Mcree Buffed
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> More than double the reload speed
>Can now do double the damage in the same amount of time.
Just in case you were wondering, this guy has been buffed not nerfed. He's now even more broken than before.
when did they buff him? My game hasnt updated since the beginning of the week
It's not reload speed you illiterate retard. They made it so the time between the end of fan and the moment he starts reloading is faster.
Never make a thread again.
>>343615774
Fuck you, you said it for me
>>343615716
They said he was broken and needed to be nerfed. So they made his reload approx 120% faster than before.
His reload time used to be. 75 secs now it's .3
You're actually retarded OP
>>343615987
>His reload time used to be. 75 secs now it's .3
No, the animation delay on the reload was reduced. Read you fucking chode.
>>343615987
>reload
You keep using that word. I don't believe it means what you think it means.
>>343615774
Same ducking difference faggot. It's a net increase in attack ability in the same amount of time.
>>343615653
Mcree is easily the worst character since the nerf. He's so boring desu
>>343615987
are you joking? his reload time is over 1 second
>>343616221
you said it's double damage
it's not double damage
?????
>Fan the hammer combo is broken
>Let's let him reload instantaneously after doing it instead of a slight delay.
>>343616221
>70->45 damage
>a buff
hmm
>>343616221
His reload animation is literally identical to what it was last patch, it has not been changed in the slightest.
It's not the same at all. What was changed was the end of fan was made faster, his recovery from fan (and only Fan) is slightly faster.
If you truly believe that McCree can do double the damage he used to be able to, let alone even equal what he used to be able to, you haven't played him this patch or you're a delusional autist.
I'll go with the latter because you seem to have primary school levels of reading comprehension.
>>343616242
You sound sensible, I'll just consider you the new OP because the acting one is irredeemably stupid.
McCree could probably use less Falloff on his shots, considering his lack of mobility, survivability or maintenance he is really lackluster when compared to Soldier or Reaper.
It's obvious none of you know how to play him. He is more powerful than before.
>>343616462
>Nothing but nerfs, including almost halving fan damage
>quarter of a second taken off the end of his fan animation
>Better than before
This should be good. please explain.
Good thread desu
>>343616462
Is that why competitive teams don't run two of them anymore? Because he's just so good now?
>OP gets told
>doubles down to protect his honor on an anonymous board
>all over a shit game
>>343616642
A lot of comps are forcing one hero limits now.
But you are not wrong in implying he's worse now. Soldier has essentially taken his place.
>>343616358
>all while reducing the damage by nearly 40%
>>343616570
>PC Gamer
>McCree's alt-fire damage has been decreased from 70 to 45. Interestingly, his time before reloading has been decreased as well, from .75 seconds to .3 seconds, so unless I'm misunderstanding how this works, he'll doing less damage per attack but can pull off more attacks in the same window of time than he used to
>>343616736
It's not just Soldier. Reaper, Pharah and Roadhog became more popular as well.
>>343616736
since the competitive mode came out in the game most tournaments allow multiples of one hero
>>343615987
>reload animation = reload time
High bait
what does pepe say when he gets mad at overwatch?mccREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>343615653
>> More than double the reload speed
>>Can now do double the damage in the same amount of time.
>double reload
>double damage
there was an attempt
>>343616882
>so unless I'm misunderstanding how this works
This is the case.
From the moment fan stops shooting to the moment McCree finishes reloading was about 2 or so seconds. Removing .45 seconds from that does not even come close to equalizing the damage nerf.
You're not even taking into fucking account than the vast majority of time a McCree is going to double Fan he is going to roll reload anyways.
Are people like you even capable of critical thinking or do you just start complaining the moment you see the hint of a red light?
>>343616882
do you honestly think a .45 second increase to recovery speed is worth the 40% damage reduction?
you can reload about 20% faster, how is that worth it?
I want to FUCK McCree
>>343617095
>have a combo that can kill virtually any character in the game instantaneously
>time to keep attacking after performing said combo reduced to virtually nil.
He now has no attack opening at all when he had a small one before. If he see's you he can kill you.
>McCree went down as the worst char in comp
Guys it's working as intended! No buffs needed! Cry more McCree fags!
>>343617095
There was a small trade off of being open to attack after performing the combo. Now there is none.
How is this so hard for you retards to understand?
>>343617294
That's because people believed the hype about him being nerfed.
Once the word gets out that it's not the case he will move back up.
>>343617494
McCree can't combo anyone but 150 health characters anymore and double fan no longer kills tanks.
What the fuck are you even talking about?
![1467085815353[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/4Y5EhOR.png "1467085815353[1].png")
>>343617294
He was the 4th least used character, not the "worst char" you drooling retard, learn to read charts. You picture is showing "Usage Rate Lost Relative to Pre-Balance Patch".
And McCree nerf lead to a more stable and diverse meta. Soldier, Pharah, Reaper and Roadhog are more viable now, not just McCree.
>>343617973
This is the most balanced the game will ever be.
>>343617285
>damage reduced by 40%
And who exactly are you killing with that? The squishiest among squishies.
all these heros getting whined about and i'm sitting here getting owned by torbjorn's turret.
>>343618178
Buy a computer, stop playing genji.
>>343617973
His decreased reload delay used in conjunction with his reload animation canceling combat roll let's him do an insane among of damage virtually non stop.
People believed the hype about the nerf but once the word gets out it will be worse than before.
>>343618178
Play Pharah, Widow, Soldier and situationally Junkrat and learn to peek shoot.
Zenyatta is a sniper support hero, so why the fuck does he have an ultimate which makes him a tank for a few seconds?
Like imagine widowmaker having Moltencore as an ultimate instead of what she has now, changing her sniper rifle into a melee hammer.
I really don't think the 150 hp is that big of a deal, it is just his ultimate which makes absolutely no sense. It is just there to ruin his positioning if you ever want to use it.
>>343618252
You're a dumbass. Like really stupid.
Roll reload makes his end fan buff pointless. You can cancel fan at any time with roll.
>>343618413
He should be able to throw his ult out like a health orb and make one teammate invincible while healing others.
>>343618413
>zenyatta ult
>tank
What earth are you living on? Who the fuck focuses fire on Zen when he's ulting? If anything, it makes everybody around him bigger, although more survivable targets.
>>343618720
he blocks projectiles during his ult, but it is more about his positioning. Getting from backline into the very frontline as a 150 hp is just stupid
>>343618581
With the decrease in reload delay for all intents and purposes there is no time where he can NOT shoot you. It's not like characters run out of ammo in OW.
Unless you get the drop on him and he doesn't see you he can kill anyone in the span of a few seconds from short to medium range without the penalty of being out defenseless and having to reload.
Because the time to reload now is practically zero when there was a delay before that left him defenseless because he was out of bullets.
>>343617973
>both widow and hanzo used more on attack than defense
Why do people have a problem with snipers on attack?
>>343618957
Cause shitters insta-pick them and barely make an impact on the game. Genji is the same way. Every fucking game, someone insta-picks one of them.
>>343618957
Those stats are from pro games. It's not really a good assessment of overall usage.
Just hit 25. Do I try competitive mode? I have no friends that threw away money to actually play this game.
>>343619152
>Do I try competitive mode?
> have no friends
No. Do not try competitive mode at level 25 with no friends. You will be used as a rape doll.
>tfw no friends to play Overwatch with
>tfw no friends at all
>>343619152
>tfw I am getting another friend to throw money away to play with me
>after he made me throw money away buying division to play with him
>>343619269
>From the moment fan stops shooting to the moment McCree finishes reloading was about 2 or so seconds. Removing .45 seconds from that does not even come close to equalizing the damage nerf.
It does more than make up for it because now there is no trade off for using it because unlike before, after using it he is no longer totally defenseless and vulnerable to attack.
The decrease in damage is immaterial because he can keep attacking you without penalty.....How is this so hard to understand? Fucking fuck the world has gone retarded crazy balls.
>>343618942
What? He still needs to reload, retard
>>343619531
>.45 seconds off of over 2 seconds somehow equalizes a 40% damage nerf
Stop, you're a moron.
Someone make a webm
Is McCree officially D.Va tier then? It's lonely down here.
jesus fucking christ metafags are insufferable
>>343619531
Maybe, if you're the type who screams and throws your keyboard when you're getting hit.
>everyone everywhere made multiple reasonable changes to mccree
>blizzard "we just look at the data" decides to nerf the fan
>they probably didn't even read the design documents detailing why the fan has such high damage to compliment the short stun time *to make it less inhibiting when stunned* and to give him an edge with his lack of mobility or health
But I can't say anything Until I see their next major buff. If they can stop with the "everyone gets a turn" maybe there will be hope.
>>343619590
>you take cover
>he shoots in your direction and empties the clip
>you peek out because he's empty.
>He shoots you in the face
>>343619754
>who screams and throws your keyboard when you are getting killed
I do that all the time.
>>343618062
This
it's all down hill from here.
Blizzard will nerf everyone into the ground.
>>343619802
It's not a reload speed buff you dumbass, it's only the end of fan. You know, that move that McCree just roll reloads out of regardless?
I think I'm going to stop. You're an oaf.
>>343618638
or just let it heal anyone that touched the circle for the full duration.
>No more dumbasses running away from the circle
I could only dream.
>>343617973
I find it very hard to imagine bastion being on the low end of that list. Damn if every defense team doesn't run two of the shits.
>>343619938
Are you acting intentionally retarded?
That's all Mcree users do is FTH.
Contrary to popular belief in the real world It's still deadly and now there is no delay to keep shooting after using it when there was a significant vulnerability before.
>>343620138
Bastion is the ultimate noob stomper. Those stats are from the most recent tournaments.
Against proper teams that know what they're doing Bastion is really hard to work with.
You need a Reinhardt and Mercy babysitting you.
In real world application Mcree's nerf is a net buff.
Even after the patch his FTH is still wicked deadly because even the tankiest characters are very rarely at 100% full health. Combine the FTH combo that is still real world deadly with a decrease in reload delay and Mcree is even more powerful than before.
>>343620203
>people still use FTH now
>>343620818
What 'real world' have you been talking about this entire time OP? It's time to let your thread die.
>>343620973
>ad hominem
>>343616221
>ducking
Mobilefag please leave. Never come back
