Nah. There's almost nothing exciting to explore besides the main quest locations. Diamond City is the biggest city in the game by far, which isn't saying much. Not that the focus of Bethesda's games is on cities, but the external environment is bland as shit too. The biggest new thing about the game was the settlement building, which had no payoff because the small attacks you faced were dealt with in seconds.
>and a fair amount of content
Less than any previous Fallout game, besides 1. I clocked 80 hours trying to find more areas worth seeing, but besides the main quest there isn't. There's something like 15 quests that aren't Radiant or connected to the main story.
NV=2>1>4>3>T
I like 1 and 2 far more than NV when it comes to almost everything. NV has its moments, and some of the quests are better than anything found in the original two games (How Little We Know and Beyond The Beef) but it's wrapped in so much crap that I had to force myself to keep playing.
By far the biggest problem is the world, it's devoid of content outside of some points of interests. And even then your exploration is gated by progress in the main quests like with the Brotherhood bunker. Then there's just the really depressing parts like the spooky airport on the edge of the map with nothing but some caps in it. Really makes it unrewarding to explore. This wasn't a problem in the old games because the emptiness was presented by an abstract overworld, so you were never teased with structures in the distance or anything like that.
Then there's the shallow unchallenging combat, the removal of any critical thought from skill use, the way skill checks work in general, the fact that most of the NPC's are really dry exposition machines and just the half finished feel of the game.
>>343751676
Is this false flagging? No one defends a game by doing a "guaranteed replies" post which only serves to trigger more people.
>>343751250
>caring about the way someone types
>making a dumb offtopic post calling them out
>accusing someone else of being an autist
>>343750407
It's just a joke, the crux of it being that Bethesda is shit.
>>343749519
kill urself my man
>>343751350
That's clearly the Den in Fallout 2 dude, keep up
>>343751852
Im not, i just get teed off by people talking shit on FO2
>>343744859
This is my favorite Fallout. I hate meme that it circus fallout. All jokes in game don't breake lore or logick like in f3-4.
>>343749519
>Super Mutants
>a solely post-War American phenomenon
>in China
Ghouls sure, but only because China makes the Glow and the Glowing Sea look clean. It's still just a giant radstorm 200 years later.
>>343752189
> conversation has moved way past him
> posts anyway
Ok ive just popped your opinion in the bin there.
>>343752189
This might be the most eastern european post I've seen on /v/ ever
>>343752361
>No mention of squatting or cyka blyats
it's a 4/10 at best
>>343747490
nice bait
here another (you)
>>343751491
at least in 3 and nv you could kill just about anyone except main quest characters that are actually essential to the getting the end screen, 4 just made most of the named characters essential as to not let you break any of todd's quests. even 3 had non essential companions.
>>343751572
even doing absolute cancerous methods it takes awhile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT9LY-ALFxg
>>343751676
I usually just go there around midgame to get equipment/ammo if I have the money then finish the rest of the areas. I'm not one of those faggots that goes straight to navvaro for pa and vindicator which make combat irrelevent for 90% of the content. Do you have to sperg out?
>>343752058
well prepared to get teed off
while it has an interesting lore and story and connects well with fallout 1 the combat is an absolute fucking slog
>>343752520
In 3 you can't kill characters that are only related to minor, easily missable sidequests.
I want your stupid gun Harkness die die die
>>343752609
>tfw completing harkness's quest in his favor and then running like a bat out of hell to zimmerman and telling him that harkness is a synth and getting that sweet sweet perk AND gun
>>343752560
Then dont put your points in "oh cool!" plasma weapons at the start of the game like the fucking milennial you are, its not the game's job to hold your hand whilst you make your weak ass choices. Fallout 2 is for men not children.
F2>F1>FNV>F3>F:T>F4
>>343753162
The most pleb opinion possible
>>343752890
i tried building for str, per and agility and with points dumped into melee, but even with my sledgehammer i kept missing and doing 3-4 damage at best
and ps. unless you were born in the 70s then you too are a millenial, おっさん
>>343752361
>>343753543
>be weeb
>can't even grasp basic RPG mechanics in one of the most user friendly stat systems of all time
бpaвo
>>343753543
Eбaть ты лoх.
If healing can be used on any target (like in fallout 1-2) I equip a weak but precise weapon and then proceed to cripple the last enemy of every random group I face, preferably humanoid types. First I cripple his arms so he can't use 2handed weapons and aim like shit with 1handed, then I cripple his legs so he can't run away far.
After every hit I check his HP with the awareness perk and heal him up good with superstims when he's near death. After that I carefully cripple the eyes and the crotch until only the head remains. Usually he has now collapsed a couple of times and can only run away a few steps per turn while occasionally slapping me on the cheek with a non-damaging punch. I unequip my weapons and pound him in the head until he goes fully unconscious. For good measure I throw rocks on his groin until he is very low on health. Lastly I go to sleep next to his body for an hour or so, just chilling, and when I wake up I see a fresh corpse some distance away, lying in a pool of his own blood. He didn't even go for the gun I dropped in the middle of the zone.
His entire body crippled beyond repair, eyes blinded, groin devastated, riddled with bullets and severe fatal wounds yet what killed him wasn't the bleeding or the shock. The superstim backlash had strangled the last life out of him just moments before he could walk out of the grid.
>>343754329
Tlbdr
>>343753810
not an argument
>>343753803
>under 18
MODS
>>343745408
>why?
Way more depth, way more scale, way more freedom, better writing.
>nostalgia?
bitch pls. I was a literal Ninten-kid up until mid-00s.
>combat isn't any better.
Yeah, THIS is what's wrong with you fucking Xbox-generation console morons. You only ever judge a game by its combat, literally skipping all the other gameplay elements in a goddamn ROLE-playing game.
Also, I greatly prefer the turn-based, more tactical combat over the literal FPS with RNG + levels shit the 3D ones have.
>>343747363
The art direction is superb, and 2D visuals age a lot better than early 3D.
>>343745408
Fallout used to be an RPG, where quest design and character freedom mattered a shitload more than combat.
>>343754505
Thanks mods. You're not faggots for once.
>>343756327
The fuck happened to him? Do they need that air tank to survive.
>>343753407
Nah, most pleb opinion possible would have Fallout 3 or 4 near the top.
>>343746467
m8. In 1998's brand new world of 3D accelerated graphics Fallout's sub-SNES quality graphics just do not cut it.
>>343756413
Bloody Mess Extreme perk / critical hit.
>>343756476
they cut it just fine for me in 2004, and they cut just fine back in 98.
>>343756413
clearly he got shot with a cerebral bore
>>343747409
Wanna play some online matches, low spec only?
>>343744859
I prefer Fallout 1 over 2.
In terms of quantity 2 offers much more than 1, but It doesn't feel as good.
NV is something different. It is called Fallout and has the same themes, but the gameplay is so different; I don't like to compare them.
>want to play F2 again
>remember the turn-based combat and bullshit random encounters
>>343756510
>dat gif
Ten year old me always thought Doom was hardcore as fuck until I saw that animation in Fallout 1. The new Fallouts in gamebryo simply can't compare.
>>343746397
>>343756660
Outdoorsman is considered such a crappy skill except for all those times where it isn't.
>>343756660
So just tag Outdoorsmen and cap it at after you level. It effectively caps at 100 so you can max it almost immediately.
>>343756719
true dat.
Partly because limitations of (console) 3D graphics, part because of cowardly devs.
>>343744859
I've been playing through the first Fallout game recently and it's pretty great, but sometimes the combat can be boring where it takes forever for the characters to walk around.
>>343756327
Baldur's Gate has way better visuals than Fallout.
>>343756660
>people disliking turn-based combat these days
no wonder everything's so shit now.
>>343756895
crank up the combat speed.
>>343756921
I don't dislike turn-based combat, I just don't like Fallout's. It's irrevocably shit; it's not even as tactical as the Infinity Engine games, and THEY'RE borderline mindless.
>>343756760
The majority of skills in Fallout 2 are shitty.
>>343756920
>being this casual
Feeling nostalgic much?
>>343744859
ahhhhhhh great RPG!
You heard that bedseda
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>>343756981
That has to be the laser gatling. Loved the shit out of it but my two favs were the Vindicator and Gauss Rifle.
>>343747490
>3 before 2
>3 before NV
>3 before anything
obvious b8, nobody have such a bad vidya taste
>>343747607
>no going full psycho with your 16AP
why would I want a cure
>>343749462
I deny it. It was a great focused game
>>343756232
>>343749628
Fallout 2 combat is not only atrocious but also luck based and unbalanced as fuck.
Let me remind you of the myriad map encounters that have you start close to 6+ gun using enemies no matter your PER score
Or the simple fact that if you get hit with a critical from a burst weapon you are pretty much dead no matter your stats, same if you get knocked down
Or how 70% of the perks do useless shit nobody would ever bother getting
At least the first Fallout didn't have these fucking retarded map encounters
