What are some good roguelikes worth looking into? Roguelites are welcome too.
>tome
>good
>fun
pick one
>>343624158
>Roguelikes
>Good
>Fun
To some, yes.
>>343624158
I pick all three because the game is great.
>>343623820
One Way Heroics+.
And yes the "+" is important.
>>343624216
i love a lot of roguelikes but tome is a very shoddy game and a poor roguelike
TOME is fucking trash
Brogue
DCSS
Infra Arcana
are all pretty good
>>343624393
>DCSS
Something with a dumb name like that can't be good.
Dungeons of Dredmor is seriously entertaining andcomfyif you can simmer yourself down and not scream REDDIT at the humour. Not perfectly balanced, but loadsa replay value. Gud & knowhow comes with experience.
Crypt of the Necrodancer's high up there too, but you have to not be bad at video games. Less management and strategy and more reactive.
Both have killer soundtracks.
Elona+
>>343624813
Any more open world roguelikes where you can travel throughout the world and visit towns?
Enter the Gungeon has been an addiction of mine for the past few weeks.
http://www.thegreatestgameyouwilleverplay.com/
are there any good rougelikeswith online?
>>343624158
Say that to my Temporal Warden and see what happensProbably nothing, but you never know with spacetime tuning
>>343628571
Depends what you mean by "online" but the answer is almost certainly no.
>>343624450
Underage get out.
>>343628571
Just Risk of Rain.
Daily reminder that Sil is the best roguelike.
>>343623820
UnReal World. It's equal part a survival game and roguelike. Steam version has updated visuals I think, but you can get it for free from the site.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as a roguelike, is in fact, a roguelite, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, a roguelikelike.
>>343628993
>>343629096
damn
you would think someone would have made an online rougelike by now
>>343629175
ToME is roguelike
>>343629190
how can you make an online version of something that doesn't exist
>>343623820
>not generating your own world in dwarf fortress and playing adventure mode in it
it's even better if you visit your own fortresses
Cataclysm:DDA, if vehicle customisation and comfyness is your thing
>>343629241
Are you high
>>343629235
Well, barely.
It was more of a blanket statement for all the assholes coming here and calling roguelikelikes roguelikes.
>>343629315
Well I know of roguelikes, i've never heard of this rougelike thing though.
I want to like ToME but I can't.
>>343624747
Dredmor is definitely a great entry level roguelike that is, in fact, proper roguelike. Problem with the entire genre is that new titles essentially have to go up against games that have 15+ years of development put into them, for free.
>>343629359
How is it barely roguelike
Are you fucking high
>>343629175
>>343629359
>roguelikelike
>>343625035
ADOM, PosChengBand
Most games of the Moria family really.
Also Cataclysm is open world.
>>343629375
I dont understand
You're saying it cant exist because it doesnt exist? What?
>>343629449
>adventure mode
>difficulty slider
Yeah, it's barely like Rogue.
>>343629315
guessing english isn't your first language then
>>343628873
>tfw you rig paradox so bad your future self comes to murder you
>>343628571
nethack has very popular online telnet servers.
The "online" aspects consists of a shared pool of "bones" files (if any player dies, the current level is saved and another player can find their corpse, allowing somebody to find both all their equipment... and potentially the powerful monster that killed them) and additionally has a feature where you can watch people playing their games or have your game watched.
>>343629190
PWMangband.
>>343623820
Roguelites
>Crypt of the Necrodancer
Easy to pick up, difficult to master. Try this if you like rhythm games. The easy level will be too hard for neo /v/ and the hardest difficulty level will make a completion throw their computer out the window.
>The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth/Afterbirth
Fun dungeoncrawling with poo poo and pee pee themes. It's very easy to beat the game as everyone except perhaps the secret Afterbirth character the Keeper. The game doesn't stop you from getting so LOL OVERPOWERED that you can instantly kill most of the hardest bosses in the game.
>Spelunky
Really great platformer/dungeon crawl. It has sort of an Indiana Jones theme.
>FTL
You already own this anon, right? You better fucking already own this.
>Enter the Gungeon
Do you like danmaku and dungeon crawling? This is probably your thing.
>Steredenn
Found this during the steam sale. You fight bosses and upgrade your ship. Randomization adds great replay value and twist on the heavy memorization involved in most shmups. Fun for fands of hori shmups.
>>343629598
Are you seriously going to dismiss the rest of the features because it has optional difficulty sliders?
>>343629620
Firstly it is, and second dont dodge the question
What stupid assumption are you trying to make here because its unclear
>>343629635
Same goes for DCSS though swap player corpses for player ghosts. One neat functionality is DCSS has an IRC server that notifies of ingame activity (player has died, player has found an Orb, etc.) so you can tell when someone has died and they can tell when someone has killed their ghost.
Aw yeah
>>343629660
FTL isn't a roguelike in any way, shape, or form.
It's more of a roulette table simulator.
>>343629551
rogue and rouge are different words and not in any way alternate spellings of the same word, one is relevant to the genre of game being discussed, the other is a colour and usually used in relation to makeup.
>>343629660
>Roguelites
*Roguelikelikes
>>343629690
Having adventure mode, tiles, cooldown based combat, more than a single dungeon, classes, races and a difficulty slider make it barely like the game Rogue.
Therefore, barely a roguelike.
>>343624249
>One Way Heroics
Came here to post this.
>And yes the "+" is important.
Why?
>>343629760
better go back to english class then buddy.
>>343629852
Oh you were being a moron
Got it
>>343629497
>tfw I just make PosChengBand characters and then have them die in the first dungeon because that game is hard.
Elona+ is my 10/10 though. The game is so crazy.
>>343629927
That's not a sentence and you forgot to capitalize, nice try though.
>>343629780
ghosts are gay as fuck in Stone Soup. They're just crappy weak mobs that give disproportionately massive XP.
It's a cool feature in Nethack but they took away everything interesting about it by removing both the loot and the cause of death.
>>343629161
>UnReal World
Underrated as FUCK game. Is it because there's no typical magic? I like the whole tribal, hunter-gatherer and Iron Age thing it has going on. Silly LARP pictures only help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kX6KTMz8g0
>>343629897
I guess every roguelike is barely a roguelike since they all modify the formula.
Quit being retarded.
>>343629175
>roguelikelike
>>343629359
>roguelikelikes
>>343629897
>Roguelikelikes
Fuck off, hipstershit.
>>343630026
at least I actually know how to spell rogue friendo ;)
>>343630059
>They're just crappy weak mobs
Not when you play a venomancer, or a necro at low level that's for sure.
>>343629265
One of these days I'll get into Dwarf Fortress. I'm justifying it to myself by saying I'm waiting until it's at 1.0.
>>343630059
Depends on the ghost. Mage ghosts are a giant pain in the ass.
Nobody said DoomRL? You fucking faggots.
I wish totalbiscuit and his roguelite troupe would fuck off already
>>343629926
>Why?
Because aside from various quality of life interface/control adjustments, + adds many times more the content than the vanilla game. Even disregarding the very welcome balance changes.
Not only does this content make the game much more interesting as is, but it also does wonders in terms of subverting the biggest flaw of the vanilla game. Making each new adventure much more unique and with a considerably greater degree of possible variation. Instead of the adventures starting to blend together.
The difference is huge. I'd almost go as far as to claim that the non+ version of the game is but a taste of the real game. With the real experience being OWH+.
I am really glad I didn't burn myself out on vanilla OWH before transitioning to OWH+.
>>343630274
Well it's barely a roguelike so that's a good thing.
I've never realized people who played roguelikes were so hostile.
Pleb here.
If a game lets you get stronger per run like rogue legacy is it still a Roguelike?
I hate myself for liking those type of games more than "real" ones.
>>343629265
>>343630208
What happened to Suika Fortress?
>>343630352
>it's barely a roguelike
u wot
>>343630384
No that's a plataformer.Same as risk of rain
>>343630274
still waiting on that faggot's Jupiter Hell game but I assume we'll all be dead before it's released
>>343630384
According to the autist surely no
>>343630305
Did he make a video about roguelikes recently?
>>343630384
There are plenty of roguelikes with meta progression, yes, like ToME orDungeonmans
>>343630429
See
>>343629897
It applies mostly to DoomRL as well.
>>343630512
No, but he is literally this guy >>343629175 whenever he plays something that looks like a dungeon-crawler
>>343625035
Dwarf Fortress
>>343629842
>being this autistic
>>343630208
Have fun waiting 15 years at least for that
>>343630661
Unless a game is literally a fork of Rogue it's not a roguelike :√)FTL is pretty borderline though
>>343630437
God dammit. I forgot that was a thing still. Almost reminds of Card Wars Sagas "release" date.
>>343629660
>dungeon crawler
>dungeon crawler twin stick shooter
>plataformer
>top down space ship simulator
>dungeon crawler twin stick shooter
>shmup
>>343630384
Those kind of games are more commonly referred to as roguelikelikes and you should feel bad for enjoying them.
Used to be /v/ had standards and abhorred casual games but it seems that times have changed, maybe true vidya connoisseurs like myself have no place here anymore.
>>343630661
>>343630762
Are slot machines roguelikes? They have random content, just like FTL. And they take about as much skill.
>>343629497
>PosChengBand
What is this? Will I enjoy it if I played Nethack and a very tiny bit of ADOM?
>>343630320
I've been meaning to try this game for a while, but is is really that good? I mean I don't like the idea that you are forced to move in one direction and it seems like the game doesn't have much replay value. How do you even visit shops if you're supposed to move in only one direction.
Crypt of the necrodancer
>>343630963
>>343630636
Don't you just manage your fortress in that game?
>>343631007
>>343624747
>>343629660
Heard it's SJW shit, so I'm not touching that.
>>343631148
There's an adventure mode too ya dolt
>>343631148
there's an adventure mode with absurdly detailed combat.
For example, if you get into grappling, you can grapple a monsters tongue with your toes while you jab out his eyes with your fingers and get a tight grip on his right knee with your armpit. Then bite him in the neck and shake vigorously.
Things like torn muscles, blood loss, blood production, fractured bones, internal organ injures, etc all all tracked and recorded and factored in to everything.
>>343631148
Yes, that part of the game is a roguelikelikelike but adventure mode is a (barely) roguelike.
>>343631274
>SJW shit
What? Don't tell me they did something stupid. I want to like the game.
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/sO79GaY.png "latest[1].png")
>>343631359
How do you tell if a Like Like has gone rogue?
>>343623820
honestly, I'm surprised by the revival roguelikes have been three in last few years. what happened? it was always a niche genre most people couldn't because it was unforgiving and only gave you one life.
>>343630987
You move faster then the shadow travels for starters. So as long as every few turns you're moving forward, you'll rarely if ever have to worry about the shadow gobbling you up.
Unless you get caught in a building with a ton of paths, or end up stuck between an exit and a really hard to kill foe, running into situations like this is rare, but the action of being pushed to keep advancing does make the game more...dynamic? It's that kind of experience that keeps you going organically, and I love it for that.
>>343630562
I see.
Next question, how long have you known you're retarded?
>>343631468
>>343630762
>Unless a game is literally a fork of Rogue it's not a roguelike :√)
Good thing they labeled their post as roguelites then you spacklord
>>343631525
They offered casual modes with lives or other conveniences like persistent systems that make life easier in the long run with bonuses for all characters. People like that progression shit when it can't be totally undone on death.
Legerdemain
http://www.roguebasin.com/index.php?title=Legerdemain
>>343631837
See
>>343629175
The correct term is "roguelikelike".
>>343631406
There are a VERY select few of the unlockable characters in the game that are actually SWJ bullshit genders or something, but the fact that it's never at all mentioned in game and they still have manly characters like Eli lets me barely ignore it.
>>343630562
>DoomRL
Fuck, forgot about that game
Gonna reinstall it
I fucking loved those fun shotgun builds
>>343631941
I advise against that because it's not a proper roguelike.
URR when?
>ITT autism
>>343632083
technically it's autismlike
>>343632139
*autismlite
>>343630987
That's the thing though. One Way Heroics has a lot of replay value. But that's also where the weight of + kicks in. Most of the replay value of OWH comes from OWH+.
And the One Way mechanic is a really neat little thing both in terms of thematics as well as gameplay.
It's not like you can only move in one single direction. You have a full 8-way movement. It's just that the left side of the screen creeps up on you. For visiting shops instance like you mentioned, you'd need to run towards the shop in advance, and the earlier you started running towards it / the faster you ran towards it, the more time you get to spend at the shop/town before it's consumed by darkness and you've got to bail. It's honestly pretty interesting.
Monsters and loot on the roads to the towns can stall you so that it gets tough to get to the towns in advance. And you're in a constant struggle of whether or not you should or shouldn't grab all the loot, or whether or not you should or shouldn't fight all the enemies or avoid/run from them. In favor of giving you more space between you and the ever crawling darkness.
Sometimes be it in dungeons or towns, you can even find yourself in peculiar situations where your greed in wanting loot / extra time with NPCs&shops, that you become locked between the creeping darkness and the walls after the actual exists have already been consumed. Forcing you to spend energy and or resources to blast through the walls instead and make your own exit. But the funny thing is that it sometimes really is worth it. Yet it's not for free. Energy is needed in battle or if you want to snag extra treasure along the roads. And resources are naturally always needed in a pinch.
You're a true hero in One Way Heroics. Constantly venturing onwards towards the demon lord, to prevent the world from being consumed all while you actually witness the world being consumed before your very eyes. With it actually being a very central game mechanic of the game itself.
>>343623820
Moreor lessimportantly, for someone who's never really tried a roguelike or roguelite (beyond TOME, which I came to a frustrating end with), what's something good to start with?
>>343632163
*autismlikelike
>>343631940
dropped that's already too much
>>343632182
Dungeons of Dredmor
>>343632182
>roguelite
*roguelikelike
Brogue is a good starting roguelike.
Nethack as well.
>>343632182
I'd recommend Brogue or DCSS. If you want open world try the *bands, or even elona+.
>>343632182
Nethack
the old masterpiece
>>343631927
Barely no one uses that term
>>343632182
Get Elona+. It's a good entry for people unfamiliar with roguelikes plus it's a fun game.
>>343631274
OH MY GOD ONE OF THE CHARACTERS IS A HERMAPHRODITE
NOW I CAN'T PLAY IT
FUCKING SJWS RUINING MY GAMES
>>343624450
>Something with a dumb name like that can't be good.
I know you're rusing, but it's called Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup, stone soup being a reference to a folklore tale about collaboration - the game is communally developed.
>>343632472
To add, it's a fork of Linley's Dungeon Crawl.
Holy shit there's a new one way heroics coming out
>>343632456
Is Elona actually a roguelike?
It's such a massive game with so much shit to do that it doesn't really seem to fit a genre
>>343632181
You've sold me on this, anon. Thank you for the excellent write-up!
>>343632585
>Holy shit there's a new one way heroics coming out
It's actually more of a mystery dungeon game
>>343632646
If you're playing Inferno then it's barely a roguelike but without permadeath it's a clear-cut roguelikelike.
>>343632646
>Elona is a freeware roguelike RPG
That's what it says on the author's website.
>>343632646
You can start it in inferno mode and then it fulfills the requirements. Sure, it's open world, but you can skip or partake in all of side events as much as you like. I'd say it is
>>343632283
>>343632289
>>343632362
>>343632364
>>343632456
Much appreciated, anons
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN IT HAPPENED?
>>343632472
are they still "removing bloat"?
Last time I checked they added a cool Storm god but removed that Genie race and the Lava orc
>>343629830
I have such fond memories of Azure Dreams. I need to go back to play it.
One of the first games to introduce me to the wonders of 2D girls, too.
>>343632825
Oh shit, is he gonna resume development?
>>343632825
Elona deserves to be on all the platforms, it's the best game I've ever played
>>343632904
E+ is definitely up there for me. I'll play it religiously for months, take a small break then get back into it. Something about crafting panties to use as weapons really adds to the charm of the game.
>>343633092
>Onii-chan edition
I've never heard of this version.
>>343633092
>those potentials
>>343623820
Go try Cataclysm DDA, it's like playable sugar if you're fine with zombies.
Other than Ziggurat, what are some good fps rougelike/lite/likelike/likelikelikes?
>>343633092
Elona+ is fucking BRUTAL on Inferno.
I made the mistake of walking to Vernis and glancing away from the screen for a second. Starved to death. As a fucking chef. 24h gone.
>>343633262
It's custom for Elona+ 1.58, adds the cutscenes that were removed from Elona+ and some other things.
>>343633384
Normally they're superb. Forgive me
>>343632469
oh shit which one?
insta-dropped
>>343633460
>>343629190
I'm making one. Idea is you play your own single-player game, but NPC adventurers are server-wide, and there's some manner of "auction house" where you can sell off your mage gear that you'll never use and buy memey warrior gear you can use.
Sound good? Or sound shit? lmk desu senpai
>>343633678
I'll get them back up and show you. All it takes is a pet with good cooking ability to make you breakfast for half a month or so, combined with potions of potential and picnic baskets.
>>343633652
bolt
>Cataclysm DDA
>Prospector
>Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup
>Cogmind
IVAN (I prefer the CLIVAN mod)
>>343633678
This is my main pet.
>>343623820
If you're a casual like myself I've sunk a ton of time into:
>Binding of Isaac (Rebirth/Afterbirth/WoTL)
>Crypt of the NecroDancer
>Rogue Legacy
>Enter the Gungeon
>Don't Starve (Survival Game but still fun)
Less time invested but still fun:
>Spelunky
>Risk of Rain
>>343631274
>Spend all day masturbating to futa porn
>Supposed futa in game that you will have no idea who it is unless you go out of your way outside of the game to look it up
>Triggered
>FUKKEN DROPPED
>MAAAAH WHERE ARE MY GOD DAMN TENDIES!??!?!
Neo /v/ ladies and gentlemen
>>343632832
>are they still "removing bloat"?
>Last time I checked they added a cool Storm god but removed that Genie race and the Lava orc
They have removed many things, but they did so for good reasons, and have made many additions. Lava Orcs were never in a stable version of the game, and Djinn were ludicrously unbalanced.
The next version adds Uskayaw, a god whose worship is similar to being a Lava Orc - as you fight risky battles against multiple enemies your piety swiftly rises granting you powerful abilities, climaxing with being able to insta-kill ANY monster.
However, outside of combat your piety will almost instantly drop to zero and must be built up again with more intense combat.
>>343633998
fuck off anita
>>343633802
>bolt
oh lawdy why? kill me now
>>343633998
Take your agenda pushing out of my video games.
>>343631274
>gays/lesbians/blacks/transgender/intersex people all exist in significant numbers
>putting them in a game is somehow "sjw"
dude these are all types of people from our world, there's nothing wrong with a game including them
The only way this becomes a political talking point is when some dipshit opposes it
>>343629842
>>343630951
>What shitters really believe
FTL is only "BAD RNG WAAAAH" to people that are awful at games. Meanwhile skilled players do no pause hard mode streaks.
>>343633460
Is there an up-to-date pastebin or something for downloading Elona+ customs, translations, mods etc?
I want to give the game a shot
>>343633956
That's pretty solid.
I hope you've married her.
>>343633998
Does she show her feminine dick?
>>343632469
Lol you can play as a Snail in Elona tho.
>>343634175
They are as bad as the tumblrina's they oppose. Turbocucked /pol/ neo /v/ autists
>>343633998
The real neo-/v/ is the one that doesn't care about the rape of the roguelike-name being added to any game not even remotely adhering to the Berlin interpretation.
>>343634194
http://pastebin.com/Zcavai8x
http://pastebin.com/vZ8Hfw6C
Go wild. Although I'd recommend sticking with the original music and downloading mp3 pack from the author's website.
Heavy Bullets is pretty cool, it's an FPS rouguelite.
>>343634194
Definitely, anon.
http://pastebin.com/tU9qkAqt
http://pastebin.com/Zcavai8x
And there is also the wiki:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Elona_Wiki
You can also join the thread over on /jp/
>>15480769 that's dedicated to the game, and the developer for Elona Custom even comes into the thread every now and then to talk about the release, take questions and generally show she's alive. It's neat and super comfy.
>>343634239
Yeah.I married her when she was 15. The game came up in conversation with my friends and her age came out. They've not let me live it down since.
>>343634194
shit just remembered /vg/ exists
>>343634380
>>343634412
Thanks boys
>>343634253
I didn't even know it was supposed to be a girl and only heard about it long after from reading elsewhere. There is 0 indication of it being a thing in the game itself.
ToME is one of the most fucking tedious and boring games there is. It uses the Diablo style loot system where its just a bunch of goddamn incremental number increases and percentage bonuses where nothing really feels like its a big improvement over what you had, but it gets a free pass because haha! its a roguelike! you cant hate it! There's tons of fucking better ones though. Even modern Dungeon Crawl is better than this garbage. Fuck off retard.
>>343629175
Nope. Genres evolve. Genre definitions based on the Big Four are obsolete.
FTL is a roguelike.
Rogue Legacy is a roguelike.
If it has permadeath and a randomly generated world it's a roguelike. Fucking deal with it.
>>343634561
>real life is a roguelike.
>..woah...
Sorry anon, those two games aren't roguelikes.
>>343634353
That's probably why they don't call them roguelikes. They call them roguelites. As in "lite" the watered down diet version of something.
>>343634505
I've never seen someone so offended before. Video games really are serious business.
>>343634561
You're a moron, fuck off.
>>343634561
They're roguelikelikes.
Why does it anger you that lesser games like those are rightfully denigrated?
>>343634671
*roguelikelikes
>>343634641
Last time I checked, Earth is a set map and life isn't a game.
>>343634709
Superfluous meaningless terms anger me, especially when they are as retarded as yours. We don't repeat syllables in English.
Define that exact separation between your definitions please.
>>343634715
I'd argue you are the only real person on this planet and everyone else is an NPC. When you die you'll respawn on a new earth that will be randomly generated again.
>>343634842
Don't get all religious on me senpai I just want to talk about video games.
>>343634709
*roguelikeseriously,whogivesafuck
>>343634908
Not trying to get religious. But unless there is a second life after this one, you can't say for sure the Earth isn't randomly generated. Regardless, FTL and Rogue Legacy aren't roguelikes.
Are there any "overhaul" like mods for Tome that makes the game much much longer? I love games like these but I hate the fact that the playthroughs are so short.
>>343635027
Mostly people with autism. There are /vg/ threads for roguelikes /rlg/ and roguelites /lite/ no one calls them roguelikelikes.
>>343635040
Why the fuck not? Because they're realtime? Because they're not on a grid? Because they have progression between games?
>>343634679
It is offensive when someone likes absolute garbage and posts about it. It's not even subjective, it's a terrible game.
>>343634842
>Earth is randomly generated
>No funky shit like massive chasms carving through mountains
>Spawn in the most boring location
>>343635157
And the only reason for that split is autist purists who refuse to let anything in their genre but single-character tilebased turnbased dungeon crawlers with permadeath and a victory condition.
Oh wait, they allow DDA. They can't even follow their own rules.
End result: both threads are dead.
>>343635158
Yes to all 3.
>>343635295
But anon, that's retarded.
>>343635392
http://www.roguebasin.com/index.php?title=Berlin_Interpretation
>>343635392
Why? Because the roguelike genre has set requirements for a game to be considered such and those games don't follow the requirements? Makes sense to me.
>>343635292
While I do think that no tileset dungeon crawlers are significantly different than a dungeon crawler like Isaac, the fact that both threads are mostly dead is reason enough to combine them. Good luck convincing them of that though. Most vg threads are graveyards filled with memes and waifuposting tbqh.
>>343634505
>Even modern Dungeon Crawl
I agree RE: TOME, but there is nothing wrong with "modern Dungeon Crawl", see
>>343634027
>>343635510
Stick it up your ass. The genre has moved since 2008.
>>343635553
There is room for the FTL family of games without inventing a new autistic word for them. Quake 3 and CoD:MW are both FPS games.
>>343635583
It's because of these fucking Berlin memers that can't get the cocks out of angband variants long enough to realise other games exist.
>Paladin NPC dies in the battle against the Sorcerers
>Is alive when you get back to town
>>343635804
But one is an arena shooter and the other isn't.
This genre has the unfortunate bad luck of having the worst name you can think of. Whoever came up with it was fucking retarded.
>ctrl+f
>no ultima ratio regnum
come on
Also the developer is a mad, mad man. He literally wants to create a full randomly generated planet, with cities, history, cultures, religions, etc.
Also >>343625035
>>343636000
How?
Roguelikes, as in, games like Rogue are in my opinion a good description of the genre that also pays homage to the game that started it.
>>343635112
please reply
>>343635959
But they're both FPS games. You can make up some retarded subcategory for FTL if you like, but then you also need a different one for Rogue Legacy and then a third one for Binding of Isaac/Gungeon type games.
Or you can contain the autism at let them all under the umbrella of roguelike games.
>>343636415
There are DLCs on steam, but I know nothing about them.
>>343635112
>>343636415
Like, are there mods that just add arbitrary levels you have to progress through before you are able to continue quests, things like that. Things that make the game longer and have you playing your character longer.
Hows the MPA fork of PCB? I've played with it for like 5 minutes but I didn't really notice anything different about it
>>343636473
I wish there was a subcategory for FTL. It's my GOTYAY and there is pretty much nothing like it and I don't think the devs are making a sequel.
>>343636515
Yeah there's a DLC but that's its own separate game
>>343624306
I like this meme. Next you'll recommend a 20 year old roguelike literally everyone has played already. Tome is a perfectly good roguelike and it's more difficult than the large majority of them as well.
>>343636594
Have you played Duskers?
Wonder about nethack, what do you folks think about the various branches?
>>343636587
Trades one less inventory slot for Stone of lore auto-id at 25.
Always small levels works for every dungeon and Labyrinth works like every other dungeon.
Duelists auto-tag opponents.
There are probably other small changes too but those are what I can recall off-hand.
>>343636618
Are they worth buying?
>>343636667
No, what is it?
>>343636696
DynaHack is good.
>>343635112
Play on a higher difficulty it'll make it longer
>>343636696
Dynahack for a really good *hack.
Nethack 4 if you want the full vanilla experience but not the horrid UI.
>>343624249
>>343629926
my niggas
OWH+ is the only game I play on the computer lately
>>343636836
can you say what makes it good without to many spoilers?
>>343636804
>No, what is it?
Roguelite where you control drones through command lines to explore derelict ships, I was on the verge of buying it but the sale isn't super good since it just came out.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/254320/
Caves of Qud is wonderful, great setting, great character creation and very very hard. Plus the tileset is great.
>>343637038
Seems like it could be interesting but 16.99/19.99 is much more than I'm usually willing to pay for a game these days.
>>343631758
Yes
>>343637208
>someone actually thinks this
>>343623820
Not a huge fan of ToME
I liked it more when it was called Tales of Middle Earth. It was buggy and unbalanced as shit but at least it was fun.
Mostly I play Angband and shit like that. Been doing it since I was a kid, never won once though.
>>343637004
Read this:
https://tung.github.io/DynaHack/about/
In a nutshell, less bullshit, a better difficulty curve while managing to stay fair to the player, less tedium and more content.
>>343637208
>science fantasy
I've been playing this lately. It's sort of like FTL. What other games are like this or FTL? Something with permadeath, random encounters, and resources and equipment that need to be managed
>>343637343
>if its not dcss it's shit!
Kek
>>343637343
>>343637498
I'm about to pirate it what's wrong with it
>>343637498
Yes because high fantasy is such an exciting and unique setting that isn't used in literally every roguelike ever
>>343637527
I keep hearing very mixed things about Convoy. What do you think of it?
>>343637709
>>343637624
Mixing science fiction with fantasy setting is fucking dumb yet every rpg does this for some reason. Ultima, Wizardry, Might & Magic and you have retarded shit like dwarves running with laser guns. Enough with this already.
>>343637930
So you want literally every game to be a carbon copy and just have dwarves using axes and flintlock guns? Epic my friend.
>>343638036
lets be fair here, science fantasy is not exactly an original genre most of the time
Not roguelike, but just completed a Risk of Rain run for the first time, pretty damn good, had unbelievable amounts of fun.
Also got Teleglitch lying around, how does it compare?Any other action games with roguelike elements you would recommend?
>>343638120
Well it is also set in the future with mutants and mind powers so it is different from random laser weapons being used in an old time setting.
>>343635813
>Stephanie
What a cute, white girl name.
>>343638195
>roguelite
*roguelikelike
>>343623820
Is there a roguelike with a GOOD story apart of LambdaRogue The Book of Stars (version 1.7 NEVER EVER)
Also a roguelike which is COMPLETELY FINISHED. The only ones I've found are the mystery dungeon games and >>343629830
which I loved, and my severe autism doesn't allow me to play a game that isn't complete.
>>343638292
>autism
>>343638292
Both terms are really stupid.
>>343637930
Final Fantasy's been doing it for decades too. I don't see why it has to be one or the other; it's common to assume that magic doesn't exist in a world with technology, but I've never seen a fantasy setting where people were like "science doesn't exist" or some shit.
>>343638719
Isn't it also a survival game and not a roguelike or roguelite in any way?
>>343638513
>>343638590
You're really stupid-face.
>>343633460
shit nigga
i can only keep about 2-3 stats up to superb
is it really just eating or cooking?
i only have a ranch for putits and horses for charisma and constitution
i do have monster balls with chaos imps and crabs for my other stats
right now ive been grinding for evo hearts and leveling my riding skill before i can beat the main south tyris content
i really just need magic hearts
>>343638402
the nature of roguelikes tends to be one of constant development given the relative ease of adding additional content and the importance of exploration and discovery
take Nethack, it has been in development since 1987 and the latest patch came out december 2015
What are some of /v/'s definitions for "roguelike,"
please be specific
>fanbase so autistic that they had to have a gathering in Berlin where they listed which games are roguelikes and which aren't
>>343638946
Turn based
Permadeath
That's it
>>343638946
>tile/grid based
>turn based
>procedurally generated
>permadeath
>>343638914
>Nethack
For the longest time I assumed this was a sci-fi game, like system shock but it looks like dwarf fortress, or something.
>>343638786
Oh uh. My bad, I actually read the picture first and thought it was just a "hidden gems" thread.
I like IVAN.
