is Akane bloodthirsty or stupid or what?
why does she try to get as many people killed as possible?
i miss best girl
;_;
I wish Diana would give me a nice blowjob and top it off with some anal
>>343666074
it was nice to see Junpei still had a sense of humor, neutered be it may
>>343666074
>Carlos pretends to rape Akane
>Talks shit about being a bad-ass detective who's seen some shit
>Junpei can barely give Carlos a black eye after multiple punches
Is Junpei the biggest bitch ever?
>>343666245
He's only funny in 999 because of localisation
>>343666235
we all do
>>343666074
c-ending turned into a huge cluster fuck after the six x-passes didn't work so then carlos took them to machines and then he had to go to different timeline to use the machine.
>>343666074
>Never has her mind wiped.
>Has access to a timetravel/reality changing device not constrained by causality and relativity
>Had Carlos, Maria and Junpei as prospects to help her on her plans
>Instead, decides to follow a bootstrap timeline whose endgame is always the destruction of the world
Akane is 100% retarded. In the C ending, VLR had already happened, and it clearly leads to a timeloop of the end of the world. Instead of changing shit around with all the new info she got, she instead decides to follow it.
What a complete idiot
>>343666349
your love for this woman who showed up for 3 seconds is pretty admirable desu
>>343666349
Who was this, again? A news reporter or something?
>Mira kills a lot of people in cold blood searching for happiness
>Akane plans a lot of deaths in cold blood searching for the happy ending without feeling any remorse(she gives no fucks about timelines where Junpei is dead or where she can't have an happy life with Junpei) and has no problem in killing D-Team with the reactor etc.
>Akane and Mira both keep secrets from other characters helping Zero. Mira doesn't tell that she isn't injected, Akane goes to the FtS meeting etc.
>Eric and Junpei only care about their lovers.
>They have no problem getting other people killed or killing other people just to save their "angels"
>Think their sappy stories justify their present behavior.
Mira/Akane and Eric/Junpei are the same, people just judge them different because they are fanboys
Did anyone else accidentally guess the Team D force quit password early because they played VLR?
A bit unrelated but I've never seen Saw, and I often hear this series shares similarities to it. Is it good?
>carlos why didn't you stop zero's plans
>I wouldn't have gotten to know you guys
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST CARLOS YOU IDIOT
>>343666491
That was Akane's mom killing herself after her husband was falsely covicted
>>343666437
what's not to love?
>short hair
>kept an entire news station on the air in spite everyone in it dying
>wasn't actually infected by radical-6, just chose to kill herself because there was nothing left
i just wanted to see her ring in the new year
>>343666527
Who judges them differently? All I see is how Eric and Junpei are fucking idiots (Eric being really annoying too) and that Akane is a bloodthirsty bitch who is also stupid, just like Mira.
>>343666074
>watching someone else play videogames
>>343666714
Not my picture, but with VNs, 70% of play time is watching cutscenes, so no great loss.
>>343666538
only reason I didn't was
>didn't know they could contain spaces
>didn't know what the brooch was called
>>343666578
>Akane why didn't you shift to a previous version of yourself and stop everything?
>>343666541
First one's alright. Then from there it's a steady drop in quality.
>>343666491
She shows up in VLR on the TV during the timeline unlocked at the end where sigma is with young akane about to be sent to the moon to work on the AB project because the world is destroying itself due to R6. She just shows up for a few seconds to announce that it's the end of the world and shoots herself.
>not even god can fix past mistakes
>the message is generated by Time itself through a bootstrap paradox
spooky as fuck, reminds me of "DO NOT MESS WITH TIME"
>>343666578
>tumblr?
Anyways, chill. It's likely that in another timeline, he did try. Uchi (or the writer he outsourced to) just needed some sort of way to justify Akane and Junpei being in VLR. Carlos was used for this end.After all, he just disappears afterwards and is never seen again
Was there any point with making Delta 124 years old?
Why did Carlos break the wine glass and have Junpei clean it up?
So Delta with his infinite complex wisdom can't find a single terrorist who is going to bomb the entire world. Even with his super Seanputer that can travel the universe and calculate every single reality.There is no single terrorist, the Shifters become that, right?
>>343666886
the game literally brings up that question of why the fuck didn't she SHIFT out of the incinerator or something in 999, making all of this irrelevant
this whole SHIFT thing was supposed to be a thing only phi and sigma could do; akane was never a shifter, she was an esper who could access the morphogenetic field
and she could only do so with 1) the sense of danger and 2) a strong emotional connection, which is why it had to be junpei
but no, now she's a SHIFTer and phi and sigma are SHIFTers and everyone is a SHIFTer
god
>>343667110
brother was explicitly stated to be insanely old in past games
>>343667137To hide them from the security cameras so they could slip the cards under their watches without Zero noticing.
>people don't realize delta is going to die before the terrorist goes full radical so it's impossible for him to find him
>>343667163
akane uses the resonance effect every time she shifts
>>343667156
He was just bullshitting them
He just relased Rad-6 to force Siggy and Akane to create VLR so he could be born
Im missing a fragement and i dont understand how I unlock it, the one where you meet delta face to face?
>>343667062
Carlos literally was lonely and enjoyed being a third wheel that he sacrificed 6 billion. him and eric are probably 4chan posters.
>>343667216
Jesus christ of course!
I was thrown when Junpei saidHe wish he'd been let in on the plan. But yeah obviously he must have received the card at some point.
Cheers anon
>>343667384
Carlos probably posts in "hug your imouto" threads on /a/.
>>343666541
>I often hear this series shares similarities
Not really.. every movie after the 1st one is basically the filmmakers trying to come up with more stupid ways to kill people with gore and nonsense
>>343667491
Sounds like ZTD to me.
>>343667287
isnt he still alive in vlr though
So Sean is Left, right?
>>343667287
he has so many resources that he should be able to come up with a better plan
>>343667287
Transporter. Set to blanket-result timelines, wait a day or two before using it again and again after it's recharged, internalized time schedule.
Duplicates upon duplicates upon duplicates of Delta all throughout the future, and only one has to return with the knowledge.
>>343667287
Wait, what was the point of making Deltas eyes purple?
>>343667384
Question: did he actually know about Radical-6 though? I know that he did fuck up and inadvertently allowed Mira and Eric to be killed and etc.
>>343667464
Nah man, Carlos seems more like the guy to post "Junpei>Carlos" and than have all these fanboys run to his defense. Eric probably reports waifuposts.
>>343667728
They forgot some textures.
D-Team best team
>We'll never see Phi in a swimsuit
>We'll never see Akane in a Yukata
>>343667062
Yeah that bothers me too. It's like what the hell does carlos do in vlr timeline? Why wouldn't Akane use him in her plans in vlr timeline?
>>343667287
Those are two fairly good counter points to complaints I've been seeing.
I guess also, because Akane can only see into various futures but doesn't know which one she's on till experiencing it, the best way for her to remain useful and in a position of control would indeed be to make sure VLR happens so that Phi and Sigma can be sent back to succeed in a different timeline.
Is there a legal reason why they can't say Marty's name but can get away with Batman and Superman?
>>343667895
That ending isn't leading to our VLR. It's leading to a bootstrap VLR where Akane has to do everything again, or rather, believes she does, because she's a fucking retard.
>>343667287
>>people don't realize delta is going to die before the terrorist goes full radical so it's impossible for him to find him
He has theAYYYtransporter andMIND HAX. Age doesn't matter.Also he could just start killing one random person in each timeline. In one timeline the terrorist dies.
In VLR why didn't Dio know they were on the moon or that it wasn't 2028?
I really appreciated the scenes of Sigma, Diana and Phi hugging once they realized that they're family. The lack of words made it have more of an impact, I think.
I am so happy
>>343668023
how is it not vlr ending? You have sigma arms blown off and eye missing. Well whatever.
>>343668062
I thought he did. He knew where the other outposts on the moon were didn't he?
The more I think about the plot the more I start disliking it. This game feels so disconnected from the rules VLR set up.
>>343668040
He can MINDHACK but it's a pretty useless power unless the person's holding a gun
>>343667665
I don't think it was stated he was still alive
lewd
Is Aksys not streaming the panel this year? They did last year didn't they?
Legit I need to ask again because this is confusing the fuck out of me, how do you get the fragment where you meet delta. As far as I can see i've done literally everything else but that's just not there
>>343668193
these comments remind me so hard from the reaction to VLR
literally same complaints
>>343668216
To be more precise, he can only mindhack Eric when he is holding a shotgun. A very specific useless power.
Wait, the entire point of VLR was that Akane couldn't SHIFT, and shifting took a lot of effort, the point Junpei, Clover and Alice lost access to the Morphogenetic Field because Ph and Sigma were leeching off of them.
So why the fuck can Akane shift effortlessly now?
>>343668161
It's the third loop. Akane's plans failed, so she's stuck forever doing them again and again, hoping that it succeeds eventually.
The problem with that is that this one bootstrap she's following will just lead to failure again.
In fact, the timeline where the world is saved has nothing to do with her plans at all. Carlos just wins a coin toss.
Akane could've saved the world by ignoring the bootstrap and doing a different future, but she's a retard.
>>343668278
I think AX is deciding not to stream some. Karen said it was up to them.
She's cute for a retard.
>>343668216
>but it's a pretty useless power
I'm pretty sure the reason Delta was even born was because people were pushed into a situation due to that very ability being used on them.
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>>343668163
Could've sworn there are some scenes he's in that they mention they are on Earth and that its 2028 and he doesn't chime in.
why didn't delta just hire junpei to find the terrorist
Damn brat
>>343668373
Because every brain is a quantum computer which means everyone can shift. The more people who can access the morph field, the more people can access the morph field and shift.
>>343668392
>Junpei died in countless timelines, got PSTD, became a ruthless cold Max Payne clone and experienced to apocalypse just to plow her pussy
Can't blame him though.
>>343668545
complex motives
>>343668373
>So why the fuck can Akane shift effortlessly now?
dire situation and surrounded by a bunch of shifter
in vlr, she isn't in dire situation, she behind all of that shit
Can someone please tell me how to get the 4th ending?
I have NO idea what I'm missing.
I fucking knew Delta was with the Q team even before the 4th ending, yet somehow I don't know how to move forward
>>343668216
MIND HACKing includes reading peoples' minds. >send yourself back to when you were young. >send your young self into the future again
>let him mindhack you for every information he needs to know
Boom, suddenly you are young againsort of
Hey I just finished itWhtat's up with Delta? was he in there the entire time?
>>343668475
To keep up the charade? If he said they were on the moon and in the future, it'd probably spoil Delta's plans if Uchi actually planned this ahead.
That or he was specifically told not to say anything.
>>343666235
10/10 would impregnate
>>343668646
who says he didn't do this already?
>>343667895
I honestly don't know if there's a such thing as an Esper power ranking, but I'd think Carlos would be pretty high up there and would be an asset. But his teammates don't see him that way. It's one thing for Junpei to reject his efforts, but Akane? She doesn't care and treats him harshly as well. He probably left for good afterwards to be with his sister, thinking himself too much of a fuck-up to be of any use.
...Or, would he just commit suicide? Who knows.
>>343668648
Yes. Didju rike it?
>Transporter sends a copy to the past/future
>not bound by shifting restriction
SO WHATS THE POINT HAVING THE GAME?
He doesn't even need to be born anymore. why not just abuse the transporter machine to send 1000000 of himself to certain time to stop the fanatic?!?
Just finished ZTD, I mostly really liked it. But it was easy to tell the game wasn't finished.
>Carlos is likable but he's basically perfect and his backstory goes nowhere
>Maria has a disease that is semi-similar to Radical 6, and also conveniently has the same memory loss/blackout effect that the bracelets do. A build-up that didn't get a payoff.
>Where did Carlos go in the VLR ending?
>No Kyle, no Clover, no Alice, no Left, no Santa, etc, at least in major roles
>Sigma's older consciousness was mostly pointless, he never made good use of his knowledge/experience, post-VLR young Sigma would have worked just as well if not better
>Akane never really shows her darker/machiavellian side, it's only occasionally implied by Junpei, and I guess all the murder-by-shifting she causes
>Mira starts out great but goes nowhere, wasted potential
>Radical-6 is a footnote
>Free the Soul is a footnote
>the VLR ending is too brief
>The twist is interesting but could have used better build-up, it wasn't as shocking or well put together as VLR's twists
>While Zero does make a strong impression in a short amount of time, he's essentially a literally who
>Ancient alien technology that is cool-looking but never explained
>The technology in ZTD in general is more advanced than VLR's, except the healing pods
>Game starts out with a lot of great violent scenes but they mostly vanish half-way through
>Puzzle rooms had some good ideas but often felt poorly paced, and often required you to click everywhere until you finally figured out what to do. They needed more playtesting.
>no secret/bonus endings
>epilogues are brief text entries (and there's nothing for Team D for some reason)
It has its strengths and weaknesses like 999 and VLR. Its heart is mostly in the right place, and if it had more time and a bigger budget it would be probably the best entry. But considering this is the real world, it's a bit weaker than VLR overall. This post is too fucking long, I'm so sorry.
All I've played so far is 999.
Can Junpei and Akane get a happy ending?
If not I will just drop this series now.
So if a sequel to ZTD comes out is it safe to say it's going to end up being 9 people forced to play another nonary game to find the terrorist?
>>343668648
I think it'sthat he was invisible to the cameras, because his shadow is visible in several scenes when he's off frame + "the truth is invisible"but yeah he was there
>>343668860
play the damn game. 999 is VASTLY superior to the other 2 games
>>343668716
Just arguing that he wouldn't need help from the SHIFTers at all.
>>343667887
If you take off Phi's coat thing it kind of looks like she's wearing a school swimsuit
>>343668373
it seems like akane could have saved the world if she just used teleporter and killed zero 10 months ago.
>>343668867
>Turns out the terrorist is just trying to prevent aliens from conquering the galaxy or some shit
>>343668791
>He doesn't even need to be born anymore
...yes he does
>>343668806
>carlos
>basically perfect
>10 MONTHS
>>343668860
They get married after failing to save 8 billion people. So yeah, kinda.
Is anyone else feeling that the ride up until the release was a much better experience than actually finishing ZTD?
>Uchikoshi left the game with a lot of unanswered plot points and complex asspulls with bad writing
>The blue bird in the cage is ZTD
>>343668893
>he was mind hacking us to not see him
I wouldn't put it past Uchi to use this as an answet.
>>343668938
If that's true then why should I keep playing them?
>>343668374
Damn thats unfortunate, gonna have to wait for the 999 news to be spread from sites then.
Where do you get the password for Q's force quit box. I've gotten some hints as to which fragment it's in but I don't have the fragment unlocked and from the looks I have literally nothing else I can do, the only thing to do now is open the box but I haven't gotten the pass.
>>343668216
He gives Dio orders personally in VLR.
>>343668648
he was Q and yes no one talked about him because he was deaf/blind/couldn't walk.
>>343669076
You shouldn't.
>>343669076
Because the other games are still good, despite 999 being better.
>>343668806
>Sigma's older consciousness was mostly pointless, he never made good use of his knowledge/experience, post-VLR young Sigma would have worked just as well if not better
Fucking this
HALP, how the fuck do in unlock zero's identity ending, i already know that the other 5 endings, i just need q force quit pass
What does Dianas feet smell like?
>>343668731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zAU7tZnCcQ
>>343668938
I disagree. The gameplay is unquestionably the worst in the series and the twist is too gimmicky.
>>343669185
foot
Chuckled.
>Akane, Sigma and Phi plan for 45 years to stop brother and Free the Soul
>Clueless Junpei destroys their HQ
>Clueless Carlos wins a coin toss and saves the timeline
>Sigma, Phi and Akane, for five fucking days, with 45 years of knowledge, and knowing that brother is an extremelly old man, never once suspect the extremelly old man who is there with them in DCOM for no reason.
Holy shit the VLR cast is fucking useless.
If Akane had taken Junpei, Carlos and Maria to the moon, the world would've been saved in seconds.
Also, she never thought of using the fucing transporter she obviously knew about and had access to? NEVER?
A fucking machine that disrespects all known laws of physics, and can alter any timeline or history, and she's like "Ah who gives a shit"
>>343669101
Check every single fragment in every team. If it doesn't have the thick border around it, either something new or missing.
Otherwise, make sure every tea. Has been executed by the Team Decision Vote
>>343667749
considering how many timelines he jumped it seems like he would
>>343669185
USED
>super secret elite government agency tries to infiltrate an FTS facility and the agent gets captured immediately, almost as though they knew it was coming
>big ol' retard seven and edgemaster boozehound junpei blow up their HQ off screen by themselves as fucking detectives
>>343669167
I have no idea, I'm in the exact same boat
What happens if you putMira in the "who killed Junpei" question?
>>343669219
>The gameplay is unquestionably the worst in the series
>999: replay the game 4 times edition
>vlr: BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP
>>343669219
>999 has the best twist by far. It's the one thing aside from the god tier atmosphere it has above VLR and ZTD.
>>343669167
3808-0832
>>343667163
>akane was never a shifter
Said who? The reason that child Akane never shifted can be because she couldn't, at that time, and needed training, just like Sigma and Phi couldn't shifted before VLR.
just imagine FTS planning the whole thing
>uh...mr. brother, you want to just pretend to be retarded and stay with them for five days then hope they don't suspect you once?
>Yes.
>>343668731
Yeah carlos kept all his memories and kept jumping. Has anyone done that?
EXPLAIN THIS VEE
>>343669402
The reason child Akane never shifted was because Uchikoshi hadn't written the shifting gimmick yet.
How come Akane never tells Sigma and Phi "Hey fuckers, make sure not to let Mira inject you with anything". Like, they must've told Akane what happened, and Akane never had her mind wiped.
Man, had so much fun solving rooms and drinking with friends yesterday.
They couldn't give shit about me enjoying the story, but joined in on every puzzle.
>>343668373
>In fact, the timeline where the world is saved has nothing to do with her plans at all. Carlos just wins a coin toss.
Uh isn't that the one where the religious fanatic nukes 8 billion?
>>343669298
Nothing
>>343669035
>Is anyone else feeling that the ride up until the release was a much better experience than actually finishing [insert any highly hyped game here]?
You have nine seconds to name a game where this isn't the case.
But honestly /v/'s pre-release ZTD threads were often pretty awful, the post-VLR threads were way better.
>>343669275
What did Alice's dad die for again?
>>343668806
A lot of those complains seem like nitpicking or straight autism.
>>343668154
>3ds
>>343669243
I have exactly one fragment without a thick border and it's the coin flip where i've already done both branches. I have no idea what im missing.
>>343669541
What a disappointment.
>>343669039
Delta is aware of the player's involvement ("perhaps they are the true culprit"), and the only way he can enact his plan is by hiding from the player in plain sight. By the time the reveal happens it's all too late
Delta not only tricked everyone in the shelter but he also tricked you into doing exactly what he wanted you to do
>>343669185
what does akane smell like?
>>343668938
Bullshit, VLR is where its at.
>>343669448
I don't get it
>>343669284
fuckin shit guys, i really need to end this fuckin game. the only thing i miss in the flow char is who is zero and focer quit Q,
>>343669018
>Q comes back but ends up becoming a total retard like Akane
>Gets played by an even more C O M P L E X rusemaster
>>343669242
>Sigma, Phi and Akane, for five fucking days, with 45 years of knowledge, and knowing that brother is an extremelly old man, never once suspect the extremelly old man who is there with them in DCOM for no reason.
Yeah this pretty much kills it for me
Also, aside from getting dick, wouldn't it have been MORE beneficial to Akane to take Junpei to the moon with her in the C ending?
They both knew and experienced the entire thing, and the emotional connection between them makes their powers stronger.
Also, since Maria's illness is due to her not controlling her powers, Akane could take her and Carlos to the moon too, train them and then freeze them in carbonite like she did to Sigma. That way there would be no need to kidnap Clover and Alice.
Also, why didn't she use the transporter to do anything in that timeline?
>>343669356
i know the answer, but where i'm suposed to get that number?
>>343669019
Y'know, it would've made for a good character arc for Carlos too. His naivety and tunnel-visioned heroism isn't always the right way, but up until ZTD it always has worked for him. This was never exactly explored, but highlighted as a problem in the C-end. What does he get from it beyond "I'm a goddamned fuck-up..."? Ugh.As always I wish this game didn't have to be cinematic. It clearly takes too much budget putting complex backstories, character development, and, uh, motivations in
>>343669332
>TWO SCREEN NIGGA WOAH
It's a shitty gimmick twist. Get over it.
It felt weird to me how no one from D team seemed to react to Delta suddenly being their son/brother. Phi lashed out I guess, but I felt like it was a very undeveloped plot point.
>>343669856
its obvious when you find it. you're missing a fragment
>>343669643
>perhaps they are the true culprit
Guy's talking about not blaming Q-Team for betraying them and talking about himself becauseMIND HACK
>>343669218
Wait,
If Carlos had prevented the Mars Test from happening.
Then he never would have found the fax machine and been unable to stop Zero right?
Or am I getting the rules mixed up?
>>343669856
Did you execute D team?
>>343669806
Don't forget that Sigma and Phishifted, master jumpers at this point, shift a grand total of one (or was it two?) times I'm an environment where their shift powers should've been hypercharged, and C team wings it instead.
>>343669938
i only have who is zero question icon and force quit Q, or i missed something at some point?
>>343669227
Can you answer Mira to that?
>>343669976
If not replay the execution decisions for carlos and Q and choose D team for both and you;ll get a cutscene
>>343669759
did you have the diana drinking cutscene?
>>343669303
I don't see how your greentext is an argument.
In 999 you have to repeat a bunch of escape rooms and slowly go through text. In VLR and ZTD you don't have to repeat any rooms and the text moves a lot faster.
Plus VLR and ZTD have more player interaction overall. Lots more choices, stuff you have to memorize between routes, more narrative non-linearity, etc. 999 doesn't even trust you to put in the code for the coffin. It follows standard VN conventions too closely. The puzzles are also mostly bland and simplistic, VLR and ZTD's puzzles are generally much more interesting.
I love 999 but the gameplay is the worst part. Subjectively and objectively.
>>343669916
What would you do to a 124 year old son that wanted to kill you and other people and created a timeline where you fucked your live over trying to avoid a tragedy he started? Spank him?
I might be in the exact same seat.
>>343669938
there's a few of us missing that fragment who can't seem to get it. i looked up the password and put it in, now I have ONE single thing that I haven't viewed and its what you unlock after you put that password in. the flowchart and every fragment says i've done every other choice.
>>343669484
That's the real reason, not the in-universe one.
>>343669806
When that twist came up I couldn't believe it.
Like, they lived together for 5 days. Akane, Phi and Sigma were there JUST to stop R6 from being released. They knew about brother, and they knew that:
>It couldn't have been Junpei or Diana
>It couldn't have Akane, Sigma or Phi
So that left: Mira, Eric, Carlos and OLD MAN WITH PURPLE EYES
>>343670084
yup, i repeat, i only have who is zero question mark and force quit Q question mark on the global chart, 3 fragments missing (one for each team) did i miss the hint?
>>343669484
There was plenty of shifting in VLR, it was just called "jumping".
Anyone really sad it's over? It got more and more insane so maybe it was for the best, but all three games were fucking beautiful experiences.
>You will never be able to enjoy a ZTD thread because half of the comments are always someone saying they're stuck
Honestly, this just means the game is badly designed.
>>343670030
I couldn't take the game seriously at all because of that. Sigma and Phi from the start could just use their SHIFTing powers to avoid dying and find information, but then they act as though they never went through the events of VLR.
Sigma is such a dumb dumb
>>343670102
anon, I'm replying to him by showing him the worst parts of each game he praises
I agree that ZTD has the best gameplay
Would you guys be happy if we get another game in the series that simply retcons this one?
>>343669035
I'm pretty sure someone already made this post several times. Anyways, yeah, I feel the same.
It's a bit of a vicious cycle too--needing to cope, and returning to this thread just because pre-ZTD I had such good times just...waiting for the game, as if I'm trying to shift back to that point of time.
Hype's a cruel mistress.
>>343670232
use logic, anon, and look at akane's anagram fragment again
Is full soundtrack out?
That remix of 999 main theme was cool as fuck.
>>343670276
I agree, I enjoyed this short ride.
>>343670276
It hasn't sunk in for me yet. The disappointment, anger, and lack of resolution makes it hard for the sadness over the end of a series I've loved like few others for the past 5 years to properly sink in. We have a Q&A and the remake, so I guess we're not really saying goodbye, but I am aware that the story is very likely over; it just hasn't really sunk in.
>>343670404
we pretty much asked for that, that's the setup of VLR for VLR
>Junpei and Carlos are bettter at, and do much better use of SHIFTing than Sigma and Phi
I like them both as character, but Sigma and Phi are fucking useless, and Akane should've taken Junpei and Carlos to the moon with her instead.
>it was thanks to the support of fans that this project was completed
>thanks from tbe bottom of our hearts
aww thats so sweet
>>343669579
I miss 999 and VLR when shitters like you didn't find it and started console war shit.
>>343670404
Maybe if it's actually made by the original designers and not some random team.
Why didn't Sigma shift when he got shot by the revolver?
>>343670528
Yeah, but VLR was good. ZTD is just meh.
>>343670120
I expected at least Sigma to say something about it, like saying how he couldn't be his son or something, exactly because of what you said. It was just a pretty moot plot point overall I felt.
Also the fact that he shot Sigma and not Diana seemed weird. Did he have any reasons to hate Sigma?
>>343670579
Why didn't Phi SHIFT when she got burned alive?
Why didn't Sigma SHIFT when she got burned alive and say "WAIT, PHI, IF YOU GO IN THERE YOU'LL BE BURNED ALIVE!"
>>343670404
>original artist
>original writers
>original VN style
I don't want a ZE4 at all, I want a redo of ZTD.
you people are retarded, 999 and VLR had the same problems with plot, you're only judging this more harshly because it's the last one
I have a question.
I left 4chan like 1-2 weeks before 28 to avoid spoilers. I remember, that this day someone posted a few pics of Sigma on the torture chair talking how maybe there is a way to avoid every death in this game and he started describing how to rig decision game.
Some people were reacting to it how is this working and form where are these screeshots, but I left after this, to not see anymore spoilers.
And in the actual game there was nothing like this.
Anyone remebers what I am talking about?
>>343670059
Think you can but it says 'dead can't do such things'
>>343670414
ok thanks, i tought that maybe there were another scene more specific saying who is zero, i didn't realize that you're suposed to know who is zero after that scene
What exactly did Carlos do wrong? He literally saved 2 billion people and kicked off the events that allowed the Decision Game to exist. Without the "10 months" humanity would've never been saved.
Is this just a meme?
>>343670579
who said he didn't?
>>343668806
I like to think some of the unexplained or undeveloped shit, including Kyle, Carlos and Maria, along with the other older characters, do have some purpose we don't know yet, and that even Free the Soul+that fucking terrorist actually will be expanded upon in another game...but ZTD's the end of the road.
>As Dio says, "Boo fucking hoo." (Except I don't mean it sarcastically)
>>343670804
wrong timeline, anon
see you on the flip side
>>343670705
Maybe he is mad he exists because of Sigma and Sigma is the one that sent him to the past, assuming he even knows that
I thought they only had enough food for 9-10 months, how'd they survive almost 12 with a pregnant woman? I know new models are hard to do/make but the fact that they look the same and didn't figure out the lounge trick after being there for almost a year bothered me.
>>343670190
I wonder if he defecated during those 5 days.
Diana with her Nurse training would likely be the one who has to do something about it.
Having to sit there all silent while your 20 something year old mother wipes your shitty asshole and the room reviles in disgust.
>Jokes on you guys, I was only pretending
>>343669130
Which team was he on? How come no one found him suspicious?
>>343670874
he could have stopped zero and kept everyone alive but that is debatable because the religious fanatic would still have nuked everyone.
>>343670705
>I expected at least Sigma to say something about it, like saying how he couldn't be his son or something, exactly because of what you said
That's probably because he isn't delusional enough and realizes is the true. Sigma is an old man, not a manchild.
>Also the fact that he shot Sigma and not Diana seemed weird. Did he have any reasons to hate Sigma?
He probably ended up killing everyone in the end. He may had a soft spot for her mom because she named him, and his father liked Phi quite a bit more.
>>343670738
Can you just imagine Diana trying to choose during the incinerator dilemma and then suddenly sigma and phi say
"Wait! This is our chance!"
And they just kill themselves.
downloading the pc release right now. i'll be off /v/ until i finished it. i'm tired of getting spilered
>>343670874
the joke is that akane is extremely unfair to him for almost no reason
>>343670278
I only briefly got stuck in the flowcharts, but I constantly got stuck during puzzles. The game needed more playtesting. The escape rooms would have probably been better than VLR's if they were better explained and paced.
>>343670880
Because he doesn't do shifting shenanigans like C-Team.
>>343670874
VLR is still a bad end, they need The Final Solution.Nazis
>Jumpy, did I ever tell you about the time I spent 45 years on the moon training two people to come back to the past and stop a mastermind from Free the Soul, and then when we got here we lived for 5 days in DCOM but neither one of us ever suspected the weird and suspicious old man that was there with us.
>And then you did a better job of stopping Free the Soul than any of us, without having any knowledge of any of this
>That was a good timeline
how the fuck do you get ending 4
how can i have done literally everything according to the flowchart EXCEPT meet delta face to face
>>343670190
>OLD MAN WITH PURPLE EYES
What? You mean that blind, deaf, mute, crippled old fart that, for some reason, is part of a simulation of a MISSION TO MARS could do be the bad guy?
Gonna shift to the timeline where phi is real any anons wanna join me
>>343671235
He's not a bad guy, he just has complex motives
>>343670276
Not really, ZTD was quite disappointing all things considered, but I recognize the fact that it could get far, far worse. It's better for it to end here
The game is conclusive enough an ending for me, where you can imagine that just about anything is possible in one timeline or another, so whatever you want to believe happened is what happened.
>>343671262
How?
>>343671262
Already have the gun at my temple
The more SHIFTers we get the faster we'll achieve
>>343671309
Schrödinger's cat
>>343671235
I seriosuly can't believe this is actually canon.
45 fucking years. Two time loops. 6 billion dead.
And Akane, Phi and Sigma never said "Wait a second, why is an old man the same age range as brother, who we know is going to destroy the world from here, part of this simulation?"
Also, if the test site was run by Free the Soul, how did Junpei manage to "force his way in"?
>>343671016
As long as the religious fanatic shit is true, the Decision Game is absolutely neccessary.
Which means that Carlos essentially saved the world.
With friendship.
How lovely.
>>343670467
Nvm, found the track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn7qfJH514g
>>343671291
He's not a bad guy
He's not a good guy
He's a complex guy
I don't understand Phi's brooch but maybe that's just cause of time shenanigans.
Where did it come from? Diana got it from Phi's ashes, then gave it to baby Phi who in turn would give it to Diana.
There's no origin for it.
And what's the significance of the Latin? Not even Jupiter can grasp a lost opportunity? What does that have to do with anything?
>>343671037
>That's probably because he isn't delusional enough and realizes is the true. Sigma is an old man, not a manchild.
I didn't mean it in a literal sense, more like "I can't believe my son turned out to be the man that's behind it all" kind of outburst.
I've never been so disappointed by a third game in a trilogy before, and I played ME3.
Seriously, I could list a trillion issues with the game and a bunch of different twists which, not only being marginally more intelligent than some of the nonsense we got (e.g. COMPLEX MOTIVES), but would have been more interesting.
I mean, fuck, we never even saw the reprecussions of shifting at all, when there were numerous opportunities. What the fuck man?
Also Zero killing Mira and Mira killing Junpei were the worst 'twists' ever and a total copout, when there was plenty of interesting alternatives that could have been done instead with the transporter (in Junpei's case), a shifter from another timeline, or something like that. Optionally, Junpei's case could have been explained alternatively by something actively happening in the lost time (used by their future selves) instead of 'lolkilledinhissleepbyMira'. Wasted potential. Heck, originally I thought that transported Phi killed Mira, since she's the only one who'd know how to open the golden doors, wanders off on a couple occasions alone, and the secret behind the structure of the rooms isn't applicable unless you destroy the wall display, which deactivates it for the whole shelter.
>>343671648
bootstrap paradox for the brooch
>>343671648
>And what's the significance of the Latin? Not even Jupiter can grasp a lost opportunity? What does that have to do with anything?
Did you play VLR?
>>343671648
There's no origin for the entire story.
The brooch is just part of that. The entire thing is a bootstrap paradox. The decision game happened such that the decision game would cause the decision game.
>>343671227
Whats ending 4? Do you have passwords to input? Like in the secret door or something?
I miss digital roots.
>>343671779
i gotchu senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spsY11KIFDM
>>343671474
>old man the same age range as brother
They must thought Q was in his 80's 90's and would die soon enough.
After all at one glance who would think, "Yea this blind, deaf guy is gonna live till 2074 and is the leader of a terrorist religious cult."
Mira also comments that someone as inconvenient as him was put in Dcom to test them on how they dealt with difficult situations.
>how did Junpei manage to "force his way in"?
He was allowed to "force his way in" since it was all according to plan.
>>343669448
3ds version was leaked on the ... 15th?
>>343670404
No, not at all. If there's a ZE4, it just needs a bit more time and money, and more leeway to flesh out the writing. Uchi shouldn't be afraid to have more talky scenes, longer endings, and fleshed-out epilogues. I can understand why ZTD had cinematic style cutscenes, but going back to something in line with VLR would be fine too. Or something else entirely.
I do love that every Zero Escape game is so distinct. I don't want a Danganronpa or Ace Attorney (1-4) situation where they basically just swap out the plots/characters and only slightly shake things up.
>>343671474
>Wait a second, why is an old man the same age range as brother, who we know is going to destroy the world from here, part of this simulation?"
They should've been behind7 MIND PROXIESto stop himMIND HACKINGthem.
Friendly reminder that Gab MIND HACKING Delta to set him up as the mastermind would explain many plot inconsistencies
>>343671694
I actually thought that when Eric shot Carlos, Junpei and Akane would materialize from the machine.
Nope, I guess, since we got ten months instead.
>>343671907
>>343669448
Plus, review copies were out on vita for about a week prior.
Anything else you'd like your infantile mind to have explained?
So it seems like normal Shifting isn't enough for you...so how about I take it to the next level
>>343671694
Fuckery with shifting and transporters would have been amazing. I mean, you could have people from other dimensions killing themselves or others, changes in morals, or grudges at the end of a particular timeline. Then you could have the character confronting their former selves.
Heck, in trying to fix the game, you could probably get away with making Zero be Akane yet again, who would have legitimately complex motives, her goal being to 1. secure humanities future in the timelines where she fails (two billion v.s. dead humanity), 2. to perfect the epitome of esper abilities, so that they can freely store and access all the possible futures involving themselves in the morpho field (as they could by halfway through ZTD), seeking the 'best' possible future for themselves, and 3. to bring an entity that supercedes a shifter (the player), by having a shell access the morpho field with no consciousness, and thus is filled with pertinent information, kinda like ? was in the end of VLR. Since they're literally the morpho field, they're is able to view everyone's past, present, and futures, not just their own, and communicate with any of the espers. This entity is needed because they dude who'd set off the nuke is a powerful shifter himself, and so only by invocation of literally a higher power than an esper would it be possible to get rid of him in all, but a single timeline (or however many times Akane has repeated this process), making the chance that he escapes and sets off the nuke 0%.
Wham, suddenly I made the entire game coherent and 20x better. Better than COMPLEX MOTIVES and MINDHACK, at least.
![2015-02-25-brock-walk1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/t0s1V03.jpg "2015-02-25-brock-walk1[1].jpg")
>>343671602
reeeee
>>343671885
Alice says that he's of advanced age, and she was from 2028.
>>34367147
>blaming them
The entirety of VLR and ZTD is Diana's fault.
>>343672103
>>343671907
Look at the time in that picture.
>>343672207
>grudges because of time fuckery
VLR already pulled this off when Phi says Sigma will layer betraying her. ZTD fucking regressed from the pervious game.
>>343668545
BOOTSTRAP PARADOX
Who was the robed person that killed Sigma and Phi? Mira? Seemed too short
Someone refresh my memory: Why didn't Junpei know about Santa/Aoi when he and Akane were kids? Surely he would have been around the both of them.
>>343672394
Probably changing the CSS and screencapping.
>>343672471
It must have been her, Zero said he allowed her to roam freely, or something like that?
>>343672471
Delta says in one of the endings that it's Mira.
>>343671885
They should'nt assume any fucking thing. They planned 45 years to stop Brother's plans, and then they get there and do fuck all for 5 days.
ALSO, HIS NAME IS FUCKING "Q", AS IN THE THE FINAL ROOMS FROM NONARY GAMES. THAT SHIT IS SUSPICIOUS AS ALL FUCK. The moment they met him, Akane should've sent a message to her brother through the morphogenetic field saying "Run a background on this weird purple eyes monster looking fuck that's in here. His name is Q and I think he's brother."
>>343672471
Mira is the only one who fits the bill, but yeah, it looked like a clone of Phi/Diana.
Half-expected a rogue transported clone.
Anyone else kinda pissed about the fact that 50% of ZTD's soundtrack is just rehashed from VLR? The atmosphere of these two games is completely different. Remixing is good, but outright copying songs? Come on.
