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Red-pill me on this shit /v/, if that's even a term anyone outside /pol/ uses.

I bought a month of the base game on Steam for $10, how does it stack up to WoW?
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You already bought the game you fucking idiot just play it and form your own worthless opinion.

Fuck, you fucking retards.
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>>343707227
>how does it stack up to WoW?

It's so diferent it can't be compared to wow. The only similarity it has with wow is that you have an exp bar and skills.
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>>343707895
"First post best post" needs to be rescinded.

In the face of constant shillery for Heavensward, I was just curious what it's like, and was hoping to glean some info on some fucks I might be able to play with later. Of course it's still my fault, though, huh.
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>>343708545
>In the face of constant shillery for Heavensward, I was just curious what it's like

Heavensward feels like a Main Line Final Fantasy.

If you don't like the game as MMO still have the chance you like it as a Final Fantasy.
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>>343708545

>"I was just curious what it's like"
>Buys the game
>Asks what it's like

What a fucking idiot.
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>>343708545
> first post
Good thing that rule doesn't apply here
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>>343708815

Anon, no, stop. It is not at all like a main line final fantasy. Not even fucking close.
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>>343708074
>started tanking in vanilla wow when thunder clap was battle stance only and switching stances removed all rage

>last time i played wow i just spammed it with cleave in defensive stance the whole time, never manually swapping targets and damn near fell asleep
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>>343707227
pretty good, just make sure you choose the right server or else you're gonna have a bad time.

I recommend playing on Exodus or Leviathan.
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>>343709047

Of course I was talking about the MSQ.


>>343709108

I played Vanilla and BC Warrior too. It was fun as hell back then. Now everything is mindlessly pressing the 2 aoe attacks you have. What a shame.
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>>343708545
Exactly, DONT BELIEVE THE WEEBSHITTER SHILLS

THIS GAME IS GARBAGE.

I don't even want to go in depth why, but essentially a) its filled with people who can't even play the videogame b) the JP devs are so out of touch, they keep making it like WoW, and trying to stretch out the thin endgame there is, and eventually pander to said retards by giving them endgame minus 1 endgame gear for being crappers in an easier method.
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Thordan Extreme was the most hype fight I ever done in a MMO
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>>343708074
more complicated doesnt mean better though,
all that dps rotations need to do is to keep you entertained enough
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>>343709274

The main story quest isn't like a mainline final fantasy either. You don't have any dedicated party members for one. If you want to bring up 'Adventuring with a group' as something being final-fantasy-esque then get the fuck out of here because nearly every single RPG does this you whore.
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Wowfags have no place in XIV.
This is a story driven jrpg that happen to have multiplayer.
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>>343709108
>>343709274
My WoD subscription just ended and I've had FFXIV on the backburner for a while now, so I'm just jumping in to see what it's like.

I played Burning Crusade for a little bit on my friend's account and god fucking damn it, it feels like Blizzard neutered the game. Just load up Dungeon Finder or LFR while in fucking Facebook-tier Garrisons, it's just not fun like it was.
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>>343709609

I was talking about how diferent they are.
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>>343709682
lmao

everything ffxiv is is because of WoW

its literally WoW reskinned in a way for weeaboos
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>>343709682

>Story driven

Is this how they can get away with everything else being absolute garbage?
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>>343709812
Must be why wowfugees just complain it's not enough like wow.
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>>343709682

WoWfags will never understand what's "to feel" while playing an MMO.
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>>343709873
that has never happened ever

if anything they complain that its too MUCH like WoW
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>>343709873
it's nothing like modern WoW

the combat system is more akin to the active mode ATB system from older final fantasy games but in 3D realtime instead of 2D.
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I'm stunned that this game has been out for so long, yet doesn't have a proper waypoint system for quests.
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>>343709812

>its literally WoW reskinned in a way for weeaboos

>Reskinned wow

Not even close...
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>>343710130
>if you add enough colors coming out of your ass it makes the combat look better!

face it

ffxiv has the worst combat out of any mmo ever
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>>343709980

>if anything they complain that its too MUCH like WoW

And that's why they cry so loud when dying at Titan's Landlside because they can't dodge FFXIV's AOEs in time. Pretty sure.

It would be a pleasure if you told us what features are so similar in both.
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>>343710287
if you are literally saying that ffxiv isn't like WoW then you are the most delusional person I have ever met
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>>343710206
or you could disable all the eye cancer effects in the options
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>>343710407
then I would see everybody standing around for almost 3 seconds doing nothing
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>It's a I never got past level 30 but I have a high opinion about the game episode
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>>343710365

Still waiting your list.
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>>343710130
is this supposed to be someone demonstrating high level ninja play, because that "rotation" triggers me hard
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>>343710495

How? Why? Only BLM and maybe some Healers have casts that long.
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>>343710504
I'm not going to bother speaking with someone so deluded. Go back to /r/ffxiv and suck on yoshis dick.

Keep on correcting that record
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>>343709974

>We will beat the boss with the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP!

Fucking nips I swear to God
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>>343707227
>I bought a month of the base game on Steam for $10
Kill yourself. Next time ask if a game is good before buying it
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>>343707895
First post best post
>>343707227
>t-tell me my opinion /v/!

end yourself
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>2.5s GCD
dropped, literally the slowest game I ever played.
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>>343709741
ffxiv follows the same retarded 'lets make all BiS gear obsolete on a patch day' route that ruined WoW though, also got the same tank/healer/dps trinity going as well also the rotations are kind of the same after all fantasy got more complicated rotation wich isnt all that great desu but in the end its all the same shit
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>>343710641

>"it's a wow reskin"
>"Ok....tell me why you think it's a wow resking"
>"WA WA WA NOT BOTHER SPEAKING WITH DELUDEDS REEEEEEEEEEEEE"
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>bahh why do I have to dps I'm a healer
>wahh the story is too long
>ahh why do I have to follow a rotation
Remove wowfugees.
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>>343709974
Blovar dieing at Wrath game was easily as much if not better 'feel' than that scub elf though
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>>343710763

None of those are exclusive to wowfugees. One of the biggest final fantasy nerds I know is a lazy healer shit who queues for crap because they know they can skirt by tossing a heal every 12 seconds.
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>>343710763
Did you know that a borderline top 500 guild in WoW can go over to ffxiv and become a top 10 guild in that game?
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>>343710703

>Literally posting a webm in slow motion

And the "2.5GCD" maimai has to end. Only Weaponskills share the 2.5GCD, the rest of skills are instant and can be done during that cd.
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Are servers kinda bad right now? Me and a few friends are losing connection, but maybe it's just our server (Mateus)
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>>343710001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDg44MVJLrw
compare to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rsWL6Z_NJE

is pretty accurate
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it does all the final fantasy stuff really well, so you can at least play it for that.
ARR kinda sucks dick but Heavensward MSQ as a whole is fucking amazing

all MMO stuff is terrible though
the classes are bland as fuck and cross-classing is nonexistent

the economy is the shittiest i think i have ever seen in the 15 years i've played MMOs

endgame is all dps-checks and 1-shot mechanics

crafting is useless because everyone cooks like 3 or 4 different foods and potions and everything else is vanity or ignored, there's probably a total of 20-30 recipes used in the game right now excluding the newest crafting/gathering sets which serve no purpose until there's a patch that justifies having such obscenely high crafting stats

it also seems like everyone who plays the game is mentally retarded and can't read tooltips

>>343710206
it's one of the many things in this game that could've been cool, but then it wasn't

the classes have a little diversity at 50 and then it's stripped away in the following levels to cap, the only things differentiating any of them are the stupid little homosexual gimmicks (NIN's naruto handsign combo shit, MNK having to move FUCKING EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME JESUS CHRIST, DRG keeping up it's buffs while trying not to get animation locked into puddles of shit and dying, etc)
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>>343710703
I wish it were slower. The sped up animations from 1.0 look like shit now.

Games where you're GCD locked aren't fun, anyway

>>343710970
Wow good job, you pointed out the joke!
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>>343710952

>Wowfugees try FFXIV
>Reach titan hard
>wipe
>wipe
>wipe again
>wipe


Nope dude. Wow players are SO used to play with DBM telling them what to do and when that they can't react in time to dodge any kind of aoe.

Just imagining my wowfag friends in Nidhogg Savage makes me cringe.
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>>343711234
Did you know that top WoW guilds went to ffxiv and found it so easy and boring that they quit within a couple months and went back to WoW
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>>343710001
>the combat system is more akin to the active mode ATB system
You do realize FFXIV was remade, right? It hasn't been anything remotely like ATB for 3 years now and even 1.0 wasn't that close.
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>>343710495
40+ every class has so many skills off GCD that combat moves incredibly fast. Try a Monk or Ninja with their crazy low GCD timers and it's almost a nightmare to keep up without messing up.

The only class that comes even close to what you speak of is BLM, but thats kind of the point of playing a BLM. Single heavy hitting attacks and AoE's.
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>>343710970
ahh, DRG the class where you need all the hotkeys just to do the basic dps rotation, you know having more buttons to press doesnt make it better, then again most of ffxiv classes suffer from skill bloat
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>>343711486
Don't respond to people who post that webm, they're shitposting.
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Questing and the main story quests are endless fetch quests. End game consists of a raid with 4 bosses which you'll never clear unless you luck out and find 7 other non-retards with the same schedule as you, and more importantly, a dress up glamour simulator.
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>>343711351
How could that possibly be the case when WoW hasn't had anything added to it's endgame in over a year?

Minus the Facebook integration every wowfag was waiting for.

But i'm sure they'll all be good goys and buy that new expansion.
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FACT: Nobody plays this game longer than 5 months at a time. Because it is so stale and boring. The game has absolute zero longetivity. How do I know? Because I've been shitposting about this game for almost 3 years and every couple of months old posters leave and new ones arrive to defend this game they just bought
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>>343710646
m8 the boss was already beaten.

This is just saving your friend with power of FRIENDSHIP.
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>>343711537
>End game consists of a raid with 4 bosses

Endgame now are 8 Turns in Alexander Savage.
Nidhogg Ex
Sephiroth Ex
King Thordan Ex
Ravana Ex
Bismark Ex

I count 13 bosses there.

ARR endgame had a fuckload of Ex primals and Bahamut Coil turns.
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>>343711802
single WoW raids have more bosses than ffxiv does in 2 years
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>>343711608

When was the last wow patch released? More than a year ago?
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>>343711802
>counting old content that no one does except for glamours and/or mounts.
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>>343711565
noone said that WoW wasnt shit aswell, but it doesnt make ffxiv any better
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>>343711902
WoW in its worse state is still better than ffxiv

isnt that sad
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>>343711857

Diferent games with diferent high end design. Now you are just yelling "bloodborne has more bosses than Fifa"
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>>343707227
It's alright. I never raided anything outside of group finder shit, so eh.
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>>343711109

>the economy is the shittiest i think i have ever seen in the 15 years i've played MMOs

How so? it may be a server difference but it's been one of the best I've seen.

>crafting is useless because...

And this is said until the next time it's really important and people whine about how hard it is to get crafting to top end in order to even attempt the shit, so they have to begrudgingly pay out the ass to crafting Jews.
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>>343711802
alex midas savage has been out since like march

if you've been doing it, you can ignore everything on that list, because all of the EX bosses are pretty much just catchup/vanity mounts and you guaranteed by now have the 245 weap and all 240 gear if you're going in every week
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>you fell for the raiding may-may
>barely anyone in this game raids
>the 1% that do will give up at the first sign of resistance (a3s, a6s pre-nerf)
>t's impossible to become part of the 0.1% circlejerk of skilled wowfugees that actually beat raids when they're relevant
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>>343712039
well both games are shit,
there happy now?
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>>343711461

>Try a Monk or Ninja with their crazy low GCD timers and it's almost a nightmare to keep up without messing up.

lol wut? The only shit you can do waiting for your weaponskills is to use those OGCD how the fuck do you mess that up?
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>>343712254
therein lies the problem

all MMOs are shit
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>>343711802
>implying anyone does gordias
>or ravana
>or bismarck
>or thordan
>or sephirot
I mean, why would they? Nidhogg and Midas Savage give objectively better gear because SE doesn't understand how to do horizontal progression anymore.
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>>343712005
every single ffxiv boss is a heavily colorized version of simon says
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are Sarganatanas and Faerie busy servers?
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>>343712215

Search for a Static.

That's it. Now you can raid.

>skilled wowfugees that actually beat raids when they're relevant.

This still has to happen. Some "Skilled wowfugees" are still stuck at Ifrit waiting for the DBM to tell them to move away from the aoe's
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>>343711234
Watch this bullshit and tell me it's easy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUaYmgSzkR4

Legit question, does WoW have anything as bullshit as this?
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>>343711750

Okay, you've got me there.
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>b4b 80secs
>internal release 60 secs
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reminder that the game developers copied a western game yet design the game with the japanese in mind even though they are a small section of the playerbase
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>>343712326
every game that caters to casuals becomes shit anyway add to that P2W crap and you got the modern MMO
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>>343711356
but it is, the current combat system is literally an active ATB clone but done in 3D and with a few tweaks (ogcds)
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>>343712437

It's not. Also it's the guide I used for that. That fucking SEXY voice she has man.

Still my favourite guide is Thordan's Ex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pZ5MfWpOTw

After 10 minutes of explaining all kind of bullshits she says "Now it's when things get tricky"
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Does anyone else find gathering and crafting more fun endgame than the rest of the game? Kind of gotten bored of playing all these homo-genius classes and have instead focused all of my efforts on the actual fun part of the game until my friends tear me away from that to help level their combat classes and jobs. Maybe this will get more fun once we get one more person for a complete 8-man group for raids, but I doubt it.
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>>343712437
literal artficial difficulty, it's just extreme simon says. same shit with increased hp and dps check
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>>343712289
Between positionals, self-buffs, support skills (e.g. Goad), dodging mechanics, Mudra's (for Nin) or keeping up Greased Lightning (For monk), maintaining DoT's and a shit ton more... you would be surprised. That's just some of the off-GCD shit, not including free damage skills and stuns (practically free damage).
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>>343710867
he is right you know, seems you are the little underage fag that parrots /v/ uninformed opinion
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>>343712432
Did you stop playing during ARR or why are you wailing about Ifrit (where you the one crying about Titan aswell)?
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>>343712764
i was in the same boat as you, but then i bought a bunch of houses when the patch dropped and now i'm bored again because that's all my money was good for.
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>>343712837
Not to mention some classes GCD becomes pretty fucking fast.
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>>343712652
No it isn't. If anything it has less in common with ATB than fucking WoW precisely because of the prevalence of oGCDs.

FFXI and 1.0 were much more similar because they involved building up TP to do skills rather than just spamming them every 2 seconds. If you want to see ATB in 3d, play FFXII, because that's exactly what it is.
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>>343712817
>mechanics are artificial difficulty

wew lad you're right, you should just stand there hitting the boss till one of you wins
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>>343712879
I have played this game longer than anybody here.

I could put on my wizard hat and if you couldn't recognize me then you haven't played this game longer than 4 months.
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>>343712363

someome halp
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>>343712880

Nope, but Ifrit and Titan are mandatory content for everybody and still people get killed there.

It's just fun as fuck doing the Primal Roulette and watching all those sprouts being killed by mechanics as easy as "watch aoe, move out of aoe".
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>>343712906
I'm just having fun gathering stuff for scrips so that I can gear up my gathering and crafting classes. Not sure I need more than one house, but I would love having one big one for the FC I'm in.
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it's only good if you love the idea of FF fanservice pandering out the ass

story is shit and you can't avoid it even if you just want to play it for the MMO stuff

and the MMO stuff itself is low tier trash anyway
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>'all your friends, linkshells and guildmates stop logging in because it's stale as fuck' the MMO
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>>343713030
i'm waiting for the screencap showing you've been subbed since 1.0 anon

that was a joke, nobody was subbed after the first month of that shit
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>>343713159
>>343713207
You guys are pretty dedicated, that posters count hasn't moved for a while now.
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>>343712817

>Boss mechanics are "artificial difficulty"

Dude, what?
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>>343713207
>tfw you've watched server population drop steadily since Heavensward came out


but i still log on fuck
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>>343713346
instead of actual difficult mechanics the difficulty is based around artificial hp boosts
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>>343713131

>sprouts

Fuck I watched a mentor last night eat shit from Titan (storymode). This braindead fuck was playing a monk and not only did they not do positionals, but this bitch was standing in the damn cleave. Didn't matter after a while since as soon as he jumped up they fell to their death.
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When are they going to remove it from the game
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>>343713319
I'm still here, reading everything and having a good chuckle at how devisive this game is apparently.

How are you monitering my activity here? IP checker?
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>>343713207
I quit for awhile, and so did a lot of my friends, but then we came back after 4? patches. It's fun to play every now and then, but I can't play this every month of the year.
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>>343713263

Not the same anon...but you can prove if you played 1.0 because your character has this tatoo on his back.
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>>343713010
you're retarded and wrong.
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>>343713263
Jokes on you, literally NO ONE was 'subbed' for the first month of 1.0.
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>>343713430
>instead of actual difficult mechanics the difficulty is based around artificial hp boosts


Hmmm...no? Every EX or Savage boss has more and diferent phases than the normal versions. And when I say "more" I mean A lot more.
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>>343713841
Damn what a good rebuttal. You have thoroughly btfo me, as the kids say.
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>>343713850
i said AFTER the first month, not BEFORE

here's a (You) for your trouble
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>>343713989
No one was subbed for many months after the game launched.
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>>343713430

Tell me how this boss is based around "artificial hp bosst"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWsvth8E_Pk
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>>343711351
Keep shilling wowfag, everyone knows this is not true
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>>343713973
such a retarded reply gets a retarded response
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>>343714147
Will they ever design a boss environment that isn't just a circular platform?
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>>343713989
see >>343713649
Or are you so new to the game that you haven't heard of Legacy accounts
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>>343714226
You have to play CONTENT before you get to endgame??? What kind of fuckery is this!
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>run out of thing
>stack on thing
>run through thing
>place thing here

can you guess which mmo's raid tactics i'm talking about?

its both wow and xiv
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>>343714304
do you have some kind of disease, anon?
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>>343714295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIdUR9r-Nqg
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Game is fine and all, been playing for a month an a half, doesnt feel like an mmo but then again, mmos are dead nowdays, communities are non-existent, what I dont understand is why SE decided to shoot itself on the foot by making all the content they worked on for like 3 years useless, right now im just rushing through HW msq so i can finally get to the "endgame", every single trial and dungeon consist of max lvl players doing their dailies, yeah SE, nothing is more fun than not doing anything and getting carried in every single game dungeon, im hoping things actually get fun after I finish HW.
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>>343707227
does it even run well on intel HD graphics. I will buy it if it does.
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>>343714295
They've done squares before. :^)

They don't want another T5 where an entire mechanics can be invalidated by going into a ditch. So it's going to be flat planes from now on.
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>>343713430
People still wipe to
>Titan Ex
>Levi Ex
>Ramuh Ex
>Coils 7, 9, 11
And that's all old content from pre-Heavensward
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>>343714456
Why would you think that?
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>>343714147
Do it once and you've done it forever. Add enough complicated names and overly annoying rainbow abilities and it'll seem complicated enough.
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>>343708074
I think this every time someone calls it a wow clone
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>>343707895
I wish this post was reinforced on /v/.
"What should I expect?" threads are so fucking worthless, especially when you've already bought the game.
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>>343714525
If you can't afford a 750ti how you going to afford the game+expansion+sub fee+cash shop treats for your toon?
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>>343714624
they're going to simplify everyone's rotation come 4.0 because m-muh PS4

just wait until october and see
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>>343708074
Yet a rotation of 4 abilities is still more fun that ffxiv because you have things like trinkets and other things that don't make it so linear.

ff13 is one of the most linear games in existence, next to the most linear game in existences. ff13

SE are hacks. People would do well to stop buying their games.
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>tfw WoWfags will finally fuck off once Legion comes out

Stop complaining about Final Fantasy shit in a Final Fantasy game on the forums you faggots.
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>>343714525
Probably, but try the benchmark just incase. http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/benchmark/download/

There's also a good sized trial now if you want to try that too.
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>>343714503
They tried to copy what WoW did but forgot that WoW is currently dying because people are bored.
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>>343709108
Forcing stance swapping to use your AoE is terrible game design fuck right off.
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>>343709675
You retards who think there is some ruleswt to FF have been btfonmutiple times now. How fucking much in denial are you?
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>>343713085
No idea about Sarg but Fairie is somewhat popular, you should be aware its the unofficial LGBT server though.
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>>343714736
i used to play it on ps4. just wondering if it works on hd3000 graphics.
>>343714996
yeah the trial doesn't work if you already have an account on another console
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>>343707227
Report to minifilia at the walking sands.
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>>343714960
but xiv fags didnt fuck off from wow threads when heavensward launched anon

accept the vicious cycle of mmo banter
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FFXIV is the Hillary Clinton of MMOs.

It's outdated, stale, a copy of another thing, its supporters are braindead drones, and it's full of shills that defend its vast criticisms.
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>>343715305
So what's the Bernie Sanders of MMOs?
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>>343715184

If there aren't rules to final fantasy how the fuck does a game 'feel like a mainline final fantasy' then you piece of shit?
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>>343715295
Anon, even wowfags just complain about their game in every wow thread, it's fucking depressing to see
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>>343715461
tree of savior
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>>343715495
at least they recognize that their game is flawed and needs improving, unlike the people here.
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>>343714428
The problem is that the storyline content for XIV is abysmal. The dungeons are alright but the MSQ stuff is the worst RPG plot ive seen in ages with tacked on fetch quests, pick up shiny object quests, and walk across the continent to talk to one person then report back to the Waking Sands quests.

I say this as someone who is actively still playing. The beginner leveling needs a revamp, but Yoshi's proposed boost potions arent the answer either. Too many key features are hidden or neglected, too many of the introduction quests are dull until 50, and the group gating while good for an MMO suffers especially for DPS players.
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>>343715503
But it's young and not honest at all about what it was trying to do.
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>>343715495
at least wowfags own up to their game being shit
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>>343710703
how can people stand playing this slow ass game
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>>343715656
>the worst RPG plot ive seen in ages
Yeah no, you're not going to get me to agree with you.
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>>343714960
So what will be left? The edgy weeaboos who can't even fucking play the game? I don't know if the WoWfags can play either, but people I'm grouped with act like they've never touched a game before in their lives.
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>>343708074
Do you have one image like this for NInja

I want to know if I'm optimal. I'm pretty sure I am but still.
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>>343715637
that's even more sad anon, at least we enjoy the game we play, wowfags behavior just screams retardation and brain damage, maybe faggotry too since they seem to enjoy getting cucked by blizzard
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>>343708545
First post is best post is as true as it's ever been, as is "OP is a faggot"
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>>343715824
Stop playing on NA servers then.
Americans after 3 years still don't understand Alliance raids and how they're set up for boss encounters.
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>>343715824
Before Heavensward we were doing fine, then the expansion came and wowfugges brought their mediocrity
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>>343715809
Alright fine I exagerrated but its extremely cliche as far as JRPG plots go. The pacing is cripplingly slow, the twists are predictable, the power levels are predictable, and until Heavensward almost everyone has plot armor.
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>>343708074
Why are people from /u/ talking about FFXIV rotations?
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>>343716306
Does it really surprise you that a lot of gay people like FFXIV? Heck, there's even a /d/ general thread for this game.
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>played by myself
>leveled BM to 60
>all that time I kept telling myself "Maybe this will get better"
>It gets far worse
nigga I cant even stay at the edge of my cricle this is gay af and the renewing enchoian is fucking dumb
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>>343715809

Okay GW2's is slightly worse, I admit. But other than that it's hard to find any others that are that horrid.
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I just got the trial and I'm going to make a throwaway character in case I don't like the game.
Any recommendations for a dumb looking character to make?
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>it's a controller player with the reaction time of a grandpa that need macro to do anything episode
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>>343716464
Most BLM agree that the rotation at 50 was much better even though it was simpler. The 60 rotation has way too much management and restrictions that make it an inefficient nightmare on fights with heavy movement or boss invuln phases.
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>>343716770
>>343716464
get fucking gud. BLM requires you to know the fight to maximize their DPS. If you go in blind, you will fuck up.
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>>343716590
Male cat with short orange hair, eyes pf different color, the ugliest tiniest tail and the most annoying voice you can find, also make him huge as fuck with no muscles
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>>343716464
I love that they made targeted AoEs with the precise radius of your ley lines' diameter. Makes it impossible, even if you stutter-step, to not lose DPS when targeted by such mechanics.
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>>343716602
>It's an episode episode meme
>needing macros on a controller
You sound like you're projecting, wouldn't expect anything more from /tv/ cross posters.
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>>343711902
That Warlords of Draenor line isn't even close to right
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>>343716907
>If you go in blind, you will fuck up.
this doesnt stop the boss from taking a shit on your leylines or at the moment you need to refresh
and no I will not mana X to eat the damage
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>>343716907
You can know the fight all you want but if the fight is movement heavy even if you know the mechanics order you're still a DPS liability compared to most classes.
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>>343717286
>>343717260
you plan your cooldowns appropriately, every boss mechanic is on a strict timer. it's your fault that you lose leylines just as the boss is about to do his scripted aoe attack. as I said, get fucking gud.
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>>343717286
>>343717260

Just suck it up. BLM already do top tier single target damage barely trying.
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>>343717715
No im literally saying if you go into say Sephirot as BLM I dont care if you play perfectly you wont be close to the other jobs unless they play terribly. Its impossible if everyone is playing equally, and this happens on many HW encounters.
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post >tfw you still haven't completed thordan
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>>343717868
I'm always top BLM dps in sephirot EX, the whole fight is fucking scripted simon says. Don't pop your shit when he's about to do something that requires you to move.
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>>343717868

Ohh I get it.

You're just shit at BLM.
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Should I?
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>>343719293
Do you want to be a massive faggot? Then sure.
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>>343713013
It's artificial since 99% of it is scripted and you just need to learn it. It's like one of those cheesy modded mario levels with bullshit gimmicks and invisible blocks that you have to die once to to learn.

Add a pair of those A7S rolling balls to every fight in the game and have them up 100% of the time, the fights might actually begin to approach a challenge then.
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>>343719293
>burger king crown
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>>343717913
>tfw I beat thordan before echo was added
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>>343719293

May as well. Pretty much every single mentor I've seen has been one of the worst players I've ever encountered.
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>>343715461
is wow trump?
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>>343717913
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>Just have fun chopping down trees
>Never raided or even got that far in the story

It doesn't look like I'm missing out.
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>>343719964
Jokes on you though; you were subscribed during 3.1.

I was too, but there were literally no learning parties on the day and weekend of the patch so I just said fuck it and never bothered. Haven't done sephirot either; nidhogg I did but the farm parties were a worse mess than the already horrendous learning parties, so I still don't have a horde weapon. Still using an i210 and I've subsequently unsubscribed.
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| | this far from lvl 40 BLM and I'm fairly excited still for end game. I am most interested in PvP.

(I'm having genuine fun)
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ff14 is best mmo on the market right now, I don't understand how any other MMO can compete.
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FUKKEN CASULS GET OFF MY SERVER
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>>343722123
Ew, gross I hate casserole. : ^)
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>>343721157
what server familia
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>>343720005
>I'm jealous I don't have a crown so I'll call everyone who has one a shitter
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>>343714525
game will work, but don't expect it to play well on a shitty integrated GPU.
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>>343722939
Auscunt, so Tonberry.
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>>343710970
whoever this character is sucks as a dragoon
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>>343724354
>Aus
I am so sorry anon
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>>343712764

This is all I do now. Well I am doing my relic but other than that its all crafting and gathering. I'd love to raid but after trying for months I've given up on finding 7 other people who:

>Have a similar schedule to me
>Aren't already in a group
>Aren't complete shit at the game

I'm pretty much waiting on deep dungeon now. I'd probably have quit if not for that. I hope it isn't terrible.
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I don't even know why some of the nidhogg weapons even exist considered how useless half of them are
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>>343726106

Give people an option to gear up.
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>>343707227
It's shit, don't bother.
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>>343726456
the horde weapons are better than the lore weapons

don't have to grind a8 for 7 weeks or bust your balls doing a6s
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>>343717913

Yeah I've pretty much been avoiding endgame like the plague. Nidhogg was fun though. Thats honestly probably the toughest thing they've had as part of the MSQ.
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>>343726874

Chrysalis prenerf was pretty 'brutal', as spark used to do 3k instead of 2 so a tank couldn't mitigate it all by themselves, and the Tear had twice the health
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>Become gatherer
>Get to level 60
>Have to get 297 rowena tokens for uncover folklore areas
>That's 14850 blue scrips

Fuck me in the ass senpai
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>>343727042

>They nerf it to Hell
>Groups still fuck up
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>Started playing a week ago with my buddy
>I picked Lancer and he picked the Pugilist
>mfw waiting for a tank and healer in all the dungeon things for the main story
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>>343727146
It doesn't seem too bad when the favorite thing of the day is super easy to get. I love getting 150 scrips for one morel. With 3 per gathering attempt, that's only about 300 gathering times. Too bad I've been using all these scrips to gear my newly leveled miner or else I could have easily had all of those unlocked today.
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>>343727520

>tfw not a single gathering item in the list is a favoured item
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>>343713531
>steps nerfed to hell ages ago
>you still fail it
Anon, have you ever considered that you're just completely shit?

Every one I get into, I make sure 2 people are on cannon duty and one on Dragonkiller spear and I've yet to have any issues.
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>>343727413
>starting with lancer

I made the same mistake. Eventually powered through to the fun of flying around as DRG but that mid game "rotation" was fucking stupid.
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>>343728318

mentor approved strat:

>1 tank 1 heal on cannons
>ignore towers
>dps all on boss
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Bot WoW and XIV get stale if you play them for long. And considering they're MMO's that's going to happen eventually. To me, it all comes down to aesthetics. I like FFXIV far more because I like how it looks. The gear, the music (based Soken), the visual spectacles when doing fights for the first time, and the story post 2.5.

Saying you got tired of an MMO after playing it for so long is like complaining that you got sick after eating too much
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>log in
>refresh retainers
>log off
Be my friend
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>>343728183
Is it different for each server, or do you just not have multiple gathering classes leveled? If you don't have at least mining and gathering leveled to cap, you should do that because it gets fun going from one unspoiled node to the next right after.
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>>343728318
>have you ever considered that the 7 with you were just completely shit
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>>343728530

I have all 3 gathering classes at 60. There's not a single item with a star next to it.
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>>343728627
Well that sucks. I guess it is different for each server. Hopefully the next day gives you something favored because I'm drowning in blue scrips and it's great.
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>tfw XIV will never be considered real Final Fantasy
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>>343728520
Go onto Gilgamesh and whore yourself out in Idleshire like all the cool kids. Don't forget to go to /ffxivg/ everyday as well and avatarfag asking how cute your cat/lizard/roe is!
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how easy is it to make a char on balmung and find erp?
ive never done it before but heard ffxiv was the place to go to learn
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>>343728741

Yeah well I just converted 17 red gathering tokens into 68 blue tokens so what do you think about that nigga?
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>>343728902
Limsa is where all the 500+ FC leaders hang out and the tree is where all the cool kids and orbiters wanting to be part of the clique swarm.

No exceptions it's like this on any server.
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>>343729159

Why limsa of all places?
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>>343729105
That's kind of tempting, but I need those reds for my offhands.

>>343729159
Is it really Limsa? I guess that place is pretty damn laggy as well, but Idyllshire almost breaks my computer. It hurts that I have to go there for so many things now yet everyone wants to sit in this one little area ERPing with each other in /say.
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it's fun. just play it until you get bored. even if it's a game you only play for a month or two, it's a good time regardless. honestly how many games even keep you entertained for a month unless you just aren't playing them that much?

people are such babies about MMOs these days. if you get bored with a game, unsub. nobody's holding a gun to your head to keep you from doing so.
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>>343729303
Closer to the market board so everyone goes their for convenience. I always go to Old Gridania for my crafting/MB needs, quiet and doesn't have people having conversations in shout chat for the whole area to see.
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palace of the dead fucking when holy shit

https://a.pomf.cat/yjkhab.ogg

also it actually might not have anything to do with Edda which will piss me off if it doesn't.
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>>343729303
Marketboard is literally a few steps away from the Aetheryte, most new players can start off in that town so perfect for ERP alts, and it's the only town that isn't a shithole lore wise.
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>>343729432

Ah, I keep forgetting poor people don't have houses.
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>raided in 2.0 all the way to t13 when it was relevant
>static breaks apart because 3 people didn't get Heavensward

>new static for gordias; starting 4 weeks late because we had to keep replacing people
>beat a1s and a2s, potato scholar transfers servers without any warning
>rather than rep 1 person, group disbands

>new static for Midas
>beat a5s and almost beat a6s
>different potato scholar transfers servers without any warning
>group disbands rather than replace 1 person

It's like poetry. It rhymes

Incidentally, what is your least favorite race/job combination? Mine is Lalafell and Scholar.
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>get gatherers and crafters to 55
>can finally get scripts
>only a few items give any and only 20-50
Fuck that
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>>343728318
I had a group get it to 50% before he even reached the first ward the other day.
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>>343729159
i've noticed that on most servers but on Balmung it's always seemd like Ul'dah is the most populous city
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>>343729535

Elezen/anything, but especially tanks. They without fail end up being the shittiest players ever.
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>>343729303
several reasons

1: It's the first teleport on the list
2: the market board is right next to the main aetheryte
3: other amenities (Grand Company, Inn room) are easily accessed by the Aftcastle aetheryte

people will say Ul'Dah because the GC is right next to the main aetheryte, but that aetheryte itself is in an annoying location and the market board has to be teleported to and then loaded from another area. Then there's just the rest of Ul'dah in general.
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>>343729535
Catboy healer.
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people say they hate this game and it's shit, but 9 times out of 10 they have already invested more than 1000 hours into the game.
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>>343729535
catboy tank
alternatively, catboy dragoon
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>>343727413
Have fun while you can, once you get to end game it becomes more of a second life type of game rather than having shit to do.
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>>343730047

>it becomes more of a second life type of game

Oh I fucking wish it turned into a sandbox.
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>>343727413
are you in the novice network? just ask tanks or healers in there if they want to party up. often or not there are people the same level as you in there.
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>>343727413
get marauder (guild at limsa) or conjurer (guild at gridania) and level it up to level 16 so you can access dungeons. believe me, you'll get into duties SO much faster than you ever will otherwise. it's the difference between waiting 3 to 5 minutes or 30 to 60 minutes for duty finder
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>>343729535
As a Lalafell Scholar main, I apologize on behalf of my people.

As for the question, I'd say Female Roes in general. My only exposure to them is from that dumb NPC in the MSQ that died and this game's general on /vg/.
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>>343729637
>Vishap is several times larger than Nidhogg, only being dwarfed by Midgardsormr himself
>despite this, he is Nidhogg's subordinate
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>>343729974
I always fall for trailer hype, that's my excuse.
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>>343730273
yea but they wont level up the jobs they want retard
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>>343729575
Pretty worth getting those collectables for the mondo XP alone. The scrips are just a bonus at this point.
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>>343730303
Female roes are a close second for me. My old fc leader was a femroe who made is donate gil to the fc chest if we wanted to rank up. A different femroe in my next fc got really upset when our static would do anything at all without them, even if we were already doing it when they logged in

i don't know what it is about MMOs that turn people into shitbags.
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