>"'BioShock Infinite' is not being remastered on PC because it already meets current-gen console standards and runs smoothly on high visual settings," the developer wrote on Steam.
Ken Levine basically confirming that the BioShock Infinite """remaster""" isn't actually adding anything we haven't already seen to the table, just bringing consoles to the same visual fidelity as the PC version. What are your thoughts on this, /v/?
>>343698125
>BioShock Infinite' is not being remastered
>BioShock Infinite """remaster"""
dumb faggot cunt OP
Good. Infinite was objectively shit.
>>343698125
I could already tell the "remaster" looked exactly like what I already had
>>343698501
Is this the remaster or modded BS1? I have it on PC and it definitely never looked that good for me.
sour grapes much ?
>>343698125
>that face
what the fuck does he even do these days?
>>343698649
Probably cause you didn't play it on a 4k monitor like that anon did.
>>343698669
>tumblr
>>343698310
>Good. Infinite was objectively shit.
Are you serious? It was an all around great game and I don't know many people who would argue against that. You probably just didn't understand the story or found the combat too hard.
>>343698649
nope vanilla max settings Bio and that scene is ruined when you can notice how the skybox is a laughably close flat texture a stone's toss away from the lighthouse, really needed some fog to hide that shit. I think they didn't expect you to turn around, being all distracted by the lighthouse
>>343698125
So they are just selling the game again for consoles for full price.
The best part is that consolefags are going buy it anyway. Also smells like outsourced chink port.
>>343698291
They're remastering the entire series, you dolt.
>>343699169
well... SS2 is going to be left out in the cold for a while but it already has mods that are way better than an official would get anyway
>>343698501
remaster looks better but good try tard
>>343699325
>plot twist: that's actually the PC version
>>343698125
And? Infinite is, by far, the worst game in the series. Who the fuck cares?
>>343699689
You cared enough to reply, so there's that. Thanks for the bump by the way, can you do it again?
i want bs2 comparisons out of all the games its the one is most need of at least a texture overhaul
>>343699985
Really? It's the same UE 2.5 1 ran on but improved. Has less texture pop issues and looks slightly better overall while being mostly the same visually
>>343698310
I don't think it was complete shit but it was definitely the weaker of the three.
>>343698857
>You probably just didn't understand the story
Are you joking?
>found the combat too hard
The enemies stand out in the open like retards shooting at you. Now I know you're definitely joking.
Why does he look so confused in the new version?
>>343700472
Was the original version better?
>>343700472
he bet on Duke
>>343700753
Yes. His face was more intimidating in the original version. He looks goofy as fuck in the new one.
>>343700472
>mustache is gone
i guess cutting those 6 polygons really increased performance!
>>343700472
>>343700753
First the Arkham games, now this.
Why do """""remasters""""" look so bad?
>>343700753
I'll give them credit the gold texture actually looks better than the muddy bronzish of the old one, the model is worse though
>>343698857
>bullet sponge
>2 weapons
>shitty upgrade system
>CONSTANT AND VARIABLES
>Waifu daughter that you expect to fug at the end
>supposed to be this racist place but ends up being pretty great aside from people joking about "black coffee"
>unimaginative guns
here's a (you) though
>>343700753
No because that facial expression is not fitting for a statue any statue
>>343700472
This is how a statue of Andrew Ryan would look like
>>343700472
>>343700753
Not even just the statue, check out that brick wall texture in the background. They made it look worse.
>>343701568
I have a feeling that a Randian statue wouldn't be a giant bust glaring down at you at all but a freestanding full scult heroically posed, either looking up (but not at the heavens) or straight ahead. But then again Ryan is a shit Objectivist.
>smuggling in a free economy
>>343698125
who cares about that shitty game anyway?
>kick-kicksstarted reMASTER master master done in Unity. It isn't befitting of a goddess
Neat, if you own the PC version of 1 and 2 you get the remaster for free.
>>343701618
The texture is actually a lot better, they replaced the specular map with a material shader for stone or concrete so a lot of the implied detail from the shininess is lost.
Still, the original wall is flat as fuck compared to the new one.
>>343701262
the statue should be deteriorated and muddy looking, its not like there's anyone around anymore that can go polish it and keep it shiny.
>>343702242
Yeah, I made sure to pick up Bioshock 1 for $4 before the sale ended cause of this.
>>343701165
Thankfully the Arkham remaster was postponed indefinitely.
>>343698125
He looks like your stereotypical kike drawn by Ben Garrison.
>>343702325
>Lighthouse groundskeeper remains last sane and most loyal citizen of Rapture, dutifully shining the statue as his paychecks arrive by pnuemo
I hope Minerva's Den gets some of this shameless cash in attention too, great DLC but the environments were fairly dull recycled assets
So this costs 60 bucks? What do I gotta pay to have them keep everything except Bioshock 2 and Minerva's Den out?
>>343702713
If you own it on PC (on Steam), you get the remasters for free.
If you own it on consoles, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>343701776
relaxed and confident expression not looking up heroically or looking down at you
>>343702810
well, a heroic (in a Howard Roark sense) confidence, the essence of the "Mr Superman" scene
>>343698310
I usually like a lot of games /v/ hates like Vanilla Skyrim, Fallout 3 and 4, Uncharted series and such. But Infinite sucked major dick. It was a bullshit mess. I can ignore a bad story if the gameplay is okay, it was not, it was shit.
>>343699284
SS2 ISN'T BIOSHOCK YOU DENSE FUCK
>>343703593
Shock is the series anon
>>343698680
fuck his elizavbeth body pillow
>>343703673
No, fuck you. Just because that works with Souls doesn't mean it also works here.
>>343698125
>same visual fidelity as the PC version
>1080p
>probably zero anti-aliasing except FXAA
>no AF
>>343703973
iirc AA options in original Bio are shit too
>>343702305
What kinda of bullshit answer is this?
The reason things looked reflective in the old one is because it's a goddamn underwater base; of course things are going to look slick and specular.
The reason there's a boring brick wall in the new one isn't because the developers thought, "hmm, this texture could really use an upgrade" and replaced it. No, they replaced it because whatever stupid engine they use for the remaster can't replicate the effects.
Dead Island remasters had the same butchery going on. In fact, most remasters do. If you're playing on a PC, there's absolutely no reason to ever get these dumb remasters.
>>343704109
but anon, you can have mods!
>>343704263
fuck the mods and fuck the police, i don't want to see nude loli little sisters
>>343704263
>full power
>>343698125
Levine is not involved with Bioshock collection, he just gave his commentaries for the commentary track
>BioShock Infinite """remaster"""
Read the paragraph you quoted retard, Infinite is not being remastered. It's "Bioshock Collection" with remastered 1 and 2
>>343704263
>Bethesda still trying that shit after the mess that was FO4 console mods
also unless they make it easy to convert older skyrim mods onto the "remastered" edition why would anybody bother with modding it?
>>343704543
>Read the paragraph you quoted retard, Infinite is not being remastered.
It would seem you should do the same. It's being "remastered" for consoles as part of the bundle.
>>343701165
Outsourced ports.
Chinks port the entire stuff for cheap. And maybe steal your engine too.
>>343704649
no to derail from bioshock but
>SKSE and SKYUI never ever
>80% of mods won't work
>CBBE, FNIS, and loverslab never ever
>>343698680
Unannounced narrative driven project that's not Bioshock, it has smaller team and is not AAA.
>>343704689
It's being ported you stupid retard, it changes platform but not the content
>>343704975
Yes, it's being ported but they're calling it a remaster. That's why I've been putting the word "remaster" in quotes. Seriously, how dense are you?
>>343698857
the story was okay, it tried interesting things but it was doomed from the fact that it had to come after the great stories in bioshock 1 and 2
the combat though? nigga are you fucking SERIOUS? EVEN IN 1999 MODE OR WHATEVER IT WAS CALLED THE COMBAT WAS SHIT
like NIGGA every single tonic was garbage and it was way more efficient and enjoyable just to shoot the fuckers, and every gun felt like ass and the level design was a major step down from the series.
>>343704849
nice
left irrational to make even shittier games sasuga Levine
>>343705141
How do you even manage to make a C96 and a saw attached to your hand boring?
>>343698857
this is bait
>>343702452
>postponed indefinitely
wait what, source?
>>343704263
>full power
>>343705431
https://www.engadget.com/2016/06/28/batman-return-to-arkham-delayed-indefinitely/
1 = 2 >>>>>> Infinite
To be fair, I actually really enjoyed Infinite, but it's inferior to the previous two in almost everyway. I wish the Bioshock name wasn't attached to it either.
>>343705587
Good, WB just keeps fucking up. After the shit they pulled with Knight they still haven't learned. The ''''''''remaster''''''' was looking hilariously bad.
>>343705828
2 > 1 >>>> Infinite
>>343705828
1 = Better atmosphere, levels and story
2 = Better gameplay
I dunno which to pick. I found Infinite terribly boring and dumbed down as fuck though.
>>343706067
That's why they're equal to me.
>>343705828
Burial at Sea was fucking great though. I just wish they had made more connections to the original two in the main game.
>>343698857
>You probably just didn't understand the story or found the combat too hard.
>>343706216
Also, am I the only one who actually misses the wrench? That was my main weapon in the first one.
>>343706216
The entire game should've just been Burial at Sea. (But, you know, longer.)
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2uatnYa.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>343706375
it is tradition (although a pipe has greater historical precedent)
>select all images that contain lighthouses
>>343705916
they're getting Ubisoft levels of bad
>>343706576
If you aren't using text captcha you need to fuck off. >>>/r/eddit is that way
>it took this long for journos to get Infinite is shit
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-07-03-three-years-on-how-does-bioshock-infinite-hold-up
>>343706216
>>343706375
>>343706547
Burial at Sea was great... until they completely fucking changed Daisy's motives.
It went from showing that revolutions aren't black and white. There are fucked up situations on both sides. Into she dinidu nuffin wong.
![ayn_rand_the_virtue_of_selfishness[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fIsFOnL.jpg "ayn_rand_the_virtue_of_selfishness[1].jpg")
>>343706547
>empathy
triggered
they pay some lip service but none of them have actually read this shit, have they?
>>343706730
That's a good boy, let it all out. I bet you really feel like you fit in after this post, don't you?
>>343706156
Jeez Louise I didn't know it was this bad
I can just get 1 and 2 with all the DLC's in one pack for a cheaper price. Who cares if it has last gens graphics? It's not like this remaster is going to vastly improve anything.
>>343706156
That bioshock map isn't bad. It's actually great level design. since there is many levels to it.
Bioshock is also far more fun and interesting then SS series. Point proven with infinite.
>>343708271
>Bioshock is also far more fun and interesting then SS series. Point proven with infinite.
Opinion discarded.
>>343707764
you get the remasters for free if you own BS1+2 on steam
and the BS1 port is ass, so this may or may not be it's saving grace
>>343708454
it runs flawlessly 200+fps in 4K on my machine senpai, have you tried checking to see if the toast is done?
It's Unreal 2, what problems you have with it?
>>343706928
Ken Levine probably read the cliff notes version of Atlas Shrugged
>>343708727
>trains be running like shit yo
>le wacky oil man burns it all down
>my wife is a bitch boy I loves metal
>everyone hold the fuck up for the next 70 pages, I have something to say
>something something capitalism wins
>>343698125
>>343708564
not that you idgit. I mean it's just a shoddy port
some people can't run it at all, like it just won't start for them, and you have to edit files to turn off mouse acceleration and such.
>>343708441
It's true though.
>>343708454
>playing on PC
Bioshock isn't a must play on PC. I bought it on Xbox.
>>343708925
That's basically Ayn Rand's writing style
>really good beginning
>hair pulling out boredom and tedium for the next 1000 pages
>decent enough ending
>>343699169
They're remastering Bioshock 1 and 2, not Infinite you fucking tard.
>>343709264
it just wurks for me
>>343698857
>You probably just didn't understand the story
Not this shit again.
>Infinite is so perfect it doesn't even need to be remastered
>>343709440
same for me bro, but i'm simply stating that the port is shit.
>>343698125
>What are your thoughts on this, /v/?
That this is basically the same as every '''''''remaster''''''
>>343702452
>indefinitely
We will never hear from it again, will we?
>>343709301
Infinite was the worst and most shallow game in the -shock series.
>>343709407
They're ""remastering"" Infinite for consoles, and by "remastered" they mean high settings. You are stupid.
>>343706547
They were on point with communism toh.
>>343709837
They're changing textures and lighting too for some reason. See >>343700753
and >>343700472
>>343710091
That's the first game though, friend.
>muh rand
>>343710128
Have they said the others will just be on high?
>>343710251
No, 1 and 2 are legit remasters that actually change shit while Infinite is just high settings for consoles.
What's wrong with Bioshock Infinite?
>>343710369
Will they be 60fps for consoles?
>>343710417
the answer is 0451, there can we stop having this fucking thread every goddamn day
>>343706928
Nobody ever should because it's fucking trash. Rand is laughably terrible.
>>343710550
Sure they will if they make them in glorious 900p
>>343709335
>>hair pulling out boredom and tedium for the next 1000 pages
This is the whole book
>>343698125
I love this exaggerated quote shit. Let's me know who to ignore and when to start spamming anime images.
>>343698125
I already figured this, considering they said you needed to own 1/2/Minerva's Den to get them on PC. Infinite was absent from the requirements.
>>343698857
it was a good story but the gameplay was overall a step down from the previous two games
>>343711161
>it was a good story
>>343711161
The story was the most pretentious plot-hole ridden mess ever.
>>343711427
we may have went too far in a few places... Elizabeth is the key to all of this, if we get Liz workig, cuz she's a more whimsical character than we've ever had, then the game could work
>>343698125
Is Ken Levine a shallow emotionless businessman? I'll let you decide
but the answer's yes
>>343711949
It's stylistically designed to undersell
>>343698310
It was fun
>>343703754
If you think Bioshock isn't a steampunk consolified version of SS2, you might be an actual retard.
>>343706004
I can agree with this, I have a soft spot for 2.
>>343702801
Not fair!!! REEEEEE!!!
>Bioshock Infinite Season Pass costs more than the actual game
>>343698857
https://youtu.be/l_u18_BKczg
>>343706067
>being this objectivelyright
>>343712785
They're nothing alike, and if you actually played SS you'd know that. If you even considered for a second associating SS with a trainwreck like Infinite, you need to hang from a tree.
>>343706156
SS2 maps were ridiculous to read.
>>343713512
how do you suck at reading a map?
>>343706067
Infinite was a massive disappointment, it's nothing but shooting galleries with mediocre mechanics.
>>343712785
>steampunk
>>343713512
Yeah, I had such a hard time going back to SS2 because of the map that I just memorized every corridor and didn't even fuck with the map.
What's the Bioshock 1 and 2 remaster gonna be like? Probably just a texture pack?
>>343698310
The story was awsome but the mouse control got fucked up because the devs were sucking console dicks
>>343715084
The story was worse than the shitty gameplat
>>343698125
Give BS1 the gameplay from 2 and I'll be happy.
>>343713620
>all floors of one level stuffed into one map >pointless outlines of the ship looked like they were connecting rooms or names
>harsh contrasting colors
>texture underlay just gives your eye more shit to sort through
>>343698125
What kind of haircut is that?
>>343715978
The JUST.
>>343715978
a deliberately seemingly messy one that has come in style with modern males
>>343700472
looks terrible the wall behind looks flat no specular
>>343700753
looks better overall for a almost 10 year old game running ue2.5 very fucking impressive
Who cares about Bioshock when System Shock already exists?
>>343706067
>better story
Will Bioshock 2's multiplayer be included in the remaster?
>>343718221
Sadly no.
>>343718379
>>343719542
Was the multiplayer even necessary? A game like Bioshock shouldn't have one.
>Want to give money to the remake
>Afraid that they're going to change the music for worse and add forced rpg elements.
>>343719748
No it wasn't necessary, but it was fun.
>>343713472
I was talking about SS2 and Bioshock, not SS and Infinite. You are a retard.
>>343719793
>not buying the original versions from the steam sale and getting it for free
>>343713678
>"b-but it's not steampunk if it's not muh Victorian era! We need one million -punk subsets to satisfy my autism!"
There's Cyberpunk originally, and then steampunk after. That's it. Everything fits into that.
>inb4 muh diselpunk
literally anyone who uses the term dieselpunk deserves to be crucified as a spergy faggot.
>>343720778
I'm talking about the System Shock remake, forgot to quote this anon >>343717449
I already have Bioshock on my PC.
>>343720854
It's waterpunk.
>>343719748
It was developed by an entirely separate team, and quite honestly was one of the best multiplayer experiences ever in its heyday. It just kinda isn't great now that the playerbase has fallen off of the face of the earth.
>>343720901
The remake looks interesing, but I just know they're going to fuck it up. RPG elements are one of the god damned stretch goals.I said fuck it when the kickstarter started and started my first playthrough of SS1 and I'm loving it. I just got to the groves.
>>343721017
You deserve to be drawn and quartered.
>>343721190
You can't stop me.
Biopunk.
Dieselpunk.
You'remompunk.
>>343721338
I don't need to stop you. You're free to do as you like. I'm secure in the knowledge that you're a memeing faggot.
>>343721173
I love the first game and the demo wasn't that bad but still those new additions don't sound to great and might ruin the feel of the game. But still, I want it to be good.
Off-topic but how's Wasteland 2? I keep reading that it's kinda disappointing everywhere but gets kinda good after like 15 hours into the game.
>>343721703
Whatevs, seeing people getting triggered by stupid definitions is even more sadder than the people using said terms.
>>343721956
>>343719748
>Was the multiplayer even necessary?
It was something extra for you to do
>>343719748
>A game like Bioshock shouldn't have one.
and what's the logic here?
added extra value to the whole package
bioshock 2 = more bioshock with better gameplay and MP
>>343722157
I tried and I won since you're still mad over stupid definitions.
I hope the PC version of Bioshock 1 had mods, the game has some amazing ideas but the execution is so fucking awful.
>>343721338
Steampunk is cancer, call it dieselpunk since it looks better than 99% of that garbage.
>>343722360
In what way am I mad? I simply stated facts. You are a faggot, the terms are for ignoramuses, and I am a great person for feeling smug about it all.
>>343718379
>>343719542
Ah that's a shame, it's been so dead and empty in PC and PS3 ever since.
>you will never again protect a zombie girl as she's collecting bloodworms while playing as a psychotic housewife, gun in one hand and elemental superpower in the other
I miss the good old days, take me back /v/.
>>343722597
Bioshock 1 can be fun, 2 is a bit better at least in the gameplay department but Infinite is the most disappointing triple A title in years.
>>343722842
>In what way am I mad?
Not even him but you keep replying.
>>343698310
Such great visual design and potential wasted on an absolute shit story and yawn-inducing gameplay. Also, the siren.
>>343722842
>I-i'm not mad you faggot!
You know what's the fun part? I just replied to you without being serious to bump the thread.Reply to autist, best way to keep a thread alive.
>>343712785
>a steampunk consolified version of SS2
Sure was fun being able to have various Jack builds, wasn't it?
I think I'll finally do a psy build in the remaster.
>>343718221
Bioshock 2 had a multiplayer? wtf since when
>>343698310
Post your face after finally playing Infinite.
>>343723019
>>343723254
because, anonI'm so lonely I just wanted to bait him into talking to me
>>343723349
I dunno, I played using only plasmids. Pretty fun. Also building to be a stealthy hacker is fun. The consolified was referring to the dumbed down nature of the game though. You are correct, build variety went out the window, which definitely sucked.
>>343723410
>mfw going directly from 1 to Infinite
>>343698857
>You probably just didn't understand the story or found the combat too hard.
>>343698857
The combat was "hard" in the worst way possible. Everything was a bullet sponge and the best way to survive was to turtle 24/7
>>343723410
So this is just a graphical update or what?
>>343698857
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdNhwb7iuI4
>>343720854
>>343700472
The textures look better, buy why does that back wall look worse than the original?
>>343700472
The statue looks better visually but >>343700753 actually looks like a goddamn statue.
>>343730328
Shiny.
Due to AO, maybe?
>>343732001
probably. seems to be missing in the "remaster" screenshot.
>>343698125
Fuck that other shit, I'm hype for bioshock1 remaster. Best game deserves best treatment
Don't fuck this up please.
Shame they couldn't rip the first two and dump them into the newest unreal engine, that'd be pretty cool. Then again, a lot of people wish games that use a succession of engines could be that easy.
>>343723410
I wonder if the sound will still be utterly fucked up in Bioshock 2. I'd like to finally be able to play Minerva's Den.
>>343698125
Well, he's correct, Infinite looked, and still looks absolutely gorgeous on PC, there's nothing to remaster in that regard.
>>343735572
Aside from giving it good gameplay.
>>343698125
so basically console players are just buying the game in order to change the graphic settings?
>>343736434
They could patch in the DLC weapon system, wouldn't break the game, but it would dramatically improve the combat variety.
>>343736785
Some people wouldn't mind that excuse to play it through again, then there are all the people who missed out on the originals and don't want to go back to last gen to play them. It's a little more than just higher graphics settings, looks like they're going full remaster on us, which is appreciated.
>>343737162
Or just change the weapon system so you can carry more than one gun at a time. Easily the dumbest change they made in Infinite was that One Gun crap.
And while it's true some people don't want to go back to previous gens, it's kind of a lazy excuse unless you're some late adopter who only just got into consoles and bought the current gen systems. Or an idiot who sells off the previous gen systems they had like some tool.
>>343737534
That's exactly what I said, the DLC's had the traditional Bioshock weapon system in place.
It's hardly a lazy excuse, the Bioshock games haven't aged extremely well, they're clunky to control and would look like ass were it not for their fantastic art direction. I played them through when I was younger, I Loved them, playing them with modernized visuals will be a dream.
>>343730328
1440p compared to 1080?
