Why was Intelligence needed to say this?
>>343694453
you told him what he wants to hear
>>343694595
That would be CHA
>>343694453
It's sarcasm.
>>343694780
That would be CHA
>>343694908
Your mother is CHA
>>343694713
yeah true
then maybe be we're smarter than the character
maybe 0 intel is boerderline brain dead and 10 is average
>>343694997
Cha cha cha
>>343694997
That would be CHA.
>>343695058
CHA LA HEY CHA LA
>>343694453
Because Bethesda thinks that's a smart thing to say.
>>343694453
Why was intelligence needed to say this?
Why was speech needed to say this?
>>343697538
Because you ARE with one of the casinos, technically, and Mick's wary of your shit.
>>343697732
No, you are with the Mojave Express and even so Speech would not have much effect on a one-word answer. Maybe CHA.
>>343697828
That's a skill check though. Does NV even have SPECIAL checks? I forget.
>>343697952
It's a dumb skill check regardless. I think it does, very few though.
Kind of that stupid Science check where your character just says magic gibberish to make robots let you pass.
>>343697401
It's a subtraction
>>343698189
Sure, but you need something to lock certain player characters out of these things.
I'm more annoyed about Mick's secret stash being [Inaccessible] instead of being more reasonably placed so you can't steal shit easily.
>>343698350
You need 6 INT to subtract 3 from 4?
>>343698671
>>343698350
>>343697401
That should be STR
>>343698671
>>343698350
It should of been a perception check.
>>343698671
Unlike the retarded three-dog shit, that piece of NV dialogue cleverly pointed out a fallacy.
It's your character noticing something is off, because the guy fired three shots and there are four guys.
A retard like you wouldn't understand, but it's not about you being able to use your intelligence, it's your character.
>>343699665
Good god you're such a fanboy. The intelligence required to subtract 3 from 4 is about as low as what you'd need to make sense of what 3-Dog meant.
>>343699665
Fuck off Vegas fanboy.
I'm so tired and sick of your god damn shit. People like you clearly never played Fallout 3 and 4 to realize it's epitomized beauty it holds. Go suck a dragon dildo.
>>343694453
delete this
>>343699665
Just because its better than shit doesn't mean its great.
>>343699665
It should have been perception instead.
The guy speaks a bunch of stupid-ass Ebonics. Of course it takes intelligence to understand when he's like "SCOOT MY BOOT, RAZZMATAZZ! SKWIZZY MY SWIMBAM ON THE WIPWOP WITH THE JAZZY SLAM RADEEDILY!"
>>343694453
>>343699130
>should of
It should have been a perception check.
>>343701221
>no bix-nood
Fuck off, Reddit
>>343700927
there was a pretty cool Perception check in Fallout 3, when you get mugged in that random encounter and you tell him that there are no bullets in his revolver.
>>343698671
Well, if 5 is the average person i think it would take 6...ever seen the average person doing math?
>>343701352
Jesus wept I'd forgotten about that.
>>343701352
If the other bad guy that confronts you at the end didn't knew about eden's plan, why did he wanted to have the purifier exactly? Especially considering that the enclave most likely have technology much more advanced than that to purify water and that they don't give a shit about helping wastelander settlements.
>>343701352
>Aren't I the best hope for the wasteland?
>No, youre incompetent, <insert reason>
Ok, following so far
>What alternative do you suggest?
>No dude really just kill yourself
>Ok
Lost me
>>343702557
the fact that everyone (Enclave, Brotherhood and hero's father) want just turn on water purifier and fight earch other for this is beyond me
>>343701461
fuck you. I only have a 4 in INT.
>>343703089
Wasn't the idea that the Enclave were going to sell the water for profit? Honestly not sure, only played the game through once about 6 years ago.
>>343703089
>>343703505
I think it was more about controlling the resources. If the Enclave has the water purifier than they can... uh...
>>343698671
yea,5 is the average. Have you not interacted with the average person lately?
>>343701352
It's like Bethesda played and tried to copy Fallout 1, but they didn't fully grasp what made the one in charge of the big antagonizing force what they were.
Or maybe I'm just giving them too much credit and they're either generally incompetent or they dumbed that shit down on purpose as not to confuse their audience.
>>343697401
hard to concentrate when the bullets are flying
>>343703617
Actually hang on, how did the purifier work? Did it actually just, like, purify the entire river?
>>343704476
nanobots maybe?
but I think it was more like a filtration pump that is constantly cyclying water and removing radiation with filtres and shit
>>343699105
why the fuck should it be STR
>>343704721
So takes in water from the river into a pump in that station place, where there's some pipe in there giving out fresh water?
Just thinking of a method that supports my thought that maybe the Enclave were looking to have power over people in the Capital Wasteland by lording it over the one source of clean water; though the way I half-remember it is it just magically purifies the water and as such there is truly no point fighting over it.
I found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2fX7U4o5hQ a few minutes ago while bored and searching, honestly I don't even know. Not sure why I'm even trying to find ways to have sympathy for the shitty writing in F3, I really had very little time for that game when I played it.
>>343705934
ye I think it would have been more accurate for them to found a bottling plant at proect purity and distribute from there while most open water remains irradiated
radiation is so saturated in the environment one purifier wont make that much difference
>>343703505
Why would they need money? they are entirely self sufficient and have an army of soldiers all with their very own power armor and deadly energy weapons. If they want something they take it.
>>343703617
I would be more worried about the brotherhood having optimus prime at their disposal rather than a shitty water purifier. They should have stormed the citadel with their literally infinite supply of enclave troopers and vertibirds and take the giant death robot for themselves.
>>343700927
It's been a while, but I'm almost positive there's a perception check for that event as well as an intelligence check.
>>343699889
Being keen enough to pick up on the fact that within a split second or two only 3 bullets were fired and there were 4 bodies is intelligences. The only problem is the game also comes with a perception skill, which fits the bill better for that type of skill check.
>>343699902
Try harder, and if that's the best you can do that's pathetic. At least make an argument.
Out of all the areas we have seen in every Fallout game, where would you live?
New Vegas wouldn't seem too bad, but Vault city is also prety good.
>>343707237
NCR is best town.
>>343705934
I never finished Fallout 3, so this might be a silly question, but does the purifier clean up its surroundings or just the river? And whats stopping the river from being continually contaminated from its surroundings, given how fucking shit the DC wasteland is.
>>343707237
I'd live somewhere comfy near Zion. Everything there looks so nice, and not to mention all the water that runs through the valley is clean. Set up some crops and you're practically self sufficient.
>>343707662
And then one day you get your head blown off by a white leg with an anti-materiel rifle.
>>343706458
Yeah that seems like a way more logical situation.
>>343706843
Well I was more figuring they wanted a way to have control over the non-Enclave in the Wasteland; easy to do that if you control an essential resource since you can charge for it.
>>343707401
Honestly can't remember, that video I linked in the post makes me think the implication was that the purifier cleans it all (though if you're Enclave it... makes the water give you SUPER AIDS or something because they're fucking comic book villain tier writing) but I really can't remember.
>>343707237
capital wasteland seem by far the most hostile envrionment
NV and the surrounding areas are civilised as fuck by comparison
Living inside the NCR probably wouldn't be all too bad though we havn't directly seen that
>>343707401
>>343708065
Nope it just cleans up the tidal basin around the Monument. Can confirm as I've finished it last week
>>343707237
goodsprings
>>343707975
Depends on if they're still in the area by the time you set up shop there.
>>343708065
If I remember correctly the Enclave wants to put in a virus that will exterminate mutants whenever they drink from the "purified" water.
>>343708285
This, goodsprings is the comfiest place on earth. Easy pete even lets you sleep in his house if you don't have a place to crash.
>>343708259
So would that include that ship city place? From what I remember it was right by it. So yeah, that kinda solidifies how stupid the writing was since in that case any fucker could waltz up to it and get a drink since the Enclave clearly didn't have the manpower to fortify an area like that. Water pump, maybe; but not an area like that.
>>343708303
Yeah I've got vague memories of that, something about how they wanted to counter the FEV or something. Video makes it out like they threw the baby out with the bathwater and killed everyone making it even more comic book tier.
I was trying to be an optimist about this game for once and, shit, I'm honestly hating it even more than I did before. Thank fuck I didn't buy it on the Steam Sale the other night while drunk.
>>343697828
>Speech would not have much effect on a one-word answer.
It would if that answer is a lie. Speech is partly about being able to lie convincingly.
>>343708285
>>343708845
>Easy Pete as a positive
>Ever
Yep.
Reminder the Enclave wanted to pump the FEV into the water and kill all muties who drank it which is basically the entire capital wasteland's inhabitants because of radiation leak everywhere
>>343697401
Perception probably would have worked, too. His attempt to cover his ass is pretty transparent, though. "I keenly aimed through the soft tissue of one of them to hit the guy behind him." No one would say it like that.
>>343704085
that would be PER
>>343697952
>Does NV even have SPECIAL checks?
I'm pretty sure it has several of them. I remember one in Dead Money where you needed 7 Perception to tell someone was lying to you.
>>343708303
>If I remember correctly the Enclave wants to put in a virus that will exterminate mutants whenever they drink from the "purified" water.
And by "mutants", they mean "literally everyone who wasn't born in the Enclave or a Vault".
>>343709428
Nope. Just the lake in front of the purifier, the River in Rivet City is still contaminated
>>343712316
Which also includesyourself, since you were actually born outside the Vault before Dad brought you there as a baby.
>>343711124
Enclave were the good guys. Remove the subhuman scum. Begin anew.
>>343697952
In Dead Money, someone tells you directions to navigate through a deadly and hazardous cloud. You need to pass a Perception check to notice that he didn't say he meant HIS right, not yours.
>>343712534
Would you include yourself among those to be removed?Because in FO3, you would have to.
I've noticed that those who call for exterminating "lesser" people never seem to include themselves for some reason.
>>343713262
Relax, just ignore the /pol/ack there
>>343713262
its called bad writing
>>343712534
>mutants with superhuman strength created as super soldiers
>subhuman
Nah.
>>343701352
Is this real? Holy shit, I'm glad I bought New Vegas instead
So why is New Vegas better than 3???
Just playing NV after 3 right now and it's basically just a faloout 3 with ADS and a smaller map, just like a expansion.
>>343713690
Yes, it's real. This is Bethesda we're talking about, after all. Bad writing shouldn't really come as a surprise.
That said, I do think FO3 is better than NV for random exploration and dungeon crawling, if that's your thing. On one level, it's cool how just about everything in NV is linked to one plot or another, but sometimes you just want to go into a dungeon and have fun shooting stuff without having to make any big decisions or deal with NPCs.
>>343714047
Better writing, player options have way more visible weight in the world, hardcore mode included as standard.
Those would be my big three reasons why I like the game more.
>>343714047
it isn't
fallout 3 had some special intangible magic that all the extra quests, features and all that shit NV had on top of it simply couldn't beat
3 had atmosphere
>>343714047
- Better writing
- Better use of RPG mechanics (skill checks, SPECIAL checks)
- Companions with actual stories, quests, and dialogue
- Choices that actually matter
- Ending slides that tell you how you affected the world in much more detail than FO3 did
- Crafting and weapon mods
- Different ammo types
- Vastly greater weapon variety
- Several NPCs voiced by Laura Bailey
>>343714309
>Better writing
Can't disagree on that one and I just played for like 2 hrs
>>343714645
I liked it though it was way too greenish like everywhere, even in Oasis
>>343714667
Thanks for the list, will check on that whilst in playing through
>>343713640
>Superhuman Strength
>Dumb as a sack of hammers
Gee, sounds like an inferior race to me. Perhaps one with real world parallels.
>>343714645
>>343714959
>I liked it though it was way too greenish like everywhere, even in Oasis
I dont know if i agree with this, 3 really instilled a sense of desolation in me. The people scraped and struggled to survive day to day. Playing new vegas felt like living in a pretty much civilised society that gets dangerous on the outskirts
>>343715181
do different opinons upset you?
>>343715181
This, it isn't hell but definetly too greenish
>>343715385
Maybe because the West Coast Wastelands were kind of advanced in relation to the East Coast ones?? I can't understand why the Capital Wasteland was hell on Earth with places like Pentagon and the Mall Buildings around. Were they less selfless on the East or what?
>>343715385
>>343715385
>I dont know if i agree with this, 3 really instilled a sense of desolation in me. The people scraped and struggled to survive day to day.
I think by "greenish", he meant that the entire game has an actual greenish tint, not that things looked lively or colorful.
>Playing new vegas felt like living in a pretty much civilised society that gets dangerous on the outskirts
Well, that was the intention. Part of Fallout is that the world is rebuilding, and in the NCR's case, is basically rebuilt already, despite Chris Avellone's desire to nuke everything all over again and start over from immediate post-apocalypse.
>>343714997
They aren't dumb as a sack of hammers, though. There's Fawkes in F3 and as established in New Vegas (which frankly dealt with the setting way better than F3 which just wanted the super mutants to be bullet sponge enemies) the super mutants weren't all complete dipshits.
But yeah go ahead and tell me what your "real world parallel" is, this will be a laugh.
>>343715883
>>343715883
>But yeah go ahead and tell me what your "real world parallel" is, this will be a laugh.
Do you even need him to tell you? I think it's fairly obvious if you've spent any length of time on 4chan.
>>343715680
idk maybe it just got hit harder during the war
weather conditions and fallout stopped societys from reforming properly again, not to mention supermutant stranglehold on the capital city
you would expect that the mojave being a desert would end up more of a shithole afterwards
>>343715834
>I think by "greenish", he meant that the entire game has an actual greenish tint, not that things looked lively or colorful.
oh my misunderstanding
>Well, that was the intention. Part of Fallout is that the world is rebuilding, and in the NCR's case, is basically rebuilt already, despite Chris Avellone's desire to nuke everything all over again and start over from immediate post-apocalypse.
guess I just personally enjoy the other type of wasteland a bit more.
>>343715680
I think it's because the East Coast got hit harder in the nuclear war, because that's where the capital was.
>>343715834
Yeah I totally meant the greenish tint, thanks for noticing
>>343716227
Good point, but wouldn't the West still be kind of dangerous too? The hot atmosphere could really let people dry and with water irradiated entire places would be ghoulified in time being
>>343716064
Honestly I was wondering how the cuckold obsessed fetishist would spin it, I got:
>>343716036
Which is confirmation of their mindset.
Gave mild entertainment.
>>343715883
A handful of tolerable super mutants is a small price to pay for the eradication of the shit ones (all but 1 in all of DC) and all the feral ghouls.
>>343716623
its possible the drier climate would have reduced the amount of radiation distribution in the local area less rainfall and that.
But with a global nuclear apocalypse I doubt it would make much difference
>>343716203
Yeah Ikr the Mojave should be a dryhole still society builds better there, If so then would places like the Midwest be a safe haven for a climate balance and less radiation, seeing as its like a less known and habitated region of USA?
>>343716623
I don't think the ambient temperature has any effect on ghoulification. Water would probably be harder to come by, but the fact that it's irradiated doesn't matter so much; everyone's water is irradiated, and ghouls are still the minority.
>>343697538
You are with the Lucky 38
is fallout 4 a badgame
>>343717352
mediocre game, piss-poor excuse for a fallout game
>>343717126
>>343717013
What about snowier places like Anchorage? Would snow be irradiated?
What about Europe?
Man, fucking big lore series... always making me ask more than answerAnd i love it desu
>>343701496
Bethesda Game Studios have a few competent devs under their belt, this is known
>>343717352
>>343708303
They didn't want to do that.
>>343717030
yeah you are probably right. I imagine lots of rural pre-electricity type communities doing quite well in those parts. someone like the enclave would readily rape for resources though.
Also I remember house mentioning that he had missile defence systems installed that defended NV and the local area from maybe 90% of targeted nukes. if the rest of the west had this tech but it wasn't transported to the east in time this could explain how society manages better over there.
>>343717446
I imagine europe as totally and completely fucked desu. With anchorage who knows, seeing as it was the front of the fighting towards the end of the war I would imagine it to be totally ravaged. hard to rebuild somewhere like that
>>343694453
Even fucking Call of Duty games have better writing than Betheshit.
>>343697952
You need High Intelligence and Perception to communicate with Christine well
>>343714645
For me, I jumped into fallout 3 at release hoping for the continuation of the world that engrossed me like no other in fallout 1/2. Imagine my increasing disappointment when every part of the old lore was only lightly referenced, poorly done, or completely nonsensical.
>Hey remember super mutants? We got them here too, dont ask how they are related to the master, cause they arent!
>Hey remember the rangers? We got them too, don't ask how they are related to the ranger faction, cause they arent!
>remember horace? ded, without master parallels as a final plot point of their shared origins
>remember the plasma rifles? no not the old clunky iconic ones from f1/2 that we didnt bother putting in a replacement for for the fans. heres our new sleek looking ones cause redesigns
>remember the brotherhood? They are the nicest people on the earth now
>remember enclave? I dont even know how they are here or what they are doing
>>343717857
It's annoying how you have to turn subtitles on for everything to get the descriptions of her gestures. Was there no way to force the subtitles only for her?
>>343718039
>FO3 plasma rifle
>sleek
The older versions were more sleek looking.
>>343718039
>remember the brotherhood? They are the nicest people on the earth now
They go out of their way to tell you that Lyons' BoS is basically a splinter group, and there are also the Outcasts, who decided to stick to the Brotherhood's original mission and broke away from Lyons.
>>343717737
Guess he just got it from Area 51 right?
But still Midwest like Iowa and maybe, just maybe South Texas by the frontier would do fine
>>343718387
Tubes
>>343717737
Would Europe really be done? I don't see places like London being a hellhole seeing as Tamisa is dirty as shit already
[Charisma 9] Just shut up and buy my fucking game.
>>343718649
yeah but when you have the brotherhood's largest most interactive faction in the game so far divided as the series' reintroduction to this faction, they are introducing them in the most misleading light
![1333753424940[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/0BjnZh7.png "1333753424940[1].png")
>>343718834
t-tubes?
>>343718387
That really looks more like a home-made plasma gun than a state-of-the-art weapon produced by a government.
>>343719153
The ironic thing, though, is that in being do-gooders, they actually secured a ton of Enclave technology, Liberty Prime, and the purifier. They actually fulfilled the original mission very well, without having to be dicks to everyone.
>>343701496
it was a sawn-off shotgun and the character was called max
little ode to a scene in road warrior where he holds up someone with no shells in his sawn-off
one thing I enjoyed about fallout 4 was wearing road leathers and leather armour pretending to be mad max, the armoured vault suit in 3 reminded me of that style too.
>>343718772
I think he designed it himself to defend "his city" house was like supergenuius head, founder and CEO of robco
>>343718910
feel its too densely populated and caught right in the crossfire of both major superpowers
>>343719540
Veronica really argued the reason well which is another thing. Companions were so static in f3.
>>343719540
And then that kid in the Citadel grew up, assassinated Sarah Lyons, and threw all that goodness out the window. Never trust a child character created by Bethesda.
>>343718910
There might be some places left in situations like Vegas, but I'm pretty sure it's stated that pretty much every real population center is a pile of rubble.
>>343719923
And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the original founders actually intend for the BoS to be upstanding defenders of the people, and only over time did they become corrupt and turn into self-righteous, tech-hoarding pricks?
>>343720086
Hmm yeah but putting every real population center in the shit would be physically impossible, specially in Fallout lore, where places like South Africa and Argentina where never mentioned nor involved in the war, but well its game logic so...
>>343720823
>He then tortured us for a code that didn't matter and which we had no reason to not give him
You mean other than the fact that it was very likely he'd execute us once he had the code and we'd outlived our usefulness? And in fact, that's exactly what he does if you do give him the code?
>>343720406
I imagine they started as the preservation of human progress only to to have the mission become more important than the goal, but that's what the brotherhood are, unfeeling and flawed
Actually, shouldn't the GECK have been able to purify the water on its own? I know in the other games it was basically just a settlement starting kit, but FO3 makes it into a Genesis Device.
>>343720823
Someone post the response to this. I need a chuckle courtesy of FO3 fags.
>>343719160
No, Science Team, this isn't a Metroid thread. Go back to your phazon research.
>>343722052
jury rigging breaks the game
>>343704721
It's hilarious that your dad needed a GECK when a multi staged reverse osmosis system would clean the water of radiation just as well. Filters are so easy to make that it's commonly taught to children in those survival clubs like boy scouts. I like to imagine that everyone in the Capital Wasteland is severely retarded that the most intelligent of them(your dad) overshoot their requirements instead of making a simple solution. But we all know why it's like this, Bethesda is retarded.
>>343697401
>>343722557
Not that I'm defending Bethesda's fuckawful excuse for writing, but they have actually aknowledged this, though their excuse boils down to little more than the radiation in Fallout being "magic."
>>343698189
>Kind of that stupid Science check where your character just says magic gibberish to make robots let you pass.
>He didn't realize that Mr House loves Ice Cream.
>>343722808
>that robot in REPCONN that you could bypass with high Luck/Low Intelligence by shouting "Ice Cream!"
>mfw REPCONN is owned by RobCo
>>343698189
>tfw playing a 1 int brutish idiot and him randomly shouting Ice Cream worked.
I really miss that dialogue, even if it was limited in New Vegas.
[Intelligence] (farts)
>>343712384
>Nope. Just the lake in front of the purifier, the River in Rivet City is still contaminated
But Liam Neeson said it would purify the entire tidal basin. As in, the entire river around it basically.
>>343722772
To be fair, I'm pretty sure Fallout radiation was magic even before Bethesda got involved. Although if they were going with that explanation, they shouldn't have let you build filters left and right in FO4 with some duct tape and scrap metal.
>>343723179
Damn, we've got a genius here!
>>343723305
Oh yeah they really did contradict themselves with that.
>>343697828
There's more to convincing people than your choice of words. Your tone and non-verbal body language tells a lot.
>>343723235
But the trick is that as with irl, the tidal basin doesn't reach the Potomac River
>>343722557
I magine it was more like
>fallout 1 had the water chip be the driving force of the character
>fallout 2 had the geck as the driving force of the character
>fallout 3 is a revival of the series so lets make water related problems and the geck be the driving force once again
>little tidbits of water demands throughout the world like beggars for water, the water purifier in megaton
>overall, pretty shallow reasoning for water demands.
>should we change the theme? naw lets keep going in this direction.
>Not to mention, the GECK already has a independent water purifier system built into it, so they didnt need to hold that plant to begin with
>>343722557
>>343723964
I think it's way funnier to say what that anon said and think everyone in the wasteland is so retarded they went to 11 instead of the strong 3 the situation required
Like, even if it's another Bethesda game, it must be hilarious for the SS to build towns and purifiers until he's drowning in clean water compared to the big drama over Project Purity
East Coast is entirely fucked
>>343697952
>Does NV even have SPECIAL checks? I forget
Yes, the most of any Fallout game in fact.
>>343708285
>need water
>go to the well just down the road
>ripped apart by gekkos
>just off to visit my neighbour
>bring my gun to kill the insects I encounter along the way
>>343697538
It was a lie
>>343697401
It was barely above average but he's a conman and you need to be keen to pick up on his scam
>>343694453
>hear from normies of how great of a character this fag is prior playing F3
>some nig goes awoo on radio
>it's 3dog
>meet him in the game
>ayo imma fight da good fight
>okay, you do that
>awooo, the good fight, nomsayin
>[Later]
>>343697401
should be perception
>>343704645
its sad because its true
>>343704645
Would take Fallout4 approach over that particular pseudo intellectual babble
>>343730395
>HATE READING
>>343730458
That paragraph is terribly written, it's intentionally convoluted to sound smart.
>>343730660
Okay Pete.
>>343694453
because fighting using words, information and propaganda is a highly abstract and often subtle way to wage war, you giant dipshit.
>>343701352
>Kill yourself
>[SUCCESS] ok
>>343698671
It's pretty clear that 'intelligence' also includes keeping a clear head even in intense situations.
>>343695039
6 or 7 INT lets you tell one of the brotherhood outcasts that you've read moby dick
>>343694453
Your character, if smart enough, recognizes that Three Dog is a narcissist, but rarely receives the validation he craves because his Brotherhood guards don't respect him and he gets few callers. Thus, your character repackages his words in the most straightforward way possible in order to manipulate him.
is there really a portion of /v/ who prefer 3 to NV? Is it just reddit cancer?
or have some jaded fucks become so contrarian that they'd go with whatever is the opposite of what is commonly considered best even if that thing is genuinely worse?
>>343697538
You don't need Speech to say the words, you need it to say the words convincingly.
>>343697538
Telling a lie without spilling your spaghetti actually requires some speech skills.
>>343702557
It's not explained, but I always figured he just wanted to be a garden-variety warlord and knew a functioning purifier would be an invaluable resource for getting people on your side.
>>343697538
there is a difference between nervously stammering out a "n-no" while you play with your hands and look around the room and a strong "No" while looking the guy in the eye
>>343731289
That INT check dialogue is just you saying what he said right back at him, and then Three Dog commenting on how smart you are .
>>343717534
>not
>1. Yes
>2. No (Yes)
>3. Sarcastic (Yes)
>4. [Glass him] (Yes)
>>343722052
>killed NCR soldiers
I wonder who was behind this comic.
>>343732534
>Glass him
I THOUGHT I WAS BUYING HIM A DRINK
>>343732479
>tfw this comic is banned on Reddit because of rayciss and a politically correct version has been made
>>343732534
>>343717534
More like:
>1. Yes. Also I'm mourning my lost wife and child
>2. No (yes). Also I'm mourning my lost wife and child
>3. Sarcastic yes. Also I'm mourning my lost wife and child
>4. Could you repeat that? Also I'm mourning my lost wife and child
>>343694453
Youre telling a self righteous dick what he wants to hear to butter him up. Intelligence is required to manipulate people
>>343732963
>child
>not my wife's child
>>343733147
Charisma is required to manipulate people, more so than intelligence.
>>343732963
Or in this case, it's all No instead of Yes.
>>343717534
How much useless recording have they done with the whole "mandatory 4 replies" thing? I imagine it would be hours upon hours of slightly rephrasing every line three times
>>343733447
Over 40,000 lines of dialogue.
>>343733257
Which is why you have a speech check to skip his quest later in the dialogue. The intelligence check doesnt actually get you anything from him, just makes him think you believe in him
>>343708845
>sleep in Easy Pete's house
>wake up and he blew up the town and the dam along with it
>You're trying to manipulate Three Dog
No you're not, you have no option to manipulate Three Dog, you can only do what he asks, or just skip his quest and go to where your father is to begin with.
http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=18363
19:30~ is about when the Three Dog conversation starts.
>>343733842
>wake up and he blew up the town and the dam along with it
That would be one hell of a bomb.
>>343733430
The worst part here is you can have this conversation while being in a relationship with several companionsshame because she's pretty qt too
>>343694908
>sarcasm its a CH
no, its more like INT or PE.
you dont piss off people with charisma.
>>343733945
it was actually just his moonshine setup. Accidentally gave it too much of a kick.
>>343733721
It should have been Charisma either way, speech to skip his mission and charisma to make him like you; maybe the latter could get you an early game BoS companion.
>>343733945
You bet
>meet this fucker in Caesar's Tent
>he set off half a ton of TNT in and around the entire encampment beforehand
>try to use console to kill him
>"Not so fast, pardner. I am your death incarnate" in that drawl of his
>Fucking hard drive explodes
Easy Fucking Pete
>>343734269
But you gotta admit, it was damn good moonshine. I think it was worth it.
>>343734269
Still, I'm impressed that it reached from Goodsprings to the dam and yet somehow left Pete's house intact. It must have been shaped-charge moonshine.
>>343707237
i have to agree with vault city.
easily my favorite location ive visited in any fallout game, mainly because its a town full of vault dwellers, and is basically the only place you ever see where a GECK was used
i can get over how snobby the citizens are, if i lived there i would act the same way.
>>343734167
And it's not like the game is devoid of other one-off sexual encounters. You can fuck that singer if you want. It's not even like the lines all say some version of "I'm not into ghouls." That at least wouldn't make things inconsistent.
>>343701352
That makes literally no fucking sense
>>343707237
NEW RENO
I'll go be a jet addicted porn star and live out my life fucking Mafiosos and prizefighters
>>343735006
Maybe that's the genius of it. The computer can't process it because it needs things to make sense, so it BSODs and blows up the bunker.
>>343714997
To be fair, that's only second generation mutants mostly. Marcus, Fawkes, the majority of Broken Hills, and almost all Nightkin are of at least (or in some cases) above average human intelligence.
>>343707237
Probably San Francisco.
Or maybe Reno,being a made man to thr Salvatores.
NCR is the closest to our modern life.
>>343731482
What's the context for bringing it up? Reading books is normal for someone living in vault. I guess int 3 is enough for learning how to read.
And yes, int 0 is braindead, 1 is drooling retard, but 10 is above average (probably not super genius, just someone who always gets top grades)
>>343734987
The game probably had like 5 different writers working on it, with very little collaboration. There's a lot of inconsistencies in the game
>>343735531
From a wiki:
>She makes a reference to Moby-Dick, by pejoratively naming Elder Lyons "Ahab" and comments on how he is "Chasing his super mutant white whale". Passing a steep Intelligence check causes her to be surprised, believing that the Outcasts possessed the only intact copy of Moby-Dick.
You're basically saying "I understand that reference"
>Playing with the ammo swapping glitch in New Vegas
>Get the Ballistic Fist to use Big Kid mini-nukes
>MFW suddenly doing 1000 damage punches that one shot Alpha Deathclaws
>>343735951
Proud of you birb
>>343735810
It's lore from F1 guide so bethesda might have never read it, but vault computers should have "entire library of congress" while every geck has something like 5% essential part.
>>343716227
The west coast was the hardest hit unless Bethesda retconned it
I did think it strained credibility a bit that my high-Intelligence Courier somehow knew enough Latin to bluff that captured Legion guy into thinking I'm there to kill him so he'll tell me what he knows. Just because someone is smart doesn't mean they had access to the materials they'd need to learn something. It's also a bit inconsistent, because I'm pretty sure my Courier didn't recognize when Arcade said "There's nothing new under the sun" in Latin. He didn't even know it *was* Latin.
>>343736348
>that jet plot in f2
>created by new reno to manipulate settlements
>is a key tool in a biggest and the best written power play in the whole series
>completely obliterated by retcons in f4 making it a pre-war drug because
>MUH-IRRELEVANT MICRO VAULT DRAMA
They did a lot of bad things to fallout, but this I can never forgive.
>>343694713
Perception is wis not cha you fucking casual.
>>343735695
I don't think any of them were unaware that companion romances were a thing, which is the biggest part of the whole inconsistency.
>>343736770
>tfw we'll never get the Fallout 3 that Van Buren was going to be
>tfw we'll never get another isometric rpg Fallout ever again
Hold me
>>343701352
Percentage based speech checks are so fucking boring. All they always boil down to are "[x%] I want thing." There's no actual persuasion involved.
>>343737589
I love concept art stuff.
Can anyone dump Fallout concept art from any of the games?
>>343735490
>be me
>living in san fran
>wake up at 6 am to wander around the courtyard for 16 hours before I go to bed
>some faggot hubologist tries to give me some literature
PLEASE RESPECT OUR PEOPLE
>that asshole Lo Pan challenged Dragon again
>watch them exchange a single kick and punch a piece before they get out of the ring
>some new person shows up in a working car
>has a dog, some sweaty fat man with a gauss rifle and combat armour, and a tribal with a fuck hueg hammer
YOU LOOK LIKE A HUBOLOGIST
>>343737976
nothat's all I have on my phone, sorry
>>343694453
What did he mean by this?
>>343738120
Kek
>the man walks in and out of the city multiple times before opening the trunk of his car
>>343738120
vic truly was the best companion
>>343739979
That's not how you spell Cassidy
>>343742124
Thats not how you spell goris
>>343737589
play underrail. its a fucking love letter to old fallout.
>>343716203
Sorry for the latepost but the majority of warheads sighted on the Vegas area were shot down by house, so that may explain why it is relatively more habitable
>>343745141
Was shit randomly radioactive to the extent that it is in Fallout 3/4 in the originals?
Why aren't there more games set in a post-nuclear setting? Its not as if Fallout is the originator of the idea. Metro is good but is quite emphatically linear.
>>343730395
>Hegel
>pseudo intellectual
kys
>>343745620
Its hard to judge based on whats in game, though maybe someone who played them more recently can elaborate. Most of the ingame radiation is centered around specific areas that were not directly related to nukes (china found out about a secret mutation virus lab and hit it with a bunker-buster/pre-war nuclear generator was re-inhabited and started to malfunction)
>>343745620
Pretty sure the only place with background radiation from nukes was Glow, also random green goo on the ground.
>>343739336
It's almost like the speech option implies that the character doesn't care for inferior primitive cultures and mocks the guy's name as a jumble of stupid shit before executing him in a way that would be considered a middle finger to him.
You know, like a sneering imperialist. You're basically strapping the muslim to a log and drowning him in pig blood.
You eyeballin' me?
>>343730123
Well it could have just been a bug, with intelligence you could deduce otherwise
>>343732834
I'm morbidly curious about this if someone has it saved.
>>343715181
Hmm, a vintage meme
>>343747583
it's just pathetically unfunny. although it kind of reveals how weak the joke was to begin with, but at least the ebonics add some element of humor.
>fallout
>trying to play a cynical survivor loner type
>not an hour in, preston telling me about his dead comrades
>pick it's a tough world
>"It's tough world, asshole!"
>>343746257
I'm pretty sure that the dead horses didn't believe you would be denied salvation of you died by being shot in the head.
Because you had to learn he did that first in order to know it, therefore it's intelligence
>>343730395
That's a funky way of calling yourself an illiterate retard. Go to the jungle and jam sticks into termite holes with the other monkeys.
