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Is it better or more fun to play the Standard Sphere Grid or the Expert Custom sphere Grid in Final Fantasy X Remastered for the PS4?
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Fun is not using the sphere grid at all, or trying to get through the game with minimal grinding while occasionally remembering to manage the grid.

Here's my opinion on both grids:
>Standard grid allows you to get 255 of every stat and 99999 HP with little to no deletion of any nodes that offer minuscule points
>Expert grid allows you to get abilities earlier but you will at most get 45000+ HP and 255 of every stat except for the last one you decide to max out. You'll end up with 220+ for the final stat. Its possible to get 255 of every stat and 99999 HP but you'll have to start deleting and replacing nodes.
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>>343675793
>remastered
Don't do this to yourself. FFX original has the sphere grid too, HD just ruins the graphics.
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>>343676751
Bottom looks better, nostalgianigger kill yourself
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>>343677515
>bottom looks better
Hahahahah no.
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>>343677598
You're in every fucking FF10 thread you autistic piece of shit.
Seriously kill yourself since you have LITERAL fucking autism.
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>>343677741
Why are you sperging out? I'm just giving positive advice.
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>>343676751
>>343675793
>no having it on PC with face mods
fuck off
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>>343677904
What's wrong with his hair in the HD version.
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use expert and get black magic to yuna
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>>343677905
Face mods don't fix the face model. Or the sky, the lighting, the world textures, the FMVs, or the other characters.

>>343678348
Almost everything about the HD version is visually worse than the original game. The characters especially. Their hair, outfits, and faces are just worse.
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Watching this guy sperg out is always entertaining. I bet he also thinks the shitty dub is superior.
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>>343676751
>>343677515
top one compares to a scene from a decent series/movie

bottom one compares to a photograph of a theatre-set taken with the flash on

I agree with original version looking better. Observe the way the ground textures in the HD version are amped up while the wooden beams are lowered and look like absolute shit. The original version respects the equilibrium of texture quality they need to maintain for visually appealing graphics.

The remastered version is clearly a botched attempt at making it look better. I don't know how people can defend it. Hopefully The Zodiac Age will be able to present a clear improvement
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>>343679207
They didn't try to make it look better, they simply remade most of the game from scratch and because they're garbage developers they failed tremendously.
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>>343679927
>the clouds

that is actually offensive
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>>343678589
Damn, the remaster Tidus looks like a fucking sex doll.
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>>343680541
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>>343680541
>dat sky
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>>343681083
god why
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Does it run well on the Vita? And how do you buildd that damn smurf cat? He was deadweight when I played it on the PS2.
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>>343681103
>>343680541
looks like a fucking burnt marshmallow
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>>343681350
Not really and the graphics are worse.
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>tfw SE fucks up your favorite Final Fantasy ports/remakes
I hope 12HD looks and runs like shit, I want everyone to suffer from this shit.
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>>343676565
How is that fun?
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>>343676751
>>343677598
>>343677904
>>343678589
>>343680541
Remaster looks more like Kingdom Hearts' style.
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>>343682297
FF12 is a great looking game, they just need to up the resolution. and a option to invert the camera, of corse
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>>343682684
But no.
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We cant have these threads because of this fucking autist with his comparisons
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>>343680541
How did we go from which sphere grid mode to play to

>huur muhh graphics
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>>343682898
>this fucking autist
So most of /v/?
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>>343683054
see>>343677515
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>>343680541
I think some aspects look better and some look worse, it depends on where you're looking in the picture. Both have flaws and both have bonuses
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>>343682898
>this one guy that claims the remastered version is not directly inferior

go home sperglord ;^)
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>>343681083
Yea try playing the original on a widescreen or high def tv and compare the two. The original looks like shit on high def tv's.
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You'd have been better off playing XIII on PS3. It looks better and has nicer-looking hallways and a prettier cast
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Only real difference OP is where they start on the grid. In the classic grid, they all start at the section that fits their "role," ie. Lulu does black magic, yuna white magic, etc.

The expert one starts them all in the middle, so you have more choice in how you wish to build them. You could do a melee Yuna or casting Wakka, etc. I just played through it recently, and I ultimately ended up giving them all their usual roles anyway, so it didn't really matter.

As for how many of each type of node their are and your max stats, it's irrelevant. Once you get to the monster arena you can farm HP/strength spheres and max out your whole party in an instant.
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>>343682297
That and what they did to FF6 is the worst abomination known to man.
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>>343683498
>no twinks in a sports-car

why would i buy this shit???
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>>343677904
>>343677598
Wow it really does look worse. I thought it was memes to say that but seeing a comparison gif like this really makes it easier to notice. I had forgotten how good the old models looked.
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>>343678589
Tidus can't have both rows of teeth showing, it's a law. One or the fucking other
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>>343683498
XIII is trash with the whole only playing as one character at once and lightning is the single worst protagonist of all the final fantasy games. The playing as one character was forgivable in XII because the battle dynamics were different and you had mobility, XIII is the least interactive of all the games.
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>>343683216
There's literally nothing better about the HD remaster in that pic though.

>>343683396
So emulate it.
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>>343681083
>>343679927
>>343678589
>>343677904
>>343677598
>>343676751
Jesus fucking Christ.

>yfw these HD remaster version of Final Fantasy games will be some people's first exposure to the series

Fucking WHY

Did they outsource development to some shitty Chinese company?
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>>343682857
Wakka looks better and more human in the newer model.
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>>343683383
I didnt say anything like that id rather talk about the game rather then muh grafix
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>>343683794
>So emulate it.
Playing on a keyboard sucks, and pirates are destroying the video game industry. Fuck you.
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>>343683759
You haven't played nearly enough jRPGs if you think having control of only one character is a negative trait. Lightning is a shit protagonist but a decent character (at least in original XIII) ruined by the fact she's the waifu of the game's director and he wants to focus got damn everything on her
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>>343683901
>Did they outsource development to some shitty Chinese company?
Yeah.

>>343683996
Watch the cutscene with him and Lulu after he plays Blitzball, compare those scenes and come back to repeat what you said.

His face animates far less in motion, it looks jarring(same for every character) and he looks 10 years older than he is. Plus he's orange as fuck.

>>343684137
>keyboard
Good shitpost.

Play it on PS2 then. It still looks better than the HD remaster.
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The expert sphere grid isn't necessarily harder. If you have rpg experience one would argue it's easier because it let's you specialize sooner.
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>>343684041
Nobody is stopping you from doing that, the remaster poster isn't even shitposting.
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>>343684041
as long as there are people claiming the hd version is better in any way, there will be comparison posting every thread
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Standard. Its really linear, but it makes your party feel more diverse and useful since it takes much longer for them to all become the same. Kimahri is still shit though.
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>>343684262
>Yeah.

Why the fuck would they do that?
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>>343682836
>FF12 HD is going to look good
>every other FF remake is going to look like shit
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>>343684302
Can't you specialize in both grids if you grind enough?
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>>343684442
Because it probably cost them $20 and they have delusional fans who will eat it up.

>>343682836
>>343684461
They added a fuckton of blur, depth of field, and ambient occlusion to the HD version, and bloom. It doesn't look as awful as the other remasters sine the faces were left alone but it's not that good. It's very muddy.
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>>343684651
By endgame, you can do everything with every character. On the normal grid there are locked nodes that prevent you from moving between different sections of the grid early on, expert has a lot less of those.
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>>343684442
>The title's overall sales were cited by Square Enix as a reason for its improved financial situation at the end of the 2013/14 fiscal year.
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>>343684262
Which one is the HD one?
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>>343685158
Is that the FF7 remaster?
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>>343682641
It's more challenging to not use the sphere grid. You have to get inventive to finish bosses.
Abusing Items and Rikkus Overdrives is fun.
Though you should also ban Trio 9999 and Aeons, because they make shit too easy.
You can literally Trio 9999 + Attack Reels your way through whole the Game.
Where is the fun in that?

I did a no sphere grid Auron solo run (you have to allow Steal and Use, otherwise you get nowhere).
Though in that configuration, BFA and Dark Aeons are literally impossible.

Classic and Expert grid have little to no impact on anything.
In a normal run you never need more than 9999HP, including Dark Aeons and Penance.

What's fun though is to put Yuna on Aurons track, Auron on Yunas track and so on.
You end up with a hilariously stupid Bahamut that deals way more damage with simple Attack than with his crippled Overdrive.

>>343676565
There is no point in maxing out Accuracy and Reflex. And anything above 185 speed is useless as well. It wont give you more turns. 85+ Luck guarantees you can hit anything. Nobody needs critical hits.

So you can cut a lot of corners without loosing anything of value.
And as soon as you have 50k HP you can just use a HP Pill to get the 99k HP in Battle.
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>>343676751
>>343677904
>>343678589
>>343679927
>>343680541
>>343681083
>Anon why do you keep your old ps2? The ps2 is outdated.
>Get teh remasters anon
I'm glad I kept my ps2 so I can play final fantasy that doesn't look like shit. Also the hd version of X has different music. I prefer the ost from the original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK2NmXC6goU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6gg8pQm4fE
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>>343685287
I'll give you a hint. One of the faces is a shocked/surprised face, the other is just his normal face with an open mouth.
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>>343685591
>Also the hd version of X has different music. I prefer the ost from the original.

actually the ps4 version has a option to switch to the original soundtracks
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>>343686250
Because the majority of people who got the PS3 version complained because it's a shit OST. That guy is just shitposting.
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>>343684262
The one on the right looks much better, what is everyone bitching about?
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>>343686340
>>343686250
The PS4 version has even more improved graphics.
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>>343687639
Obviously not, read the thread.
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>>343675793

Always pick Expert grid, even if it's your first playthrough. Standard grid is almost a straight line, and the source of most complaints about X's leveling system. Expert grid actually lets you customize your characters to a reasonable degree.
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