Is there any RPG with good combat system?
>inb4 Dark Souls
enemies have such delayed reaction you can just run past them and roll - backstab is hardly engaging you dumb fucking fromdrone
>inb4 MNB Warband
it had a great idea but the animations are stiff
No, there has never been an RPG with a good combat system.
>>343629797
>MNB Warband
well you dismissed my favorite one, so maybe dark messiah?
>>343629797
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
>>343632073
>>343632234
Isn't Dark Messiah more of a hack and slash with some RPG elements than RPG game?
>>343632436
If OP thinks Dark Souls is a RPG, DMoMM fits he bill too I'd say.
FUCK THE KING'S GUARD
FUCK THE CITY
FUCK THE KING
MNB: Bannerlord
>>343629797
Kenshi if a squad based RPG you play from a birds eye view.
It's a lot more interesting than it sounds.
Bloodborne.
>>343632591
Dark Souls is an RPG first and foremost because stats and builds actually matter. (Vigour/Vitality for Health, Endurance for Stamina, Strength/Dexterity to deal damage and use better weapons)
Dark Messiah is an action game with emphasis on environment and physics, RPG elements like skillpoints take a backseat because you only get them at specific points in levels. It's essentially the same thing as AssCreed Unity/Watch Dogs where abilities are locked behind skill trees. It's still an action game.
>>343632786
If any more words come pouring out of that cunt mouth of yours, I'll have to eat every chicken in this shop.
>>343629797
Dragon's Dogma.
>>343632436
Dark Messiah is a traditional RPG game.
Dark Souls is a game that pretends to be an RPG by stealing the D&D stat system and fucking it up the ass.
>>343633043
lol
>>343633043
>DnD stats system
>Thinks DnD came up with stats
>Thinks DS uses any RNG in stats
No.
>>343629797
Chivalry if you're under level 15
after that, the combat is complex enough to where high level pros can do these 360-noscope-switcheroni-pistolwhip movements that just fuck a player in half and they'll never understand what had even happened, i personally enjoy the fact that i can participate in that part though
>>343629797
Dragon's Dogma. it's basically Capcom action game in open world rpg setting
>>343632975
>Dark Souls is an RPG first and foremost because stats and builds actually matter
Given how little difference I saw between my initial DS3 run and my deprived level one run, I don't know that I agree that much.
And builds matter just as much in DMoMM I'd say.
>>343632975
Actually it's a JRPG
>>343633043
>Dark Souls is a game that pretends to be an RPG by stealing the D&D stat system
I failed to see a Dark Souls thac0.
>>343633306
mah nigga
>>343632786
How did he not get shot in the face for saying that?
>>343633486
>and fucking it up the ass
>implying anyone understands how thac0 works
>>343632140
>>343632234
This
>>343633043
>Dark Souls
>Stats, levels, and builds actually matter
>Boss with health bars
>Linear dungeon crawler level design
It's an RPG/3D Metroidvania
>Dark Messiah
>Physics
>Environmental hazards/kills
>Get skillpoints after reaching a certain place in a level
>Mission based
It's an open-ended action/adventure game not unlike Thief or Dishonored
>>343633369
>SL1
Because you can totally use great weapons, halberds, and magic at SL1, right? More stats = better survivability and more options. Builds matter.
>>343633009
Get out of here no fast travel and if I have to listen to my companion say Harpy one more time I want to stab my self with a spoon
>>343633043
>Dark Messiah is a traditional RPG game.
>Dark Souls is a game that pretends to be an RPG by stealing the D&D stat system and fucking it up the ass.
The fuck you smoking
Both games are ARPGs
>>343633530
They were too focused with stannis about to bust through the door
>>343633593
Dark Messiah is an RPG
buuut its not openworld and is linear
you still get to have decisions and character building effects the gameplay more than most the RPG games
>roll dagger assassin character
>in late game, get spotted by an enemy
>he shouts "assassin!"
I just purchased Dark Messiah
What the hell is this multiplayer thing downloading
>>343629797
Divinity: Original Sin
I still need to beat that game but I keep rebuilding my team.
>>343629797
Legend of Zelda
>>343633530
Because they were in a battle and the last thing anybody needed was infighting, least of all against a psycho badass like the hound, most of the people who would carry out that order just watched him kill like 15 people, he straight up cut a dude in half
>>343633654
>playing with companions
>doesnt know about ferrystone
>>343633530
Because he's the hardest man in all of Westeros, no sane man would fuck with The Hound
>>343629797
objectively, witcher 3
soulsfags may refrain from posting outdated webms
>>343633759
How the fuck is DM an RPG?
>Skill trees
Dishonored, Watch Dogs, Mirror's Edge: Catalyst and recent AssCreed and Far Cry games must be RPGs as well, then.
>>343629797
dragon's dogma. feels clunky at first, but becomes great once you get the hang of it.
don't listen to these skyrimbabbies with their "hurr durr no fast travel". there is fast travel, you just can't do it anytime and anywhere
>>343633789
multiplayer is, take a fucking guess: multiplayer
nobody play it though so dont waste disk space and play the adventure of sir kickalot instead.
>>343633923
>there is fast travel, you just can't do it anytime and anywhere
You can if you cheat engine in warp stones in the beginning
Makes the game infinitely better, trust me
>>343633923
>feels clunky at first
what the fuck do you compare it to? an fps? it's all right.
the ui is a travesty though.
Divinity 2
Dragon Age Inquisition
>>343633582
Yeah right I don't have my battered, duct-tapped to hell and back, original AD&D manual sitting right on my shelf here.
That book alone has probably traveled more miles than you ever walked your whole life - though to be fair probably seen less than the miles and miles of dicks that went through your ass.
There isn't any fucking similarity in the way D&D (I'll grant you I don't know anything about D&D5) uses stats and the way Dark Souls uses them.
>>343633009
Yeah don't fall for this shit. To even call it an RPG is a bit disingenuous.
Mass Effect 2
Mass Effect 3
>>343633593
>Because you can totally use great weapons, halberds, and magic at SL1, right?
You can't use magic and weapons in DMOMM before having the right stats either.
More importantly, you can easily do without in DS3. So even if they do matter by your definition, they don't matter that much.
>>343629797
Bloodborne. Literally the only good ARPG combat.
Dark Messiah, M&B, Chilvary, D2X, Dark Souls 3 are alright. Everything else is Skyrim/Witcher tier garbage.
>>343634069
>mmo age: offline grind
Are all the original Thief games worth the £3?
Shadow of Mordor. It's kinda rpgish and the combat is fun.
>>343634389
>Bloodborne. Literally the only game on my ps4.
FTFY
>>343634490
Yes you moran
>>343634389
This and add Dragon's Dogma and MH to the passable pile.
>>343634516
ARPGs are all fairly lackluster. BB combat is still fun even after a year and a half. The only problem with it is a lack of build variety. Maybe if you weren't poor you could afford both a PC and a PS4.
>>343634446
Only if you aren't smart enough to get past the first zone
>>343629797
Why is everyone assuming he only wants aRPGs or is that what he implied? I cant tell.
If you dont mind turn based combat here are some good RPG combat games...
Expeditions: Conquistador
Divinity: Original Sin
Jagged Alliance 2
Underrail (You probably wont like this if you hate stiff animation.)
There is one RPG not turned based thats worth mentioning.
Exanima ( Still in beta but its worth it)
>>343634726
> BB combat is still fun even after a year and a half
well, it's the only thing that run best on a ps4 so...
>>343629797
Skyrim
>>343634389
>Chivalry
>RPG
>>343634069
>Dragon Age Inquisition
Why are trying to trick others to play that horrible game?
>>343633904
Role Playing Game
If you have ability to customise your character into a specific role among others, it becomes an RPG
Dark Messiah allows you to be a Ranger/warrior/assassin/mage with skill trees and equipment customizations
Deus Ex Human Revolution
Borderlands 2
Fallout 4
>>343634840
This is not Todd Howard
I'm Todd Howard, T-o-d-d, H-o-w-a-r-d
Director of fallout 3
And fallout 4 has the best combat.
Buy it with the season pass for the most bang for your bucks.
>>343634773
>Exanima
>worth it
Not really, it is novel but the controls just suck, they are not good enough.
>>343634876
It is objectively one of the best RPGs that have come out in the last 5 years.
>>343629797
There has never been a good videogame.
>>343635108
>It is objectively one of the only RPGs that isnt fallout 4 in the last 5 years.
>>343633982
if you get dark arisen, you get a ferrystone that never runs out
>>343629797
When it comes to swordplay, the Dark Messiah of Might and Magic is still the unparalleled masterpiece.
>>343629797
Dragon's Dogma
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
Dragon's Dogma
Dark Messiah of Kicks and Tits
>>343632975
It's less of an RPG than Diablo, and Diablo is not even a RPG.
>>343634954
>If you have ability to customise your character into a specific role among others, it becomes an RPG
Not really or any tabletop game that allows you to customize a character would be a RPG, or I'm pretty sure we all understand Shadowrun: Crossfire isn't a RPG, when Shadowrun itself is. Or, conversely, every one shot RPG scenario where you cannot make, let alone customize your character wouldn't be part of the RPG genre for some reason.
The RPG genre is at its score about the - some would argue collective - manipulation of narrative elements. If anything, I would argue the capacity to alter your character is the least important one. It's how everything else can be altered that matters in the end. The former is only important in how it relates to the latter.
>>343633843
>>343633854
>>343633854
Is it me or does the production value drop off with each episode? It's funny because each subsequent episode is printing more and more money while the said money is not proportionally invested into production of the rest of the episodes. Why does this remind me of a pusher giving you the prime shit for free once and and then cuts it a bit with baking powder or some other crap with every next batch? And people don't really notice because they're too busy rationalizing the fuck out of what they've witnessed trying to convince themselves that what they saw was nothing short of amazing.
I just realized I sorta answered my question.
>>343636525
The Hound was already wounded in several places and Brienne had a fucking valyrian steel sword. It was hardly a fair fight.
>>343637091
how does the sword being made of valyrian steel help at all?
Fuck me, it's just a sword you twat
>>343637275
It gives you +10 against canines.
>>343637275
Well, for one, it's a lot easier to use and lighter than Sandor's usually heavy as fuck swords. And also, it's a lot stronger and sharper.
Fuck, GRRM said between Arthur Dayne and Barristan Selmy would win Arthur but only if he had Dawn, so it's not like what sword is being used isn't a big factor.
>>343637275
>why does having one of the best quality swords help?
you're brain dead
>>343636525
Rested hound vs. rested Brienne wouldn't be a fair fight. Fuck, even Jamie would kick her ass in that scenario. Brienne so far only beat woefully under geared or under skilled opponents. Even Bron would murder her ass.
>>343637523
a sword is a sword, you stick the pointy end into your opponent, having a valyrian sword doesn't make you into some fucking supersaiyan just because the STEAL HAS BEEN FOLDED OVER 50 MILLION FUCKING TIMES or some bullshit
>>343637072
The quality of production appears the same to me. The drop-off is in the writing and direction. You can't throw money at writing and directing.
>>343629797
>Is there any RPG with good combat system?
No, because if there were they wouldn't need to rely on a leveling system.
>>343637725
Realistically, no the sword doesn't mean that much but GRRM gave special attributes to some swords even beyond the whole +100 to White Walker killing.
>>343629797
You're not supposed to run past them you fucking coward.
>>343632436
If you want a true RPG you should play DnD or Pathfinder buddy.
>>343637072
They just do a lot of filler to save up for the CGI, CGI is outrageously expensive
>>343637543
>Jamie
>Beating anyone competent now that he's a leftie
>>343629797
Gothic 2
>>343629797
>watch gameplay footage from MnB Bannerlord
>attack animations are still the same
>>343639885
There's no reason to even make banner lord, viking conquest already added all the features every one wanted and better graphics is only going to make it run like shit
>>343637072
Yeah its fucking weird how this show literally prints money and will for the next century, yet HBO didn't give them any real money until the third season, and even now they're still very limited
Next season has like $8m per episode though
>>343640073
>Viking Conquest
>Giving anyone anything
How are you even posting right now.
>>343640073
>viking conquest already added all the features every one wanted
are you retarded? Viking Conquest didn't add working siege equipment, a smoother engine, actual weight to your swings, a HUGE crafting system, etc etc
Viking Conquest added the best ship system out of all the mods, but they were still absolute dogshit
>>343637072
Its because they waste all their money on computer graphics.
>>343629797
For Honor is coming out next year. Has a few RPG elements with you being a knight, viking, or samurai. Combat system is interesting.
inb4 shill
>>343637543
Brianne beat a healthy loras.
>>343641613
loras is barely 15, who also wins tournaments by trickery and outright cheating, garlan, his older brother, is a far better knight, who isn't in the show, so you wouldn't know.
>>343641897
It's mentioned several times by Jaime that the knights of old (Gerold Hightower, Arthur Dayne, etc) would be disgusted with knights of the present.
>>343629797
>the animations are stiff
that's visuals not combat
Mountain Blade online with mouse-controlled parrying is the most grueling fucking online experience there is
>>343632975
You can beat Dark Souls without leveling at all. Can't name many 'real RPGs' that let you do that.
>>343629797
bannerlord
>>343637072
In the latest episode the cathedral exploding, the shot of the library and the shot of the ships were all pretty cool. Doesn't seem much better or worse.
>>343629797
Skyrim with Requiem!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBP9xah5jKM
>>343629797
Mountain Blade. Not only is it a better RPG than anything Japan could ever dream of it also has a pretty high skill ceiling in MP. High enough that bitch boys will get griefed off in minutes.
>>343632140
>deleted
>>343643225
How on earth does M&B have a high skill ceiling? Are you sure you don't just suck anon?
>>343644021
Are you joking? Have you ever played multiplayer? Even shitty shieldbros need skills to win. Otherwise it's crazy omnidirectional blocking and attacking and footing.
>>343633759HEY PAL!
>>343642619
the first baldurs gate can be beaten at level 1
>>343641413
Damn right. Ever since they had to spend money to cgi dragons, the zombies and others the quality of the show dropped terribly. Which is funny because the cgi still looks like shit no matte how hard they try to blur the picture.
>>343633871
Combat was the weakest part of witcher 3
>>343629797
>but the animations are stiff
what does that have to do with the combat system you giant pleb?
>>343637543
>even bronn
Bronn would probably be the best person to kick her shit in.
>>343632912
It's a shit game that's been in development for 20 years, and has a few new sound effects between now and three years ago when I bought it early access.
The system is deep when you get into it, but the lack of devs actually doing shit anything for the game kills it for me.
It's why I don't buy early access unless it's from a company I know will actually deliver.
>>343629797
>you dumb fucking fromdrone
I dont get the need to insult
>>343635869
Honestly the one thing I'm autistic about in an RPG is being able to create my own character. I've never played the Witcher and I wish I could, but the fact I'm playing an old man the entire time just completely kills it for me. Which is a shame, I wish I wasn't so anal about it, but it's pretty much my only requirement before I touch an RPG. Second most important is dialogue/story, third is gameplay.
>>343629797
If you are going to declare every system bad for any flaw then no there isn't.
>>343629797
Front Mission 3.
>>343648376
Because he's just shit posting and knows Souls is popular.
You can tell people like this are shit posting when they can't articulate what would make a good combat system.
Underrail had a a damn good combat system, especially considering it's not party-based
Gothic has amazing system that allows you to take down level 15 character at level 1.
But it's very awkward and clunky with multiple enemies.
>>343635067
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