What's the best Star Wars game ever made and why is it Jedi Outcast?
Outcast, Academy and KOTOR* are the only good games, period.
>>343743417
Great taste OP
>>343743417
Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast
It's jedi Academy for the sole reason of downloading the Movie Battles 2 mod. Somehow after all these years movie battles 2 gives me that nostalgic feeling of the old mods in communities when I play.
>>343743612
He looks like a Kowaikian Monkey-Lizard.
>>343743615
>never played MB2 in my life
>want to give it a shot
>everyone's already a pro at the game so I get fucked up easily enough
The same thing happened to me in NeoTokyo.
>>343743417
What is the trick to lightsaber fighting in Outcast/Academy?
I nominate KotoR 1 or 2, or Academy.
>>343743735
same thing happens with any nichely popular multiplayer game
>hey blade symphony is really neat looking and pretty fun!
>haven't played it in forever
>know it'd be full of elite sword bros who have nolifed it since release
so it goes
I always liked Jedi Academy because it felt like you were the jedi going on missions instead of Kyle Katarn's story. That and more freedom with sabers.
>>343743735
The clone trooper class or mandalorian class destroys sith and jedi pretty easily. Look for lightsaber duel servers as well, I find those people actually study the lightsaber combat in the game and are open to teach newbies how to fight properly with lightsabers instead of swinging wildly and praying like I used to do
>there will never be another star wars game done with similar gameplay mechanics and thought-out linear maps and progression.
Remind me why l shouldn't blow my brains out again?
You guys ever heard of a little game called Battlefront 2?
Yeah... no further questions.
>>343743992
Because maybe, JUST MAYBE, we'll get another good xwing/tie fighter sim after Rogue One
>>343743992
>they will never make another level like this in any future Star Wars game
But hey, EA only holds the license until... 2024?
There's still hope.Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
>>343743417
I kind of like Jedi Academy more. I liked how you had a bunch of missions to choose from and how you start as a Padawan who can only use force push and jump slightly higher to a Jedi Knight who can jump as high as a building and wipe out a squad of stormtroopers with ease.
Lightsaber fights with the Reborn were better in Jedi Outcast though, I'd save before each one just to play through them again.
>>343743992
Since you've already done so before, there's no point in doing it again if you're just going to respawn into this world
>>343744032
Much love for Battlefront 1 and 2 but jedi Academy and outcast have them beat for force powers and lightsaber combat. The movie battles mod that those above guys mentioned also brings really fun online gunplay that's different to the Battlefronts'
>>343744163
>I'd save before each one just to play through them again.
Same
>>343743992
Perhaps Mount and Blade Bannerlord's mod support could make the combat come true. That's a strong maybe though.
>>343744152
Just look at what Disney is doing with all their copyrights. If EA keeps getting bigger they'll find a way to loophole and extend their sole ownership somehow and keep star wars their own forever
>>343743417
This game blew my fucking mind when I was younger, but it was so long ago I don't really remember that much about it other than the physics being really cool and it was one of the only games I could get my computer to run decently. Multiplayer was also cool, I remember seeing a lot of Homer Simpsons running around with dual-sided red lightsabers.
>>343744254
I read mbg frequently, and if there is one thing I've learned
It's that the modding community is too autistic and far-gone to get anything of note done. Every currently usable mod probably has 50 defunct or otherwise abandoned mods.
Fuck gsanders with an aids covered pole.
>>343744794
true true. Only mod I comeback to consistently is A Clash of Kings. It's pretty well polished and I like A song of Ice and Fire as a setting.
That reticle pisses me the fuck off. Is there any way to fix it?
>using heavy/red style
Fucking clown
One thing that always bothered me about star wars games is that lightsabers can stay on forever. There should be a battery meter or something, I mean it's obvious the power is limited.
>the whole dark forces/jedi knight series
so good
>>343745254
Combine that with spamming force push and you can take out Desann in two or three clean strong hits assuming he doesn't push you away once he's fallen over.
>>343745272
Name a game where you're running around with it on for over 5 hours. If my high powered flashlight can stay on for over 5 hours their high tech mystery power source or battery can probably stay running longer than any level or mission or time a player would normally have it on
>>343745389
Not many series without a single bad entry, but it's one of them. Also, KOTOR
>>343745272
Dark side enemies would have an even more unfair advantage since they can use the force an unlimited amount of times.
You mean republic commando.
>>343744254
>star wars conquest fucking died
for fucksake
>tfw kyle katarn isn't canon now
>>343745737
He is. They just renamed and remodeled him a bit.
>>343745991
Nah, you're thinking of not!Katarn and his not!Jan Twi'lek pilot girlfriend (who's voiced by Jan's VA) from Rebels.
battlefront 2
Why are there so many good Star Wars games? You'd expect a mainstream non-vidya media to translate into complete and total shit.
>>343743735
MB2 doesn't take that long to get good at and there are a *lot* of scrubs who play compared to good players. Clone is really easy to learn and highly effective. Once you've got that down, try to pick up Soldier.
>>343747232
no, youre thinking of actual kyle katarn and jan in dark forces the movie
>>343743417
outcast is a terrible game with the star wars license and fun combat mechanics holding it up, absolutely everything else ranges from subpar to bad
animations, the level design, story, enemy design, bosses etc etc, pretty much everything is unremarkable outside of the core mechanics
Jedi academy is turrible
Jedi academy, it gave you the control over your levels and force progression and had better option for weaponry. And I'd put Jedi knight at second place because it had fantastic levels and for the time really inventive mechanics with force and fencing. Outcast always looked rather boring to me.
>E3 2016
>they show off 3 seconds of the new SW game
>immediately know it will be uninspired Uncharted-tier trash
at least 1313 had you play as Boba Fett
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>>343749392
>outcast is a terrible game
Opinion discarded and your bloodline has been marked for sterilization and termination.
>>343744398
Bloody mousejews and their bloody copyright.
>>343749997
Sup, HK-47
>>343744053
>EA in charge of making a single good game that isn't dumbed down into oblivion
gl with that
>>343749997
Are you 15? Or are you just clinically retarded?
>waah le i-implying it isnt good :(
well argued, coming from someone who has actually been working on games, outcast is a piece of shit in so many ways its not even funny
one of its most atrocious design sins is having such completely amateurish level design that the developers have no clue on how to guide players to solve the environmental puzzles, hence why tons of people get constantly stuck and spend an hour running around mashing E on everything
At least the Battlefront VR experience has potential.
>>343750256
Sounds like you need to git gud
>>343743417
>What's the best Star Wars game ever made and why is it Jedi Outcast?
because its Jedi Outcast
>>343750509
sounds like youre accidentally on an 18+ website
>>343750256
>coming from someone who has actually been working on games
IndieMaker 2.0 doesn't count, fatass.
Anyone who says Outcast has massive nostalgia goggles on. Both Academy and Knight are way better.
>>343750256
>coming from someone who has actually been working on games
>>343750714
nope
outcast is the best, i hated academys combat rolls, they locked you into the direction you rolled in
Jedi academy because i liked using dual sabers online
I don't think I ever finished Outcast but I got quite far in it
The console-enabled lightsaber gore stuff is awesome but it makes the game way too easy
Every time I fought against a Sith I just randomly faliled around until the enemy fell apart
>>343743735
I was just like you until I got gud.
>>343749887
I thought 1313 had you as generic mercs.
>>343743417
That's not TIE Fighter, you rebel scum!
>>343743417
Say, why didn't TCW ever get a good game? It was ripe for it. Lots of good material.
AAGAJSAGGAGAGHAGFGH
Here's why JO > JA:
You aren't showered with lightsaber battles to the point that they get stale like in JA
Kyle slowly gets his powers back level per level naturally, he jumps higher, he does more jump moves, etc
JA's story is lackluster (Rosh)
You play as Kyle motherfucking Katarn
>>343750256
news flash, you sperg
JO's good levels > JA's good levels, this is fact
>>343752138
never said academy is any better
>>343750256
It's a known fact that JO's SP > JA's SP and JA's MP > JO's MP
>>343752138
The only problem is that JO doesn't have good levels. They all range from terrible to bearable.
>>343743521
>Battlefront 1 & 2
>TIE Fighter
>Republic Commando
>>343752017
Pretty much this, though JA did introduce some new saber moves.
>It's an 'Outcast vs Academy' thread
I loved both. Neither are perfect, but they are disputably the best Star Wars games.
There will never be another JK game and if there were it'd be terrible. It's a tragic fact of life we all have to deal with.
>>343752370
What am even looking at? That shit is beyond terrible.
>>343743521
>Empire at War
>not good
>>343752481
I'd be funny if it wasn't because, a decade later, they haven't improved their animations a single thing.
>>343752481
An attempt at animation made by a bioware intern held at gun-point
>>343752370
Apex kek.
How to tell if a Star wars game is good in one easy step!
Is Kyle Katarn in it?
>>343743521
Im sorry but outcast is pretty sublar compared to dark forces 2.. Which is one of the greatest first person shooter/third person on the pc
>>343751818
UNLIMITED POWAAAAAH
>>343752370
Holy shit. This surpasses that Dragon Age one where the protag pushes that assassin out the window.
Why is Bioware so shit at animation now? ME2 was fine. What the hell happened? This is amateurishly bad. The sort of thing you'd expect from someone learning how to animate.
>>343744152
I dont think i ever beat that level.. It was so fucking confusing.. I just used thereisnotry when i got there
>>343752746
ME2 was still pretty bad. I think it was when they started using the same 10 animations for everything.
>>343752634
I never got to unlock Katarn in Rogue Squadron.
>>343752826
You also had the problem of cutscene weapons never lining up with what you had on you, and even if they did bother doing it properly they were usually being held wrong.
>>343752370
what the actual fuck
>>343752746
Dude, Mass Effect 3 recycles animations from Mass Effect 1, BioWare is just one of the worst, if not the worst, Triple A studio regarding animations.
DF2 > JO > JA
Anyone who says otherwise is a fucking tool
>>343750256
people like you are the reason good games don't come out any more.
>>343750256
people like you are the reason good games don't come out any more. If you need an arrow constantly pointing toward the big dumb highlighted object just so you can finish a level, maybe it's time to stop playing vidya or play something more on your level.
>>343753670
>>343753491
are you retarded?
theres a difference between convoluted and good level design, and your inability to process criticism or arguments of any kind towards MUH FAVORIT GAEM :'( shows you should get the fuck out from 4chan
oblivious retards like you are the reason "good games" dont come out anymore, and its because you dont know what a good game is
and jedi outcast is in my top 5 games of all time, difference is that im not a 15 year old who thinks the game will leave me unless all I have for it is unanimous idiotic praise
>>343752481
Hundreds of million dollars of budget.
>>343743417
I agree
>>343755969
Why are disintegrations so damn satisfying to watch?
>ywn disintegrate humans for the first time on Destroy All Humans again
>>343743417
1313
>>343743735
There's still a lot of players who aren't all that great. The mod got a surge of popularity around the time the last movie came out.
>>343752481
An attempt to create a fight scene with canned animations and no moving camera
>>343752370
Rewatch it everytime. That fucking neck crink
>>343752370
They stepped their cutscene-fu up immensely with the expansion but daaaaamn, shit's still not great to look at.
>>343743417
>Have to play as white male
are you kidding?
I never understood what people saw in Outcast. To me it was always a mediocre FPS with a lightsaber. At least the first Jedi Knight was a decent FPS.
>>343752781
>I dont think i ever beat that level.. It was so fucking confusing
That's a summary for most of the Jedi Knight games until Academy. They have some of the worst level design ever.
>>343750256
>having such completely amateurish level design that the developers have no clue on how to guide players to solve the environmental puzzles
>guide players
The puzzles in the Jedi Knight series are easily the most mundane in comparison to other Star Wars games (i.e KoTOR I Tower of Hanoi Puzzle - KoTOR II Vogga's Freighter Security Codes Puzzle). The fact that you even need the developers to tell you what to do, therefore simplifying the game, reveals how incompetent you are as a player and removes the challenge that would fleshen out the general experience.
>>343759662
youre retarded and completely misinterpreting the point
the "puzzles" range from easy to nonexistant, they are "hard" because the environment doesnt make sense in a way that would make you look for the solutions in logical spots
most players get stuck atleast once during outcast and end up running around the level because they missed something retarded
>>343749887
>uninspired Uncharted-tier trash
That was pretty much what 1313 was.
Although it's a shame we never got to see those Twi'lek hookers in the concept art.
>>343750592
Well meme'd, my fedora wearing friend.
>>343751818
Spinning is a good trick.
>>343760661
>Twilek hookers
now I have the urge to watch twileks dancing to pour some sugar on me or girls on film
basejka > jk2 >>>>> ja+ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mb2
force > guns >>> lightsabers
![e7b2eb4b-c564-49d6-ac6c-51367bee2333[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SCVGASK.jpg "e7b2eb4b-c564-49d6-ac6c-51367bee2333[1].jpg")
>>343749887
Goddamn, I'd like more games (or even a movie) that has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING FORCE SENSITIVE.
Nothing to do with superdoomhyperdoomagain weapons.
Nothing to do with whiny little bitches throwing hissy fits.
Nothing to do with hurr muh republic.
Don't make it fucking Firefly, but I'd follow/play something about a ramshackly adventurous bounty-hunter, smuggler or 'merchant'. At some point, people must have realized that hearing the BJOUSH sound of a lightsaber = death and that the mere mention of any jedi/sith in the immediate vicinity was not good for business (unless THEY were the business and some bounty-hunter with neutronium spaceballs was going at them).
>>343758743
I get lost easily does not equal shit level design
I played all the Jedi Knight games recently for the first time and I had no problem with navigation and I honestly prefer maze like old school levels to what we're getting nowadays (linear corridors with only one way to move forward).
>>343759963
Oh yeah, most players missed something retarded that was pointed out during a cutscene... or something retarded that is written in your mission log. Maybe those players should consider playing something less brain stimulating.... maybe a game of tic tac toe is more up their alley.
>>343761376
The Bounty Hunter storyline in TOR is pretty much what you want (one or two whiny bitches) but the rest of the game isn't worth the effort.
>>343761742
are you 15? The entire basis of your nonexistant "argument" is that waah muh favorite gaem is perfect its just too hard for u :¨(
>>343743417
Actually its Dark Forces1
>>343761840
You need to play more games, maybe one of those older games that doesn't show you in a map where you have to go and what you need to do everytime.
>>343761764
I think I've been told this before once.
And yes, I know it's not worth any amount of effort.I don't have a single SW pic on my PC, incidentally. Have this instead.
>>343762158
Keep proving my point kid
ive beaten outcast probably 20 times, youre genuinely too stupid to understand what im talking about so just stop embarrassing yourself and go dickride the game on youtube comments or something
Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy, Rogue Squadron, Empire at War.Modded Stellaris.
>>343762201
I had a lot of fun with this game but as soon as you're done with the story it loses its charm.
Also, I'm excited for real space ships. Wonder how they will look like...
>>343762543
Long, ugly, radiating.
Until the point where we start wargaming the ever loving fuck out of the stars and we place retarded handicaps in place for rule-of-cool.
I mean, if we can ever get a good delta-v coupled with passable TWR propulsion... Might as well call it magic at this point. But, damn. Do I wish.
>>343762286
Wew, sorry sir. I'm leaving right now.
*tips*
>>343752370
The best bit is the background fighting which is just three faggots firing nonstop at a single jedi who is just spinning their saber about and standing still.
Bioware does it again
>>343743417
Why has no Star Wars game let me make the one thing I want, a female Mandalorian?
>>343743417
So many kiddies here. Tie Fighter is the greatest SW game ever.
>>343752638
My brother... These children just wanted a game built off of the SBX mod
>>343762959
because mandos are shit and most of their fans are edgy kids
>>343762773
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/04/evaluating-nasas-futuristic-em-drive/
Its a start
Also
>logh ships
Yesss.
>>343743521
>No Rouge Squadron
>>343763174
Yes, and? Jedi are shit, Sith are shit, Clone troopers are shit, the Empire is shit, Ewoks are shit, in a galaxy far, far away there was a lot of shit.
Kids don't know what Mandalorians are anyways
>>343763383
>Kids don't know what Mandalorians are anyways
But they've shown up a bunch of times in Rebels, and one of the protags is a mando girl.
>>343763340
Have them all.
>>343743521
Shame on you.
>>343763350
>rouge
>>343763490
I'll second some Racer... god why did it's sequel have to be such a disapointment
>>343763432
Should probably catch up on Rebels since Sabine was the only Mando in that show when I watched it
Still I want to make a qt Mando girl with durasteel shocktrooper armor, dual blasters and a jetpack
>>343745612
Republic Commando is the shit. Great OST that didn't just copy existing score, too.
>low on ammo, team half dead
>two previous mini-bosses now common enemies walker droids out of nowhere
>mfw this starts playing while your team yells at you to keep going
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsMRHu1GhbY
>>343763443
Yessssssss
>>343763617
She's still the only mainmando, but others have shown up.
Mashup of Bounty Hunter and Jedi Academy when.
Make your own hunter, advance in the ranks and take more and more dangerous missions, get new equipment and tools, get a fearsome reputation.
Add personal touches to your armour with every impressive feat or kill you make.
All I'd want more than that would be a large scale Coruscant open world to explore.
Also the game looks like this.
https://youtu.be/ufikwk7_AD0?t=48s
Prey 2 why did you have to die.
>>343764014
>>343763834
>Republic Commando is shit.
ftfy
praising republic commando is one of those surefire retard tells just like praising MGS3
its babbys first FPS with ridiculously bullet spongey enemies and no interesting/ unique mechanics, ugly graphics, bland level design
only good part was the squad and that didnt affect the gameplay almost at all
>>343764014
Things that could have been
>>343755969
>>343764646
It still hurts man.
Beth just rubbed fucking salt in the wound with their new Prey at e3.
>>343764330
This bait doesn't really work here now does it?
go back to posting about outcast
>>343743417
Are these games good on modern PC's?
I hate how riddled with issues old games on PC tend to be. If it isn't outright incompatibilities, it's that the mouse sensitivity is horrendous to the point where you lower it as far as you can on the sensitivity slider and then even have to go into your mouse driver software and lower the DPI there and/or the default keyboard bindings are fucking stupid like A and D and the use/activate command not being on E.
>>343764992
>b-bait...
well argued
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QZ4kFoH.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
shame this doesnt get a mention in these threads. My favourite sw space sim
>>343763383
>Jedi are shit, Sith are shit, Clone troopers are shit, the Empire is shit, Ewoks are shit, in a galaxy far, far away there was a lot of shit.
So you don't like star wars, I get it.
>>343752614
>That guy who just runs into the giant spinning lightsabers?
What did he think would happen?
>>343743417
So is JA multiplayer still a bit active? Ipiratedthe game for the singleplayer. Been thinking about buying it.
>>343766098
To be fair, they tried that on order 66 and it worked surprisingly well.it was then I realized that throughout this fight the clones was just using pretty much the same tactics they used to fight jedi
>>343745272
They never do keep them on forever though. I can only think of battlefront.
>>343743417
LOL at the screenshot
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do more look like?
>>343752509
It's really not. Rebellion is so much better.
>>343766376
Nigga you must be a Slaanesh worshipper since you look like you're fucking high right now.
>>343761376
>Don't make it fucking Firefly, but I'd follow/play something about a ramshackly adventurous bounty-hunter, smuggler or 'merchant'. At some point, people must have realized that hearing the BJOUSH sound of a lightsaber = death and that the mere mention of any jedi/sith in the immediate vicinity was not good for business (unless THEY were the business and some bounty-hunter with neutronium spaceballs was going at them).
I mean that's basically Star Wars: Bounty Hunter. Say what you will about the prequels, we got some good vidya out of them
>>343743417
Eh, Academy had the funnest gameplay.
But I will admit Outcast is still better because even if it lacks some of the extra stuff JKA has that was kinda neat it has a story that's miles better than JKA.
Also rosh is the worst character ever if you didn't pick the dark side route you're a fucking faggot.
I still say the best Star Wars Spacesim games were the Rogue Squadron games for the Gamecube.Somewhere, in some alternate reality, Factor 5 was in charge of updating the X-Wing and TIE Fighter games for PC. And they were GLORIOUS.
>>343743417
That's a faggy way to spell "X-wing" anon
Why do people get such a hard on for JK's lightsaber combat? Shit was shallow as fuck and has aged like milk.
>>343766613
I always picked the dark side ending of the game, because the boss battle was so much better when you're fighting Kyle Katarn instead of Tavion.
>>343766827
the last level of JKA if you've chosen the dark side is goat. All those 3 way battles and Katarn as the final boss.
seriously disappointed there was no sequel with a dark side canon ending where you play as Katarn (and possibly a new student because people would want customization after JKA) hunting down Jaden
![[Cookie Monster Voice Intensifies].png](https://i.imgur.com/XGnUsam.png "[Cookie Monster Voice Intensifies].png")
>Put that cookie down jaden.
>The dark chocolate will ultimately destroy you!
>Rosh resisted it you can too!
>THEN STOP ME MASTER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhyP9DDO_6Eyou will never unhear it.
>>343766613
>rosh
developers nailed it. they made the character so annoying so nearly every fag who played the game just chose dark side just to slice that little faggot in two. Just shows how weak we are and easily tempted to dark side. Fucking brilliant.
>>343767015
Yeah, I wish there was a game that let you do that, just start straight from the dark side and not be all "Lol younglings gonna die".
>>343766613
>Rosh.
His voice actor has actually came on record to say he regretted ever voicing this guy, he's gone on to do voices in several other games but everyone only remembers him as this annoying little shithead.
I feel for him honestly.
DF 1 and 2 were much better than Outcast, Academy was annoying
>>343767178
>Rebel Agent
>Underworld
>Rebel Fury
>Vader
>Rebel Scum
>Han Solo
>Rebel Warrior
>Scum and Villainy
>Rise of the Rebellion
All of these sound fun
I'd love more good star wars games that arent Jedi stuff.
Rosh was made to be annoying, yeah, but nerds are fucking retarded and over exagerrated how annoying he is lik casuals did with Navi and the Water Temple.
>>343767127
>No cookie shopped in his hand.
7/10
![[Cookie Monster Voice Intensifies].png](https://i.imgur.com/khpT8Wh.png "[Cookie Monster Voice Intensifies].png")
>>343767681
>>343751584
That one shit game was made when the show was still rather new and childish.
There was a game in developement about Darth Maul v.s. the Death Watch but then that story of George, Darth Icky & Insanius happened, the designers were forced to change the time period 130-150 years into the future and like a year later George sold everything to Disney who cancelled the whole mess.
>>343743417
I want a game with lightsaber mechanics like JO, force gripping like TFU and a story like KOTOR.
>>343765519
XWA was incredible. Remember this?
http://xwaupgrade.com/
>>343768358
Lucas is a master troll.
>>343765519
I was really annoyed that you didn't play as Ace during the battle of Endor. I'll take an X-Wing over the Memelennium Falcon any day.
![[Screams internally].gif](https://i.imgur.com/jW7nsxB.gif "[Screams internally].gif")
>>343768358
Moral of the story is, if george lucas is interested in your project...You're fucked.
You know something is wrong here, when the creator of a series you're making a game for wants to help out with development the reaction should be
>Oh hey cool!
no
>SHUT IT DOWN SHUT IT DOWN NOW HE CAN'T SEE ANYTHING OR ELSE
>>343768852
>I'll take an X-Wing over the Memelennium Falcon any day.
You're my nigga.
Han Solo is a tryhard
Lando is the true cool guy of Star Wars
The problem with all Star Wars stories that aren't the original trilogy and prequels are that it really downplays the accomplishments of those characters.
Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Han Solo are allowed to be the fucking legends of Star Wars who can get away with "one man army" type heroics in the face of inexplicably bad odds, but it outright offends me to see newer characters and made up characters in these video games doing the shit they do.
Would literally be like if they did a spin off series of Dragon Ball and the new main character became as powerful as Goku. It would just be unbelievable.
>>343770197
>Unbelieveable
It's not real, anon.
>>343770583
As if you don't ever get passionate over fictional stories.
>>343769776
this
>>343770197
REMEMBER ME?
>>343759963
>they are "hard" because the environment doesnt make sense in a way that would make you look for the solutions in logical spots
You're supposed to make "sense" of the environment through EXPLORATION, not by the developers hand-holding you each step of the way. The fact that you can't find the "logical spots" is due your personal unwillingness and ineptitude to search for an alternative path or technique that enables you to progress through the level. Also:
>getting stuck on the Doomgiver Comm Center
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu-37pt9Y0g&t=550s
>>343770648
I do, but your word choice is silly. Also, new characters are allowed to do interesting things, why are those three the only ones allowed to do cool shit? Did you get mad when Lando blew up a Deathstar?
Also in Dragon Ball's case Saiyans being the only ones allowed to do anything is what fucking ruined it, Star Wars at least spreads the love around, even if I like Jedi more than anyone else.
>>343770672
Remember that Leia was close to sealing the deal with Luke instead in RoTJ. She only stopped because he told her they were related. Han only had Leia because Luke let him.
>>343762046
Fantastic tastes. Dark Forces was such a great game.
>>343770197
It's annoying when it happens in comics or novels, but in videogames it's kinda necessary since powerful characters usually translate into fun gameplay.
>>343763350
>Red Squadon
>>343771467
>they were called red squadron at the death star
Deepest lore.
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>>343770790
Yeah, and while I had fun playing it, I do think it's bullshit that Starkiller is such a powerful character. I suppose I do agree with >>343771421 's sentiment about it being a necessity for the sake of gameplay, but Starkiller's ability to pick up and throw things with the force was unreal. Appeared to be stronger than Vader and Yoda.
>>343770983
I'm mostly offended by The Force Awakens and the Rebels cartoon, Rei/Finn and Ezra's gang thwarting the Empire constantly is a huge slap in the face.
>>343771769
>>343771969
The Force Awakens I thought was okay. I really liked Finn and Rey and thought they carried the movie when it became a retread of ANH. I guess I'm different because everywhere I look in fiction I find writers who can't do anything interesting using "flawed" characters who suck at everything or are unlikeable assholes in an attempt to be "realistic" or "deep" so I didn't mind Rey being competent at shit. I liked Luke for the same reason.
As far as Rebels, I'm not opposed to the idea, but the writing isn't as good there, but it's a show for kids too I think, so I can't expect much.
I also can't take a nigga seriously when he has a slicked back pony tail and chin beard
>>343743417
why does he turn his lightsaber off when he's decapitated
>>343772279
>Everyone using lightsabers and guns
Yeah that's pretty accurate
https://youtu.be/k1_PeF8SIQM?t=7
>>343743521
>Bounty Hunter
>Starfighter
>Rouge Squadron
>Dark Forces
seriously nigger?
>>343772553
Because an active lightsaber lying around looks fucking dumb.
Yes, I'm looking at you, KotFE cinematic trailer.
>>343743731
>Kowaikian Monkey-Lizard.
nigga absolutely not
>>343750256
NIGGA
trusting the player to complete the game, while making a sick ass game like that IS good game design you contraprofessional shit lord
>>343774178
>designing a game badly is suddenly good design as long as you "trust in the player" to complete it
go kill yourself retard
outcast is hailed as a masterpiece by actual children who cant separate the individual elements of a game and instead just mongrel "durrr itsale good gaem"
TFU had a good OST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRr67OMIMJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvGatdHZHJE
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>>343775898
Kill yourself fatass nobody cares about your special snowflake indie games.
Also you're retarded. Learn how to play vidya, maybe a visual novel would fit you better.
>>343776104
>durrfatassurgamebuzzwordbuzzwordgitgudbuzzword
what?
![[Tipping Intensifies].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Tw5HlXE.jpg "[Tipping Intensifies].jpg")
>>343776210
>He unironically uses the term buzzword.
Again kill yourself faggot, calling words buzzwords is just an excuse and nothing more.
>>343743417Good work, Alpha 1! Secret Mission Objectives Complete, The Emperor will be pleased!
>>343743417
What Star Wars game lets me play has a person without Force Powers?
>>343744163
I have a save in Academy that thrusts me right into that Katarn Boss Fight. Shit is sooo good.
>>343767320
I remember him as Boone from New Vegas. He shouldn't feel bad.
>>343780317
Dark Forces and Shadows of the Empire come to mind. Also all the flight simulators.
Rouge Leader is still the tightest shit. Made me like Wedge as a character. IIRC, the EU says he was a more badass pilot than luke.
>>343743731
He looks nothing like one
>>343743417
Outcast is a pretty good game, but the best part of the game is the early levels before you get force abilities.
I just want another Star Wars pure first person shooter. A good one. Dark Forces had poor map design and a wonky engine (should have just used the Doom engine, ya silly buggers) and Republic Commando is a worthless COD clone piece of shit.
>>343743973
>blood mod
Looks ridiculous.
>>343744794
BANNERLORD WILL CHANGE THIS.
>>343743417
JK1-2
Xwing Alliance
Kotor
Yoda Stories
>>343763432
I played SWTOR and Mandalorians are the most boring spiritual traditionalist shits ever.
Give me a regular merc. in dank armor instead any day.
>>343784271
>COD Clone
You've never played Republic Commando, have you? If anything it's a Rainbow Six clone.
>>343743417
The two Battlefront games on PS2 blow them away.
>>343763383
>Jedi are shit, Sith are shit, Clone troopers are shit, the Empire is shit, Ewoks are shit
Why are you in this thread, faggot?
>>343764330
>bullet spongey enemies
>in a setting featuring functional armour and shields that negate energy weapon fire
>you use energy weapons
You don't know what bullet sponge means. Do you?
A bullet sponge enemy is when you insert ten .50 rounds into somethings face at point blank range and nothing happens.
And you obviously never played the game since using your squad is how you don't die.
>>343743417
Outcast had one of the best bot mutiplayers ever. There would be 10 bits in a mosh pit swinging lightsabers chaotically. I would jump in the middle and just smash. Loved that shit on GameCube, which btw had the best controller ever
>>343785978
>Infinite droids spawn from the droid dispensers
I've never understood why people said Republic Commando was like Rainbow Six. I liked the game, but it's nowhere even close to being like Rainbow Six.
>a decade of EA games
>>343743731
And you look like a nerf herder
>>343776210
>Again kill yourself faggot, calling words
Yo, just clicked the thread. Wanted to come in to tell you that Iwish you'd kill yourself.
>>343785978
m8, realism shooters are all the same to me. Regen health (oh, sorry shield, totally different.), slow movement, low weapon limit. focus on taking cover instead of movement based defence, constant reloading (in a STAR WARS game with blasters, fuck off)...
Don't care. COD is just the closest thing I have to compare it to, all these elements spell shit to me.
>>343763383
>Empire is shit
Please report to the local Governor to have your issue rectified
why is Jedi Outcast so fucking good, bros?
is it Kyle Katarn? the stellar gameplay? the hot tribal looking bitches who Kyle gets to choke out? dinosaur fallen jedis? trulies?
>>343787245
>in a STAR WARS game with blasters, fuck off
Tibanna Gasunderage
Also, sounds like you described Halo rather than COD.
>>343786753
>A bullet sponge enemy is when you insert ten .50 rounds into somethings face at point blank range and nothing happens.
and the droids take entire magazines from an assault rifle in republic commando, whereas in every piece of SW media they die in a few hits
>And you obviously never played the game since using your squad is how you don't die.
consider playing ghost recon if you think autocover there and come heal me is deep squad control
>>343787742
>autocover there and come heal me
You do know that isn't the extent of the commands, right? Surely you can't be that retarded. Stop confirming just how much you haven't played the game.
In none of the films do sbd's go down in only a few hits. Even in shitdom menace bd's take more than one hit. And it's rntirely possible to have your squad or yourself oneshot tough enemies.
>grenade positions, snipe positions, anti-armour positions and turrets all exist in the game for your squad or yourself to use.
Besides. You aren't using big cumbersome dl-15's the dc17 is the sw version of a subgun-cum-lmg its meant to unload a shitton of fire into something.
Because normal clones simply don't carry the breadth of ordnance the rc's do.
You're retardedly complaining that your weapon meant to take out shittily armoured/shielded swarms of enemies is bad at taking out the complete opposite.
The dumb is strong with you.
>>343788934
>haaa ure complaining that the game is shit but i can justify it with my fanfiction :^)
>>343789127
>fanfiction
>what is seen in the films and in clone wars etc.
Keep digging that hole deeper fuckwit.
>>343789315
Never saw a clone trooper unload 60 rounds into one super battledroid in any of the movies/ cartoons
>>343743521
>what is rogue squadron/leader
>what is star wars racer
Just admit youre a bad pilot.
>>343789654
>What is The X-Wing Series
>Not shooting shooting down Rebel fools in TIE Fighter
Just admit you fly on easy mode.
>>343789464
Thrn you never saw the section of gennidy cw's where the clone officer picks up the gatling blaster and mows down droids swarming his position using huge bursts to kill sbds.
And you never watched e3 where the clone commando jumps on the mini spoder droid and unloads full auto at point blank into its head to kill the fucker.
Just stop posting. Ffs. Everything you posts shows you never watched any sw let alone played any.
>>343789464
They also use different guns.
I.e. they have bull full length rifles instead of the equivalent of a carbine.
>>343743521
Nearly all the popular SW games are good and beyond that. You're gay.
>>343789880
>what is not listing every star wars game I like and me actually agreeing with you
>blood
>when lightsabers cauterizes the wound
>>343790029
Genndy can't be a used has a supportive point, it's intentionally over the top.
>>343790029
>w-waah s-stop
yeah spider droids are the exact same thing as normal battle droids
>>343790049
why try so hard to defend it? I completely forgot about shit like the magnaguards too, you probably run out of ammo from a weapon while trying to kill one of them
Im sure baffled no other SW game portrays the enemies like this since these masters here are convinced its the canon and correct approach
>>343790292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIzAaY2Jm-s
>6:40
What's that?
>>343790292
Retarded though it is, it actually happened in New Hope, so there's precendent.
>>343790461
Im not trying to defend anything, just pointing out that they ARE different guns.
So comparing them to the standard Clone weapons isnt entirely feasible.
not related, but does anyone know that indie sword fighting game in 3rd person with the really fucking weird mechanics?
>>343790461
Your entire point is about 'bullet sponge'
Mini spider droids certainly fucking qualify.
Especially since you're complaining your bullet hose gun made to wipe out swarms of normal bd's (which it does just fine) doesn't magically nuke enemies that are expressly designed and shown to the viewer or player as having much better armour or shields.
Fuckoff you brainless sperglord.
>>343790461
>magnaguards
>hosing them with straight dc17 instead of 'nades / sniper rounds / anti-tank or turrets.
Fucking hell. Just admit you've never actually played the fucking game ffs.
I just replaye The Force Unleashed and it's very underrated
>>343790670
exanima
>>343790670
Mount & blade?
