>Shitty graphics
>Empty world
>Locations consistently reused
>Shit story
>Everything about the base
>The base tied to progression
>Loading into every story mission
>Kojima's name every chapter
What is good about this game?
I enjoyed the gameplay. I think this and GZ have the smoothest gameplay and controls out of any MGS title. The empty deserts and shit story are disgusting pieces of shit.
>Finally get to Africa
>Land in jungle with my leafy camo on
>Ready for some next gen MGS3 shit
>Explore jungle
>Climb some shit
>Make it over the hill
>It's another empty fucking desert
BOSS GIT DOWN
>>343624272
>>Shitty graphics
Bait threads were never so obvious
>>343624848
Rocks concrete, and grass: the game
>>343624848
The textures are mediocre with no tesselation on rocky surfaces, the foliage and polygon count are 360/PS3 level and the lighting is flat.
>>343624272
This tbqh, people can call me a pleb or whatever, but I played about 3 hours worth of it and couldn't bring myself to play anymore. Playing a last gen game is a good description of it, really nothing to make me want to keep playing.
>>343624974
I don't know if you played on a toaster or on a console but the game maxed out on PC looks great, anon. I'm not going to tell you it's the best looking ever but it doesn't look bad at all.
So yeah, bait thread, here's your (You)
>>343624272
Can anyone explain why your silencer only lasts for 1 bullet? I immediately stopped playing after I realised that, how ridiculous of a game
>>343624272
>Kill an entire outpost of enemies
>Come back 2 hrs later
>They're all respawned
What a shit game, it completely killed my immersion that killing people had 0 impact.
>>343625178
This is literally one of many shitty promo pics they sent to gaming outlets about the PC release
>>343624272
The game sucked. No wonder 50% of the used PS4 games at gamestop is MGSV
>>343624272
I enjoyed it. Calling it trash while only listing it's flaws seems pretty facetious.
>>343625254
It's for balance issues, i suppose. It makes you plan your approach and add variety to what tools you use. If you can just clear most/all of a base with only your pistol, then of course most people are going to deprive themselves of content so they can glide through the game.
![[HorribleSubs] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - Diamond is Unbreakable - 13 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_14.43_[2016.06.24_17.38.56].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jdNFoJQ.jpg "[HorribleSubs] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - Diamond is Unbreakable - 13 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_14.43_[2016.06.24_17.38.56].jpg")
>there will never be a standard linear MGS game using the Fox Engine and MGSV controls
>>343625416
I think the backlash against it is because it gets virtually no criticism from reviewers etc. I know I had high expectations partly due to that, and was pretty pissed off when I actually played it.
>>343624272
Am I supposed to disagree with you?
>>343625362
The other 50% is Bloodborne
>>343624272
>>Empty world
"I've never been to Afghan or the African flats before or seen a picture of them in my life."
One of these is in 60fps
>>343625362
>>343625650
>>343625351
You do realise that the MGS series was meant to be played stealthily, so of course killing thousand of mooks doesn't do shit.
>>343625718
If you want to cherry pick one shot and try to distract from the topic, go ahead
>I liked the graphics
>The world was relatively empty, but it was okay for the first passover planning shit like navigating guard outposts and settlements
>locations consistently being reused sucks, I agree
>the story held my attention until it went full retard like it generally does for kojamble, I did like the slow mission where I had to kill my own recruits
>base development is fine, stop being autistic
>kojima slapping his name on it isn't new at all
eat me
I enjoyed it for what it was.
>>343625710
It's a game, fill it with interesting shit to do.
Anyone have the "bon voyage base goblin" picture?
>>343625985
Hard to make a bunch of sand nigger ruins, sand, and rocks interesting. Hard to make a flat grassland interesting, even with nigger filled outposts.
niggers.
>>343625913
> No
> You just drive through them or around them, what kind of autist needed to plan a route in this game?
>Yes
>That's up to personal taste I guess, so ok
>It's fucking annoying and distracts from the core game
>It's obnoxious and annoying
>
>tfw the only sane one here
>>343626090
so don't use them as the setting for your open world game.
>>343624974
Wow fuck you the lighting is incredible
>>343626328
How about trying to post a screenshot to prove it? Preferably one that isn't a damn cutscene
>>343625574
There wasn't much criticism because the game was almost perfect. Having a sparse story doesn't mean the game is bad
>>343625254
Retard.
>>343625862
Both of those look like screenshots from the trailers, you're blind and should stick to your shitty weeb games if you think MGV's graphics look like shit
>>343626456
Just kill yourself dude, nobody cares about your opinion.
>>343626490
Motherfucker did you play the game? Chapter 1 was fine. The story had almost nothing to do with the MGS universe and was basically its own separate world but at least there was a story. Then everything went to shit in chapter 2. Also no ending. No. Fucking. Ending.
>>343626456
Its more about how it looks in motion and how it affects the gameplay retard. Little things like the sun reflecting off your barrel, shadows actually obscuring enemies, sun rays through dust clouds, the flash of light as you move from dark to light, stuff like that
>>343625420
Yeah, I expected that the military bases would have decent interior sections or something but we didn't get any of that.
>>343626701
Having a sparse story does not mean the game is bad
>no ending
Good that means I can keep playing for 450 hours
>>343626539
> stick to weeb games if you think MGV's graphics look like shit
That's just too good. Such great graphics, straight from a promo release about the PC edition too
What benefit does the open world have?
In what way does it make the game better in any way?
>>343626723
You mean basic lighting techniques that have been used since the 360, otherwise known as a decade ago?
>>343626908
Yep but the fox engine does it with style
>>343626328
>Wow fuck you the lighting is incredible
is this 2004?
>>343626861
You can plan your way around. And the areas are all really good looking with a lot of variation in the empty parts. Not to mention the quiet musicless segments provide a good counterpoint to when shit hits the fan
>>343626842
>those low-res shadows
>that complete lack of af
>that fucking fire effect that looks straight out of a ps2 game
KEK
>>343626951
Nope, what you're thinking about is PBR. It helps make the poor lighting look less mediocre but it has it's limits and is otherwise meant for a different use.
MGSV (GZ & TPP) only look good when it's dark and you can't see any of the low res textures and low poly models.
I have also never seen a game with as much aliasing as GZ. I actually can't believe how bad the jaggies are even at 1440p
>>343627078
Uh what? Im telling you dude, the way light is rendered in this engine is beautiful
>>343624272
>mgs
>a shit game
Wow, what a surprise
>>343624272
Your mom was trash last night too, yet you don't see me making threads about it.
>>343626861
I don't think of it as an "open world game". It's a stealth game with an open world. It's mostly empty. You're not supposed to go around exploring and discovering shit. It's for the player to make their own approach routes toward objectives, and to let you do stuff like conduct recon from a distance and carry out ambushes between outposts.
I like it. I think it's one of the things the game did right
>>343624848
only the lighting is good, the rest if shallow and mediocre
>>343627076
After seeing the reviews I am convinced MGSV is the greatest video game circlejerk of all time. I actually feel like I've wasted my money.
>>343624695
THIS.
>Detailed jungle
>It's only 2% of the entire map
REEEEEEEEEEE
>>343626090
During the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan? That's bullshit. Fucking call of duty had a more entertaining 1980s Afghanistan because they added more than one side to the conflict.
How they went from MGS4's combat stealth to absolutely nothing in the next main title is unfathomable. I guess the budget was used on a handful of 80s tracks to play while circlejerking to Quiet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iarMxZV9jqc
>>343628097
>gook snake makes more sounds than kiefer
thanks kojima
Why was the level design so shit?
>>343624272
>>343624695
>>343624272
They're never making DLC for this, are they.
MGS truly is dead.
>>343629004
They're developing a new MGS right now.
They're not going to release MGSV DLC when they can shit out a new game in fox engine for $60 bucks instead.
I hate how much of a grindfest the game is. Fultoning stuff to build up motherbase is such a stupid mechanic.
I'm supposed to be Big fucking Boss, the most famous badass in the Metal Gear universe. Why do I have to personally abduct every sentry, cook, and janitor for my mercenary nation? It doesn't make any sense. Soldiers around the world should be tripping over themselves to join Diamond Dogs.
Volunteers should be the main recruiting mechanic, like dozens of volunteers for every mission. Make fulton expensive and give commanders and specialists in the field really high stats so you can have the *option* of non-lethaling and extracting them. Give high skill characters visible quirks like specific equipment and insignia, eliminating the tedium of scanning everything and adding the gameplay dimension of learning to identify the different specialists of all the factions in the in the game.
Have a mechanic where after capturing an outpost you can drop a flare and a team comes in a chopper and loots everything. There should be a black market where you can purchase vehicles and whatnot, it would make sense and currency should be more important seeing as you're a mercenary and all. The ability to fulton vehicles can be retained but it should be way more expensive, it's OP as fuck that you can wantonly neutralize tanks pretty much by touching them.
>>343624272
I actually liked MGSV, it wasn't perfect but it wasn't trash like everyone says it is.
The controls and game play were improved drastically, the actually populated areas of the map(s) where designed reasonably well imho. The biggest drawbacks where that it was repetitive and the story was not up to par with the rest of the series. Still, it was enjoyable for what it was.
I'm pretty sure you all just hate it because you hyped the fuck out of it for no good reason long before it came out.
>We want to make a game that will accomodate many playstyles
>Good idea Hideo, player freedom is a good thing, how are we going to accomplish this?
>By making all of the gameplay scenarios so simplistic that you can never fail, as well as providing a magical balloon that will act as a get out of jail free card if the player does somehow manage to go wrong.
>That's brilliant Hideo, that sounds really fun.
>>343629314
and change the wacky Fulton animation. The idea of ballooning stuff away is already cartoony enough
>>343624272
>graphics
For being a port it was really good, especially the performance. I cant think of a better PC port considering that some of them literally dont work.
>empty world
Thats just bullshit, enemy bases are anywhere.
>Locations consistently reused
Not uncommon for open world games.
>shit story
Some parts where good, some parts dont even make sense so I partly agree
>Everything about the base
The base was pretty comfy, the idea of outer heaven made it comfy
>Loading into every story mission
>Kojima's name every chapter
That shouldnt be a surprise.
why couldn't they make ground zeroes ver 2.0? it all seemed like all kojimber wanted was to recreate peace walker on the current gen.
>>343629079
Source?
>>343629523
>it wasn't perfect but it wasn't trash like everyone says it is.
Only /v/tards like parroting how supposedly bad V is.
>I'm pretty sure you all just hate it because you hyped the fuck out of it for no good reason long before it came out.
I purposefully avoided all the hype around the game, except for the E3 trailers. I was disappointed with the obvious cut content and how the story suffered for it. Loved everything else.
My main other complaint was the empty overworld in free roam, but the infinite heaven mod fixes that right up.
It's not the best MGS game, but it's up there for me.
>>343625574
The silencer Is completely unnecessary, Like the chicken hat. Just don't miss.
WHOOOOOOO are you?
>>343629698
It isn't about win or fail, its about doing it how you want without wasting gmp and getting the best rank possible.
Plus, if you want stakes just do a fob
>>343624848
This is max settings with one of the best reshade presets you'll find.
>>343631138
>its about doing it how you want without
That's the problem! In order to accommodate that freedom they made the objectives so painfully simple that it doesn't matter what you do.
There's never a situation where you have to think about what you're doing because the game is designed around every possible tactic working all of the time. Surely you can see that the result of that is never going to be as satisfying as traditional gameplay?
I hate Huey.
>>343627078
MGSV when released didn't use PBR, despite all the fox engine shilling.
>>343627193
It was garbage. Interiors especially.
>>343630304
>Only /v/tards like parroting how supposedly bad V is.
You know this thread is full of people hating on MGSV right? That's why I said it isn't as bad people say it is.
>>343630304
MGS threads are almost completely dead because V was so terrible yet we have posters like this.
You fucking disgust me.
>>343631518
>MGSboys defended this
>>343631965
>MGS threads are dead because people have different opinions.
Take your salt back to the /vg/ ded thread. V wasn't the best MGS game but it's a long way from being "terrible" and "trash". V's only real flaw was getting cut content and being pressured to release.
Fucking fight me fuccboi.
>>343632315
It's literally trash. It's easy, lacking content, unfinished, has god awful writing, shit tier voice acting, uninspired characters, and even the music is forgettable.
You're objectively wrong and have the taste of an autistic shitlord.
The cut content would have done nothing for the game, it looked worse than anything we got.
>>343624272
But it was packed with goodies anon
>>343631676
its not bad, it's mediocre
>>343632446
>Throws a blanket of opinions in the widest possible sense
>"Objectively wrong"
>"autistic"
>"My opinions are facts"
Here's your (you). I don't want any (you)'s back.
>>343633107
Those are not opinions you hambeast.
Wow, I'm glad we had this discussion about you not liking something. Maybe next time you can come back and tell us about another thing you don't like. Really keeps the board alive!
>>343633259
Exactly what he said, your opinions are facts!
>>343632315
>endless Quiet porn and sfm
>basically no Paz
Lord Jesus help me to understand.
>>343633373
there's as much porn as there was paz in TPP :^)
>>343624272
>Empty world
This pissed me off more than anything else. The core gameplay mechanics were good, yeah, but overall gameplay is a combination of the mechanics and the world you use them in, and the latter fucking sucked. It was a barren and completely boring place to be, that one level in Ground Zeroes was better than anything in MGSV. The fun mechanics was completely wasted in this game.
Mother Base being so lifeless was disappointing too.
>>343633259
>>343625650
But that's because Bloodborne is too hard for meme players whereas MGSV is just shit.
>>343626090
Kojima was just lazy
>>343627408
This
>>343626090
Other games manage to do more with the setting than MGSV did. Blame the devs, not the rest of the fucking world around the devs.
>>343633646
deep
I liked it
Kazuhira "If you fulton a nigger I'll pull the trigger" Miller
>>343632315
The only good thing about V was introducing us to the Joost
Prove me wrong
>>343634306
Kazuhira "If he's not white he'll die tonight" Miller
>>343624272
REMINDER: Game was not finished.
Kojima finished Act 1 but Act 2 was still in the process of being wrapped up when Konami told him to release the game. That's why we have repeat missions on very hard. Hell there was even suppose to be an Act 3.
>>343635643
Shut the fuck up with this "Kojima didn't have enough time" meme.
MGS2, MGS3, and even MGS4 took less than 5 years to develop. MGS5 took more than 7 yeas with an 80 million budget. Would Act 3 have made MGS5's shortcomings better?
Lack of open world variety, emptiness of it all, MASSIVE grindfest, and the disconnect from an overarching storyline? You are a dumb Kojima defender if you believe adding more of the same shit people hated after 30 hours would have improved MGS5.
The game was shit but I had fun with it.
>>343624272
it´s okay game while there´s still story left and the episode bullshit makes it feel like you´re directing a TV series
but when you finish the storyline there´s absolutely nothing left to carry the game on since it sold the game heavily based on story on the trailers.. which was disappointing
>>343636921
what the fuck am I even reading? Some autist has a complaint about how incomplete the MGSTPP is? It is to grindy? It disconnects from the story? No fucking way - what is happening?
Fist of all you shut the fuck up you piece of shit.
You don't have enough information what happened behind the scenes. There could be plenty of reasons why he was restricted by Konami or he decides himself not to pull in to much effort since nobody at Konami really gave a fuck about the outcome anyways and forced the release.
MGS2-4 was on developed for ps2/3 completely different level and budget.
And to be honest nobody gives a fuck what you think the game lacked or not. You got a unfinished version of MGS. Deal with it faggot and back off to minecraft.
