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Shigeru Miyamoto Tells Gamers to Give Star Fox Zero a Second Look
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Please clap.

>I think personally Star Fox is a really fun game if you sit down a play it. I think, for example, an elementary school kid who plays it without any preconceived notions, I think it would be really fun for them. I think it’s also really, really fun for siblings to play it together.

http://nintendoenthusiast.com/news/shigeru-miyamoto-tells-gamers-to-give-star-fox-zero-a-second-look/
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Fix the controls and we'll talk.
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>>343694206
Listen to this clown, he's in total PR mode.
I swear to god, the man has gotten so arrogant lately.
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He's going to damage control even more in the future.
If the NX doesn't have backwards compatibility and doesn't support the Wii U gamepad it'll be even more hysterical
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Nintendo can't do nothing wrong
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>>343694386
>look at this company representative talking positively about a product he's made for that company, how arrogant of him
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Star Fox is dead again
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>>343694331
>Fix the controls and we'll talk.
And allow the voice acting to come out of the TV, I mean jesus christ for real Nintendo
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>>343694550
Okay, fine. Let's ask this: has he ever admitted to making a mistake in the creation of one of his games before? Besides instances that were well after the fact?
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>>343694331

Tell Platinum to fix the controls - they fucked it up.

Miyamoto designed Star Fox Guard, which is fine.
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>>343694206
just allow the fucking voices to come out of the tv for fuck sake and add a faster game mode and we will talk the game is far to slow
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>>343694206
>b-b-but I think kids might like it

I still see no reason to give a shit about the NX.
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>>343694703
I can already imagine the team in the office and Miyamoto keeps insisting that the option of voice audio to come out of the TV must not be added to allow the player to feel "immersion" at all times whether they like it or not
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no ty
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>I think, for example, an elementary school kid who plays it without any preconceived notions, I think it would be really fun for them.

If you've never played a Star Fox game, you might think this game is good!
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>Retro Studios didn't like the gamepad
>Aonuma didn't like the gamepad
>Miyamoto keeps insisting on the gamepad's use despite how the Wii U is pretty much going to be shafted for the NX soon
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Nintendo and Miyamoto specifically have not figured out that you don't make the game you think kids would like to play, you make the game that YOU would like to play as suitable for kids.
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Time to get rid of this guy. When you can even accept a small amount of criticism it's a sign of delusion.
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>>343694206
>an elementary school kid
Well, I'm glad they've figured out the only demographic they plan on targeting.
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>Port Star Fox Zero to the NX
>Dub it Star Fox Zero Directors Cut
>Add more content in general
>Give it online multiplayer, local competitive multiplayer, and bots
>Have control options
>Use the NX advantages to improve graphics and frame rate
>If possible cram an entire sequel in it with Zero being "Episode 1" and the "sequel" being "Episode 2"
>Advertise the multiplayer
Sound good?
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>>343694718
You pretty much describe 99% of producers and directors. I'm pretty sure most contracts require them to pretty the product they're involved with is perfect until years later.
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>>343694206
>forced motion control shit

I'd rather do nothing than play it for free
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>>343695098
>If you've never played a Fallout game you might like Fallout 4
Nintendo confirmed Bethesda tier.
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The controls are fine, the problem is that they don't give you any options to suit your preference. Miyamoto is so far up his own ass at times.
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>>343694703
You can turn the volume off the wii u gamepad and it comes out the tv
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>>343695445
If something absolutely flops and gets critically savaged, the usual response isn't to defend every inch of it as if it's all everyone else's fault for not finding the hidden brilliance in their turd.
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>>343694206
>I think, for example, an elementary school kid who plays it without any preconceived notions, who has no idea what makes a quality game and enjoys every piece of shit they play, I think it would be really fun for them. I think it’s also really, really fun for siblings to play it together, and it's fun with friends!
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But in order for me to give it a shot, I'd have to buy a literally dead console. Does he really expect me to do that?
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>>343694550
He's blaming the consumer for not liking his game, that's arrogant.
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>>343694206
How is it possible for one company to be so completely out of touch?
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>>343694206
>Fans want a new Star Fox.
OKU BUTU YOU HAVEU TO USE GYROU!
>We dont want stupid motion gimicks, give us control options please.
NO FIRTHY PIGGU I KNOW WHATS BETTELU FOR YOU!
>Fans dont buy it, ones that do hate the gyro controls.
PREASU BUYU MUH GAMU!

Fuck you shiggy.
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>>343694206
>elementary school kid.

I doubt any elementary school kid even knows what the hell Starfox is.
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>>343694206
Nah fuck you Miyamoto. I gave the game a try and it was fucking shit. fuck your controls. I still have nightmares when I remember how the controls worked for the walker. If you cant make a proper sequel to Star Fox 64 might as well let the shit die
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>Says Star Fox Zero will have a focus on story
>It's bare bones as fuck and is pretty much 64 with teleporters
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>>343694206
Do you like rail shooters and playing a game multiple times? Get Star Fox. Otherwise don't get it.
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I actually understand how meleefags feel now. Getting a new game in the series that you believe not good enough to live up to its predecessor, even though Nintendo keeps pushing that it is. They say you can't complain because the series is getting games, but there's no point in any series title since that one.

As someone who feels there has been no true Star Fox game since 64, especially now, this Zero shit has made me understand meleefags.
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>>343694206
>Make a sequel to a game that only had any demand because of fans of the original
>Go on to say that the game might be fun if you never played the original and have no idea what you're getting
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>It's fun if you're a little kid!
>It's fun with friends!
How come Star Fox and Star Fox 64 are both fun and good without needing either of those things?
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>>343696178
>Rail shooter

Get serious
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>A game is good if youre 7 and never played games before

No wonder the game fucking sucked
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>>343696453
Because back then they had to make guns fun because you essentially was playing with fucking triangle jaggy shit blocks.

The games where ugly as a motherfucker so you gotta make it fun.

Now you can just throw any glossy shit out there with a cutscene and it gets hit with GAME OF THE YEAR awards, you toss a random gay character in there or female lead, ohhhh lawd Reviewer cum just flows.

>Have a friend who is a reviewer.
>They are gushing over a game.
Is it because it has a female lead?
>WE DONT GET FEMALE LEADS IN GAMES ITS SO PROGRESSIVE!

ya..ok, whatever.
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>>343694206
So to summarize,
>I think kids would really like this game
You heard him, nintenyearolds.
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>Fuck fans of over 20 years, retard kids whove never played games in the series before will like it
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>>343696652
When has Nintendo done any of that shit? Keep your westcuck standards to yourself.
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>>343694206
>someone without critical thinking skills who has little to no experience with video games might have fun with it
Really doing a great job selling it to me Shiggy.
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Miyamoto once said that Nintendo wasn't focusing on kids enough
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>>343696453
because nintendo are all out of good games

i don't know if they're even capable of making a game that teenagers and above can actually enjoy, all they know is how to target younger audiences
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>33 people who haven't even played a game talking about how shitty the controls are
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>>343695443
>If possible cram an entire sequel in it with Zero being "Episode 1" and the "sequel" being "Episode 2"

How about a small "episode" or whatever you want to call it where you play as Star Wolf?
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>>343696956
I feel that this is why Aonuma does not want his input in the making of Zelda games, thats why they are actually doing new stuff recently. Miyamoto would have never pulled off a Breath of Wild or Link Between Worlds if he was directing.
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>>343696828
>When has Nintendo released shitty games.
or
>When has Nintendo pandered to casual scum.
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>>343694206
>Didnt give us Skull Kid in first Hyrule Warriors
>Doesnt give us Linebeck in the DLC
>Now goes on to say that the new Star Fox is basically targeted at children and fuck the old fans
I legitimately dont understand how there are unpaid people who defend this shit. Seriously they seem to embody the philosophy that they dont care about the people who got them to where they are, all they care about is newblood no matter how they get it.
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>>343697165
>LAIR WAS A PERFECT GAME FOR THE PS3 WITH ITS PERFECT CONTROLLER MOVEMENTS!
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>>343694206
They get more and more desperate every single day. I love it.
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>>343697398
It's like love
It's like romance
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>>343694206
>I think it’s also really, really fun for siblings to play it together.
Japan has one of the lowest fertility rates in the entire world: a lot of kids there don't HAVE siblings.
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As a fan of Star Fox and Star Fox 64, I love Zero.

/v/ can shitpost all they want, it won't change the fact it's a good game. I can still play and enjoy it while everybody else gurgles Yahtzee and Polygon excrement, it only means we might not get another Star Fox for a while.
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>>343697398
>>343697495
It's funny because kids barely give a shit about Nintendo anymore, casuals all moved on to smartphones and all they have left is their core fanbase, which they continue to alienate and piss off.
Nintendo probably won't die off completely, but I could easily see them going the way of Atari and Sega.
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No Krystal no buy
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>>343697747
It's possible, honestly they can survive entirely off Pokemon and Amiibo. Which they might do once they try to get into the phone market.
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>>343697924
oh god

it's (You)
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So he's saying fuck the old fans. So what? Not that many of them left and you can't win with the ones that are still around. If there's any change they bitch about that, if there's no change at all they bitch about rehashing. Going for new fans really was the best option.

Anyone have that screen shot of an anon pretending to be Miyamoto talking about Zelda and how people didn't like Wind Waker until Twilight Princess came out and they bitched about it being an OoT rehash?
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>>343694206
>rehash a 20 year old game hoping younger gen kids will also enjoy it
>forgot the fact rail shooters are fucking dead in 2016 and the target audience for Star Fox (furries) aren't kids
>forgetting your fucking console is dying and the NX is coming soon
>now damaging controlling and shilling this hard for selling like shit and ruining its rep even more and possibly killing it for good
>miyamotodrones will STILL defend him
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I want star fox assault multiplayer back, I thought it was a fun addition it was just not a perfect star fox game that was all
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What a time to be alive

Save us from his tyranny, Aonuma
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>>343694206
>I think, for example, an elementary school kid who plays it without any preconceived notions, I think it would be really fun for them.
That's the problem. There were better games in the past.
I even had no problems with the controls for the game. I could get used to them. But the end Andross fight, with no true Andross fight, lack of stages and alternate paths, and poorly handled star wolf battles, it couldn't compare.
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>expecting that anyone cares about a SF game without Krystal
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>>343698060
>Going for new fans really was the best option.
No it wasnt
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>>343698009
I like Krystal
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>>343698137
I'm still surprised that I am rooting for Aonuma.
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>>343698263
Old fans left a long ass time ago, he's better off doing something mechanically sound and appeals to an audience that has actually purchased the Wii U
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>>343698137
I love how Aonuma literally UNJUSTED himself this E3 while Shiggy just keeps getting shitted on
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>>343698341
I'm not. Considering it was just /v/ looking for a popular figure to fling shit at. Aonuma was likely the only reason LoZ games were any good while Miyamoto kept holding them back. That's what it looks like in any case with the new one.
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>>343698137
Aonuma seems like the only normal person in Nintendo now a days. Sakamoto's been put in a corner indefinitely for franchise rape, Miyamoto doesn't know when to retire, and Sakurai still makes good games but loves to be moody about it all the time.
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>>343698060
Miyamoto basically tried to do something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anbhNTtrx4M
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>Shiggy was complaining about casuals two years ago
>Still designing games for fucking 6 year olds
Jesus christ just croak already you senile gook. He still thinks nintendo can reproduce the success of the wii, casuals aren't a reliable customer base miyamoto when will you learn?
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>>343698137
Aonuma is a godsend. Hopefully Nintendo understands that Miyamoto is creatively bankrupt and gives more control to their other talent.
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>>343698410
>Old fans left a long as time ago
Your feelings doesnt make this true. Judging from the backlash you can clearly they failed to do either. Getting the guaranteed sales of appealing to their old fanbase at the very least is the best they can do, especially for a niche market. It's like Ninja Theory's attempt at making DMC mainstream and saying fuck the fans while trying to get new people. But you're likely just shitposting trying to defend the undefendable so whatever.
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>>343698471
There's still Koizumi.
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>for years /v/ defends Nintendo
>literally the company that openly aims for the widest possible audience, thus casual homogenized shit
>the defense never stops

This has always fascinated me. Nintendo is getting raw ass fucked BECAUSE they can't pick an audience and yet you faggots will swallow their load every time.
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>>343698471
Sakurai is basically a 40 year old emo kid at this point.
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>>343694206
>I think, for example, an elementary school kid who plays it without any preconceived notions, I think it would be really fun for them.

Yeah, and if my kid drinks the purple stuff under the sink he'll probably think that shit's delicious until he's puking his purple dyed guts out.

Like why the fuck can't we get a straightforward game out of this nigger anymore? Everything he's involved in becomes heavily invested in a single gimmick that just interferes with the whole project.
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>>343698760
Not Him
I'm skeptical if Koizumi still has any creative juice left in him after Miyamoto's "four hour talk" with him
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>>343698471
>Sakurai still makes good games
Outside of Kid Icarus, not really seeing any.
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>>343695626
But that's not true.
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>>343694703
Not a perfect solution but I heard using headphones with the gamepad allows you to have all the audio coming from one source, so maybe plug the gamepad into some speakers?

Iunno, ruined the game for me desu.
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>>343698772
>assuming the people complaining are the same people who buy the games

its a *public* imageboard

please don't personify the hivemind
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>>343697275
That'd be pretty cool
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>>343698137
>You have your car's GPS system on your dash. If you had it down in your lap, you're going to get into an accident!

Holy shit, how the greatest takedown of the WiiU come from someone who works at the company who made it? Based Aonuma.
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>>343698823
I assume the success of the Wii combined with corporate thinking.
>X was successful therefore anything like X will also be successful
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>>343694206
He's right, the game does actually get to be really fun when you finally adjust to the controls.

But by the time you finally get good with them the game is over, because its incredibly short, and then there's nothing left for you to do.
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>>343699131
When you think about it, the whole concept is completely ridiculous. Why would you ever try to design a game around that?
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>>343694673
Maybe it'll stay dead until they come up with a story other then starfox 64s again
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>>343699267
It should have been pretty obvious from the beginning forcing players to constantly look at two different screens was a bad idea. Nintendo is out of touch.
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>Makes a game with a single player campaign as the focus
>Says kids will love it for the multiplayer
BRAVO MIYAMOTO
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>>343699489
>Nintendo is out of touch

No, its just that Miyamoto wouldn't bring Star Fox back unless he had some new gimmick or idea for it. Thats the entire reason we haven't got a new F-Zero game in 10 years
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“Donkey Kong Country proves that players will put up with mediocre gameplay as long as the art is good.” - Shigeru Miyamoto

What did he mean by this?

Source: http://www.1up.com/features/year-monkey?pager.offset=2

Players expecting that the brilliance of Donkey Kong '94 heralded a stunning return to form for the long-abandoned franchise were given a rude awakening when Rare was handed the Donkey Kong license. While their technical work was always impressive, the gameplay never lived up to the series' origins.

When it was first shown off in 1994, folks assumed that the slick pre-rendered graphics of Donkey Kong Country were for a next-generation console. But it was an extraordinarily impressive SNES game that almost single-handedly saved Nintendo's 16-bit business during the rocky, transitional mid-'90s. Sadly, for all their technical merit, none of the three DKC games that Rare released in rapid succession were especially fun to play. But don't just take our word for it: even Miyamoto slammed the series in an interview with Electronic Games a year later, saying "Donkey Kong Country proves that players will put up with mediocre gameplay as long as the art is good."
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If you didn't drop nintendo long before this, there's something mentally wrong with you.
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>I believe the gameplay will evoke nostalgic memories of playing Star Fox on Super Nintendo Entertainment System and NINTENDO 64, and at the same time mastering the new controls while progressing in the game will be a fun experience filled with nostalgic influence and the creation of new strategies.
>In the E3 version, we removed some features like bombs that were present in previous titles, however following internal review, we think fans will find the game jam-packed with good elements from previous games in the series. Of course, I would like children who have never played the series to feel like a fighter pilot, but also to enjoy the fun of an action game where they can gradually master the button and gyro controls as they play.

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/09/miyamoto-wants-children-to-feel-like-fighter-pilots-in-star-fox-zero/
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Maybe if you added more to the game then people would give it a second look

-Multiplayer
-Extra missions for SP (like stuff ftom 64 like the Forever Train)
-New Extra Missions
-More Boss Fights with Star Wolf (As I recall Leon doesn't even have a special attack unlike the rest of them)
-Brain Boss Andross
-Star Wolf Campaign
-Optional Controls
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>>343699697
Then why not make a Pilotwings reboot
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>>343699638
>“Donkey Kong Country proves that players will put up with mediocre gameplay as long as the art is good.”
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>>343694206
>fun for an elementary kid who knows nothing about the game..

And that's exactly the kind of sap they want to buy it. An ignorant child.
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>>343699638
>>343699897
Reminder that the only reason he said that was because Nintendo kept pressuring him to make Yoshis Island look more like DKC
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>>343699638

Apparently he was just testy because people were trying to talk him into giving Yoshi's Island a full makeover. I think his words may have been taken out of context, as if he wasn't referring to DKC directly but predicting the current state of the industry.
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>>343699638
>The first point that I want to make is that I actually worked very closely with Rare on the original Donkey Kong Country. And apparently recently some rumour got out that I didn't really like that game? I just want to clarify that that's not the case, because I was very involved in that. And even emailing almost daily with Tim Stamper right up until the end.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2010/06/turns_out_shigeru_miyamoto_does_like_donkey_kong_country
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>>343699612
And nobody wants gimmicks so you're just proving my point.
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>>343700045
Then he's a scapegoating asshole who doesnt mind shitting on something to try and validate their creation. Either way he needs to go back to hell.
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>>343699775
But their is multiprayer sirry
One prayer contrors the ship and the other fires the weapons.
It's a nice brend of teamwok
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>>343698745
>thinking a majority of fans from 64 were going to stack around 20 years for a sequel
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>>343700249
>Thinking they wouldnt
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prease buy my a shitty game

I know you guys have been asking for a new mario game a la galaxy and sunshine

I know you guys have been asking for a good paper mario game a la thousand door

but prease hear me out, I don't want to make money, I want to make shitty games for children, not my old fans.

so prease buy my a shitty star fox game
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>>343700236
No That's Co-Op.
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>>343698137
Can we please just put Aonuma in charge of nintendo in general? I think we'd do fine with him around.
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If Star Fox does get a future installment who should handle it?
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>>343699612
They give us F-Zero. Its everything we want

Speed, map. accelerometer and boost are all on the gamepad.


Gyro fucking controls
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>>343699131
>>343699267
>>343699489
I never liked the 2 screens concept. I think it simply doesn't work.

I don't remember ever getting annoyed I had to pause to look at a map or inventory. If you want to make something tense like keep looking at the gamepad for inventory and the game doesn't pause, what I heard Zombii U does, you can do that with a transparent GUI no problem, Dead Space had this already.

It simply is a solution to problems that never existed, to me.
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Reminder that this is the guy who wanted Link's Crossbow Training over a new Zelda game
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>>343700618
I'll stand by Platinum. Make it a furry-skinned sequel to Vanquish with vehicle sections.
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>>343700249
They already had like 3 sequels.
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>>343700671
>Game is slower than GX
>Miyamoto says this is because the game is meant to appeal to a broader audience consisting of casuals and children
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>>343700618
Platinum is fine, it's just they had to do the retarded gyro shit because that's what Nintendo wanted.
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>>343694206
>I think personally Star Fox is a really fun game if you sit down and play it.

Oh don't worry Miyamoto san, I did. The controls were terrible, I could barely do anything besides running into walls and getting destroyed by enemies, as I tried to shoot them with barely functioning aiming mechanics. This has brought much shame and disgrace to your family, and the Star Fox name. Please understand, and place Star Fox in the box next to F-Zero and Metroid onigaishimasu.
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>>343694823
Miyamoto didn't design anything and hasn't for the past 10 years. He strolls into the office, tells everyone they're doing a shitty job, and demands that everything be made more stupid, and strolls back out again.
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>>343700917
post more. Or Krystal
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>>343694206
>Game looks awful
>Reggie: "just play the game!"
>People do, and are surprised with how much fun the controls and gameplay are.
>Game has awful controls and gameplay
>Miyamoto: "just play the game!"
>People hate it BECAUSE they attempted playing it, and realized how bad it was for themselves.

That PR speak doesn't work for every problem Nintendo.
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>>343694206
P-p-please play my game with a POS gimmick c-c-ontrol scheme.

Sorry fuckos, you guys could get away with this in the past but there's just too many other options that don't force shit controls down our throats. You want people to play your games? Give them the fucking controls they want, and that is Star Fox 64 copypasta, not any touch screens or waggle or whatever
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>>343700997
>Please understand, and place Star Fox in the box next to F-Zero and Metroid onigaishimasu.
Pretty much exactly what's gonna happen. Federation Force or whatever the fuck it's called will be scapegoated so they never have to make a Metroid again since no one is gonna buy that shit.
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An option to use a regular controller and online multiplayer were the only things needed to make this game actually decent.

I feel like this can be said about so many games nintendo has released for the past ten years. It's such a shame.
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>>343700972
>Boosting cant kill you, Seperate meter altogether
>Walls on all maps
>Must play the track as intended no OoB
>Story mode is extremely forgiving.
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It saddens me how Nintendo used to have better controls than third party games and now they have worse. Mario 64 destroys games like Tomb Raider 1-2 and RE 1-2 in controls, and yet third parties learned and adapted their controls to what the players wanted. Nintendo meanwhile went off somewhere into where-the-fuck-ever.
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>>343700304
Then why didn't 643D or Zero sell well?
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>preconceived notions

Way to slap ALL THE PEOPLE YOU HURT WITH COMMAND SQUARE IN THE FACE.

And the people who played it without preconceived notions said it still played like barf.

The least this motherfucker could have done is apologize for going directly against the face of the amiable approach of SF643D like a fucking retard. But no.
Send him to the glue factory, make one of those tree pods out of him, whatever, his career is done.
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>>343698410
No we didn't. But we're gone now
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>>343701484
Nintendo also used to actually compete with the other big companies. Now they think they're above it all and can survive off gimmicks.
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>>343701543
More like this you lewd bastard
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>>343701660
The Wii ruined them.
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>>343694206
>Miyamoto tells me how I should have fun

Retire already Cenilemoto
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>>343700091
>Oh shit I said something stupid about a game people like
>Better back track years later
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>>343701543
m o r e
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>>343698292

What hentai is this
No sadpanda links, please. I am a fucking scrub.
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>>343699638
I think he saw Donkey Kong Country as a clone of Super Mario World since the gameplay is kind of the same, but where he is wrong it's about how the gamefeel is absolutely not the same!
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>>343694206

I like games with good gameplay, graphics, writing and longevity and SF0 has none of those. Will somebody please euthanize Miyamoto already?
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>>343698137
See? This guy gets it, and understands it. Off TV play is a great bonus, and its great that it is optional. In fact, it should be a solid option for each and every Wii U game, and you should never need both screens all the time to play the game.
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>>343698137
>You have your car's GPS system on your dash. If you had it down in your lap, you're going to get into an accident!
DESTROYED
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>>343695443
It would still be shit. Just copyupaste Starfox 64 and put it in HD for fuck sake
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>>343699638
>none of the three DKC games that Rare released in rapid succession were especially fun to play
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>>343701543
More Krystal
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>>343694206
>no.. it's the customers who are out of touch
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>>343702094
She's perfect
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>yfw you will see nintendo die in your lifetime
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>>343701543
Just when you think you aren't a furry...
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>Wanted to shut down evo
>Wanted to shut down lets players
>Censors their own games
>Literally telling porn artists "DELETE THIS"
>Releases shitty games and then pretends they're good and tells their audience "its your fault for not liking it"

Is there a company more disgusting than nintendo, and a fanbase more cucked than nintecucks?
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>>343702110
I was never into the Donkey Kong games. In fact Dk64 is probably the only one thats interesting to me and I only saw it for the first time in 2014 being speedrun


I prefer Metroid and Mario.
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>>343702110
I can understand they're no Mario game but I don't think they were mediocre.
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>>343702339
EA
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>>343699638
If he really felt that way, then why release the last 2 DKCs on wii and wii-u? Same old SNES DKC gameplay and sub par graphics.
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>>343694206
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>>343702448

Nope, EA has gotten their act together recently and they haven't done as much anti consumer bullshit has nintendo has these past 5 years.
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>>343702094
dump Krystal I need a fap
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Honestly, it's sad, it's really fucking sad when a legendary game designer like Shigeru Miyamoto would say stupid shits just for the sake of control damage...

I know no human being is perfect and everyone can make mistake, I'm aware that I just know him about his video games and his "cult" around him and Nintendo in general, but fuck sake I grew up with his video games, I grew up with Nintendo's video games and now I see someone who have created these fantastic video games being a fucking moron who can't admit he fucked up...

Truly, there are no hero in the video game industry...
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>>343694550

It's rare to hear an executive beg people to buy a game due to its negative reception. Ive actually only seen it from nintendo. Miyamoto isnt even admitting anything was wrong with the game. He's saying it's a good game and that the consumers are wrong.

This is so typical of nintendo. People have been asking nintendo to go back to making quality aaa single player experiences since the wii came out. And nintendo got such a little asian chubby for the new baby and elderly wii audience they abandoned their core market and never looked back. Now that the casual audience has abandoned nintendo nobody wants their shitty gimmicks and watered down toddler trash. But nintendos refuses to listen, literally having the balls to say the consumer is wrong and to buy the product anyway when they should be saying they hear the criticism and will take it to heart. Fuck these gooks
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>Miyamoto was the reason of SS' waggle controls and told Cuthbert to implement Command's touch screen controls
GET HIM OUT
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>>343700618
Sakurai obviously. Kid Icarus was the best Star Fox game
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>>343694206
>I think personally Star Fox is a really fun game
Well of fucking course he would say that, he developed the game and directly profits if it sells. Like, what are you even trying to say dude?
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>>343702486
got any of her fat butt?
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>F-Zero is dead
>Metroid is soon to be dead
>Paper Mario is also soon to be dead
>Now Star Fox is also probably dead

As long as Miyamoto is still working at Nintendo, I fear for Pikmin 4 and Splatoon's futures.
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>>343694206
>. I think, for example, an elementary school kid who plays it without any preconceived notions, I think it would be really fun for them. I think it’s also really, really fun for siblings to play it together.
Yeah its definitely a kids game because VIDEO GAMES ARE FOR CHILDREN YOU FAGGOTS
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>>343702623
I think its the fact that for the first time (I know its probably happened more) His games are being critized and disliked rather than being revolutionary. With social media and the internet more people are getting their opinions across.
People are expecting more from games and he just wants to keep trying gimmicks rather than sticking with what has worked before
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Miyamoto needs to step back and take more of an advisory role. He's out of touch and out of ideas.
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>>343694836

When are these dipshits going to understand that their market grew up and aren't children anymore? Even in the 90s when it was predominantly children playing nintendo games, they were infinitely more complex and less patronizing. Why do they insist that every game they make now must be completeable by infants?
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>>343702901

>MUH CHILDREN!

Poor nintencuck, have fun repeating your "videogames are for kids" mantra while the rest of the industry matures into an artform and nintendo is still stuck making children's shit (and violating your rights to protect their child audience as well).
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>>343702901
Then why the ESRB?
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>>343702963
Except at Nintendo you don't just "disregard Miyamoto's advice"
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>Sakamoto: "We have just launched Other M in Japan and I’ve been checking user opinions on the Japanese bulletin boards. What you say is definitely true; many of them are saying that they prefer Super Metroid. So it gives me some mixed feelings to hear that."
was he right?
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>>343702339
Konami
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>>343702894
>and Splatoon's futures
please let it be true
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>>343703071
In Japan you dont disregard anyone in the company who has more seniority than you. It's country-wide flaw of theirs.
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>>343702486
>>343702094
continue
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>>343703182
Well it is his feelings
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>>343695641

How is Miyamoto still employed? Everything he touches flops and invokes a response of desperation from people for nintendo to make actual games again
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>>343703195
Konami doesnt make games anymore, they forcefully removed themselves from the industry in a bloody and petulant manner so i'd hardly say they count anymore.
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>>343702901
>HURR DURR VIDEO GAMES ARE TOYS!
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>>343703264

did you get triggered nintencuck? It's okay you don't have to scream like an autistic child to get noticed, your mom hasn't taught you that?
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>>343703345
PR
If they fire him people will just spout "Nintendo is betraying one of their greatest workers and minds"
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>>343698870
Kirby's still really good.
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>>343703071
Say you are about a year into developing "X game franchise" and Miyamoto has been giving you crazy demands for gimmicks that HAVE to be implemented. You just hear the news that He has died.
>You have one more year of development
>Do you continue on?
>Or scrap every idea he gave and make the game the way your team wanted
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>>343696242
What fucking backwards world is this

We play a fun game as a kid
Then we eagerly await the next iteration of that game's mechanics and story
Then the series either becomes milked to all fuck with each game being watered down variants churned out every year, or they just don't ever make another one ever again
And when they finally do make another one we should "be grateful" that they had the good grace to bless us with the next game

It's like a fucking backwards religion
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>>343702998
Strangest part is Iwata KNEW this. In one of the Q&A's, he even explained that he timed Smash 4 and Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire's releases to be the same time of release that Melee and Ruby and Sapphire originally had. When asked why, he literally says "We should make games similar to the games that people grew up with, because those people are no longer children, which means they likely have jobs and their own money they can spend as they like." Dunno what happened to that idea.
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>>343703415
>gets blown the fuck out
>tries to shit post his way out of it
fuck off fat fuck
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>>343703431
He stopped having any involvement after the first one though. He said he didnt want to see it turned into a sequel heavy series so he just gave it to others.
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>>343703479
It died with him
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>>343703427
>typing in caps = screaming
sorry you've been triggered m8 time to turn off the computer.
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>>343699638
DK 94>Any Rare DK game
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>>343700249
That's exactly what happened with KI.
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>>343703481
No one was blown the fuck out anon, come on. Trying to say video games are for kids is just silly.
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Apologize

villainniggers and PMfags need not to apples
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>>343703195
>>343702448

No. See both konami and EA are shit, but they stick to their business.

EA fills their shitty games with microtransactions and season passes and always deliver incomplete products as a result, but that's their business and you're free to ignore them. Konami also ran all their franchises into the ground and treats their employees like slaves, but that is their business.

Nintendo, however, not only also does the same thing both konami and ea do (even worse since I haven't seen EA do physical dlc like nintendo does yet), but they also go BEYOND their business to fuck with you in things that they have no business sticking their greedy hands in, they're annoying and obtuse, and their anti-consumer practices literally go out of their way to fuck with your rights.

They're absolute cancer.
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>>343703638
>. Trying to say video games are for kids is just silly.
grow up you manchild.
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>>343703610
Are we talking about Kid Icarus or Killer Instinct?
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>>343699236
Just because you got used to the controls that still doesn't make it good
You can get used to eating shit does it mean it's good? fuck no
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>>343703481
Do you think someone here, on a board with as subject video games, with a lot of video game enthusiasts, will be agree about how video games are nothing but toys, especially when it was proven wrong long ago?
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>>343703182
Maybe he should've made a 2D game
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>>343703182
When did he say that? I thought Sakamoto was pretty tight lipped about the Other M fiasco
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>>343703742
Sure thing shitposter. Tell me when games like LISA or Bloodborne are for children. Or are you just gonna say "The gameplay is made for children" or some bullshit excuse. Whatever.
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>>343703303
b&
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I was thinking of getting it, it's just kind of pricey.
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>>343703182
It wouldn't have been nearly as bad if they hadn't butchered the gameplay and atmosphere but it was just insult to injury after how terribly written it was. I don't think fans would have complained about samus being more feminine in other m as much if it wasn't so ham fisted.
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>>343697924
>>343698292
hi cynical
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No, Shiggy, I already played it in 1997.
>but you can drive more shit
Yeah, the shit was in Star Fox 2 which you never released.

2016: The year of remakes.
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>Miyamoto: "PREASE RIKE THIS STAR FAUXZU, KIDS PREASE PRAY IT!!!!"
why wasn't krystal in this game?

game's so shit even she deserve to be thrown it
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Post Krystal
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>>343700249

What do you think they all died off or moved to another planet? I played star fox as a kid and would enjoy a good new star fox game. 0 sucked. Also I hate nintendo gimmicks. I'm literally the old audience and want good single player nintendo games that can be enjoyed by a person in their 20s. Considering nintendo has no market anymore besides people like me I think it'd be smart to try to cater to people like me instead of making games they think 5 years old will enjoy and then being disappointed when they decide to play club penguin on their iPhones instead
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>>343698870
>Meteos
>Melee
>shit
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>>343703415
How is this not a toy tho?
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>>343700917
>tfw no miyu and fay outside of SF2
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So how long before Miyamoto ruins Kirby?
Or how long before he forces himself on the Splatoon team, and tries to ruin Splatoon 2 when that time comes?
Can we even keep looking forward to Pikmin 4, knowing that this is the condition guy who is making it is in?
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>>343701580
What?
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>>343703740
There is no proof they were the ones this took down the porn and not someone pretending to be them. And judging that only fucking two pictures have been taken down, I suspect it is the latter

The Evo was just some lawyer dicking around using Nintendo's name. He was giving wrong advice, and got rightfully fired

NOA censors. NOA does not represent Nintendo as a whole.

As shitty as Amiibo is, I prefer it to season passes as there is much less content on it, and you already know what they offer.
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>>343702623

>tfw I used to adore him and Gabe Newell as well
>then this happens, along with Gabe trying to push paid mods

Like you said, they're just humans so I don't hate them for it, but why would you think either was a good idea?
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>>343700091
>>343699638
>Shiggy shits on DKC
>damage controls many years later
get this shithead outta here
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>>343701580

Because it's been 20 fucking years and nintendo should've improved upon the formula and offered a better gameplay experience instead of rehashing n64 games and making them worse somehow. I would've bought the fuck out of star fox adventures 2 on decent hardware. Instead nintendo admit they make games targeted towards elementary school children
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>>343704413
Yes?
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>>343704439
Kirby's been ruined since the Gamecube. Yeah, Kirby Air Ride was god-tier, but there hasn't been a traditional Kirby game in like 10 years. It's just an IP they slap onto some experimental platformers now.
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>>343704327
http://exhentai.org/g/850585/a8aae2a5d0/
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>>343704439
Pikmin 3 was good

I see no reason to fear for Pikmin 4

This is classic damage controlling, I don't know why everyone is overreacting
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>>343704495
How the fuck is less content supposed to be a fucking positive? Jesus christ.
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>>343704637
(You)
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>>343704614
what?
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>>343704415
Because video games are ludic AND narrative, it's not for nothing we call them VIDEO (Narration) GAME (Ludic)
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>>343699638
How can one man get so buttblasted?
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>>343704738
Not as much content is locked?

Hello?
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Miyamoto now knows you no longer want Star Fox because of how he botched the controls in it. It was never an option to just have good controls.
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>>343703878
here you go:
http://www.gonintendo.com/s/129461-sakamoto-on-metroid-other-m-the-birth-of-samus-warioware-on-3ds-future-metroid-installments-and-more
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>>343694331
The controls are the least of the issues Zero has

Game is piss easy, unimaginative, fewer unique worlds than 64, only one version of Andross, lots of bosses gets reused a lot, bosses are all bland, the warp portals amounted to fucking nothing, characters have less personality than 64, and the "improved story" Miyamoto said they delayed the game for isn't there at all.

Not to mention no sunglasses mode once you beat everything and no versus multiplayer.

It took me about 13 hours to get all 70 medals, and that's counting retries of certain levels until I got fed up and resorted to the guide where the answer was really retarded like 'let this particular enemy live'.

The game is just really disappointing and because of it I don't mind Star Fox, F-Zero, or other beloved IPs that don't get much sunlight staying dead so long as Miyamoto is around.
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>>343699983
So a Nintendo fan?
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>>343702042
No, that's part of why 0 failed. Please, PLEASE stop rehashing 64 and do something new.
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>>343704570
>>343704868
He was angry as they wanted him to emulate Dk's art style for Yoshi

And he wasn't referring to DK, he was referring to the industry as a whole.

This is taken out of context
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How about you just put out a fucking video game instead of an iPad/Apple TV sync-up bullshit? Innovation is great and all but holy shit you're trying too hard.
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>>343704979
Your kindness is only matched by your good looks and sterling intellect, anon.
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>>343704890
That all depends on how many Amiibos in whole it will utilize. Sure there's less on there but you're still paying for it and there's nothing stopping them from using multiple amiibo to lock different things behind them, which they already do.

You're so assbackwards i dont even know where to fucking start. Those things are indefensible and saying "well it's not as bad as x option" isnt an excuse.
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>>343704495

>As shitty as Amiibo is, I prefer it to season passes as there is much less content on it,
You know what I would prefer? Either release the content for free, or don't make it at all. We've gotten to a point where entire game modes are locked behind them, entire bits of DLC are locked behind them, and they announce it years before the game is even out, so there's no way they couldn't finish it before release.

This makes me just hate high budget games period. Indie games may get hate, but I can at least name 4 of them off the top of my head that have offered years worth of free DLC.
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>>343703273
In September 2015 his new title became "Creative Fellow"
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>>343705038
Basically any fanboy, yes
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>>343704347
>What do you think they all died off or moved to another planet?
They lost interest in video games/series/Nintendo why would anyone stick around for 20 years waiting for a sequel that's similar to 64? The Halo series already lost it's original audience in the span of a single generation after several sup-par games and CoD. A majority of sales from a series that sells millions are from the casual audience not core fans which Nintendo have both lost since the Wii.
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>>343694206
I can relate to that.
I don't have an enormous nostalgia boner for the old and horribly aged 64 game, so this felt pretty cool to play, especially the high speed sections.
I also enjoyed Assault a lot.
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>>343704570
>DK games have managed to be both innovative and constantly getting better since the Gamecube.
>Miyamoto constantly boggards projects and instills shitty gimmicks in them that ultimately make a mediocre game.
I hate this Japanese seniority meme.
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Elementary school kids want games where they can do anything like minecraft, his perception of kids is outdated
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>>343704495
>There is no proof they were the ones this took down the porn and not someone pretending to be them

Why would some random fucktard target completely unrelated artists? And why was it the people who had peach porn linking to their patreons (good ol' jewtendo not being able to stand seeing others indirectly making money off their "property")? If it's so easy to fuck with artists why has no one done this before, and why are artists who have a lot of haters (legoman, shadman, etc) not been attacked by buttmad haters wanting to see their blogs taken down for copyright infrigment? Also tumblr wont listen to DMCA claims unless they're filed by someone using a company domain email. So DMCA complaints filled by "[email protected]" get ignored.

Are you really this delusional nintencuck? It was Nintendo, no one else has this munch power.
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>>343705063
Pretty sure he's explicitly talking about DK. It doesnt take much to see he was shitting all over something to try and save face.
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>>343705143
You are arguing that they are the worst.

I am arguing that they are not. You fucking idiot.

>>343705164
Yeah, it's sad
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>>343705260
Assault's gameplay was an A+ in my book. The writing... Well, they certainly tried.
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i wonder how codycoyote64/PretendoAnon feels about this?
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>The game is good of you haven't played any games that are better
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>>343694206
I'd rather not.
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